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    You've got to be kidding me.... W3 / W1 Rebates....... I'm serious....

    Discussion in 'Asus' started by PROPortable, Jul 1, 2005.

  1. PROPortable

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    Hey Everyone... I'm stunned....

    I don't know why this was never mentioned to us, but don't worry... it wasn't mentioned to anyone until I asked..... It was put in July's issue of Mobile magazine which has been out for a week or so....... so anyone who even know about it (dealers included)...... saw it posted there.. This is mainly a promo they wanted to run in the magazine, but when I asked they said it could be posted online.

    Anyway, here are the details:
    Buy a W3 or W1 between July 1st and the 15th and get a nice rebate.

    W3: $200
    W1 w/ COMBO Drive Only: $300

    (By the way...... if you buy the W1 w/ combo drive and wanted an pioneer 8x dual layer dvd burner.... We've got a hand full of them in parts for $200.)... still would make it cheaper than the DVD Burner model, plus you'd have an extra notebook combo drive...

    Link:
    http://usa.asus.com/mobilemag/

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  2. Underpantman

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    I guess I'll do what everyone else is probably thinking....how much for that new W5 attachment??? It looks very useful !
    lol
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  3. wellVersed

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    BUT SHE'S HOLDING A W5!!!!!!!!!!! WHY THAT MAKES NO SENSE!!!! WHERE'S THE W5 REBATE... justin you got the hook ups.... i know they're out there!
     
  4. PROPortable

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    This doesn't make sense at all........ OK, like I said last night, I could *see* the W1 w/ combo drive rebate, I guess........ but the W3 is still in short supply, it's the hottest new laptop........ and magazine reviews about it are just about to start rolling out..... That doesn't make any sense, but it's not money out of our pocket. Some times Asus likes to create rebates which are "instant" and that punishes any of us who tries to stock up at the begining of the month...... so then they already made their money on us, but now we have to drop the price...... So, since this is a mail-in..... I'm not going to complain about it........ Personally I think it's insane to have that rebate on the W3, but more power to anyone who can take advantage of it.

    Now.. to the question of why a woman needs to be taking up the majority of that ad and why is she holding a W5 for that matter....... well I remember her in this position in some of the official ad making kit that Asus Taiwan came up with (like I said, I've got that picture with no background in like a 700mb file) ...... But ... no rebate on the W5..... I know why they used it.... because the only pictures with her in it were of her holding the W5 and I guess they wanted to use her to draw attention to the ad. Something I'm sure will work well. But as far as a rebate on the W5, I don't see one.
     
  5. smilepak

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    wow! She's Hot!
     
  6. coriolis

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    From this months issue of Mobile Magazine :D


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  7. yassarian

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    How much for the girl again???

    oh wait... they are selling what... "laptops"? :rolleyes:

    blah nvmd

    cheers,

    yass
     
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    Where is the claim form? Also customers should ask if 3rd year warranty can be paired with this rebate. Offer does state "cannot be combined" with other promos. Justin you got work to do :)
     
  9. dlogic

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    I'll take the girl !! screw the laptop....Do she come in a bubble wrap as well ? :D
     
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    Saw this yesterday on EBAY and thought it didn't make sense but glad to see it confirmed on the forum today. Wasn't willing to pay the full price for W3 but now it is in my zone.
     
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    Darn.. offer not valid in Canada.
     
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    wow i was going to wait to buy a laptop but i dont know anymore :asus:

    but the w3v are not configurable are they? because i was looking to get a 7200rpm HD but everywhere i look they all come with 5400 :/

    hmm i guess ill probably end up with the z70v
     
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    Does ASUS offer rebates like this often? I was think of buying the W3, but not until fall. What/when are the chances we will see this notebook at a similar price?
     
  15. PROPortable

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    The north american configuration is set and standard..... you're not going to get a 7200rpm drive in it out of the box...... but it doesn't mean you can't put one in...

    Asus doesn't do stuff like this often..... a few times a year at best..... this isn't even something that seemed to fit their usual promotion...... so you can't count on anything.
     
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    At first I was considering the W3v, but lately I have been leaning hard towards the W5a, partly because the price was more in range and partly because I have changed my wants to highlight portability more. But this is kind of hard to ignore. Man if you could get that aluminum case too, that would be a show stopper of a deal. I wish ASUS would show the W5a some rebate lovin'.
     
  17. Bootstrap

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    I don't suppose Asus ever offers rebates on their "built on" customizable line, do they?
     
