V1J is a Go

Overall, its nothing much to worry about, it just has an empty space.


And yea, fixed the picture

 

thanks for the edit. so how ugly?

edit: question answered.

it doesnt make it wobbly or have a risk of falling out does it?

 

Can't comment, but overall, I believe I used the wrong word and over emphasized it. It's not ugly, but it doesn't look right, since it doesn't merge along with the notebook.

 

thanks. it probably wont be too bad, i love slot-load though. a few more questions of what the v1j does and doesn't have:

fingerprint reader?
pointstick?
scroll buttons on touchpad?
and what's the word on the x1700?

 

On all ASUS laptops, there is a scroll pad, at the right, sometimes its not shown but usually, its easy to figure out where it is.

No pointstick, doubt there will be oned added. The Fingerprint reader is right in the middle of the touchpad buttons.

No idea on the x1700...

 

no pointstick?! NOOOOOO. man i love those too. guess this thing isnt perfect

 

heh best to stick with the business models from hp, dell, or lenovo if you need it that bad..though i'd get a lenovo..they have better pointsticks ...at least the old ones did like my t42

 

Argh. There is no such thing as a X1700. In fact, there doesn't even appear to be a X1700 for desktop either. Personally, I don't even see ATI offering 80nm refreshes of their current chips since 80nm production is very slow right now so they'll probably just go directly to R600 generation parts in January.

Just so that people know, the "new" X1650Pro and X1300XT parts that ATI just announced for desktop are not actually new parts. The X1650Pro is just a relabeled X1600XT and the X1300XT is a relabeled X1600Pro. Depending on your luck, some may be 80nm RV535 based while others are still 80nm RV530 based. This is for desktop of course. Again, there have been no reports of any 80nm versions of the M56 Mobility X1600. Disappointingly, with the Mobility X1600 performing like a desktop X1600Pro, this means that it's performance is now classified as low-end desktop since it's renamed the X1300XT.

 

Any more detailed pics of that model?

Anyways, I think I'm going to hope for a US release of the A8Js at this point

Merom + GF7700

 

Don't make statements if haven't done your research properly. I have found several sites stating there will be a x1700; of which most reliable, the ATI website:

Watch:

Notebooks:
ATI Mobility Radeon X1700 / RV530
http://www.ati.com/developer/vendorid.html

Desktop:
ATI prepares X1700 series
http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=30687

 

The Inquirer article you quote is very old. They originally thought that the RV570 would be the X1700XT and the RV560 would be the X1700Pro. However, that hasn't been the case for a long time. The RV570 is now the X1950Pro and the RV560 is the X1650XT. (The RV530XT/RV535XT being the X1650Pro). There are no longer any X1700 cards. Why I'm not sure, but that is the latest information. Besides these are all desktop cards.

In terms of Mobile cards there have been no reports of new chips. Granted that ATI article is interesting, but I don't think it is indicative of anything. Often in the drivers there are plenty of references and placeholders for various cards. In this case, they name the Mobility X1700 as the RV530. That makes no sense since the RV530 is the desktop 90nm X1600. A true Mobility X1700 would be based on the M57 core which I don't believe there are any references to right now. In theory, the M57 would be based on the RV560 and in that case it wouldn't be a direct replacement to the M56 Mobility X1600 since the RV560's power requirements are likely too high even on the 80nm process which is mainly a cost oriented half-node rather than a power-oriented one. TSMC also has a high-performance version of the 80nm half-node, likely to be used for the R600, and a low-power version, but those 2 processes are less developed right now and the 80nm chips that ATI are starting to introduce on desktop right now are using the standard 80nm process, which in itself is already late. (Although TSMC claims they're pretty much on schedule).

 

OK, I've been keeping an eye out for stockists for the V1J here in Australia, and while I haven't found one yet, I have spotted something interesting.

If the V1J is a successor to the V6J, then it would make sense to either clear or downgrade the V6J prior to a local launch. Yesterday I've spotted two retailers in Melbourne who have announced a V6J with the T2050 and smaller HDD. Nextstep has nothing on their website as yet, but I found this over at Computer World.

 

So you're saying the V6 is outta here? agearnotebooks.com also has a $200 rebate on the V6 and W3 models.

I'm sorry if the V6 is going because it was really something special. I don't think that the V1 is a worthy successor especially since it's: heavy, large, and plastic. Even my Acer has some premium construction materials.

What I wish is that they'd release the V6 with some of the V1 specs and an IPS screen.

 

The V1 should not be replacing the V6, they aren't even in the same category, one is standard 'Thin and Light', the other is a widescreen entertainment machine.

 

"It is unlikely this model will come over to the U.S."

Quote from ASUS while on the phone my agent

For some reason no one things it makes sense to have Core 2 Duo in a 15.4.

