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    Windows 7 GPU Overheating, please help

    Discussion in 'Asus' started by Metallic, Nov 4, 2009.

  1. Lanaya

    Lanaya Templar Assassin

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    if it is the copy of win7 that came as an upgrade to your winvista system then it is illegal to sell.
     
  2. NBRUser0159099

    NBRUser0159099 Notebook Deity

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    ...any updates on the G50 overheating problem? so its final, doesn't happen in XP, and its OS related?

    btw, element u gonna update ur sig and remove the G51 :p
     
  3. Lanaya

    Lanaya Templar Assassin

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    no I don't, am still using it til the end of the year. Then I sadly will most likely stop posting here til I go for my W860CU in April.
     
  4. NBRUser0159099

    NBRUser0159099 Notebook Deity

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    noooo, not the cheap plastic clevo lol. whatever im jking, good luck with clevo, hope u dont change minds w/ it like Joker has...numerous times...
     
  5. k0n2ad

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    Has anyone found the solution to this problem other than switching their OS?

    I am having the same exact issue with my Asus g50v

    I have a GeForce 9800M Gs, and when I upgraded my laptop to Windows 7, started experiencing a decrease in performance. Games will run smooth for a while, then the framerate will drop to unplayable levels. Using HWMonitor, I see that my GPU temp has hit 110 degrees, and is downclocking so that it doesn't explode. I checked the fan, no visible dust anywhere.

    My GPU idles at 55-60C, and when i have 2 monitors plugged in it it's usually 70-75. Then when I play a game like Arkham Asylum or even the original Far Cry, the temperature shoots up to well over 100.

    My CPU is fine, stays between 40 and 60C.

    I dropped back to the original video drivers recommended at http://support.asus.com/download/download.aspx?SLanguage=en-us

    Here are some other threads about the same issue:

    http://vip.asus.com/forum/view.aspx...546406&board_id=3&model=G50Vt&page=1&count=21

    http://social.answers.microsoft.com...g/thread/6ead5e8c-bba6-4c3c-9e22-01d70a29d979

    UPDATE: I'm going to try all the recommended drivers from ASUS for Win 7 64bit...
     
  6. zeth006

    zeth006 Traveler

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    Kinda late reply, but I solved it completely. Switched back to Vista X64, installed Nvidia 186.82 drivers, left powermizer "on."
     
  7. zeth006

    zeth006 Traveler

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    That's strange. I don't run extra monitors, but my CPU idles at 34-37 Celsius.
     
  8. kashing92

    kashing92 Notebook Consultant

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    This is a Asus with Windows 7 problem or a Windows 7 problem itself?
     
  9. Gilles.of.Augustine

    Gilles.of.Augustine Newbie

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    Has anyone tried the GeForce v195.62 WHQL Drivers in Windows 7? I've seen a lot of posts about them working in Vista, but none about W7. Those drivers are recent enough that the overheating problem may have been addressed and resolved in them.

    I'll test it out myself if if no one else has - but if somebody's already done the legwork I'd love to hear about it.
     
  10. wuyanks

    wuyanks Notebook Guru

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    i'm using 195.62 drivers in W7.... works fine, but i have gpu overheating issues (77C idle and quickly climbs to 103-104C while gaming COD4 highest resolution).

    CPU is idle in the 50s C and under full load 80C

    (G71G w/ 9800M GS)
     
  11. morcego007

    morcego007 Newbie

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    same issue here, install seven 64 get overheating, install 32 bit 20celcius less
     
  12. l3g4cy99

    l3g4cy99 Notebook Evangelist

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    sounds like its drivers then... the drivers for 32bit and 64bit are similiar. I would look into getting an optimized DOX for your card for 64bit operating System.
     
  13. aktisti

    aktisti Newbie

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    I have a best buy's G50vt-X1 for over an year.

    I was experiencing the exact same scenario as most of you. Since I installed W7 ultimate my GPU went from 50~55 idle to 70~75. From 80~85 playing to 100~105. I was reluctant about switching back to vista or xp but I had no choice.

    First Vista x64 and I got the same temperatures. Tried older drivers and nothing. Then XP x86... same thing.

    Then I've opened the back cover, vacuumed everything, blown the heatsink and voila! 50 degrees idle and 79 playing on W7 ultimate, 186.81 drivers. Weird isn't it?

    I guess this model is very sensitive to any dust covering the heatsink... that's the only explanation. There wasn't much dust there, I couldn't even see with bare eye.
     