  18. PROPortable

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    It's not Asus' job to discount them........ If I have to say it again, I will..... Asus sells us the parts....... just like Alienware builds their desktops with Asus motherboards and graphics cards...... it's not Asus' system..... it's Alienware..... Don't mean to sound harsh, but too many people think we're working for Asus by customizing these........ when in fact it's considered the brand of the dealer.

    In regards to rebates...... I don't know what happened to the W3........ I really don't.... it's the best selling, it's still in tight supply..... and the price is already much lower than most of us (as consumers) would pay...... and it has no competition..... The W5 is a good seller as well and with the white and/or black option now... it sells even better.......

    The W1 rebate is the only thing that remotely makes sense....
     
  19. clb

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    well, for canadians out there, asus finally have a canadian site :D
     
  20. PROPortable

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    ... It's all run through the California office and it's the only one in all of north america....... site or not, it's just for show.
     
  21. clb

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    i guess...
    but i do know that there's a canadian number to call for tech support instead of the california one. And they actually got service centres in canada now, one in richmond, vancouver, bc. and the other one in toronto, i believe.
     
  22. PROPortable

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    Asus' canadian motherboard, graphics card and notebook distributor... supercom is who's handling their tech support.... supercom became the tech place for asus' notebooks when they realized it was quite pricey and involved a lot of time if notebooks had to come back to the states all the time.
     
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    My brother told me that ebay had a W3V with a rebate...I was like no way... But then i guess it's real. I'm still waiting.... :( :asus:
     
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    SuperCom eh?

    I live about 10 mins away from it, They have a huge business area which takes up one whole block :eek:

    :asus:
     
  25. PROPortable

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    Well they are THE computer distributor in Canada....... I'm sure there are others and I'm sure they have other branches... but basically every computer store and computer maker in canada will get their parts from a place like that. I know that Dell and companies like that use some of the US's main distributors to source their parts... so they do it in Canada too...... Those places should be HUGE.
     
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    I wouldn't screw the laptop...... ;)
     
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    Hahaha... That's funny.
     
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    I actually brought my W3V unit on ebay for 1799 including shipping. and the dealer is under the rebate list as well, so everything checks out. First I thought it was in some sort of scam... now everything is good. I'm glad I only paying $1599 (after rebate) for the same W3V. this is a very good timeing indeed! I hope she comes with my w3v too, I hope they do a bundle program with W3V chick as well. :eek:
     
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    Well would you mind lets us know who it is? You already got yours, but Asus does need to be notified of who this company is.
     
  31. PROPortable

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    Nevermind.... I found them and reported them myself.
     
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    What's the problem? You're saying that peddling your wares at Ebay is in breach of Asus reseller agreements or something?
     
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    No, Asus' "preferred" dealer list is a sham and Asus doesn't have any respect for themselves. They'll put anyone on their list as long as they call up and tell them they sell their notebooks. However, we at least, as a premier partner, have rules we must follow. We couldn't sell our units under what Asus sets or we won't be selling them very long. It's not illegal to sell them on ebay, but their whole "preferred dealer list" was supposed to be a list of companies who signed on to that agreement. Technically, if they sell the unit under Asus' set price, not only won't they be selling Asus' units for much longer, but any promo that they offer is null and void.

    Asus is supposed to have one guy who basically sits all day and verifies that every dealer they list on their site is presenting their products correctly. They guy hasn't done a single bit of good in the last two months and every incident that's been reported have been due to myself and Asus' other larger dealers which seem to be more on top of things than Asus is. In the end it's really only hurting them and yet they're not competent enough to stay on top of things.

    Notice that these ebay dealers don't list their company name... however they're going to have to give this customer a reciept with their real name (since their name must be listed on Asus' list) and their reciept much say sold price of $1,899.00 ...... It makes me angry that Asus will put anyone's name on their site who wants it there....... and you get these people who don't know the products and basically set up drop shipments from distributors and never physically have a product.... That is Asus' weakest link, their marketing department seems to be run by some communists who think everything must be equal.... this guy woke up this morning and decided he wanted to make a buck dropshipping asus computers online... this company has been around many years and helped Asus get where they are in the notebook world and does great number of sales, yada yada yada......... lets list them both on our site and give them exactly the same benefits. There is no other company who does anything quite like this...... this is America afterall.... lhome of the social climber and land of whoever offers more for it.........


    Lets put it this way........ ok, so in April Asus came up with this idea to change their "reward program". Basically, instead of getting something for each unit sold, they changed the reward to .. something like... sell 10 or more units and get this. Nothing more, nothing less.... nothing graduated... nada..... So basically.... by the end of the first day of the month, we're done.

