Official Waiting for N82JV Thread

First of all, I'd like to direct you to the place where the ATI card in N82 rumor originated from. Someone on the first or second page of this thread decided to read what he could see on a Chinese webpage, which was nothing except DX11; USB3.0; 335M and HD5730 - the last referring to a N61 further up the page.

Second of all, there's been no announcements from Asus about anything to do with an ATi card in the N82, except one person claiming than an Asus employee at cebit told him yes. No I'm not doubting his testimony, I'm doubting the Asus employee's. As anyone who's dealt with an Asus grunt knows, they know nothing. At all. Except about what they're meant to know. And future, unannounced products are not what they're meant to know. He likely just said whatever he though the customer wanted to hear.

As for the 5650 vs 335 debate; let's just assume for a moment that they're equal in power. DX11 > Dx10.1, no?

Now then, what else has been posted since then...

http://shop.lenovo.com/SEUILibrary/...-category-id=77A1B39BDFD34FD9B1DDE441472E2759

Yes they did. Though i never saw it say otherwise, since it's announcement at CES.

Battery debate...well, everything so far has said 8cell until that chinese release. Who knows what's going on?

 

i think i give up on this. i been waiting to long and need a new 14". no release date, no definite specs etc. i just cant wait. add to that the y460 and asus UL and acer timeline updates, well, i think it might be all a little late for me ;- mad:

but maybe, i can find the strength to wait, i want THIS notebook.

 

The minute you decide to buy another notebook, this will be available ... it always happens that way.

 

I don't get why they show upcoming products at these trade shows and then give no release date. If the laptop is at the show, the design is basically done except for maybe some minor design changes. Then, it's just a matter of parts procurement and queuing up manufacturing. Are they having trouble getting chips for these things? Not providing a release date for a product which has a design refresh cycle of about 6 months right now is pretty bad marketing.

 

I'm starting to get frustrated too, I'm in the market for 2 new laptops and was really leaning towards Asus. But unless they ship by the end of the month, I'll start looking at everything else out there.

 

The poop brown color did it for me and the delays don't help.
I was really lookingforward to this laptop.
My only hope is that the JQ model is a different color.

 

My n80 is brown, and honestly I don't mind (though I'm not picky about things like that, I guess). It is a weird color choice to me, but oh well

 

I don't mind the color brown but it reminds me of when I was a kid and used to put paper bag covers on my school books.
For some reason this color scheme does nothing for me , great specs though.
It's gonna be a tuff one.

 

Hmm. I am supposing the N82JQ version with the quad core i7 won't have switchable graphics then? I mean that i7-720QM doesn't have a video controller, right.

 

Right, the quad i7 doesn't have Intel video (a huge plus in my book )

 

From that Asus World thing, it looks like they might put a GMA chip in the laptop to provide the switchable graphics for either case. (effectively making 3 GPUs in the i5 version)

 

having 3 gpus would be unnecessary dont you think? not sure how they will do it on the i7 configuration though

 

Most likely just no switching. The nVidia site describing Optimus only mentioned N82JV as supporting Optimus, so probably the i7 version works the same way as the N61JQ.

 

I suppose that's true with the Asus employee. Personally, for me I don't really care about DX11 right now, especially in a laptop that will be secondary to a more powerful desktop machine. No games I'm interested in playing use it, and even the ones that have I haven't seen anything amazing graphically that would make me sad to not have it, but that's just my personal preference.

 

3 GPU's is not practically possible. Before the advent of the i3/5/7 series, IGPs were built into the chipset. Unless Intel releases a new chipset, there's no way it can happen.

 

I still hope it comes with a 8cell battery...

 

Yeah, I think you're right. I think I read it wrong on that Asus World thread.

 

The nVidia website has just been updated to include a driver for Asus systems with nVidia Optimus technology.

http://www.nvidia.com/object/optimus_win7_x32_notebook_189.42.html

Hopefully this is a sign that the N82 and others will be out shortly.

 

They already had drivers for the N82JV for a long time. Somewhere in this thread I posted a link to that.

 

Sorry. Even though I've been lurking for a while I somehow missed that.

These new drivers are bigger. They clock in at 105 MB for 189.42 versus the 85.1 MB of 189.07.

 

That's ok. Anyway, seems from some sources (ahh.. it escapes me mind which sources) that these should hit the stores at the end of March. To be honest, though, at the beginning of Feb. I also heard that they'd be available at the end of ... Feb. That's odd, I know.

 

I don't know if anyone has mentioned it yet or noticed, but the ASUS Support forums do have N82JQ and N82JV sections even though their main site doesn't list them. The only activity in these sections is some questioning of the type of video available on the N82JV.

There are also listings in the Downloads section of the ASUS website for the N82 models, but attempting to follow through to the downloads results in errors since there are no files in place yet.

 

Yup, got that in one of my previous posts already too

 

getting annoyed waiting on this one ...

started off thinking .. UL80vt ... lack of graphics driver support drove me to;

N61jt ... weigth and lack of battery drove me to this ... N82 .... COME ON man!

I got bonus money to spend foos!