  14. Metallic

    Metallic Notebook Evangelist

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    I don't know, I had vista installed and it overheated as well. There is something about the drivers.

    My problem is the cpu, they jump from 50~60C to 100C in a matter of seconds.

    My gpu idles around 70 when i have a 2nd tv connected.
     
  15. Metallic

    Metallic Notebook Evangelist

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    I have no clue, the only reason my laptop is not shutting down from overheating is because i have it on "Quite Office" which runs the cpus at 0.8ghz
     
  16. KaputtEqu1pment

    KaputtEqu1pment Notebook Enthusiast

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    I have the G51vx rx05, this is what i've found out.

    It seems to be driver related. Anything past 186.82, and your temps will go through the roof. I've tested this on vista 64/win7 ult 64 with drivers 186.82, 195.55/195.62. Results always came back with the Driver x > 186.82 = hotter.

    At least, that's what i've observed on my laptop.
     
  17. daryljoe

    daryljoe Newbie

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    Okay guys here is something around the same lines. I have g50vt-x1 (best buy).
    My GPU started pegging at 110c and clocking down during COD4 online.

    First I thought it was lag because my ping went way up. I would just find a corner

    and hide then after like 1 to 2 min I was going smooth again. Well I was wrong. GPU!!!

    Now here is a twist. I run Vista 64. I had major vista issue. Updates failed no updates

    for me. The Microsoft gODS (notice little g) could not figure out what it was so they

    had me do a standing upgrade. My disc was MIA so they sent me a fresh copy.

    I did install keeping all my data intact. Well I had a plethora of updates. I mean

    a lot. YAY I finally got updated. Well thats when this issue started. I plan to open

    the thing up and clean it but have not as of yet. Think its kinda funny how this all

    started with all my updates. Maybe a coincidence. I did discover one thing if I turn

    off physx I get 105 -106 in game play. Seems to keep me out of clock downville.

    Can any of you guys digest this and see if it might help someone else? Oh and if I


    clock down my GPU via riva it runs cooler still. Think I going MAC...lol Any advice would be great.

    Thanks
     
  18. Metallic

    Metallic Notebook Evangelist

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    KaputtEqu1pment, I will check what you said, I really hope this will work with me aswell.

    That's great daryljoe, maybe you can type a little BETTER, jeez what is this a zoo?

    Clearly this is a software problem, as I have said multiple times before. This problem comes from a driver from Windows 7.

    What is so weird about this is when I dual booted Vista, I started having the same overheating problem on Vista as well but not the same magnitude. Because Vista overall ran much MUCH cooler. But how can Vista be affected by windows 7?

    So i'm thinking maybe it's a bios problem?

    Update: Under latest Nvidia drivers (195.62) my gpu temp MAXES out at 92C
    However, my cpu maxes out at 110c and shuts down. But Currently I am hindering its processing power to 75% which runs around 1.8ghz
     
  19. carajean

    carajean Notebook Geek

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    I hope to find an answer to this also. For some reason with DOX new drivers and the ones off nvidia. My temps are max at 101F during gaming. They calm right down when I get out the game though. Mines idles around like 54 and same with my cpu except it maxes out at 72. I need to get these under control. Gonna get a cooler here soon though.
     
  20. daryljoe

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    Okay Cleaning done. Fan Dbs' Have gone down, but still goes up too 106 during game play. I am stuck. The sucker was very dirty.

    Wondering if my fan may be weak. Getting max 5400 rpm at heavy load. Usually more like 5200. Can anyone who is not having

    issue with their g50vt please verify rpm of fan at heavy load?

    Thanks
     
  21. Metallic

    Metallic Notebook Evangelist

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    My fan goes up to 5200 rpm, i don't think i've seen it run faster than that. But then again, my laptop has issues.

    Did you try the latest nvidia driver? I ran gpu stress and got 92C max, which is still extremely hot, but at least it's stable!

    It's my cpu thats giving me a serious headache! I need my laptop to be ready for C&C4 lol! What a lame excuse.
     
  22. daryljoe

    daryljoe Newbie

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    Well during stress test think hottest Ive seen my cpu core up to is Core1 = 69c,

    core2 = 65c and thats when my gpu hits 110c. What BIOS are you using?

    I currently have 213 installed. I have tried several drivers 178.88 to current.

    same heating issue at gpu. This is really a nightmare. I guess I can try to

    shim the sucker, but I just don't know.
     
