Unofficial North American ASUS release dates of upcoming models

I don't know, but the DDR3 is very pricey at the moment...

 

Did you mean GDDR3? They use GDDR3 in the Graphics card, I don't know if they have used DDR3 in them yet though...

 

for desktops they do, its very expensive tho and not showing hardly any benifit over DDR2 in performance.

 

I don't doubt it =P I hate DDR3's architecture...ick! It sounded like a good idea when I first heard about it, but now I really despise the hit to the CAS latency (which I never gave a second thought to until people actually started using it and it becomes an issue that makes DDR3 no better than DDR2 in speed terms).
For a more detailed explanation of the two, and the differences in the chipsets that support them: read here and for a simple introduction (if you are new to memory timings) here is a good guide by tom's and after that another tom's article that will explain how the hit to the latency hurts the DDR3 format in a way that their higher clocks can't compensate for.

 

DDR3 will be better than DDR2 after it has time to mature. Its just like DDR2 when it first came out was absolutly horrible, but now its latencies are pretty much on par with DDR.

I run 3-3-3-8 DDR500, when you can have 5-5-5-15 for DDR2 800 stuff thats pretty linear if not even better.

Even if it did have a performance boost right now worth mentioning, the price difference is making it not worth it.

Again something time will remedy, its not somthing you have to keep tabs on, it will happen on its own and everybody will known when to buy DDR3.

I think the first wave of buying will probably take place in large quantities around when the 45nm cpus come out and DDR3 compatible motherboards are a standard.

 

I actually think that GDDR3 will be the next wave of system RAM. Its latencies are worse than DDR2, but not as bad as DDR3, and the best part is it can be clocked ridiculously high to compensate. I do think DDR3 is a linear step up from DDR2, but GDDR3 is exponentially better (IMHO)

For a good reference on this subject, I recommend this article.

 

GDDR3 will be for graphics cards, DDR3 will be for system ram.

 

I know what it means it is for, but I personally think that GDDR3 will make the transition into the system RAM arena, as it has many advantages over DDR3. (Also would be a little bit cheaper)

 

DDR3 has its own advantages its quite technologcly advanced compared to DDR2, it just needs to mature with its latencies and price.

 

While I agree with that statement, I think DDR3 is a step forward from DDR2, while GDDR3 is a leap ahead. Some companies have already considered making system RAM sticks based on GDDR3. I like to believe it is only a matter of time before someone actually does and sees how good it really is. (Of course this would only be after giving DDR3 a chance to hit its stride, since they have all already put so much money into developing the format already).

 

ATI will have GDDR4s, especially on the HD 2600XT

 

Taken from the Dell 1520 product info page
Graphic Card
NVIDIA® GeForce™ Go 8600M GT with 256MB DDR3 dedicated graphic memory

Taken from the configuration page
Graphic Card
NVIDIA® GeForce™ Go 8600M GT with 256MB DDR2 dedicated graphic memory

 

GDDR3 is not a standard which will make it hard to use for system ram. It is not a problem since the GDDR3 is build into the GPU but for system ram it would run into problems with some motherboards supporting one brand but not another and so on. I dont think there are any plans to make a GDDR3 standard.

 

What makes GDDR3 brand specific?

Anywho, Desktop cards will have GDDR4, but mobility ones will have GDDR3 at best.

Also, I suppose this doesn't answer your argument wave, but GDDR3 is the main system memory on the Xbox 360

EDIT: Sorry, the PS3 uses XDR DRAM, not GDDR3.

 

When a graphic card is made the manufacture picks the ram they would need. A 8600M GT from Asus might have different GDDR3 then a 8600M GT made by Aopen or another brand. The differences might be very small. Something like a slightly different voltage, different frequency or latency. Just look at reviews of desktop cards. Often they all use GDDR3 but all have slightly different memory settings and the next generation again uses slightly different settings.

DDR2 and DDR3 have different speeds but basically it is just DDR2 @ 533mhz 667mhz or 800mhz (many more) but each one is a different standard. For GDDR3 there are hundreds of different speeds and settings. The GPU memory makers keep tweaking the design trying to make it faster and each went a slightly different way.

