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    V2Sv vs F8Sv

    Discussion in 'Asus' started by Q8PHANTOM, Jul 22, 2007.

  1. DTX

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    As the post in the last page indicated, the W3J is NOT 13.3", but 14.1". I did also mention the word "CLOSE" with regards to the W3J and V2S. :D
     
  2. Bona Fide

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    :eek: My mistake. Yeah otherwise they are similar.
     
  3. Zedr0n

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    Well, I've also mailed to asuslaptop.co.uk and they have no info regarding V2S yet. And I thought I'd buy a laptop while I'm in UK :(
     
  4. eyepwnuall

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    NICE but what is up with the ATI sticker on the V2Sv?
     
  5. Redline

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    It must be a picture of the older V2Je, which used an ATI Radeon X1450 graphics card. On the outside, the V2S and the V2Je will look identical, save for the stickers (Vista, Centrino Pro, and Nvidia as opposed to XP, Centrino Duo, and ATI).
     
  6. odin243

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    Is anybody else starting to think that the 14.1" T61p might be a better alternative than either of these Asus models? It has the kick a** graphics card, and the great build quality. Right now the cool swivel webcam on the F8sv is the only thing that I'd really miss ....
     
  7. Bona Fide

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    I would love for people to actually research what they're talking about before they say it.

    1. The Quadro 570M is made for workstations. It wouldn't be able to compete with a gaming card like the 8600GS because it's not made for that. Sure you could use hacked drivers to make it into a pseudo-8600GT, but that's risky and probably will void your warranty. Also it only has 128MB graphics memory on the 14" model, against both the V2S and F8S with 256MB.

    2. Asus' V Series is just as solid, if not more solid, than any Lenovo laptop.
     
  8. odin243

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    1.) The Quadro 570M is a workstation graphics card. Do you know what that means? It means it's tested to be stable under much more intense situations than a normal Geforce card. The 570m is the exact same hardware as the 8600GT, it's just better tested and has OpenGL optimized drivers. Installing the nVidia Geforce drivers makes it the same as an 8600M-GT, and no, it does not void your warranty. Also, the 570M comes with highly clocked GDDR3 memory, so it will perform better than either the F8SV or the V2s in games.

    2) The Asus V series is very nice, I admit it. But it does not have the same durability as the Thinkpad workstation machines, I'm sorry.
     
  9. wstokes

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    Well the t61p 14.1" is not a widescreen....I can see if you thought it was, because they have a 14" widescreen laptop picture shown when you are customizing it.
     
  10. odin243

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    No, I know it's not widescreen. I never said it was. However it has just as many horizontal pixels, so it doesn't really bother me. It can play a widescreen movie in just as good resolution as a WXGA+ screen can.
     
  11. Bona Fide

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    Really? I wasn't aware that flashing your card with different firmware and installing different drivers was covered under warranty. ;)

    Also, the V2S has the same highly clocked (clocked higher than the 8600GT in fact) GDDR3 memory. It also has twice as much, which can easily overcome the stream processor deficit in texture- and shader-heavy games. I would say the 256MB 8600GS and 128MB 8600GT are roughly even in terms of power.
     
  12. odin243

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    Installing new drivers is an upper level software process, which does not change the low level operations of the GPU, thus it can not cause the sort of failure that would void a warranty. Installing moddified drivers will not void your warranty.
    Then you would be wrong. The 128mb 8600MGT (such as on the MBP) easily trumps the 8600M-GS in benchmarks and games. The 128mb and 256mb versions of the 8600M-GT actually perform pretty similarly. Check this out.
     
  13. Francisco

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    Hi, I'm new in this forum...

    I'm thinking in buying the Asus V2S, but the version that is available in my country, Portugal (V2S - 4S023E), is a bit better... It has a Nvidia 8600GT with 512Mb (eh, eh!!!). I don't no if it is GDDR2 or GDDR3. It also has a Intel Core 2 Duo 7500 (2.20GHz) processor.

    Basically it has the same specifications of the V1S available in Portugal (V1S - AS004E), but has a smaller 14,1'' display.