  23. daryljoe

    daryljoe Newbie

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    Issue solved. CLEAN IT CLEAN IT CLEAN IT. Compressed air is your friend. I feel like I just won the lottery. LOL
     
  24. Metallic

    Metallic Notebook Evangelist

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    No kidding, i'll grab one now.
     
  25. daryljoe

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    two hour graphics card stress test topped 85c. from bumping 110 over and


    over. Make sure you get the fins. I even bought as5 to reseat the heat sinks


    but as soon as I used the can of air it cooled down. Didnt look that dirty but it


    worked. Next I will be redoing heat sinks. I just cant stand to see those ugly pads in there.
     
  26. Metallic

    Metallic Notebook Evangelist

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    Well this didn't work for me with the CPUs, still get 110+ then shut down. I already cleaned my laptop by opening and going with Q tips, I even had a mini vacuum-blower contraption.

    My problem seems to be bios related. I haven't updated mine, maybe it's time.
     
  27. daryljoe

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    i currently use 213 the most current BIOS. If i where you I would redo the sinks. Get rid of those pads asus used. Your gonna end up frying your CPU.
     
  28. Metallic

    Metallic Notebook Evangelist

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    i already redid the sinks, I opened it up and cleaned it out too.
    This weekend i'll update the bios
     
  29. g2scarface

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    I too have been having the same exact problem that is described in this thread. (I too am running with a G50Vt and a 9800m GS).

    I just rolled my OS back to Vista Ultimate 64-Bit from 7. I installed the latest stable drivers for my card (195.62). Problem seems to be permanently gone. One thing I noticed specifically about this was how my fan appeared to behave somewhat differently while using vista vs. 7. That is, it seems like my fan in idle actually kicked in every so often to lower the temperature of the GPU accordingly in Vista, whereas in 7, it just seemed like it was constantly on and had no effect (sounds bizarre, I know). Some food for thought.

    Oh, and I use hwmonitor to monitor my system component temps. In 7, at times I would idle at 85C, whereas now, the highest I ever idle at is 72/73C. Granted, this is still not that great, but from a functionality perspective, it gets me by just fine since the highest I ever get in game is 90C now.

    One last thing to note is that even though the main issue before was the 2 minute massive FPS drop, now I can also play games on much higher settings. For example, I have been playing the Battlefield Bad Company 2 Beta, and under 7, I had to run everything on low in order to maintain a playable FPS, and even then I would experience the 2 minute FPS hit. Under Vista, I can play on all high settings and I have no FPS lag whatsoever now at any time (and I've played for fairly extended amounts of time).
     
  30. Duct Tape Dude

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    You're hitting a powermizer problem. If you're idling at 72/73, your GPU is not idling but on Extra clocks. Check GPU-z or a similar program to monitor clockspeed.

    The entire 19x.xx driver series did something to majorly screw up power management in Windows 7, I'm not sure about Vista though. 186.03 is the only driver that plays nice with my card.
     
  31. g2scarface

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    The GPU temperature actually varies across the board when idle under Windows Vista. Last night, it was down to 59C at one point for an extended period of time. To be honest with you, I think the reason the GPU is idling at such a high temp under Vista is because it needs to be cleaned out and maybe have the heatsink checked, aka, purely hardware related (in my specific case).

    I'm also in somewhat of a bind too since there is a significant graphics issue that arises in BFBC2 unless you have the very latest NVIDIA drivers for the 9800m. So I have to make a compromise at this point in using the latest NVIDIA drivers such that I can actually play the game at all. I agree, though, that this could be and probably is a driver issue.
     
  32. Duct Tape Dude

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    Again, watch your clocks. When it goes down to 59 the card is finally idling, but the newest drivers make it clock up as soon as anything requiring the GPU happens(ie: scrolling down a webpage or closing a window). I monitored my forceware clocks for a few hours with a half dozen drivers each and most of them did this. Perhaps you have dust buildup, I just cleaned my computer out yesterday for the first time in 8 months and it really helped! lol

    I do miss some features from the newer drivers, too like OpenCL and some CUDA improvements. Compromise never turns out perfectly :(
     
  33. dorekofu_87

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    Hi metallic,last year. I got the same problem like you. My 9700m gt got 110C whenever I played game. At first, I thought that my vga want to retire , someone told me that the temperature sensor on card has been broken. However, I figured out that the problem caused by dust. Check this picture:

    [​IMG]

    When I opened my laptop, everything was clean. But when I tried to remove the fan from the heat sink block I saw those dust blocked the air vent. I didn't use compress air, I just cleaned with brush and humid cloth. I hope it will help.
     
