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    Official Waiting for N82JV Thread

    Discussion in 'Asus' started by min2209, Feb 3, 2010.

  1. Bronsky

    Bronsky Wait and Hope.

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    Ever try to talk to a car show girl about the cars they're showing? :eek:

    Bronsky :cool:
     
  2. mystery905

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    Does anyone know if the N82 has MXM II? I'm wondering if whatever newer video card it has can be used in older models like the N81.
     
  3. dtwn

    dtwn C'thulhu fhtagn

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    I doubt it. BIOS probably wouldn't recognize the card.
     
  4. Falle4ngel

    Falle4ngel Notebook Geek

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    "My hot body?"

    :D
     
  5. min2209

    min2209 Notebook Deity

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    Has any of the retailers on this board heard any announcements about shipping these?
     
  6. SSJ

    SSJ Notebook Evangelist

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    Asus should release their new products already...sick of waiting.
     
  7. meowface

    meowface Newbie

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    Some relevant info, seems to be dissapointing news for people looking for ATI graphics in here but only the N71 specs are mentioned specifically, hopefully theres still an option for ATI cards

    http://www.fudzilla.com/content/view/17594/1/
     
  8. min2209

    min2209 Notebook Deity

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    IMO that doesn't say much. There's the N61J out that's got HD 5730 in it, but in one of the links I posted also placed a GT 325M or something in a N61. The regional variations are huge, but at least there was a picture of a plaque showing the N82 with a GT 335M rather than GT 325M. Can always hope.
     
  9. pellpel

    pellpel Notebook Geek

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    Any one know if they will come out with 15" or 16" switchable graphics? I be in for it if this was at lease 15"
     
  10. min2209

    min2209 Notebook Deity

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    Nothing like that has been mentioned. I think it has been said that the N61 which is a 16" with HD 5730 does not have switchable graphics.
     
  11. borkey

    borkey Notebook Geek

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    Which was correct until about a few hours ago. An N61's going to be released with switchable graphics (nvidia's Optimus Prime technology). Check Anandtech's article about it for a very slim amount of details.
     
  12. Howitzer225

    Howitzer225 Death Company Dreadnought

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    Lol it's Optimus & not Optimus prime technology. They'd be infringing some copy rights if they'd do that. :p ;) I'm really hoping it will have an ATI variant (MR 5650) to have a successor to the N81Vp.

    Can't wait to have it on pre-order. :D
     
  13. min2209

    min2209 Notebook Deity

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    LOL that just made me laugh hahaha :D
     
  14. borkey

    borkey Notebook Geek

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    There may well be an ATI variant, but not this round of releases. The N82JV was mentioned to be using Optimus Prime technology too, so it has to be Nvidia.

    Seriously, Optimus Prime -> Transformer -> 2 modes -> Switchable Graphics. It all fits!
     
  15. IKilledYourHamster

    IKilledYourHamster Notebook Evangelist

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    SSJ Notebook Evangelist

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    I am not to sure about this Optimus thing from Nvidia.
    I am waiting for detailed tests.

    But anyways, i want a ATI 5000er series videocard.
     
  17. sparkguy

    sparkguy Notebook Guru

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    Wait...doesn't Core i5 and i3 have switchable integrated graphics?
    is Nvidia just putting a sticker on to hype and existing feature??
     
  18. SSJ

    SSJ Notebook Evangelist

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    The Optimus feature of Nvidia is something like a "automatic realtime-switch".
    Don't know how much better this is.
    I have no problem in manually switching the graphics.
     
  19. min2209

    min2209 Notebook Deity

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    I think this may be the thing:

    http://www.anitec.ca/product/657845...20m-1g-ddr3-500g-7200rpm-supe-n61jvqhda1wcbil

    Gosh I hope there'll be something better with switchable graphics. A GT 320M... :(
     
  20. pellpel

    pellpel Notebook Geek

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    That's great, glad I waited, almost pulled the trigger on N61JQ-A1. I'm also looking for battery saving mode which N61 doesn't have, and switchable graphics is always plus. Now I just need core 15"+16" + i5m + ATI + switchable graphics. I wonder if I should wait for the ATI to release to their version...I still want my DX11!
     