    Does someone no another country, maibe also in Europe that has the same version of V2S (V2S - 4S023E) ??? I'm searching for a review of it...
     
  14. CheerCake

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    guys F8sv or F8sa are coming soon~
    w000t
     
  15. Redline

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    They were "coming soon" a month back too. Soon is a relative term, and until I see a reseller saying that they have units and are shipping them as they type, I won't believe that they are actually coming, soon or otherwise.
     
  16. CheerCake

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    xDD

    thats true
    but some said on this forum F8sa is out in Euro already
    that means its coming out in Asia.. soon. =)
     
  17. odin243

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    Yes, we know it's out in Europe, but that does not necessarily have anything to do with it's release date in any other market. Asus has done weird **** in the past with release dates, and they will most likely continue to do so.
     
  18. CheerCake

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    that sucks :mad:
     
  19. marioparty

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    The F8Sa (ATI HD2600) is out in China so may be soon in NA?
     
  20. odin243

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    If it coms to NA at all. I know the F8sv-A1 is scheduled to come here, but I doubt that the F8sa will be released (at least initially) in NA.
     
  21. Kakoon

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    Hi,

    I am looking to buy 14 inches laptop with at least 8600GS.

    I owned Asus A8Jm with Nvidia Go 7600 512ram and I really liked it so I am looking for something alike.

    It looks like my choice is as mentioned in this topic, as there is no other company (than ASUS) that offers 14.1 laptop with strong graphic card and Santa Rosa.

    Can anyone confirm that the V2Sv that is coming out anyday in th US has a GDDR3?

    Question for Franciso from Portugal - how much is the V2Sv with 8600GT you are talking about?

    Untill the end of September I'm in US so I would like to buy a laptop here as the prices are usually 15-30% lower than in EU.

    What is the best place to buy V2Sv? Does anyone knows a place in D.C. area when you can see (and touch) Asus computers?

    Cheers,

    Kakoon
     
  22. odin243

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    The European V2s has an extremely cripple graphics card, about on par with an 8400M-GS. There's no reason to think that the North American version will be any different.
     
  23. HolyPastafari

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    Where did u get that information from? I thought it's an 8600GS with 256MB GDDR3?
     
  24. VendettA

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    HolyPastafari, a few of the members here have actually had their V2s' for quite a while now . . .

    You can read the whines at this thread: http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=157550

    p.s. I think it's worth to note that quite a number are also unsatisfied with the battery life or something . . .

    added:
    The 8600gs in the V2s appears to have a 64-bit bus width (ilikeicehockey got this info from Ales) instead of a 128 one . . . find out more in that thread . . .
     
  25. wuzertheloser

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    well, ASUS really dropped the ball on this model. i guess there was too much hype before the actual product was released.
     
  26. odin243

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    I've heard this posted several different times, but I have no idea where anyone is getting this idea from. I haven't seen a good battery life test of the V2s yet. There was a rumor that the V1s might have a battery wear problem, but it does not look like that's the case, and even if it was it has nothing to do with the V2s.
     
  27. AnYGoOd

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    I can confirm that at my country (Portugal) the v2s has the folowing specs:

    Intel Core 2 Duo T7500 (2.20 GHz)
    14'' WXGA+ Color Shine (1400x900)
    Nvidia GeForce 8600 GT 512 MB dedicted/1024 MB TC (gddr2 ou gddr3 ?) -> I dunno
    2048 MB (1024x2) DDR2 667 (up to 4GB)
    Docking station
    160 GB SATA 5400 rpm + TPM
    DVDRW Supermulti
    Webcam 1.3 MP
    Gigabit LAN 802.11a/g/n BT/ 3.5G
    Fingerprint
    Robson 1GB Turbo Memory
    3 USB
    1 E-SATA
    1 HDMI

    Dimension & Weight: 341mmx245mmx29~36mm(W x D x H)
    2.3kg (6cell)

    Price:
    1 699.90 €

    I just ordered one last friday so... im just waiting to get mine... :)
     
  28. odin243

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    What are the dimensions and weight listed for this laptop?
     