  34. Duct Tape Dude

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    Pffft. I'm sure that didn't do anything.

    /s


    Nice buildup! lol
     
  35. findox

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    Read through this thread after having the overheating gpu causing lag on my g50v in win7. I did not have lag for the 8 months or so I used the win7 release candidate, but time ran out and decided to stick with win7. Been trying to fix this for about a week. Tried everything I could think of in win 7 with no dice. So, I went back to vista 64 to see if the lag and overheating would go away. I can confirm that it does. Played mass effect 2 for two hours today without a problem, and my gpu temp reaching 85ish degrees. Sucks that I wasted money on win7 ultimate, but at least now I can actually play games again. Hopefully this problem will get fixed at some point.
     
  36. deathmak

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    same problem here too.. was expecting/hoping it to be driver issues on win7 even tho have been doubting win7 since long but was not really sure how that could be the problem.

    But since its working for some ppl i think i will give it a shot too after exams..

    On a side note, i tried to see wat happens in splashtop.. fan seems to be kicking in (and stayin on)there too, dunno why, although at a lower speed.

    My cpu is idling at 44 but gpu is hitting 80s and low 90s at default clock speeds of gpu.. used rivatuner to drop em down for a bit and they came down to arnd 78-81C.
    Problem is that i switched to 186.03 from 197.16 drivers and now RT is not able to underclock the card. So again back at 90s at idling

    EDIT: is there a way to install vista after 7 (dual boot)?

    EDIT 2: it is underclocking it seems.. idled at ~70 through the nite..
     
  37. deathmak

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    @metallic: any permanent fix found? this threads pretty old.. hoping a solution has been found?
     
  38. bianco

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    hi... ive readed all, my numbers in cpuid are:
    core0: 53
    core1: 54
    gpu: 59
    totally idle, just firefox and msn, i have win 7 and tomorrow im switchin to vista x64, i cant play left4dead2, i have lag problems, when i play any 3d game, my gpu reach 107 degrees... cores go like 60... tomrrow im sending more data...
     
  39. SoundOf1HandClapping

    SoundOf1HandClapping Was once a Forge

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    Yeah, something's not right. My CPU doesn't usually hit those temperatures even after playing a couple hours of Left 4 Dead 2.
     
  40. Talon

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    I also seemed to suffer from a temp rise after changing my G51 from vista 64 to win7 64. I've been able to get it to reasonable temps compared to what other G51 users report.

    Right now, just firefox open with an upgraded CPU to T9900

    CPU - 38C
    GPU - 50C

    Running BFBC2 with CPU OC to 3.45
    CPU - 69-75C depending on day I guess
    GPU - 83-94C again depending on day and graphics settings I use


    I find those temps to be reasonable, especially with my large CPU overclock.
     
  41. bianco

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    !! guys, vista64 its the same... even more temp in core0 and 1, im still havin those fps lag, idk if its my driver or what... tomorrow im cleanin my laptop with a huge can of air... ive reached 108 degrees on gpu, my better was 107 on 7x64... is going on?
     
  42. bianco

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    ok, now, ive cleaned my laptop and the temp reach 101 degrees... still high rite? any suggestions?
     
  43. Duct Tape Dude

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    Wow that is a bit high... Do you have a cooler for it?
     
  44. bianco

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    yea... the sad thing is i have a cooler down the laptop. 3 mini fans... im starting to think that the trouble is from the gpu, not the SO. im gonna try to update my gpu driver to the latest... thanks, keep posting...
     
  45. bianco

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    is there a way to overclock the fan? i mean, i think that can solve this fail issue...
     
  46. VZX

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    If you have fan sensor for your GPU, maybe you can do it with Riva Tuner. Otherwise, you gotta find a driver which utilize your GPU less.
     
  47. Duct Tape Dude

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    No, you can't "overclock" the fan. The controller is in the motherboard and automatically adjusts itself to CPU and GPU temperature. You'd have to modify hardware to do anything, and overvolting a fan could damage it, as they're usually specced to run at a specific speed.

    At this point, I will refer you to this thread involving hardware techniques to cool your GPU. You're best off reading/searching through the whole thing before asking questions, I know it's long, but Forge, Soviet, and all of them have answered a lot of questions already.
     
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