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    V1J is a Go

    Discussion in 'Asus' started by ltcommander_data, Aug 4, 2006.

  1. lazybum131

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    I actually think most larger LCD screens (15" and up) use two backlights to light the screen already, if that's what you mean by dual lamps. But correct me if I'm wrong since I'm not that sure!

    The V1J definitely has several business class features that other companies charge a premium for. Modular bay, docking station, better build quality, fingerprint reader, spillproof keyboard.
     
  2. easyeye

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    MBP will be cheaper than V1J with student discount, plus OS X or the newer Leopard is a nice attraction for MBP :D
     
  3. WuHT

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    but will they severly underclock their gpu ? :p
     
  4. jterp7

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    only go with the mbp if you either a heavy mac user..used to their software..OS whatever..IF however you wish to play games..at all..go with the V1J..though they're the same graphics card..heat limits the abilities of the x1600 in the MBP..they might as well have used a x1400..yes its good looking but..subjectively speaking i believe the V1J is much better looking has a higher res..has modular bay..has docking station..and other business class features that are pretty much useful for anyone..if its priced anywhere close to 2k it will sell out faster than the w3j
     
  5. easyeye

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    grow up and stop playing games...jk :p
     
  6. Empulse

    Empulse Notebook Evangelist

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    Might be the case in the US, but in NL certainly not. The Macbook Pro does cost an awful lot of money.
     
  7. superman23

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    The discount is very substantial if you're a student developer. It's $500 off the $2500 MBP model.
     
  8. Empulse

    Empulse Notebook Evangelist

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    Quite interesting though that the cheapest V1J I've been able to find in NL is €1560,- while the cheapest V6J is €1800,- But then again the EU pricing system is entirely different from that of the US.
     
  9. MilestonePC.com

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    That's correct Empluse, once the V1J is released you'll see the price point to be somewhere close to what Justin said.

    the MBP vs V1J will definately be a tough one. If the MBP has heat problems like before, and the V1J can stay at a healthy warm tempurature like the W3J then the V1J would be a better buy. (putting all other featurse aside)

    If the MBP and V1J are roughly equal in performance and warmth, then you will have to look at the Mac OS and the features both laptops give.

    One thing the MBP will definately have over the V1J is the smaller, lighter, thinner chasis compared to the V1J. But the features in the V1J will be the siding factor, modular bay and fingerprint reader.

    Either way both laptops will be great.
     
  10. Jaap-Jan

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    Hello, I am new to this forum. I read with interest on the Compal HEL80, but now that I've seen the Asus V1J, I can't wait to have it :).

    I've taken a look in the Tweakers.net Pricewatch and the cheapest Asus V1J I could find in the Netherlands was €1530,- at Zercom. However, I don't think I would buy a laptop there, because I've read that the service is horrible.

    The second one is 4Launch, priced at €1544,- I don't know anything about that company, but the ShopSurvey looks good.

    The only downside to this laptop (IMHO) is that it has a Trusted Platform Module. As this is new to me, I don't know what the consequences of having this chip in a notebook will be.
     
  11. Empulse

    Empulse Notebook Evangelist

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    Welcome Jaap Jan to the forum.

    I know those sites, however, I doubt it whether it's helpful for the majority of the members as they are all from the US/Canada/UK ;)
     
  12. Jaap-Jan

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    Yeah, of course I am aware of that. :) But you said that the cheapest V1J you could find costs 1560 in the Netherlands and I wanted to point out that it can be even cheaper than that :).

    So, just as your reply is, it's just a price indication.
     
  13. aphex_22

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  14. Empulse

    Empulse Notebook Evangelist

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    How come one ordinary blogger is able to review it while other major magazines haven't had such an opportunity yet?

    Apart from the keyboard issu - he doesn't even write what exactly is wrong with it - he only judged the V1J on aspects we already knew and could also write in a review without having actually seen the notebook.

    I mean... how reliable is this review.. I have my doubts.
     
  15. Nocturne_sa

    Nocturne_sa Notebook Geek

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    guyz any new info regarding availability etc??
     
  16. Empulse

    Empulse Notebook Evangelist

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    I contacted several webshops and they'll have it in stock next Monday :).
     