  21. fscussel

    fscussel Notebook Evangelist

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    N82Jv is comming out this month with great configuration. But it's weight will dismiss any chance i'm buying it... 2,2kg =/ will be any Asus low weight + GT335 or GT330??
     
  22. shiretzicu

    shiretzicu Newbie

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    asus n82jv will have Nvidia GT335M with the new Optimus Nvidia Technology as seen in this picture :
    http://pic.it.sohu.com/group-199345.shtml#g=199345&p=1687533

    Find more about Nvidia Optimus in here :

    http://www.nvidia.com/object/optimus_technology.html

    If you want a version with switchable graphics from ATi you will probabily go for the lenovo y460 14" or y560 15".

    Find more about it here :

    http://www.slashgear.com/lenovo-ideapad-y460-and-y560-get-core-i3-i5-i7-options-0567530/

    I hope I was helpfull.

    I am also waiting for N82jv and y460.
     
  23. Hamsterkill

    Hamsterkill Notebook Guru

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    I'm still hoping for a N82JA or JQ variant with switchable ATI graphics. I can't stand the way Lenovo places the LCtrl and Fn keys.
     
  24. Rustican

    Rustican Notebook Consultant

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    In some of the Thinkpads there is a BIOS option to switch the LCtrl and Fn keys. Not sure about the Ideapads though.
     
  25. pellpel

    pellpel Notebook Geek

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    Sweet y560 might be the way to go for me :)

    Yes I agree the switching of fnct and ctrl key is super annoying!
     
  26. borkey

    borkey Notebook Geek

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    No no no no no. As much as I do hate marketing gimmicks, ignorance is worse. Core i3/i5 and i7 620M (Arrandale) have an integrated graphic. That is all. It makes switchable graphics a possiblity, nothing else.
     
  27. SSJ

    SSJ Notebook Evangelist

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    2,2 is still bearable, especially for a 14''.. atleast for me.

    I still hope Asus decides to put a backlit keyboard in it....and/or atleast a ATI 5650.
     
  28. min2209

    min2209 Notebook Deity

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    If there is indeed a version with ATI 5650 / 5730 in it I'm buying it regardless of weight, keyboard backlight, or even if there's switchable graphics in it. Here in Canada we get shafted by every company from HP to Lenovo. The HP Envy 15 STARTS at $2300 CAD and the best card you get in the Lenovo Y550p is a GT130M. I have zero hope for a fully loaded Y460p, too.
     
  29. borkey

    borkey Notebook Geek

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    Hah! You think Canada is bad? It's even worse in Australia. An Australian model with the same specs will cost at least 50% more than importing it yourself. That's my advice, really. But it from America and have them ship it to you. Asus' warranty is global anyway.

    In any case, it'd be impossible for it to have any ATI card, even a 54xx series. Well, at least until ATI come up with the Megatron technology. Asus is marketing this as having automatically switching graphics - they'd be silly to offer models without it.
     
  30. Howitzer225

    Howitzer225 Death Company Dreadnought

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    Yeah, you'll have to stick in a discrete card to have switchable graphics. Moreover, there has to be software support for the setup, otherwise you're purely running on an ATI/Nvidia GPU as with the case of some notebooks.

    Me too, though I don't have the time to wait for another variant. All Win7 systems ship with DX11 even though the GPU doesn't support it. It adds some benefits minus the tesselation.

    It doesn't seem to state directly in the specs that it supports switchable graphics, but seeing how Nvidia managed to use the on-die IGP, I'm leaning towards the N82 due to Optimus. If I'm going to buy an ATI notebook, I might as well wait for Fusion.
     