I think it makes perfect sense. Oh well for now..

 

After looking at this article I'm slightly more optimistic about a MR X1700, but only slightly.

http://www.google.com/translate?u=h...?storyid=2360&langpair=zh-CN|en&hl=en&ie=UTF8

The problem is that the pictures of the Go 7700 and MR X1700 aren't high enough quality to read the writing on the chip. What's more the MR X1700 chip actually looks exactly like the MR X1600.

http://www.ati.com/designpartners/media/images/MRX1600-chip-lg.jpg

The capacitors look to be in the exact same position and the die looks to be the same size, neither of which are likely for a new chip.

http://translate.google.com/transla...earch?q=%22mobility+radeon+x1450%22&hl=en&lr=

In regards to the Go 7700, this site said it's already launched, but even the nVidia Taiwan website doesn't list it which means it must have been a very quiet event.

For the X1700, there are references to a M66 core, which would make a bit more sense than the RV530 (desktop X1600) references that ATI's site hints. The M66 reference seems to only be in the Linux drivers though so it isn't particularly reassuring. There is also supposedly a M62 X1350, and a M64 X1450, however there isn't a high-end M68.

Still the M6x numbers are only driver references and the fact that there have been no formal rumours from the usual sources, much less a formal announcement makes the whole issue very strange.

 

This thread has been forgotten, we need to bring it back up lads.
I'm getting weaker waiting for it, I looked at Sony's with C2D today for god's sake!!
Help Me!!

 

There has been a lot of talk about the X1650 for the desktop, and the mobile X1700.

If you look at the specs of the W2P, a new laptop, it is located in the Group Buy thread in Buy/Sell section.

The W2P is equipped with a X1700 256mb, however we do not have info regarding its performance.

Many enthusiates are stating the performance is equivalent to the 7600GT or quite possibly better than that.

 

I wish they'd make the V6Va with a new processor and a high-end graphics card. Thin, light, fast, IPS.

 

I've finally found some decent information on the Mobility X1700.

http://64.233.179.104/translate_c?h...x1700+mobility+radeon&start=10&hl=en&lr=&sa=N

So I was both right and wrong. I was wrong in that the Mobility X1700 does exist. But in the end, it might as well be a Mobility X1600. The 2 are base on the same core, 4 pipelines and 12 PS, and are not related to the RV560 and RV570 coming to desktop. The Mobility X1700 doesn't appear to even be a 80nm shrink either. The only difference is that the MR X1700 is produced at UMC instead of TSMC for the MR X1600. ATI is marketing the UMC 90nm process as "improved", but really it's not significant. The MR X1700 looks to be clock a bit higher, but isn't anything earth-shattering.

 

the website ltcommander_data quoted does have the performance figures for the X1700 and the go7700. It says that the A8Jp has the x1700, and the A8Js has the go7700.

3dmark06 scores for the x1700 in the A8Jp is 2139, and the score for go7700 is 2671 in the A8Js.

3dmark05 figures is 4209 for the A8Jp (X1700), and 4291 for the A8Js (go7700). I'd assume these are stock speeds, not OC'ed.

Didn't see the figures anywhere else, so thought I'd post.

 

This is also very interesting:

It would be great to have a V1J with such a card. Personally, I wonder whether it's wise to purchase your V1J as soon as Merom comes out, as I wouldn't be surprised to see a V1J with such a card coming as well (within months?)

 

??? The x1900XT is a desktop PCIe card...so, what do you mean?

 

Forgive my ignorance, I confused the Mac with the Macbook Pro

It would have been great though to have a notebook with such a powerful card.

 

hehe, yah the X1900XT option is for the Mac Pro Desktop, and unfortunately not even available for the MBP 17" .

In anycase, some are still wondering about the V1J, currently ASUS has just mentioned that the docking station is still being in the works.

Once that is complete we will get an answer as to when and what is going on with the V1J.

 

Is there a possibility of the dock being included in the V1J bundle? or is that out of the question?

 

I"m pretty sure it will NOT be included, as docks tend to be quite a chunk of change(I remember a dock for a T21 was abour $120 two years ago).

 

So all the hype about the V1J having a dock is because Asus laptops don't usually have that option?

 

That said, 120$ is still far away from Sony, wanting 200 at least for theirs.

 

i think the dell ones are even worse

 

It is highly unlikely that the Docking station will be bundled with the V1J.

The cost of the docking station is unknown, 120$ wouldn't seem too bad for one in my opinion.

Just have to wait until they complete the docking stating and start to promote and sell the new V1J and we'll see.

 

What material is the V1J made out of?