 

Well, consider just for a second that they were making GDDR3 system memory, don't you think they would standardise the voltages and such? GDDR3 CAN be released with hundreds of different frequencies and latencies, but so can DDR2 and 3, why would GDDR3 be different?

EDIT: Graphics companies did the same tweaking and everything to DDR2 while it was in graphics cards, didn't mean it wasn't viable as system memory.

 

Yes it could be standardised. My point was that it has not been standardised and so far there are no plans to standardise it. So in its current form it would not be useable. If standardised then no problem, atleast if everybody can agree on one standard.

 

i need me a v1s!

 

Any news on a refreshed R1F or any other asus tabletpc?

Cheers

 

Any ideas on the anticipated battery life on the v1s? I nearly purchased the g1s, however its absurd design and mediocre battery life stopped me.

 

lol dogue XD

 

updated Ninja Text

 

I think you should include the v2s with its brother and sisters aka v1s vx2s...I'm pretty sure there coming out about the same time. By the way any specs or pricing for the v2s yet? Sry too lazy to search the forum for answers lol

 

is this the release dates for US or Taiwan

i mean does that mean that i can buy a F8 at the End of July-Mid August

thanks

 

These are US release dates, and the V1S/V2S/VX2 are on the list, they are to be released at the end of July (but expect that to be moved back probably to mid-august)

 

Changed the title to reflect the thread.

 

Sorry guys still confused... so both the C91S and the C91L will lose the exuast fans?, even though the C91S keeps conroe (up to a certain model)
and no overclocking.

Also any word on what gpu options the C91S will have?..8600 GT / 8700 ..

 

C91S will have conroes E6700 and below and the 8600M GT, no overclocking, no upgrading.

 

Any news on C90S in the UK/Europe or am I going to start edging towards the Rock 770?

 

V2S Specs on a Chinese retail site:

http://product.pcpop.com/000052951/Detail.html

 

updated again

 

I swear its like I never hear any new news about the f8 - I would so much rather get that, but time constraints don't allow for it

 

News on F8 http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=128202&page=21

 

Absurd design would be putting it very harshly. And mediocre battery life seems more acceptable/average when you take a look at the C90. If you really want the battery life get a Sager NP2090. I personally find the Asus very acceptable as far as its looks.

 

Is there any confirmation yet on whether or not the C80 will use a bearlake chipset?

 

There is yet to be any solid info on the C80 other than we think that it will be a laptop.

 

C91L:

15.4''
- Plataform Santa Rosa
- CPU Merom (T7xxx)
- Gráfica Intel GMA X3100
- No exhaust fan
- release: november - december 2007

C91S

- 15.4''
- CPU - desktop
- A CPUs up to E6700, where C90S stands for extreme versions (X6800, X6850)
- No overclock
- Gráfica: ??? (maybe same as c90s)
- No exhaust fan
- release november - december 2007

C80S

- 17''
- CPU - desktop
- support DDR3 memories
- Gráfica: ???
- release date end 2007 / beginning 2008

is these all info we have collected so far??

 

Yea, and none of it is verified (except for C91 stuff)

 

nexus13.com are one of many online ASUS dealers for the UK. I e-mailed them asking if they had any idea about when they'd be stocking the V2S and got this reply:

I dunno how accurate their information is, though. It's for the UK too.

 

Any new info?

 

Asus North America has officially announced some of the models.
http://usa.asus.com/news_show.aspx?id=7936
Also, I believe some of the manuals are now available for download.

 

Seems like the V2s is coming in mid-August, according to excaliberpc.com

 

updated, thanks FREN

 

So does anyone have any information on an updated R1F (or asus tabletpc in general)?

 

Although I wouldnt' want one for gaming, for general purpose business/presentations that may be a real loss leader/strong performer for battery life/for getting a cheapo lappy (although there are probably other good alternatives). I'd be really curious to see once it comes out.

 

Does anyone know when or if the Asus F8 came or comes out?
Thanks

 

In Europe, but doesn't seems to be in NA yet.

 

From excaliberpc regarding the F8SV estimated release date:

So, perhaps early to mid-october is the release date on the F8sv.

//yay

 

No that is not correct. f8sv is not due within 2 weeks.your information is flawed.

 

So do you have a more likely date by chance?