  17. Deus

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    If I had known this was coming I would have skipped the W3J. This lappy is perfect!
     
  18. Nocturne_sa

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  19. Empulse

    Empulse Notebook Evangelist

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    They are expensive though, almost €300,- more expensive than in NL. Might be worth it for people from Britain to buy from other Euro countries as there's no tax/import duty boundaries.
     
  20. ray50000

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    Wow, 1''-1.1'' thick and 5.75 lbs...very impressive for a 15.4'' widescreen laptop, especially with dedicated graphics.
     
  21. jterp7

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    lol the v6va is more expensive..but the v6j MORE expensive than the V1J and the v6va?? wish the prices were like that over here
     
  22. Empulse

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    I just spoke to someone whom has just bought it! Let me know what you want to know and I'll ask him.
     
  23. Ib14132302

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    there is no such thing as an x1700. ATI is refreshing their desktop graphic card lineup this month with an 80nm die shrink but I have not seen anything about new notebook cards. I like the transflective LCD though :)
     
  25. Nocturne_sa

    Nocturne_sa Notebook Geek

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    sweet...t2400 or T2500? how about a mini review + pics? :p
     
  26. ltcommander_data

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    I guess specs and price are the obvious things. Also if it's a Core Duo I would be interested in knowing whether it has the newer D0 stepping. Actual weight, battery life, sound volume, heat, and stock clocks for the X1600 would also be nice. Lucky guy.
     
  27. Chris27

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    why would the stepping matter? It should just determine how well the chip overclocks which doesn't really matter in a notebook
     
  28. aphex_22

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    for non-gamers like myself I think the specs indicate the V1J is going to perform great so I'd be most interested in hearing about battery life and heat along with impressions of build quality.
     
  29. Empulse

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    Not looking to good...

    The guy had to send it back, as he had unsolvable problems managing the screen resolution to fit correctly.

    He compared the V1J with his old Acer 1692 Pentium M 740 1.73 GHz

    Build quality: good
    Heat: very much, according to him it produces twice as much as his old Acer
    Screen: Not very bright, and the above mentioned resolutions troubles.
    Performance: Not really much faster than his old Acer, which he especially noticed during the installation of Windows.

    I really wanted to buy it, but not I am starting to doubt. This seemed to be the perfect notebook, and I don't know any other notebook, which looks so good and seemed to be so promising. However, I am not gonna take the risk of buying a piece of crap.
     
  30. PROPortable

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    ... Guys, that's a preproduction model...... same sort of stuff we get.... This kind of crap never turns up on a US retail model..... period... It's one reason we get things later than other areas. Even in other countries though, this review models are meant to find issues as Asus has a **** good plan NOT to have issues like this that are going to cost them more money to fix than if they fixed them prior to production..... don't worry.
     
  31. Jaap-Jan

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    I also have read the thread you're referring to in your posts, but I don't think he's very objective.

    He has a resolution problem and to me he seems quite a newbie, someone who gives up when he can't get something right. He only tried fiddeling with some settings, but he never tried to update the drivers, because the Asus site is slow.

    The only concern I have is the heat and how worse it actually is. I surely hope that I can see and use the notebook before I buy it, but until that is possible I will wait until a decent review is written and not one made by a frustrated buyer. However, I am a bit more sceptical towards this laptop.

    This one is not a preproduction model, it's a laptop one can actually buy in a store, just like the user Empulse referres to has bought. So it must be a production model.
     
  32. jterp7

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    i think what justin meant is that though it is indeed a production model..the US will get it later so that the US version does not have the problems common in early production models
     
  33. Empulse

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    I cannot say I find this a proper way to treat your customers, using them for testing and evaluation purposes, nor is it really good for their reputation.
     