  31. borkey

    borkey Notebook Geek

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    Actually, Lenovo's announcement video on youtube says that the Yx60s will have will have switchable graphics. and I don't think they'd make such a marketing botch up on a video they played in CES. Video link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3akBWO5XdE

    Personally, the only thing I'd stand to gain from Optimus is the lowered screen flicker time. With automaticity, you could open an app that makes the discrete graphics card run without knowing, while you're on batteries.
     
  32. min2209

    min2209 Notebook Deity

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  35. IKilledYourHamster

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    I think the American release date is end of this month.
     
  36. Howitzer225

    Howitzer225 Death Company Dreadnought

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    Sweet! I've had the money waiting for just the right laptop. Now to buy it. :D

    Why would you do that if you're conserving the battery? The only scenario I know of that would unknowingly run the Nvidia GPU is that if you are running an app on Flash 10.1 beta, and it's not exactly taxing. Photoshop and videoediting, obviously, not mentioning games.

    You can download a software from Nvidia that monitors what GPU is in use if you're not sure.
     
  37. min2209

    min2209 Notebook Deity

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    So, do any of the retailers on our forum have any news about the release date?
     
  38. borkey

    borkey Notebook Geek

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    My point exactly. If I'm unplugged and wanting to conserve battery, I do not want Optimus turning on the discrete card under any circumstance. As for why an application would trip Optimus' switch, there could be plenty. An application failing to close properly, running a light game that the IGP should be able to handle but triggers the discrete anyway, etc.

    And if I'm going to have to monitor it myself, I would much rather just switching it myself. That way I can be sure. Having it auto turn off/on depending on battery/AC would be ideal for me, but I'll take what I can get.
     
  39. yutsmail

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    I didn't know about this at all. So the N82 is not going to have an ATI card????? That would be a huge disappointment! I hope atleast there would be one version of it with atleast an ATI 5650. I really don't want to buy N81vp/X83vp now since newer technology is here. Maybe there will be X84 with ATI :)

    Thank you
     
  40. TheoryDependence

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    Agreed completely borkey. I really hope this Optimus technology is relatively bug-free. I'd hate for a fatal flaw to ruin what seems to be an excellent system.

    I'm crossing my fingers that there won't be any deal breakers that come up.
     
  41. SSJ

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    There is a review of the N71....and the display is bad.
    Well, i have no hopes that the N82's display would be any better...
     
  42. Howitzer225

    Howitzer225 Death Company Dreadnought

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    Ah, so you mean that it will try to offload the CPU even with low resource programs? Valid point. I think they have a profile for each program that can be made to prefer a certain GPU, but hey software can mess up. I guess we'll have to wait and see for how Optimus would work in real world conditions.
     
  43. Quicklite

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    Spec looks very nice, packed in a portable frame. Thought the name sounds like a mobile.
     
  44. Howitzer225

    Howitzer225 Death Company Dreadnought

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    I wonder what Nokia is thinking of ASUS' latest and future models of its own N series. :p But yeah, it's the same with a mobile-a Nokia N82.
     
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    Put a xenon in there and I am sold. :)
     
  46. meowface

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    I'm still waiting for more info on a different video card on this, 3Dmark means nothing to me benchmark wise, Intel's older IGP happen to do well against other IGP's on 3Dmark but we all know the real graphics prowess of them.. the 325M could be the same
     
  47. min2209

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    Ya, but once again, it's a 335M in the N82Jv...

    From NVIDIA's drivers site:

     
  48. purell

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    Looking forward to this laptop. Hoping it will run fairly cool.
     
  49. IKilledYourHamster

    IKilledYourHamster Notebook Evangelist

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    me too...
    None of my ASUS laptop screens (UL series) were as bad as the new Sony CW but it wasn't great. It seems to be a trend now among ~$1000 notebooks.
     
  50. min2209

    min2209 Notebook Deity

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    I don't even really care about the display anymore. I just bought a 23" external LCD, so all my gaming / movie watching will be on there anyway. Honestly speaking, I really don't think any laptop monitor can match a real external LCD. The ASUS MS series (like MS238H) is a very nice series of external LCDs... mine weighs something like 5.5lb!
     
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