  29. AnYGoOd

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    341mmx245mmx29~36mm(W x D x H)
    2.3kg(6cell)
     
  30. marioparty

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    Lets go on a Portugal tour :D
     
  31. VendettA

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    Er, sorry if I sounded misleading. I'll admit I'm not 100% sure, but I'm pretty positive that the V2s does not have the fantastic battery life. But, again, sorry if I'm mistaken.
     
  32. HolyPastafari

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    @VendettA

    mhh, i'm not sure how trustable that information is. Is that confirmed by Asus with the 64-Bit Bus? May be an old Bios or somethin?
    Are there any benches (3dmark 06) already? I was expecting a performance like the Asus F3SV.
    I could not understand why the V2S has a 64 But Bus?
    Could that be a heat issue?
     
  33. marioparty

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    If you want fantastic battery life, get a integrated graphic laptop.
     
  34. odin243

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    That's quite possible, but their is no proof or even confirmed rumor of it yet. And I was mainly responding to those who think there's some sort of battery wear problem, which seems to be a completely unfounded rumor as far as I can tell.
     
  35. Ichigo

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    You can find more than acceptable battery life in a notebook with a dedicated GPU. Just because yours doesn't is not reason enough to be all bitter. ;)
     
  36. coriolis

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    Just something to look at for now :rolleyes:
     
  37. coriolis

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    Oh, and not to be unfair to the F8 folks...
     
  38. wuzertheloser

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    okay....so what's with all the rumors about the V2s having a crippled 8600GS or even the 8400? man....now i want the v2s again!
     
  39. odin243

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    The only hard information we have on the V2s is on European versions which have a 64-bit DDR2 8600M-GS, which performs the same as the 8400M-GS. No one on the forums knows anything about other versions of the laptop, I don't think.
     
  40. Starchild

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    :eek: Where do I send the cheque?
     
  41. Ultim4

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    Oh god damn it ASUS. Just as I almost convinced at getting the F8Sa :rolleyes:. Dunno if we'll get a V2S at all in the UK, though :(.

    I wonder if it'll be crippled? I mean, if they had problems getting a GS into the V2S, how can they manage the GT?

    BTW Cori, where'd you find that?
     
  42. marioparty

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    No, someone else from Portugal posted a different spec with 8600GT 512MB. He already preordered and the reseller confirmed to him few times that it comes with 8600GT. Now talk about messy launch and slow launch. Now it might worth the wait for V2S. Then again, I'll see how F8S stands against V2S.
     
  43. coriolis

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    Of course, that is not confirmed, I found that tidbit randomly in...oh, one of my sources :p

    Aye, I really don't expect the V2 to have the 8600GT to be honest...
     
  44. Starchild

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    Could this be the reason for the delays?
     
  45. odin243

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    When I said that, I meant we've heard from users that have it in their hands and have done benchmarks and run Everest and such on it. Untill we see similar results from the Portugal version, we don't really know anything.
     
  46. Ultim4

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    odin's correct. It has been known for resellers to occaisionally get slightly incorrect specs (be it from ASUS themselves or some other source they think is reliable) and post them up believing they're accurate. Until we have proof from users about the GPU we have no idea if it's actually a 8600GT. It may even turn out that the card is crippled (a la the 8600GS version of the V2S), which we won't know until someone puts up benchmarks and diagnostic tests.
     
  47. unnamed01

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    Well under the Canada Computers website which can be found here it says the V2Sv has a 8600GT with 512MB.
     
  48. Night

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    Interesting. Looks like ill just duke it out at university without a notebook for the first 1-2 months. Since I am off campus this year, its pretty inconvenient for me to have a desktop that is sitting 15 minutes away from where I am most of the day. I guess in the end it should be worth it as I want the best value for my money...I am a student after all.
     
  49. marioparty

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    There is a very nice deal on thinkpad t60 through visaperk for Canadian ;) ($1600CAD shipped + taxed) . The V2S is going to be like $2000CAD+ after tax.
     
  50. Ultim4

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    Since Portugese resellers have apparently ammended their specs with a GS instead of GT, it doesn't look too hopeful for a 8600GT V2S anywhere :(.
     
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