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    Which ASUS model is this?

    Discussion in 'Asus' started by jsis, Jun 5, 2007.

  1. simonfzhao

    simonfzhao Notebook Evangelist

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    lol now i'm stuck..
    G1s v.s. F8Sv v.s. V2s
    it's a free for all..
     
  2. Redline

    Redline Notebook Prophet NBR Reviewer

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    The F8Sa showed up on the support pages in addition to the Sv; I think it is safe to assume that it is the ATI version. Based on historical reference, this means the Sa should be slightly less powerful and a couple of hundred dollars cheaper than the Sv, but offer the same config outside of the GPU.

    Emphasis on " should" in that sentence; I have no definite info on it. But it just seems that after the A8Jm/a and A8Js/p, with the ATI models have been significantly cheaper and slightly less powerful, it makes logical sense that their successors follow the same paradigm.

    [On a slightly unrelated note: holy crap, I managed to use paradigm in a sentence! :D]
     
  3. Sunnyass

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    aite...same here but slightly different:

    G1s vs. F8sv (or F8sa depending on which ones better) vs. V1s


    well, so far the g1s is 1800 while the v1s is 50 bucks more...with a DDR2 card which logically supports the "business class" thing which asus in trying to do! THe F8 is really attracting as it is porb gona be around 1500, which is significantly cheaper than the g1s...plus, it looks cooler anyways! Does anyone have a freakin clue of when the f8 is goin to be released???? im lookin to buy it before school starts in the fall...with that, does anyone think that the g1s-a1 price will go down with the recent announcement of the new model and the A2/3??? cheers
     
  4. Redline

    Redline Notebook Prophet NBR Reviewer

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    The F8 is priced at $1599. I must say, it is much better than the G1 anyday, because it is over a pound lighter, offers the same performance, and costs $300+ less. I also think the G1 is hideous (the border at the top of the screen is like 2 inches thick!), whereas the F8 has a sleek and clean design with the best hinge design of any notebook out there.
     
  5. paperkut

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    I think Vivek might be the only force yet to stop me from ditching the F8 and getting a V2S.
     
  6. blow

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    F8, V1 and V2 have fingerprint authentication?
     
  7. Q8PHANTOM

    Q8PHANTOM Notebook Evangelist

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    Yes all of them have Fingerprint.

    Please all guys let's discusses these notebooks in just one thread.
     
  8. wuzertheloser

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    agree with Phantom....too many threads about the F8 / V1s / V2s already.
     
  9. wuzertheloser

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    hinge...true
    but how reliable is it. if they crammed everything the G1 has into a cheaper chassis...
     
  10. marioparty

    marioparty Notebook Consultant

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    This is the oldest thread discussing the F8...
     
  11. Redline

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    Look at the A8Js: it was essentially a G1p stuffed into a smaller and cheaper 14" chassis; it turned out to be (by far) Asus' best selling laptop. There were a few problems with the paint fading, but thats about it. With the finish of the F8 being essentially the same as the HP Imprint scratch-resistant finish, it shouldn't have that problem. I also think that they will have stepped up the quality on this, but I cannot say for sure.
     
  12. fabarati

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    The (outer) cas is also pretty scratch prone, but like Vivek said, that shouldn't be a problem. Another annoying issue with the A8 is the touchpad. It's sticky and the finish wears off. Luckily, they've changed that as well.
     
  13. Redline

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    I hope the F8 touchpad is not like the C90 touchpad. Eddie's (BTOTech) review of the C90 soundly bashed the touchpads feel and quality....
     
  14. Zedr0n

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    Hm, looking at the weight of F8Sv - 5.7 lbs? that's a bit too much for 14,1" notebook, I think
    I'm starting to look towards V2S - can anybody tell me if F8s has DDR2 8600GT? As it was mentioned in another thread V2S has GDDR3 and it is said that
    8600GS GDDR3 = 8600GT DDR2(8600GS GDDR3 has 3600 scores overclocked)

    Basically, is there such a big difference between V2s and F8s graphics wise?
     
