Thats just the germany keyboard.... Asus makes about 10 different keyboards for every model.... mobile review had a UK keyboard which is still different from what we would have in the US... but it's the most simliar.
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Asus developed ACE view with Fuijitsu, both of which are the inventors of the who "glaretype lcds".
Here is the difference though... Asus and Fujitsu license the technology to everyone else. However Asus has developed two things that they don't sell to anyone other than themselves:
1. They use LESS power than a traditional LCD, yet are brighter and have higher contrast... the other screens use more power.
2. They have virtually no reflection or "glare".... We had a special order of 50 or so L5's this summer that first showed off this technology. At the time I had a high end 17" sony wega pro crt montior. I can say that the L5's screen had the same viewing angles, a little more brightness and the same contrast... perfect, pitch black blacks.
Everyone knows that the "glaretype" screens are more expensive. Well the only problem Asus found was the added technology in their screens made them even more expensive to produce and because they wanted to keep that particular technology to themselves... They didn't need a ton of screens... so it was obviously more expensive to have a shorter production run.
Now, I don't know if the W3 screen is exactly like this or not... but if it is, the screen itself should be worth about $600.
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Greets.
Jorlin, at mobile-review it is say'd that the vertical angle is bad, and that the touchpad sensitivity is very bad. They also say that the screen is not on par with the others "brite" technologies...
The problems they report are:
- touchpad with low sensitivity
- keyboard has a large travel distance, and often they press other keys when they release the keys
- bluetooth device sometimes starts without being told so
- bad vertical angle
- Fastening battery not ideal, is a small gap (uhmm, any problem with the battery fastening?)
- Heating of housing, it is heated sufficiently perceptibly. Heating on the center of the keyboard.
- "I would note glare glass, which interfere withs work with the artificial lighting."
Can you please talk about this? DOes your "final production" unit has this kind of problems? One more thing, does the laptop heats up on one spot (on top), or the heat is spread equally on the notebook?
Thanks in advance.
So much waiting, but now i'm starting to realise that eventually this is not a notebook for me.
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My guess is that theyr new "glare-type" display is totally different than the A.C.E. View. If it would be the same, they would use the same branding. And, has is being said, the angles are not that large (like the 170 degree of the a.c.e view).
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I imported one of the first Asus notebooks into the US about 5 years ago... I've owned every M, L, and S series notebook since 2000 (plus have played around and built all of the rest of them... All in all, I've had to have probably 25-30 different Asus models in my hands in the past 5 years. I've built, torn down, rebuilt, built from scratch just about all of those notebooks. So, I know my fair share. I know enough that when one person wants to BS me about an option, inside or out.... I can pretty much call their bluff. It's what I do.
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Thats what I was thinking too..... I know that there were only 50 of the screens I had that even came into the western hemisphere... and certainly under 500 worldwide... That is a very very small production run.. It was expensive and I couldn't imagine the W3, with specs like the W1, having that screen and being under 3 grand. Just the cost of the screen itself would pull it out of most peoples price range and therefore hurt sales.... So, I don't know what their doing now, but the W3 demo I had here for a while didn't have the glaretype screen, although I'm confidient thats what they are going to use on the production models.
Also, I checked my voicemail this morning and I have news for US customers on the W3.......
This is direct from the head of all things mobile at Asus USA.. he is the one who physically places the orders for the notebooks...
Anyway.. He said the W3 they are importing will have dedicated video and be the sonoma chipset... That basically means it has to be the W3v. However, they couldn't confirm if they were going to use the x600 or x700.. Also, specs will be similiar to the W1... probably 768/1gb of ram, 80/5400rpm drive and the new P-M 740 (1.73ghz)... An 8x dvd dual layer burner is also what they plan on ordering.
All of this is still up in the air. Asus USA has NOT even ordered these from Taiwan yet. Taiwan has been on vacation for the last two weeks for Chinese New Year and will return on Tuesday I believe I heard. So, until they order them, spec and price and eta will remain up in the air. I believe they should be able to order them sometime this week though. Usually, It'll take a week to produce the notebooks they order, and two weeks to ship them, then about a week before we could actually ship them to customers. That means that this time next month we should have them in our hands and ready to go out.
