Official Waiting for N82JV Thread

Bump... for any relative news on the n82

 

Not anything yet. Been checking ASUS' product & support pages for any signs of it but so far no luck. Guess we'll have to wait a little more.

 

The resident Asus retailers lurking here have heard no news about the N82? A bit strange since several of the other new N series (N61, N71) are in preorder or shipping condition. There has been no real news since CES, apart from the nvidia hype for "Optimus switchy thingy"

Would be interesting to know if there are other flawors releasing than the N82jv, as there has been for the other models. I'm thinking a JQ version with ATI 5730 and i7-720QM would be nice

Xoticpc? Gentechpc?

Also it would be nice to know if they are relasing it (and when) in Europe...

 

Considering the fact that the retailers haven't even heard about the N61 and N71 Optimus models, it's not really that strange. Well at least XoticPC and GenTechPC haven't updated their sites with them yet.

Perhaps Asus is waiting for CeBit before they start tooting their horns.

 

They have the U30JC which is Optimus up for pre-order. http://www.xoticpc.com/asus-u30jca1-order-p-2763.html

It's a very nice 13.3" notebook! Only not quite as powerful as the i5 / 335M combo that the 14" N82jv is supposed to have.

The N61JQ is starting to look good for a "neutral gaming" midrange notebook. Sporting i7 / ATI 5730. Just less portable and not available in Scandinavia yet. I can only find the JA model here, which is i5 / ATI 5730.

 

A lot of us here in States are wishing we had access to that model, actually (I'd prefer the more efficient i5 to the extra power of the i7, myself). Only the JQ and JV models are here so far.

By the way, any i7 quad-core isn't going to support switchable graphics, so I would tend to doubt they'd put that in an N82 variant (since it looks as if the graphics switch is part of the design?).

 

Actually there is the i7 620M which DOE support switchable graphics. Can always hope, right.
EDIT: nevermind. the i7 620M is dual core.

 

Yeah, i am not so happy with the new Arrandale series of Intel...and the naming is misleading as you see.
The only good thing is the integrated Intel HD graphics. But other than this, they consume a bit more power...

BTW regarding the display:

http://www.notebookcheck.com/Test-Asus-K52JR-SX059V-Notebook.25500.0.html

If the display is as good the K52JR, i would be really happy!
Because then, i can't put a antireflexion-foil on it.

Still hoping....

 

Wait, what? I agree with the naming be misleading, but are you sure they consume more power? It makes no sense for 2 cores and a die shrink to use more power than 4 cores.

 

Nah, the i7 620M supposedly has 35W TDP compared to the i7 720 QM which has 45W TDP.

 

Hmm...glad I saw this, this could be promising if it really is the Geforce GT 335 or better. Don't know how many ROPS it has, but it's a 72 core part, and for me that's an upgrade, and will certainly run todays games well.

Can you disable this "Optimus" stuff and somehow set it so the Intel video is never touched at all? (Ideally setting it so the system can't even "see" the Intel GPU?)

The ASUS N61JV-X2 has been available for a little while now, but it's GT 325 just looks too low end for me. It's a 48 core part, but it's clocked slow enough that I don't think it would be much different from my current 32 core part.

The G51jx is out for me because of all the BSOD problems, and the G73 is out because of ATi (I watch Blu Ray AND game). This could provide me an alternative to getting an overpriced G72 with a Core 2 quad.

For me, I'll avoid a notebook if the screen is too dense. The main reason I'm not getting a G51jx is the BSOD problem, but also I'd *HATE* the resolution. You can SORT of fix things with DPI settings, but not if you sometimes run it on a different monitor (would have to log out and back in to chance settings every time), and plus not everything displays right.

Where did you find drivers that are supposed to be for these new 3xx series cards? The last official drivers are from December, and only cover up through the 2xx cards

 

http://www.nvidia.com/object/optimus_win7_x64_notebook_asus.html
Look under the Supported Products section.

 

Whoa, THANKS Min2209! How the heck did you find those? And are those actually the full drivers, since it calls it an "update"? Well, either way, nice they have that!