  15. odin243

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    In gaming performance, the 8600M-GT with DDR2 memory should always perform better, sometimes much better, than the 8600M-GS. Synthetic benchmarks aside, the F8Sv should be significantly more powerful in games than the V2s.
     
  16. wuzertheloser

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    true, synthetic benchmarks don't mean much in real life.
     
  17. FlamingRug

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    However, there is a thread with real game FPS showing similar performance.
     
  18. wuzertheloser

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    interesting...in that case...the v2s should own the g1s and f8s....top notch quality and similar gaming performance...
    but i bet in later dx10 games...the v2s will perform less than the 8600 gt
     
  19. odin243

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    Yeah, and if you look at the real world performance you'll see that the 8600GT DDR2 is between 15-30% faster, minimum, than the 8600GS. That's significant enough to me to make the V2s not worth it as a gaming machine. However, the difference I'll really be interested in is battery life. In all likelyhood, I'll get the one with the best battery life out of the three (V2S, F8Sa, F8Sv).
     
  20. wuzertheloser

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    well, i'm pretty sure the v2s will get better battery life than the F8sv since it's using a lower power graphics card...
     
  21. Redline

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    All three will likely have really crap battery life, around 2 hours. The V2S may have slightly better life than the F8Sv, but not by much unless it has the modular bay (which doesn't look like its coming to the US at the very least, if at all) They all have the same specs, aside from the GPU, and even that is pretty close in terms of speed and power consumption for all three.

    What the people are saying is that the 8600GS (there is no DDR2 version of it, GDDR3 only) can be overclocked to give the same 3DMark06 as a stock-clocked 8600GT DDR2. However, if you overclock the 8600GT, you can blow it out of the water. Hence the difference in frame rates.
     
  22. Q8PHANTOM

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    The V2S will be very good machine for gaming but the F8Sv will be better for gaming.(We will see how much the F8 better than the V2S in terms of gaming after the 2 machines released.)
    So every one must choose for his needs.
    For me i know don't play real games that need a GPU power but i plan gaming when i get the V2S.
    And i don't like the silver color of the palm rest for the F8 and i like the look of the V2S better but that's just me and many other's will like the F8 finish more. :)
    Don't forget the V2S come with 2 batteries 6 cell and 9 cell but the F8 can't accept 9 cell battery at all (that's just for know maybe it could latter).
    For me it's all about battery life and the professional look of the V2S.
     
  23. odin243

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    It's confirmed that the V2s will have an optional 9 cell battery?
     
  24. wuzertheloser

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    well, on the Excalibur PC site, it says both 6 and 9 cells are included in the box :)
     
  25. marioparty

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    Then the V2S is really good deal.
     
  26. wuzertheloser

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    yup...already preordered mines :)
     
  27. marioparty

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    Does the V2S include the docking station?
     
  28. jetnis

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    Will the V2S have LEDs for the screen?
     
  29. coriolis

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    The V2s doesn't say a LED screen so I doubt it. The V1 and V2 docking station is sold separately.
     
  30. wuzertheloser

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    Pricey too....~$150 - $200 everywhere I looked
     
  31. jetnis

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    ahhhh no LEDs......................mbp.....Does any Asus have LEDs screens.....
     
  32. coriolis

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    Which is about right if you compare other brands of notebooks with docking stations.

    The U1 and U3 so far.
     
  33. wuzertheloser

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    i guess most people don't need the docking station anyways
    it's just something that'd be nice to have.
     
  34. Redline

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    Hmm, the extended battery also included with the V2s makes it an interesting deal.

    You can still count me out (and in the F8Sv :D) since, extended battery or not, the price is still a bit too much to justify.
     
  35. ridestp

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    I just talked with a sales rep for Asus, and he said that the information he had stated the F8Sv would be released in September, though it may not be available right away. However, he said that he didn't know the price or specifications of the notebook.
     