  34. Nocturne_sa

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    yup i totally agree... it seems to show that Europeans are the scapegoats and americans get the benefits... however considering that Asus models always arrive first on European soil + with better specs ( W2J WSXGA screen hint hint) i think its just an excuse. In a nutshell, I believe Asus prefers the European market since some models that are available here dont even land in the US (W1J) + we get better specs + we get them early... If European V1Js have issues then the US ones will definitely have them aswell... period
     
  35. Coda

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    Same here, buying a laptop is going to be quite an investment for me, and for all that money I'm going to spend I want that lappie to be p e r f e c t (well maybe not absolutely perfect, but statisfying to a high degree)

    I've also looked at the S96, which can be configured to have better specs than the V1J for roughly the same amount of money. It however has a WXGA screen, and I strongly prefer a WSXGA+ one. The V1J hás a WSXGA+ screen, but it's matte. (what's up with that? :()

    The third "option" for me is the Z96, with a glossy WSXGA+ screen, and basically everything I want.

    But it's not available in the Netherlands.

    Does anyone know if (and if so, when) it will be available here? (I've asked this in the Z96 owners thread also, but it can't hurt to ask)
     
  36. Empulse

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    I'm pretty sure the build quality of the Z96 is not comparable to that of the V1, and thus for me is one big con. The Z96 targets on a different group with lower budget.
     
  37. Coda

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    True. And as I am an upcoming student (which makes me poor :eek:), the Z96 would be a more suiting option for me than a high-end business notebook.

    Oh well, got two weeks left to wait and make up my mind.
     
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    Does anyone know if Asus will bundle in a micro-DVI -> DVI or micro-DVI -> VGA adapter in with the laptop? I'm assuming they'd opt for VGA seeing as how it's a more popular standard, but if so, how much are they going to charge for other (DVI? HDMI?) adapters?
     
  39. KenshinX

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    thats a hot laptop...i want one :)
     
  40. acgraham

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    i agree this is most annoying, but because i need higher res i will be forced to go with the 1680x1050 option and kill me eyes. maybe i can use those (disabled) accessibilty options to help me out.

    but why asus why? 1440x900 would surely be perfect.
     
  41. acgraham

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    in that review they say -

    "The screen is a 15.4-inch standard TFT panel, at least it sports a widescreen display but it seems a little odd Asus has opted for a standard panel then opted for the ATi Mobility Radeon X1600. True, it’s not a super-high-end gaming card but it deserves a Super-TFT screen to go with it."

    super tft screen? what are they talking about? the resolution or the fact its not glossy? or are they actually saying the quality of the screen is no good?

    what do you guys think?
     
  42. Empulse

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    Don't take that review to serious. To be honest, I think the author dreamed up the entire interview without having actually seen the notebooks ;)
     
  43. TedJ

    TedJ Asus fan in a can!

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    I believe they were hoping for an LCD panel from Krypton... :D
     
  44. nmsystms

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    Does any one know an ETA release date for the V1J with Merom in the US?
     
  45. acgraham

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    if anyone can offer an approximate release date on the v1j for australia that would be good too.

    i just got a quote from some store in germany to deliver the v1j to doha, Qatar, and they said 400 euros. no friggin way. they said it had to be express because with ups it has to be a box, and a box has to be express.
     
  46. Empulse

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    First T7200 V1Js are expected to arrive in Europe on the 12th of September :)
    120GB harddisk
    2GB 667Mhz memory
    €2000
     
  47. MysticGolem

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    The ASUS website say 77whr battery.

    If Merom and all other component take up 30watt per hour, this will mean the V1J gets 2.5 hour without the modular battery.

    This is just guessing of course.

    But if we can bring down the watt consumption to 20watts, then you can get 3.5 hours.

    If the watts consumption is 27watts then you'll get something like 3 hours.

    Would be interesting to see how much this laptop consumes on Max Battery mode.

    Thanks,

    MysticGolem
     
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    holy shikes thats expensive...

    hey milestonepc,

    you said there is a high-spec and low-spec version....i suppose this is the high-spec version...do you have any idea if canada will receive a low-end version with the price tag of the w3j? or has pricing not been finalized?
     
  49. MilestonePC.com

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    Nothing has been confirmed. But offering high and low specs is a great way for users to get more of what they want, since many don't want to void the warranty to have customized specs.
     
  50. Bruce Banner

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    What is the V1J made of? I've heard plastic but I've always associated plastic construction with cheaper models and I'm surprised that Asus would go from metal and carbon fibre to plastic construction. Looking at the pictures the screen looks really thin and I'm doubtful that plastic would be strong enough. Anyone have some real info on this?
     
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