Official Waiting for the ASUS K-Series Thread

And Tigris is for when?

 

Autumn 2009 it was said in the news, but thats not that long in the future... (but at least too long for me to wait...)

Edit: or even earlier? http://www.notebookcheck.com/Newseintrag.54+M5d2482dae51.0.html

 

Well showing them off and releasing them aren't the same. The K series has been for show at the previous ceBit and only showed its face on the market recently, a few months after >.>

It'd be a nice surprised if the K51 integrated the new Tigris platform though

 

good positivity Melody *high fives*

Its either the k51 or the sager m865tu for me now... hopefully the sager and asus both come out before September so i can expand my options.

 

Too long for me

Lucky you! No sager in Canada . For me it's the MSI GT627, 1200$ CND at NeweggCa

 

Just browsed through this thread after noticing it, so pardon if it has been mentioned already that the delay on the K51 may be due to the 40-nm production troubles that have been reported for the last couple of weeks.

http://www.fudzilla.com/content/view/13855/1/

There were actually rumors that the RV740 GPU was going to be discontinued for a bit:

http://www.fudzilla.com/content/view/13944/1/


Would have a lot to do with the Mobility 4860 not showing up yet.

 

@bestbacon: *high fives* Yay for positive people! lol Patience is key >.> I'm not in an immediate hurry anyways lol I'd rather wait for a good polished product if that's what they're doing ^_^ Only thing is I'd like a bit of news hehe

@prepseb: There's Sager in Canada >.> My friend got a Clevo/Sager from Canada lol

You just have to do some extra legwork to get them to pricematch because sometimes they overcharge(even after currency swaps)

@Phinagle: Well that'd explain a bit. Part of the hype is because the K51 operates on 40nm chips so if they need to refine the technology, it's better that way lo l

 

O that's interesting phinagle, i hope that gives the excuse for the addition of tigris with the k51.

Preseb i dun see why you couldn't get a Sager/Clevo laptop from xoiticpc, gentechpc, or pctorque. Sure if it breaks down it means you'll have to send it over to the U.S. but i wouldn't trust Canadian retailers such as Eurocom because of the reputation they have for bad customer service. I guess its also a benefit for us to buy in the U.S. since our currency is expected to be 1-1 with the U.S. dollar in about 3 months time.. which is august.

Melody is the reason why you not rushing for a laptop b/c you're hitting up university next year? I think the Sager m865tu will be a polished product albeit a little more expensive if on event somehow the Asus k51ab still wasn't released by then. <- but of course that won't happen right? >=D

 

I've never really had to deal with customer service so I'm not that concerned about how good/bad customer representatives are. If anything, on some cases it's an on/off chance situation(i.e. you can either get a good experience or a bad one). I'm more concerned about a product >.>

I've had a friend buy a Clevo from a Canadian reseller(it's not Eurocom but I forgot the name) and he's had no issues and he's very happy with his product, but if you'd rather, I'd say either GenTech or XoticPC would be good places for Clevos.

And yes, I'm in no hurry because I don't need one now. Heck, if time demands it, I might not even need one for the first few weeks/months of Uni so I can wait maybe until the holidays for polished up stuff and Windows 7. I'll have to check with my Academic Adviser on that though.

That means I'm giving the K51 a few months to be released lol

Really seems it suits most of my needs fine without being a brick to carry around. Only thing I need to know now is battery life.

 

You don't care much for warranties Melody? I'm personally very careless with my items so i need things like a warranty.

Really? do you mind asking your friend where he got the Sager? I'd like to find a better place than Eurocom.

Lol, the stated 5 hour battery life is drool worthy so don't worry ;D

 

Still hoping it comes out sooner than later, but losing a little faith.

 

Well I'm pretty careful on most of my stuff(if it's a laptop it frigging cost me 1000$+ so I'd better be careful lol ) so warranty is mostly useful to me in case of manufacturer defects rather than anything else.

I'll ask him no problem ^_^ Which model do you need though? I know that Sager resellers in Canada don't have all models(hence why people shop at Xotic and stuff).

If they advertise 5 that means probabl3.5-4 in real lie which is still very good, but we'll see lol

 

The Canadian dollar is going up again now too =D. It was 0.82 2 weeks ago and now it's at 0.92. That's $100 on a $1000 laptop

 

Because of the shipping and brokerage fees: 130$
Duty Taxes (GST+PST)= 13% in Québec
And Conversion

Sager NP8662 $1472.00 USD
UPS No Brokerage: 129 USD
Total: 1601$ USD
Convert: 1,738.60 CND
Duty: 226$ CND
Total: 1964,618 CND

 

Preferably i would like the 8662 because its the portable monster :O thanks Melody

Yup yup yup, cheers to the 1-1$ ratio soon! WOOT!

Which is why its going to be great when the Canadian currency goes up in a couple of months. Don't use UPS prepseb, use USPS priority/express. it'll still be cheaper than UPS because there's no brokerage fee.

 

There is no option for USPS on Xotic

 

really? Did you ask Justin himself? I find it hard to believe that XoticPC a place known for their customer service would revoke the customers want to use USPS in order to avoid some brokerage fees. There is no reason why they wouldn't offer USPS.

 

No, and I need to pay 2 taxes if its from USA. If Im buying it from another province, like Ontario, I only pay one taxe.
From USA or Québec = GST + PST ~13%
From Another Province = PST ~5%

from what I've learned

 

naw Ontario is 13% as well, i posted on XoticPC forums and found out that Ontario is also charged GST & PST. Really most provinces pay the full 13%. Other provinces pay HST which is still 13%.