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    I'm assuming that the F8Sv will have DDR2 VRAM, even though it hasn't been confirmed (has it?) . I really wish that the F8Sa notebook would come to the U.S., as I expect it would be cheaper than the F8Sv, but still offer respectable graphics performance.
     
  38. Redline

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    I think it makes more sense for it to have DDR3 VRAM, since DDR3 runs cooler. In such a small chassis, every bit of heat counts for much more than it does with a DTR like the C90s, or a 15" like the V1s. Not sure if it actually will have DDR3, but it would be nice if it did.

    As for the F8Sa, the A8Ja never came here, and the A8Jp was only ever offered by Newegg. So its a pretty safe bet that the F8Sa will either be offered by newegg a while after the Sv launches, or it won't be available here at all. Kinda sad, but I like the better GPU of the Sv.
     
  39. wuzertheloser

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    if it did have the GDDR3, I think it'd make it a clear winner over any 15" gaming notebook ASUS has to offer. Unless of course, you like the bigger screen of the V1s and G1s, but that can be easily fixed with an external monitor.
     
  40. Redline

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    Yep. Its better looking and way lighter than the G1s, and better performing than the V1s, plus way cheaper than both.
     
  41. wuzertheloser

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    that'd just be bad marketing for ASUS then, that's why i don't think they're going to use GDDR3
     
  42. Redline

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    No it wouldn't....The same was true of the A8Js, and they never saw fit to change anything. The A8Js was their best selling model, by far, but nobody really would cross shop the three. The business type people would get the V1, the gamers would get the G1, and everyone else (or those who couldn't afford the other two) got the A8Js.

    Same thing is going to happen to the F8Sv, except I think that the V2s has been brought into the mix because of its moderately powerful graphics card, so it might rob some sales from the F8. Also, the F8 is pretty heavy for a 14" notebook, which might put off some people from it.
     
  43. wuzertheloser

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    i'm not so sure it performs better than the V1s, since they both have 8600GTs, what will matter a little is the RAM the card uses.
    i'm just curious as to build quality. the A8Js weren't all that sturdy if I remember correctly....which makes me a bit doubtful about the F8sv. But I guess we'll just have to wait for the reviews.
    and the F8 is definitely heavy. 5.7 pounds....almost into the weight class of the 15" notebooks. I think the V1s weighs in at 5.9 pounds.
    i think for not so serious gamers, the V2s will do fine since it's got that business quality build and a powerful card.
     
  44. Redline

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    Well, if it has the GDDR3 VRAM, then it will perfrom better than the V1s. Even if it doesn't, it will still perform the same as the V1.

    While the A8Js wasn't exactly renowned for its build quality, the main problems with it regarding build was the paint on the lid wearing off, which shouldn't happen with this since it has the non-scratch finish like the HP Imprint.

    V1s weighs 5.9lbs without the DVD drive and a weight saver in its optical bay, whereas the F8 has the DVDRW included in the 5.7lbs figure. But yes, the F8 is still a half pound heavier than the A8Js that it is replacing.
     
  45. wuzertheloser

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    agreed that it will perform better with the GDDR3.
    My cousins A8J also had problems with its battery / overall build quality...kinda feels like really cheap plastic. hopefully the F8 will be different.
     
  46. Redline

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    Actually, it wouldn't surprise me if the build quality was similar to the new HP dv series. Thats not a bad thing at all.
     
  47. VendettA

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    As far as I know, at least the hinge on the F8 is supposed to be really good, which I'll call it a bonus over the A8 . . . .
     
  48. Redline

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    Yep. While there were not any complaints about the A8 hinge, the F8 has the best notebook hinge ever designed. It uses the same basic design as the W3's classic bamboo hinge, but it does not take up the whole backside of the notebook like the W3 hinge did.
     
  49. fabarati

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    I never understood why the W3 (and now the F8) hinge is called a Bamboo hinge. Can someone explain?
     
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    It's round like a bamboo.
     
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