W3J Advance Order Thread

Well I have been waiting for over a year till the right laptop came along, so whats another 2-3 weeks... I mean if we are not getting them, no one else is either, so its not as if you can just go and buy it from anywhere else!

Anyhow..... I just landed at LAX so got plenty to keep me occupied till it comes

 

Hah! This is nothing compared to my wait(7+ months) for a friggin mouse

Hang in there guys, waiting is never fun, but you've already waited so far, just a tad more!

 

Well, guess it really counts as a graduation present now.

 

Thanks for the re-encouragement. It helps.

 

The least I could do...

 

Mystic did you get Justin's e-mail (if you ordered a W3J). Asus’ update included an updated ETA to us which simply said: “do not expect them delivered to you until at least the end of May”. So if Justin gets them at the end of may it could possibly be 4-5 weeks before he can ship them out.

 

maybe the most update ETA is 6/15?

 

I was really interested in this laptop. It's a shame its taking so long. One question, are any of you afraid it will be out of date shortly after you get it? I know the tech world moves fast and things outdate quickly, but Merom is slated for August, and these things are looking like mid-June.

Also, for the record, Latitudes are pretty decent notebooks. Even if they weren't why air dirty laundry on a public forum. Unless I missed the post where the guy said he was going to a Latitude(which is possible, I mean there are 51 pages!) why make that public. Even if he did post it, as a businessman, why get into a pissing contest? Don't get all sour grapes because you decided to do a pre-order on a product that did not have a firm release, and someone now thinks the wait has been too long and cancels.

 

sry Johnny9ball im not apart of the pre-order, hence I don't recieve update emails on this issue. But thanks for quoting it.

Cashmonee, i talked about this issue in another thread.
Lets say Merom releases in august Acer and Toshiba will be most likely the FIRST to bring out models with Merom. After that it would be Dell, then after everyone else at their own pacel.

If you look at ASUS, they have one of the slowest release times, 2 reasons i came up with is that, slower production rates may lead to increase built quality.

Also this time ASUS went really far with all their Yonah models, they have sooo many models!. So no wonder why people havta wait for them to come out.

Lets say the V1J is the last laptop that ASUS releases, which is the one i like, it would be obsolete right on release.

Waiting: We are all humans there is only so much we can hold on before we CRACK and then havta take different measures. Everyone will have their own reasons for cracking and buying another laptop for their needs.

We know the W3J is an awsome laptop, but if you can't wait due to some circumstances, then you will havta look to something else. (W3v)

Thanks,

MysticGolem

 

All good points Mystic.

Bottom line is if you want an Asus, and "soon", you're not going to be getting one with a Merom. Prob. 07' before you see them I would guess.

I'm back and forth on what the best thing for me to do...I'm really just dreading waiting another month and finding out I have to wait even longer. And then what if the specs change again (just thinking out loud, but it's a valid worry as far as I'm concerned)...

THEN I take a look around as to what available now and I remember how great the W3j is (performance, price and size) and why I wanted it in the first place. What I really don't want to do is wait 6 months just so I can get a Merom and for what?

 

I know for me there is no reason to upgrade to Merom unless I'm getting Vista and there is no need to upgrade to Vista unless I want dx 10. I'm looking at waiting at least another year for a laptop that supports dx 10...

 

Just imagine if Asus got their **** together...... man they would sell soo many notebooks.

I suppose its just down to shear volume, and that Asus manufacture laptops for other companies surely compounds the situation.

Hopefully with time their future distribution will get better, I wonder if there should be a poll.... I was going to get an Asus.. but couldn't get one...
I am sure there will be a few

 

I am with you on that one, Vista has been pushed out till 2007, and from what I last heard it is a bit of a system hogg, and it will take even longer for software companies to update their software to support windows 64bit programs, the W3J will be safe for at least 2 years... in my opinion anyway

 

Not to mention I bet Merom is super expensive upon release - I'm just speculating, but I bet it's a case of paying a premium for just release tech only to wait for some time before that investment REALLY pays off.

In the meantime, I'll be flying around on my W3j, playing games and writing...living the dream.