It doesn't matter though, once we hit 1-1 dollar ratio again. Paying the shipping fee won't really matter that much because of the build quality and value/performance of the Sager/Clevo products.

Back to the k series though, why would Ati stop manufacturing 40nm chips for a while. Another forum member posted that the production of the 4860's were delaying the k51. But aren't products like the 4770 already out? They work on a 40nm process so i'm really lost as to whats going on.

 

The 4770 is out just the yeilds they are getting sucks (like burning most of the cookies on a tray). Newegg has one model in stock, none at Canada Computers, and 9 at Ncix

 

I'm dying in anticipation for the K51AB....

Here's hoping its released in the USA and price reasonably.

 

From what a couple of ASUS resellers tell me, the K51AB will not be realesed in the US.
If that is true it would really suck!

 

No Canadian reseller has confirmed that for me and I've called 3 so far >.>

 

Hi Forever Melody.... So your saying they will release it in Canada at least?

Do Canadian stores ship to the USA?

 

... anything....

 

Actually I have no clue, but they're not saying it won't be released like the US resellers apparently are. I've contacted micro, PCcyber and PCVonline and they all said that they simply don't have any info on the model.

At this point, it could be a yay or nay. Asus still hasn't put the K51 on their Canadian site so for now it's still not an option here.

 

Actually, there was only one source of information from the US, and it was based off some Gentechpc guy that sounded like he knew what he was talking about. Rumors spread like a wildfire in this thread, and ever since then people have taken it as a fact that it wouldn't be released in the US. The same thing goes for the rumor of Intel stopping this from being released, it's based off nothing.

 

well i guess asus's action to not put the k51ab on their site is because either it's not ready yet with the delayed production of the 4860's or because it's not coming. I could see how people would start to look elsewhere for a laptop seeing as how they have really kept silent about the k51ab not providing us with news of any sort.

 

Well we have no clue. The Intel thing *is* speculation really as well as the "not being released".

At this point, we have NO clue We haven't heard light of the remaining K series models since well...since we first heard of them lol

 

u gotta love Asus's torture methods. haha

Albeit at least they're providing us with a different 15.4 with similar gaming power (g51). Its definitely going to be a little more flashy and expensive than the k series but im sure most of the people who want the k series are the gamers themselves. Hence i'm going to cut them some slack.

 

Unfortunately the G series are pretty gargantuan as well as being power hogs, made even worse by the G51's 260m. Certainly not a bad laptop but the smaller, lighter, more power friendly K51 is what I want.

 

I'm not giving up on the K51AB just yet. Asus could be holding off for any number of reasons and they won't be rushed.
ATi certainly won't be giving up on their HD 4860 and they're enjoying great success in the mobile market these days with mobile chips from their 4xxx range. Once TSMC (or whoever else ATi and/or nVidia switch to) iron out the wrinkles in their 40nm process, we'll start to see these chips - especially perhaps the HD 4830 - appear.
I'd guess that Asus are pretty frustrated by the 40nm fiasco, but they won't be the only ones.

 

Well new tech isn't always perfect so the 40nm chips might be in the stage of refining before being released. I'd also prefer the K51 to the G51 since the G51 is most likely a bigger power hog(and it's just plain bigger too O_O).

Another theory is that Asus is waiting on Tigris. I remember a number of people complaining about the older Puma CPUs so maybe they listened.

 

thats true... the battery life i guess is really appealing. Performance AND Battery life, they just don't go together very often if at all. Let the light be shed on thy k51ab!

We still hope!

 

It might even have something to do with ASUS gearing up to release the G51 soon.
They probably don't want them to compete with each other for sales in the same segment.

 

thats true, since the 4860 would smack the gtx 260m in the face.

 

Most likely and also give ATI/AMD fans a chance to have there time to shine

 

Well the HD4860 was supposed to be a 128bit bus GPU with GDDR5 memory which in turn was supposed to make up for the bus size. I'm not sure it'd "smack the GTX260M" in the face, but it'd provide competitive performance(rumors said along the lines of an HD4850) for far less juice(and longer battery life) so that alone could make it more appealing to some users.

 

which is why it'll be the biggest slap in the face.
People are always saying how 128 bit bus cards are crap. But yet if the 4860 releases and is supposedly on par/slighty better than a 4850, it'll be like a back hand to nvidia because they offered the same performance while only carrying a TDP of 25w (assumption). That would certainly go to show the difference in technology between the gtx 260m and the 4860.

 

Well like I said, it's the GDDR5 which is at work. The different memory interface can make up for the size of the bus. Same story happened with the desktop HD4770s. They were 128bit bus but had GDDR5 and this allowed them to perform nearly on par with 256bit bus GPUs(with GDDR3) such as the HD4850.

Still to say, 128bit GPUs are still behind 256bit ones in terms of overall performance. A higher bus width is always better if you can also maintain everything else.

Performance is interesting, but it's mostly the die shrink and ability to run cooler and pull less juice which interests me.

 

I agree with that

 

My local retailer, Central Computer in SF, a big Asus dealer, says that it will be out in July. This is after checking with their Asus rep for me. Fingers are crossed! I so want this more than a G51.

 

I assume by SF you mean San Francisco, CA?
Probably sounds like a dumb question but this is a very international forum.

 

That's great news!

 

Yes, San Francisco, California.

 

if you go back sometime soon you wanna get a better estimated us release date for the u80 for me plz

 

July is going to be a nice month for Asus it seems lol

Well looking forward to this ^^

 

Yes it will if it does come out.
Still a little skeptical about the US release since there is absolutely no new info. on it.
shempmalone any way you might be able to get some specs for it?

 

July... we'll find out

 

When in july?