... More news to come.
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Asus W3V.
http://asia.cnet.com/i/r/2005/nb/39084008/sc003.jpg
It seems it is totally in metal, and has that dotted texture on the keyboard àrea.
This one is cleary a SONOMA, with the fourth usb port in the right side.
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Thats most likely the case. There are only certain markets they can absorb new notebooks with the older technology. Considering the cost isn't much less... you have to think that they can't afford to sell notebooks that might be a little more expensive... who knows.
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anyone have news on when the W3 will be available in Asia?
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http://www.neonote.co.kr/home/detail.asp?G_Cod=75290
some internet shopping-mall or off markets are selling this model in south korea (w3n)
about us$1900
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256 MB DDR2700
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dvd/cd rw combo
2 years world warrenty
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I bought a W3 in London last night (from Micro Anvika). I was looking at a few machines and I'd mostly ruled this one out due to it being slightly older technology (not Sonoma and with an "old" 9700 mobility graphics card). But in the end I fell in love with it when I saw it.
It's very similar in spec to the Sony S2XP but a lot better value for money (I paid £1200 although I'm sure it will be cheaper once a few more places get it in stock). I've not used it much yet but a very quick few comments on what I like about it and any shortcomings:
The screen is superb. I'd say it's almost as good as the Sony X-Black but probably the Sony is just ahead. But this is close enough for it to not really be noticable unless you put the screens next to each other. It is nice and vibrant and has good contrast. My one concern about it was the amount of reflection in the shop: so much so that I almost went for another machine without the glossy screen. However, in use outside the shop (only indorrs, not used it outdoors yet) I don't have any problems with reflections.
The keyboard is also excellent. I just prefer my old IBM X23 keyboard but this is almost there. It's certainly a lot better than the average keyboard and much, much better than I was expecting. Importantly for me it has the page up/down/home/end keys on the right of the keyboard (which the SOny S2XP does not have) and also a full size enter key. There is a minute amount of flex if you press really hard but that's just me being fussy coming from an IBM. It's a very good keyboard overall and the amount of travel is spot on.
The hard drive is only 60gb which was a little below my desired 80gb or above. It's also disappointingly only a 4200 spin speed. I'm likely to replace this shortly as I want to dual boot with Linux too. But for most users it is plenty of space and it doesn't seem that slow. I had replaced the 4200 speed in my old IBM with a 7200 speed and the difference is noticable. Having said that, I think I'd probably just get a 5400 speed as they allow for larger capacity and a little less heat and power usage.
The touchpad I don't like. The buttons are a little too stiff and the pad itself seems to lock up occasionally when trying to use it to click on something. The sensitivity can be adjusted in Windows which has helped but it's still annoying me a little. It seems more like a driver issue as the pad itself does seem very responsive most of the time.
Battery life seems good. I haven't used it enough to drain it yet but I think I'll be looking at about 3 hours with medium usage (mostly browsing but also insalled quite a bit which uses the hard drive and so uses more power than normal).
I haven't yet tried playing games. I will tey a few at some point. I wanted reasonal graphics for occasional play but it's not going to be my main gaming machine.
The extra function buttons on the sides are great. According to the manual you can play CD's without turning the machine on (not tried it).
You get a reasonable quality carry case which has no markings on the outside. So it doesn't look that much like a notbook case (which is good so you don't get any unwanted attention).
Asus also bundle a free mouse. This was unexpectedly a wireless Logitech model which was a real bonus. Unfortunately they don't supply any batteries which I feel is a little cheap on a model of this price.
The machine itself looks fantastic. The lid is metallic with a very understated look which I like a *LOT*. The lid is catchless. Inside the palmrest is plastic (I was considering the V6 which was aluminium at this point). The LED's are all blue including the large power light on the rear side of the machine. I can't reiterate enough that this really does look and feel a very expensive piece of equipment. The build quality is superb. The lid opening is firm and the screen stays in place. It does not feel flimsy at all.