 

It still isn't an easy situation either way though. The more the w3 gets pushed back the closer we get to 64 bit and more importantly for me, dx 10. The closer we get the more inclined I am to say "screw it" and just wait it out on my AGP clunker desktop. Then I'd be looking at a $200 upgrade that could hold me over for a year when Vista, dx 10, and 64 bit will all be a reality.

 

I'm in the W3j pre-order waiting que as well. I had a similar experience with IBM a few years ago, waiting for a new t43p. After months of waiting, the machine arrived only too buggy to use, what a disappointment. I sent it back and bought a Sony. The Vaio 360p has been a decent computer, it runs hot, and their support was poor. According to Sony its a notebook not a laptop so running hot should not be a problem as it was never designed to sit on your lab and scald the hell out of you. Now on to Asus. I'm willing to wait it out with my Sony vaio, however, and I hope ASUS is listening, that my tolerance of anything not working correctly will be quite low from this delay. I hope the W3j lives up to its hype, the UK reviews show intial satisfaction, but as we all know its the comments 4-8 weeks later after real usage that tell the tale whether the W3J is a winner. This is a good thing as follow-up evaluations should be coming out prior to any of us receiving our pre-orders, so we could still cancel if we need to.

So Asus, take as much time as you like. Make sure the product is terrific.
My 2cents.

 

I couldnt agree with you more. Because of the delays and changes I am not as excited about the w3 as I once was. Now if it comes with flaws I just dont think there is anyway I could be pleased with it and my tolerance in dealing with those flaws will be minimal. I just hope the release goes hitch free and it is amazing once I get it (I hope my expectations arent too high either). That way, when I get it I can assure myself "it was worth the wait."

 

For sure, the excitement is only about 2% there now. Now it's just... well... whenever (if whenever) it gets here... well, then it gets here... Just that sort of feeling.

It isn't beta so that's a good thing, they had the W3V to work off of so we should be technically safe as far as that goes.

The fact that TheKingDavids hasn't come back here demonstrates either he's enjoying the W3J a ton and spends all his time with it and has none to spare to the forums or he could be... just enjoying it. That's some good news.

 

Well said ycd.tsai (interesting name). I agree with you....I feel the exactly the same.

 

YC = My initials D = Middle name TSAI = Last name, can't go wrong with that combo =)

Well, I'm considering the E1405 Dell now... it's so dang cheap. I realize it has no video card, but everything else is just on par with the W3J or better. I realize build quality might not be as good too, but I can suffer with a $500+ dollar difference.

The recent W3V screen issues popping up is starting to worry along with the heat issue that delayed the shipment....

 

I'm not sure you should be worrying about the screen. As far as I can tell from the threads here, it's a very small percentage of all the w3v's out there - probably a lot smaller percentage of people, than those that have problems with their Dell's.
I'd actually be keen to see some stats like: Total number of Inspirons sold/Number of Inspirons sent in for any kind of service - versus- The Number of Total Asus laptops sold (any model)/Number sent in for any kind of service.
The closest I can come to getting hold of these sort of figures is by reading the Asus forum here and the Dell forum here. Not even close. Asus is much more reliable.

 

Or he is having lots of problem and hasnt come back because of it

 

That's the positive way of looking at things.

 

It seems to me that out of everyone that buys a product, those more likely to post somthing on any forum are those that have touble and are looking for help or those that want to complain and vent. People that are genuinely happy/satisfied with their product rarely bother to say so in a public forum.
I think it stands as a huge mark in Asus's favour that out of the 40K post's here, that the positive ones outweigh the negative by a large margin.