Guess I won't worry about drivers then if this new GT 335 based system comes out. Should be good enough for me, though I'd still like more cores

 

Hmmm... I think I found those while prowling through the net trying to find any info possible about the N82. I don't know if they are full drivers, I haven't downloaded them to see yet.
I still don't know when this thing will be released

 

Any one know the eta. for the 2 years global warranty for ASUS N61JV?

I know N61JV-X2 is available on Amazon, but that's only 1 year global warranty.

 

I think a lot of us are really looking forward to this model. Can anyone think af a better performing 14" in that price range?

And with its cool and hopefully very quiet integrated GPU, the wife can happily surf facetube or whatever she fancies, freed from entangling power adapters and cords for cats and small children to stumple on. I'll be a happy camper.

I have a nice new X-25 SSD waiting to pop in it. The built-in drive will go in my external USB Icy-box case.

 

I don't think so. It's an 5.07lb 14" with an 8 cell battery... that's very impressive.

 

Specs look great,the 335M paired with a i5 should make it a pretty potent combo.
Only thing is I'm not too crazy about the brownish lid.
If it comes in Black it's a done deal

 

Single word answer: Amen.

 

My n80nv is brown...and while that's weird, I'm totally used to it, so it's fine by me

Just nice that the n83 with a Geforce 335 and Core i5 would be a real upgrade, if not the mind blowing one I'd prefer. (I'd guess it's got at least 2x the GPU power though as my 32 core part, but my GPU is clock faster)

 

I wonder if they solved the random power outage issues from the n81vp with this refresh :O http://vip.asus.com/forum/view.aspx...board_id=3&model=N81Vp&SLanguage=en-us&page=4

 

Just skimmed the first few-was that something related to AMD drivers causing the issue? If so, well I'll be getting Nvidia anyway. I HOPE that's it because I dno't want yet ANOTHER notebook I'm looking at to have some huge problem.

I swear, I find something promising looking, and BAM! some weird, major problem keeps me from getting it

 

Just found out about this notebook from a Anandtech article and I need to say - im very interested. As far as I can tell nobody is sure when this beast is coming out - is this still correct? I'm very ready to buy

I just battery life is at least 4 hours.

 

We are uncertain as to what's the problem. Some people have had success reducing the "power failure" reboots by messing with software and drivers related to ATI. Others maintain it's a hardware defect and only a new notebook will solve the problem. Asus is unable to identify the problem when you RMA, so you get it back unfixed. So far, it is dissapointing compared to the service I have received before.

 

If indeed anything relating to ATI/AMD was the cause of problems in the N81, it can't happen with the N82jv, as there are no parts from that company in it.

 

The Sony CW offers the nearly the same for $950 which includes a Blue Ray Drive AND a high resolution option (at least that is the price the now sold out ones at Best Buy were going for). I5 520m, Nvidia 330M, 1600x900 scree, Blue Ray Player, etc for nearly 3 weeks.

I'd be interested in the Asus if the screen was a high resolution, high contrast screen. My CW's contract/viewing angles is not up to snuff although I LOVE the 1600x900 resolution.

 

However, it doesn't have USB3.0 or Optimus switching.

 

Ah right.

If the Asus N82 has a fantastic high res screen, I'm going to ebay my CW without a doubt.

The USB 3.0 I could care less about although Optimus switching is something interesting. Albeit, if the N82 is getting 4 hours WITH the onboard video turned off as people are guessing, that's really not that great since I'm getting 3.5-4ish right now.

 

Just do what I did and put on a black 'leather' skin:

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=450867

 

Looks amazing..... but not really something I feel like I should have to do.
You did a great job on it, how's it holding out with wear and tear?

 

It's still available in blue at BB for $950. The only problem I have with it is the high res screen. It would make my eyes bleed to have menus and text displayed so small on a 14" screen.

It is however a bit strange that the new CW isn't marketed as Optimus enabled. It seems to have the correct hardware for it, i5 / Nvidia 330GT. Why doesn't it work on it, does anyone know? I bet it could be possible to modify the nvidia optimus driver release to install on your vaio. Whether or not that would enable Optimus I don't know.