The machine doesn't get very hot (although I haven't used it foranything really streessful such as gaming) and the fan noise is very quiet. Only occasionally does the fan step up in speed. But it doesn't do this for very long and then just goes very quiet again.
The palmrests are absolutely covered with stickers. 5 of them. 2 of them are huge. I really hate companies doing that.
I've not opened it up yet but CPU-Z says the memory is two sticks of 256mb PC2700. I'll want to upgrade it to at least 1gb due to using it for software development. So that means throwing away one stick.
My model has the 1.7ghz processor, 60gb 4200 hdd, 56g WiFi, but no bluetooth (there is a button to activate this so it's obviously optional.
Asus supply a recovery disc rather than a WIndows XP Pro CD. It also comes bundled with quite a bit of software (forget what as I didn't install it), including Nero. The function buttons allow you to turn wifi on/off, adjust performance, turn bluetooth (optional) on/off, lauch a browser (gives me an error and haven't bothered to look into it) and turn the touch pad on/off. All very useful. The other edge function keys play a CD as mentioned earlier.
Summary:
Could do better = fewer stickers, only 60gb 4200 speed hdd, both memory slots taken, touchpad seems to not recognise clicks occasionally.
Very good = superb screen, lovely keyboard, useful function keys, looks and feels understated but expensive.
Overall = The best machine I've used. I no longer look at Powerbooks with envy []
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Summary:
Could do better = fewer stickers, only 60gb 4200 speed hdd, both memory slots taken, touchpad seems to not recognise clicks occasionally.
Very good = superb screen, lovely keyboard, useful function keys, looks and feels understated but expensive.
Overall = The best machine I've used. I no longer look at Powerbooks with envy []
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The specs of my W3N are:
2Ghz Pm, 80GB 5400speed, only one slot taken (512MB upgraded to 1GB already)
So, actually, I own the version you wanted
I have already played some games (Doom3, HL2, SplinterCell:Chaos Theory Demo). The performance is great.
The display is really fantastic. Reflections are not noticeable during normal operation.
The design is great and built quality is very high.
I am using RightMark ClockUtility to dynamically clock the CPU. The CPU runs on 600Mhz and it steps higher when needed (very quick and unnoticeable). In addition RMCU can reduce the CPU CoreVoltage so the fan only runs occasionally
I love it...
BTW: If you want to see a nice flash site, take a look here:
http://event.asus.com/2005/notebooks/20050201/
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Damn you lucky Europeans and your W3s... (I'm just jealous)
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Here is something interesting regarding the W3 series and the 915-Sonoma-Chipset:
http://uk.asus.com/products/notebook/w3series/w3000a/w3000a_overview.htm
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Can someone please confirm whether or not the headphone jack on the W3 is indeed SPDIF compatible?
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Should be.... the M3/M6/W1 all have SPDIF outs.......
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Why does the new Alvsio eqipped chipset still use the ATI 9700 GPU? Is that a typo? Still no sign of W3 in Hong Kong [
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It seems like we are waiting forever for news on this machine. I am getting restless.
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AS of this morning, the still aren't ordered for the US.
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As far as I know: GlareType=colour shine (etc.)
And yes, black is black...
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Greets.
Can anyone with one W3N tell me if the "black is really black" on the display, like on the x-black sony? I ask this because now asus has new kind of naming for theyre screens: crystal shine and color shine.
W5N has both, color and cristal, and V6V only color shine. W3N has glare-type, I guess it is only "crystal-view".
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Just to clear stuff up......
Asus' proprietary ACE view screens are no longer going to be available.. Although the SXGA+ ACE view screen is certainly by far the BEST screen I've ever seen (I stated previously that it was better than my 17" sony wega crt monitor in terms of contrast, brightness, viewing angles and true blacks)... however it's way too expensive to produce in regular ratio... apparently even more in widescreen.