 

Have been reading this thread with great interest, and joined the group. Fell in love with Asus-notebooks some years ago - are now shopping for my second asus.
As for the material - is seems to be plastic as these two links suggest (small pdf):

http://www.notebookshop.sk/pdf/V1_spec.pdf#search=%22asus%20v1J%20pdf%22

http://www.eu-computer.dk/images/asus_v1j.pdf

 

Some information regarding the V1J from Finland. I'm appalled that you haven't got your V1J's yet! I'm waiting for the upgraded version, and it appears to be right around the corner...

Today I've seen the first Merom V1J's listed as 'coming soon' here. The date is set at 20th of this month. Next and probably last round of 'old' Yonah V1J's are apparently hitting the stores on the 15th. They've ran out of the old version in most stores (surprise, surprise).

http://www.mbnet.fi/hintaseuranta/haku.aspx?hakusana=v1j&hae=Hae
(KPL=stores that list the product, next is lowest price available)

Edit: By the way, the upgraded version ships apparently with 2Gb of RAM and an LS-capable DVD drive, but just the 'ol' fateful' X1600. Not that it needs upgrading, but I'm highly sceptical about the X1650/X1700 there's been talk about.

cheers

 

A shame, would have been very happy that this new, very interesting (for my purposes) laptop has a card like the X1600. Sure, its a high performance card, but its falling behind being the leading edge in medium sized laptops and will be when the next gen comes out. A time to market issue, I guess.

 

So is the V1J ever coming to the US? What's the latest word? Are they waiting for the Merom models or is it not coming at all?

 

From what I've gathered so far, the V1J's dock is not yet done, that's what's holding up the release, as for it coming to N.A, the V1J is not coming according to Milestonepc (sorry didn't catch your name) who spoke to ASUS about it, but Justin (i.e ProPortable) says that theres a different version (V1JP I think) that might.


Allegedly.

 

if they would just put a DVI port in the W3J, i would be happy, and maybe the next gen card, i want to avoid the ATI X1600, then I would be set for life(about 3 years)

 

Can I have your notebook after you die then?

 

No but you can have my dell speakers, and I meant an HDMI port not DVI, I get confused by the mass of letters.

 

DVI really is something that the W3J is sorely missing. HDMI seems too early to ask for... Though with S/PDIF (digital sound out) onboard, I don't see the real need for HDMI, since it would just be replacing two cables (DVI, S/PDIF) with one.

But as said, W3J unfortunately doesn't have either, and thus is out of the question for anyone looking to connect a flatscreen (without digital-to-analog and back conversion) to the laptop.

 

check
http://www.mobile01.com/newsdetail.php?id=2797

This post is in chinese but you can use yahoo or google to translate it. I
think the picture tells the story.In the article the author shows the interior of
V1J. looks like you can change CPU,Memory, and even graphic card(ATI AXIOM)
in the future without breaking the warranty. The laptop he got is the X1600,
T2400 model.

I am also the guy waiting for this V1j become built-in Merom and available in USA
but it seems I need to wait 1 or 2 months more.

 

Similar to many of you, I am hoping to buy a US Merom version of the V1J. I contacted the notebook sales office listed on the US Asus site to see if I could get some info. They state that they don't have any orders pending for the V1J and the rep stated that she didn't know any plans of bringing it to the states. I have read a couple of things noted on this site that seem to suggest that it's coming, but this is discouraging. Any other news?

 

Upgraded V1J's retailers' date of shipment in Finland(/rest of Europe?) just changed, unfortunately. 20th of Sept => 10th of Oct. In case anyone else cares...

 

I suppose we should be asking for V1Jp and not the normal V1Js.

 

In NL they will be available at one store on the 30th of September

 

One store? They're going to import the laptops themselves? Because the real world might catch up with that claim real soon... But hey, hope is a good thing. Let's try to stay positive.

(start useless monolog)
By the way, I've just now checked the prices of 1gb 667mhz memory modules, and started to doubt (or go crazy, not sure which). V1J with Yonah + another gig of RAM would cost about 250-300€ less than the same thing with Merom and an LS-capable drive (anyone uses those?). The laptop will be replacing the worst, slowest pieces of PC equipment known to man, both at home and work. If Yonah would definitely be enough, why not upgrade to Merom later?

 

Does anyone know how much we have to wait to see the V1J with X1700? Been waiting for the V1J, but it appears first shipment will see it with the X1600.... Sorry if what I'm stating is already known, but I so badly want it with a X1700!

 

Opinions differ on the X1700. Personally I think there will be two models (in Europe). One coming with a T5600 Core 2 Duo processor; an X1700 video card (on the Russian and French market).

Another one coming with an X1600 and T7200 Core 2 Duo processor, coming on the other European markets. This card might be upgraded after a few weeks or so.

 

Do you think the V1J will get the Nvidia 7700? Shouldn't an ensemble get Asus get the better graphics card(a recent test showed that the 7700 > ATi X1700)?