 

whats the likely US price for the n82?

 

I would imagine the price to be in the same range as the N61JQ which is about 1000 USD

 

The CW was released before Optimus was anounced. There is quite a debate on the Sony section of this forum (I've been reading the Z thread) about possibly unlocking Optimus on the Z. If I recall the CW, it is not designed with graphic switching at all, unlike the new Z. Anyway, I would check out the CW thread and see what the Sony fanatics are saying.

Bronsky

 

More significantly to me-it doesn't have driver support. Inexplicably Sony doesn't allow it.

 

Maybe the cards aren't hooked up correctly?

 

Sorry, what do you mean?

 

Thanks. It's holding up pretty well. I am not rough with my notebook, though. It goes in and out of a Targus 'messenger' bag.

 

I think.. this is just random guessing, but maybe this is something that needs some sort of hardware implementation? I know that the frame buffer of the dedicated card needs to be copied over into the integrated card and then it'll be displayed, but perhaps there needs to be special circuitry for that that didn't exist by default? My guess is that perhaps the integrated cards in the Sony laptops aren't even connected to the display.

 

I recall reading that the circuitry is different:

Hybrid
other hardware - GPU - output - monitor
\---------------- iGPU - output - monitor

Optimus
other hardware - GPU - iGPU - output - monitor

Hence before optimus, you choose which card is active via the output to the monitor. In optimus, the dedicated GPU feeds images to the integrated GPU and they are displayed to the monitor. When the dGPU is inactive, the iGPU runs normally.

 

Yes, so, now, if the GPU - iGPU link isn't built into the Sony's then just installing drivers isn't going to fix that, imo.

 

Oh, yeah I meant Sony doesn't allow Nvidia to support their systems at all. None of them

Completely takes them out of consideration for me.

 

Yeah it was out of stock all week. It just came back in this morning.

From what I gather from the CW and the Envy I5's...there are two different motherboards and you have to have the one that works with the switchable graphics.

I'll have to see the final battery numbers on this N82 before I'd comment on the Optimus' battery life. The X83 and N81 had pretty crappy battery life compared to most other 14.1" laptop so if the Optimus barely brings it back to par...it's really not a selling point imo.

 

What does Optimus have to do with X83 and N81? Optimus is NVIDIA whereas X83 and N81 are ATI, and X83 + N81 don't have integrated cards at all . . .

 

My point is that even with the utilization of the Optimus, if it barely brings hte N82 up to par with current genreation 14.1" laptops in terms of battery life, it's not that great.

I only brought up the X83/N81 because they are the predecessors to the N82 and relative to their peers, they had sub-par battery life.

We won't know until N82's actually come out and actually see how it does with/without the Optimus.

 

3-4hrs with IGP seems too low to me, seeing that the N61JQ can get that much with a better video card and quad cores. N82 will have an 8 cell battery too.

In other words, Sony just doesn't feel like doing it.

 

Dude, Sony better get that done because I'll be pissed if it's doable and they won't implement it.

Wow 8 cell? I think it can do close to 5 hours. Damn, please, please have a high res option. My Sony CW has a 9 cell extended battery that they're charging $250 bucks for. $250!!!

 

Oh of course Sony CAN do it. But they AREN'T doing it. And they DON'T care if you are pissed go ASUS then.

 

I wasn't aware they had peers in the 14.1" and HD 4650 section.

 

kevhuynh,

Why the high res screen?

Browsing the web I rarely come across webpages wider than my 1280px current setup.

As for media files; I doubt it would be possible to tell much difference in a 14" format, between a 720p and a 1080p movie.

Games will only look marginally better with a higher resolution, but would run significantly slower on this GPU.

If I was playing a game at 1366*768 and it ran at a high framerate with power to spare, I'd rather yank the ingame texture or effects settings up a notch, or switch on AA/AF.

Judging from this Alienware M11x review, which has the same GPU, but a slower processor, 1366*768 looks like the sweet spot in the FPS department.

How do games run on your vaio in 1600*900? You can't run modern FPS games well in that res without lowering detail levels, can you?