 

Believe it or not... that's not just how you think.... or I think.. but it's been studied and you can research it yourself on any random forum around the web. Anyone with the slightest stratch on something they bought want to tell ten of their friends....... However people who are truely satisfied beyond their expectations might end up telling a few people. The problem with the web is that those who are ticked in the most remote way end up telling the world with one post on a forum and if they really want to take out their aggression, they'll pad thier problems so other people don't just think their crazy. On the other hand, those who are happy honestly go back to their lives. I think it's great that I could count the problems people have had with Asus systems from around the world in the time we've been in business on probably my fingers and toes..... People who know Asus, know how to post stuff on line..... we're not talking about people who buy something just because they saw it on tv....... and yet some of those other computer companies, have far more issues and even to the point where if you really looked around you could find just as many people who think they bought the best thing on earth... while the other half who bought the same model think it's the biggest piece of junk they've ever used. That type of polarization speaks for itself, but no news is good news...... I think we can all safely assume that everyone with a problem... anywhere in the world... has made a post online about it and we've all seen it two or three times...... that's just how it goes.... all dirt is picked up and questioned by would be consumers.... On the other hand, there are a LOT of Asus systems out there today and without a reason to come back into the forums..... why would post anything? To help other people? .... come on, this is America.

 

haha, come to think of it, it IS that bad, huh? Alright then, I vow a complete comprehensive 2 week review of the W3J

 

we're holding you accountable, or your w3j is mine.

 

That's the thing... you say " two week review".... people should come back once a month at least for a while...... if that happens, the forum would be really rockin..... the truth of the matter is that when something runs as you expected in your life, it becomes a tool and you just expect it to work and all the joy slowly slips away..... this forum will be the furthest thing away from most of your minds in a month or two.

 

Well, if there's a more efficient way of reviewing it (initial + 2 week + 1 month?), let me know and I'd be more than happy to oblige. Other than that, all I can offer would be to answer some questions here and there once I recieve the laptop.

It is true, however, that when we get out computers, we'll probably post less while some may never post again. But that doesn't necessarily make us selfish leeches, it may just be that we have priorities that take precedence over NBR - nothing personal, really. I agree, though, it would be awesome to have people return and help out the asus community. I'm certain that a lot of us would stay and help if we had the time for it. I for one, will have very limited time when summer is over - a part time job + 75hours/week at school just won't allow it.

 

No, I'm talking about how your two week review isn't good enough.... not because you can't do it, because all reviewers we've ever sent anything to usually don't take longer than that... but what I'm saying is that after two weeks you'll be gone and that's unfortunate because it's a month or two after the notebook comes out where people really get all up online about it.... in mid to late July we'll have posts on this forum about "the new w3j".... I'm just saying if you could come back every couple weeks for a while and let everyone know how it's going and comment on questions that are asked, you'll be a lot more helpful.

 

Anyone who has an advanced order placed with us needs to check their email....

 

Justin,
Good move on your part. Since you are giving those of us who preordered the chance to order first again, I can see that doing this isn't going to delay the arrival of the W3j at my door by more than a couple of days (if at all), but with the double bonus of (1) really letting Asus know how important it is to comunicate to their customers, and (2) giving the customer a saftey net so they don't feel "buyers remorse".
I do feel sorry that you have already put so much work into this and that your staff are going to be absolutely exhasted on release day.

 

Thank you for doing as much as you could making this preorder work. I am one with a voided order and I'll be sure to order once they arrive. I'll keep my fingers crossed that there are no more delays and they arrive as Asus advertised.

 

I'm disappointed with this whole process, having pre-ordered twice and been cancelled twice due to circumstances beyond our control.

Is the 3rd time the charm?

 

3rd time is ALWAYS the charm.

DrB makes a good point though - it's the best position to be in if you're not unwaveringly committed - if the unit ships with a 4200RPM drive or a 680x420 res monitor, you'll be able to drop trow without having to unbutton your pants (figuratively speaking of course).

 

Justin, also one of the voided here, It's unfortunate that it had to come to that, but I understand why you chose that course of action, and it is perfectly reasonable. I think you would avoid more problems this way anyway and it saves both parties from a lot of headaches if things go bad. Thanks for keeping us as up to date as is within your power. The worst thing I can think of right now is that the laptop bag and mouse that I bought for it have to wait a little longer for their friend....

 

My order wasn't voided but I also want to lend my support to your decision. I've come to get a good sense of the integrity you operate with in your business and I'm glad I'm buying from someone that puts his customers and product first.

I think you're absolutely right about customer being 100% solid in wanting a unit. That was me a month ago but since then I've gone through more ups and downs regarding the whole process than I'd like to admit (the RAM change and then my comp ****ping out in addition to all the delays).