 

I gotta get something before April and I don't think the N82 will make it out by then.

Looking at all the options I next went to the Y460 but the poor battery life (couple hours only?!) and potential overheating problems and lack of canadian availability have put me off. Next up was that 14" acer but that looks like european only. I had considered the Vaio Z but it's too much. So that's left me with the Alienware M11x, which I love everything about except the size of the screen & cpu.

I really want the N82 but they're taking their sweet time with it and may end up losing my $$$

 

I think that about sums up the problem for a lot of the potential buyers of the N82. There just aren't many good options for a reasonably powerful laptop at smaller than a 15.6" or 15.4" size. Hopefully all the attention given to the Alienware M11x will be noticed by other manufacturers.

 

Y460 is supposed to have switchable graphics, right? Should be good for battery life. With the current deal for the high-end Y460 running at $891, I can't see how this Asus N82 could be any better, or cheaper. Any reason not to buy now?

 

thats what im thinking for that price(only good until the 17th) its really difficult to pass up. battery life should be decent when on intel graphics i would assume

 

Edit: Looking at wrong chart

Looks to be about 4 hours. Decent, but still not available in Canada yet so I'd need an "amerifriend" to buy one.

There's also the potential overheat problems (reaches 101c when graphics card in full use)

 

Where have you found this info?

 

ok so we are talking about the y460 then. the heat for the graphics card is after 12 hours of heavy load so it shouldnt be that bad normally right

 

http://translate.google.com/transla...gn-high-performance/&rurl=translate.google.de

battery life: http://www.notebook4game.com/web/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/Y460_Battery_Balance+IntelHD-600x471.PNG

Actually I don't really know how to read battery mon but maybe it's less time than 4 hours...

 

Difficult to tell whether they ran the battery benchmarks on the 5650 or the intel graphics.

EDIT: Looks like intel graphics I guess.

EDIT2: If I'm reading it right, and I'm not sure I am, It looks like it took ~2 hours to drain the y460's battery by ~10% on common usage, and and ~1 hour to drain ~20% under heavy load.

EDIT3: Nevermind, I think I read it wrong. Not sure how to read that exactly.

 

Ok I think i figured it out.

The image i linked had at the top...
"Common use. Mode, Balance, video card Intel, 100% brighter screen, speaker 50% tests with movies and music. "

In the image... Time on battery + Time remaining = 2h41m

The other one has to be on the dedicated card and it shows 1 hour run + 9 mins remaining. If that's true that's pretty horrible battery life...

 

The Y460 being tested for that review is a Core i5-430m with the Radeon HD 5650. That configuration is not currently available from the Lenovo website in the US.

Right now Lenovo is showing a Core i3-330m with only integrated graphics or a Core i5-520m with the Radeon HD 5650 option.

 

The i5 520m has the same TDP as the 430m, if I'm not mistaken.

 

The TDP by itself is not enough to judge a processor's overall energy usage or heat output, although it is a common misconception. The TDP represents a maximum, and processors usually run under that. Faster processors within a family run closer to the maximum than slower ones since they are actually the same devices clocked to different speeds.

CPU power dissipation

 

Still that review said it ran very hot.
Not a good thing.

 

not surprised at all

 

I realize that, but it's the only way power consumption can be compared at this point.

 

If I'm not mistaken, the upcoming Sandy Bridge will have 2 GPU cores in one monolithic package. Pair it up with an Nvidia/ATI card and there's 3 GPUs.

 

Regarding TDP, there's this idiot (and probable troll) who among other things, thinks TDP is what the processor is always using. In reality, Intel's desktop, 3.33GHz, SIX CORE CPU only draws about 6 watts at idle...which really shows how good Intel's gotten at this, but also how far off TDP can be depending on what you're doing with the system.

 

I want to buy a good (cold and good performance with good video card) 14 inch laptop to replace my Asus a8js. And seem to be very difficult to find ! I hope this N82 will be good and not hot like lenovo y460 and not expensive like Sony Z. the sony cw is not available in canada with the gt330m ! Dell xps 13 too hot and not available anymore (and no announce yet for new model) macbook pro 13 no news of the refresh, Apple want to sell Ipad before I think hehe

 

Ha! Another ASUS A8Js user like me!
As much as I love the 14.1" form factor of my current laptop, I'm still not willing to downgrade the screen res to 1366x768. I better choose Full HD version of N63JN

 

Yeah I know, I prefered an high screen too ! But Difficult to have everything and the N63JN is too big (and too heavy) for me, I don't want to go more than 5.3 lbs.

 

The resolution is the one problem I have with most of the newer laptops available. Both my personal and work laptops have 1280x800 resolution, and increase in width doesn't make up for the loss of 32 pixels in vertical resolution. Still, the added weight of most larger laptops keeps me interested in the smaller laptops regardless of the inconvenience.

 

I am losing 282 pixels. 1680x1050 display to 1366x768.

I don't think I'll ever adjust to it

 

i went through the same thing... i never adjusted. this is life!

 

ur losing over 700,000 pixels

 

edit: 714,912 to be exact