The screens they are using on the W5/W3 are only listed by asus as "glare-type".. they aren't ACE view, but more the level of the Sony X-Brite, Fujitsu Crystalview...... The main difference is the power consumption and plastic in front of the lcd. I'll swear to this day that the cover on my SXGA+ ACE view screen is 1/16" non-glare glass.... mainly because it won't scratch.
Anyway... Although not as good.... there were only 50 of those screens in all of north america... maybe a couple extra's for spare parts... this new screen is still going to be just as good, if not slightly better than what else is out there.
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So... what the "heck" is Crystal Shine? Surelly it is no Glare Type or Color shine, as this are the same. W5 monitor features both, V6V only crystal shine and w3 color shine.
Crystal shine has no glare coating, so it must only change the colours. But if glare-type changes the colors too, why the heck do asus put colorshine and crystalshine on the w5? The colorshine should do both the work, no?!
I'm confused. Marketing names sux!
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If it helps, my W3 screen looks just the same as a Sony XBlack. It is glossy and the colours are very rich. The blacks are black. The disadvantage is there is quite a bit of reflection is used in an office with a lot of overhead flourescent lighting.
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Understandable..... if you haven't already, you should drop me a line about the W3. The list for the pre-order list is getting crowded... Once the specs and price are verified I'm going to go through that list and contact everyone in order of when they emailed me and then I'll announce it in the forums...
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THey'll probably hit the states sooner than Canada... I'm sad because of that.
BUt hey... as long it gets here soon []
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I'm not trying to feed you bs. I feed it as I get it. At this point the only thing I'm not aloud to give you are the specs to the W5/V6 as they are ordered. I can give you the ETAs though. The W3 doesn't have one yet and that is because the W3v wasn't the first model off the board.... However the W5a and V6v were set into motion at the same time the W3a/n were......
Saying it'll never be here is a really pushing it. The W3v is going to be the heart of Asus' new lineup and it's certainly coming. I'll keep you posted.
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I'm really anxious as well. But, if you look at what's out there, there are only a handful of Sonoma based notebooks out there right now. It's pretty clear that none of the manufacturers have reached mass production of Sonoma notebooks. So, the timing of the release of the W3 doesn't seem all that unusual. But, it will be great once we finally know something!
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Well the problem is I've been filling you in along the way. Things change during this period and it's a pain, I know.
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I'm looking for a new machine and the W3N looks real sweet. Only thing is, I need a higher screen rez than 1280x768. Do I have to go for the v6v to get the extra rez?
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Do you realize the w3 has a 14" widescreen? A 14" widescreen has the height of a 13" regular ratio screen, but wider. On a 13" screen, the pixel size of XGA is very high.
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yeah might be a bit tight. but I'm used to 1600 x 1200 and do a lot multimedia development work so i realy need the space. That said my current machine is a brick. I was hoping to find something with screen that can handle wsxga+ (1680 x 1050 would be perfect).
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Well.. you have options here...... for that res you're going to be looking at a 15.4" widescreen.....
Lets say.. The W1, the Z81k if you like amd, the Z71v if you want to wait... if you can go with a regular ratio screen, the V6 will have SXGA+ at 15.1" and will weigh about 5.5 pounds.... Now that is a pound less than the M6 and most people think that is light for a 15"...
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I'd love to see what the Z71 is going to be like but I don't think I can wait any longer, I'm playing dice every time I shut the lid on my old dell - it loses a different bit of hardware every time I start it up [B)]. To hell with widescreen, I'm now officially hunting for a v6! The only thing I'm not sure about is the graphics card but I guess that will be easy to upgrade later on.
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I don't know if we'll have it before you do in the UK, but we ship tot he UK a couple times a week. If you need anything, just drop me a line.
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Yeah, the V6 is certainly the lightest 15" system on the market, even when compared to the Apple 15" ..... the W3 is about a pound less which really puts it in a good spot weight wise as well.