I also appreciate you taking responsibility for the problems that have arisen. I don't think any of us blame you for what has transpired. Its unfortunate that Asus doesn't understand what "final specs" are and they have no conviction to keep their customers in the loop. You're doing everything you can and as well as you possibly could as far as I'm concerned.

 

hmm, i don't have access to the e-mail acc at home that i receive justin's updates from, can someone PM me the gist of it?

 

sure.........

 

Well thanks for the support.... I don't really need it, but it's appreciated.

I really everyone could see some of the responses I've gotten in the last couple days.... 99% of them were on the level, but that 1% really drove me crazy.... Everything from being called "unethical" for well.... for providing a service to advanced order customers and give them a $50 discount for those who agree to pay now and wait as long as it takes... OK... and the "I don't want to get your stupid update emails".... I know doing a background check on customers is probably pretty hard, and they probably couldn't help pick out jerks anyway.... but it would be nice.

 

You gotta do what you gotta do. Very respectable.

One question, Justin...will the voidees have the opportunity to retain the advanced order discount?

 

Wow the drama of the W3J takes yet another turn. This is turning into more of a soap opera with more twists and turns than a Hitchcock film. Staring Asus as the bad guy, Customer's as the jilted lover, and Jason/Proportable as the hero who will ride in on his white stallion and save the day. I just hope it has a happy ending.

 

We'll keeping our allocation until we find out everything is coming in as planned. Yet, at this time, the notebooks are already made and they're getting what they ordered........ So our allocation will be there now whether we want them or not. If they come in correct, we'll give all of those voidees as you put them, another oppurtunity to get them with they discount.... probably a week before we open them up for release day sales (as long as everything goes well). My plan is to push our "release" back if needed to get any and all advanced orders out of the way. So, that means if everything comes in as planned, if we have to hold off saying they're "in stock" for a week or more, just to get all the advanced orders out first... that's what we'll do...... Hell, if we need to shut down for a few days just so we can all process reorders..... we'll do that and won't be bothered by phone calls or emails...

 

http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=262520

What's up w/ it being stock there - has to be an error right?

 

Well they haven't even left the production facility yet........ so I certainly hope so. I'll gladly reimburse of those left on the procesed AO list and send them over there if that's the truth.... because if it is, it would mean that our relationship with Asus is over. It's already been on the rocks for the last 9 months or so.... This would be the equivalent of seeing your girlfriend with another guy... and worse, pretending she doesn't know you. I've gone through that quietly once in my life...... this time would be more on the level of going home and throwing all her stuff out in the street.... if you catch my drift.

.... again, I'm more up on this stuff than Asus is sometimes...... in fact, last night I gave one of the guys at Asus the news before he did because his boss got to me before him..... so.... I think what bothers me the most about your question is that it's almost impossible for them to do this to me without me having a clue, let alone them want to screw up a good thing. I could see that if the new PM came from the outside, but I've been dealing with him since he started a few years ago on pocket pc's and wireless devices.... we've had our differences, but we've certainly got a mutal respect for each other.

 

I'm thinking about giving them a call or at least shooting them an email to see whats up. I gotta agree with Justin though. If he hasn't received any and Danny and Sasha haven't received any why would zipzoomfly have any? They also leave some of the specs vague. The harddrive says 60/80/100/120 gb supported and the RAM says either 533/667.

I think all we can take from this is that another company is expecting a shipment soon and thats good for those of us waiting.

 

^ If you do it dude, let us know what they say...I'm like 99% sure it's as been speculated (ERROR) but it's an interesting experiment none the less. No way they can be the ONLY ones with it.

 

Well it says its in stock. Weard.

 

I just spoke to Cust. Service at zipzoomfly.com The individual first said it would take 1-2 days to come from Asus and 1-2 days for them to process an order. I asked again letting him know that no one else that I am aware of in the US has this item available, probably not until end of May early June and he said that they are unable to update their web site to show this, and that the item would be delivered in the same time as other vendors. Strange, but to me this looks like a the only way zzf can have a pre order is to list it as in stock.

 

^ Not like they said...oh yeah - we have a bunch in the back. Clearly they're not informed.