When you had the chance to get the V6v or the W3n - I'd go with the V6 because it's got newer technology. I'm not sure if this zero bright dot warranty is going to be worldwide, but I'd imagine so.... one of the biggest reasons I see this happening is because it's almost impossible to see a bad pixel on a glare-type screen....... I have perfect vision and I saw an ACE view screen that was turned on on like single digit temperatures..... it killed a lot of pixels, apparently, but to the naked eye it looked flawless no matter what color the background was set to. However it turned out there were 20+ dead pixels! The only way we could find that out was with a program we used that physically pointed out the dead pixels (almost like the game minesweeper).
So, I guess if you can't see them, you can't be upset about them and won't get the screen replaced..... So in that case that warranty upgrade is a super idea.
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There's a couple of places advertising the V6 here in the UK. I almost went for it instead of the W3N. It looks a good machine but ultimately I wanted the lightest I could get.
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Just for your information:
I burnt a double layer DVD today on my W3N just flawlessly.
@V6:
On a German forum I read some complaints about the V6.
Although it was announced with a 8h battery life (unrealistic in the first place), with 8xDL DVD writer and HD-Audio.
It only has a 2,5-3h battery life, only a 2xDVD+/- writer and no HD-audio. In addition it has no TV-out.
People are also stating that the fan does not turn off once it turned on. But Asus is trying to fix this with a BIOS update.
Those people are happy with the V6. But honestly the price is much too high regarding the features you get.
(The W3N offers more with a longer battery life for less!)
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Jorlin,
Yes, I know where you are coming from...... but when he asked for lightweight, I'm judging more this way......... the V6 is the lightest 15" system you can buy, by FAR..... the W3 is darn light too, but in comparison not that much lighter than other 13" or 14" widescreen notebooks.
Yes, all the new stuff consumes more power and is a couple bucks more expensive. However down the road that may or may not be more important. Trust me, I have to explain this when people are looking at the current models we sell. It's a toss up. Frankly I wouldn't want to get a W3n or a when the v was coming out.
The V6 should support SATA drives and HD audio. I know SATA notebook drives won't really be out for atleast another month or so and more than that for company like Asus... So everything that is being sold will be PATA for probably 5-6 months atleast.
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Unfortunately the V6 doesn't look like the lightest 15" to me. The Savrow Razor is around 2.2kg and the Samsung X3 is about 2.3kg.
The Razor has a Radeon 9700 Mobility 64mb, SXGA, etc. I believe it's based on an Arima chassis which Philips seem to have also used for their Freeline series.
The V6 currently only has PATA and I keep seeing two different weights quoted 2.3kg and 2.6kg. If it's the former then that's good. If it's the latter then it's still quite good but is beaten by some others.
The V6 is definitely a better machine if you need the extra display size. I suspect most people will go with the more fashionable W3 but the V6 does look a cracking little machine. In the ned it depends whether weight and also size matter. Moving from an IBM X series even the W3 seems a bit bulky to me. -
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The V6 is 2.36kg - 5.2lbs with the standard 4 cell battery.
2.49kg - 5.49lbs with the 8 cell battery.
*It's also 1" thick.
The W3 is 2.0kg - 4.41lbs with the standard 4 cell battery.
2.2kg - 4.85lbs with the 8 cell battery.
*It's also 1.2" thick.
The W5 is 1.6kg - 3.54lbs with the standard 3 cell battery.
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Looks like the W3A (sonoma) will be using the Embedded Intel 915 GM VGA chipset.
Intel Pentium-M 740 1.73 GHz (Sonoma), 512 DDR II SDRAM, HD 60 GB, 14" (WXGA), Embedded Intel® 915 GM VGA, DVD Re-Writer Dual Double Layer,LAN 802.11g, 3x USB 2.0, 1xIEEE 1394, MS Win XP Pro, 8-cell battery
£926.00ex VAT for above spec
http://www.asuslaptop.co.uk/products.php?cat=39
http://uk.asus.com/prog/spec.asp?m=W3000A%20Series&langs=11
Specs page says the same thing(compared to the overview page which states ATI 9700)
New ASUS W3N 14" + 9700 Released
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