    This isn't the place to rant about Asus' products, but I certainly don't mind trying to change basically what is their public policy..... but never the less I know you're been dying to hear me really bash asus in anyway... bugmenot. So there you go.

    have a good weekend.
     
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    [​IMG]

    Good rant. Can't tell if you're serious or not though, since there's quite a leap from 'Asus should know about this' to 'it's a sham, we're done'.
     
  35. PROPortable

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    No, I'm serious.... Asus has known about this stuff for a long time and I've been complaining about their marketing since before they even had a marketing team. Initially I was concerned over the legitimacy of the members order and them getting what they were promised...... then the rest just came out after you brought up the ebay thing.

    First and foremost...... until about a week to May 1st... we were told the "preferred dealers" list was going to be a handful of ... I don't know.. maybe their preferred dealers. Then we were told their marketing department felt everyone should be "equal"... so they renamed their "where to buy" list, to "preferred dealers"... a serious crock and even someone who doesn't understand knows that you can't have "preferred" dealers if you don't have regular old joe shmo dealers...... It's not a hard concept. Initially this extra year warranty was to reward "preferred" dealers for their support, sales, service... the list goes on..... instead someone thought they were in china and everyone had to be equal.

    This has and will be my gripe with them until the resolve it. I'm proud and ashamed that for the last year, the two different dealer programs Asus has implimented came from ideas I had which they thought were great. In the end though (this is why I'm ashamed) .... their programs suck and took things I suggested and twisted them around and came up with.... nothing. This latest one.... they basically renamed their dealers list (which now implies they know and trust every dealer on that list, which is false) and they ended up giving everyone who bought a computer an extra year warranty. Asus' systems didn't need more of a warranty to help sell their new units and people who just want to sell for the sake of selling are going to sell their stuff on the grey market regardless of warranty or being called a "preferred" dealer.

    I hope that makes sense....
     
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    Thanks for clearing that up. From your point of view I can certainly understand where you're coming from.
     
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    Thanks, I'm not proud of having to voice my opinion, but heck, I use this forum to get the word out about their great products, maybe if I tell explain how they treat their dealers something might actually get done about it.
     
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    That or your rep will call you curse you out in tai.... :gateway:
    As long as your fully dependant on asus products as i am our voices will go unheard. Now if you started selling something else and started giving asus a run for their money they may raise an eye brow. We use to sell more compal and clevo for about 1 month last year. After I decided to drop their product my disti called me and emailed me every other day for 2 weeks. Pretty sure this is not happening with asus. They are too big too fast but we all love their product. Just do your job and remain on top of the foodchain by knowing your stuff more then 99% of their preffered partners. Thats where i make my money. I think you do the same way. *****ing at asus on a forum they wouldnt crap on with a 6 foot stick is not going to change anything. Just pray their rma department doesnt become as forgiving as sales. If that happens i am going back to Clevo for sure. :)
     
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    Justin, to comment on your point of view here.... as end-users we don't really care who is who, or the size of the business, as long as it's a legit business, and they respect my bargain powers. The more small companies appearing, the better the pricing.... We don't want to see only few resellers on this whole block buying hotels on Boardwalk, we want to see as many businesses as possible, we want to compare prices & services, and such. Some business have to start from somewhere, I bet most business started from a single bedroom. They lower their price so they can barely make a living... I bet most little resellers on the asus notebook where to buy page are all one - two people crew. we don't care if it's few auctions on Ebay, or Starttech listings on Amazon... or even if it's a local chinese tv phoneorder (ETTV) as long I get that notebook I like for the lowest price. We want to pay for the lowest price as possible. (and at this point, service is not an issue, because our notebooks is covered by asus warranty already, so there's nothing that resellers can do. If my W3V breaks down, I don't think any of my resellers is going to come to my house and fix it... I still have to send it to asus by myself, am I right? And as for drop ship issue, don't you think most resellers do drop ship anyways, nobody's business is that big to to able to have their own million-dollar stealthfighter hanger warehouse... or the manpower maintain their inventory, cameras & security systems. So the only customers advantages is what? To find the lowest price possible. The bottom line, is to save money. and with google and pricegrabber these days, it made a lot easiler. More bussiness is good, it does not ruin any images of asus company, it can only bring out their quality product into the market, expose them to more people and make end users like us feel comfortable with the pricing. I've been using asus motherboard since when I was a freshmen in college. and now I'm almost 28 years old and still a faithful asus user. Please correct me on this topic if I'm wrong. :asus:

    - My 2 cents.
     
  40. PROPortable

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    By the way, this is not directed at just you.. because I understand what you're saying.... it's more directed at those who don't understand anything but *cheap*.... It's not like we haven't heard somthing like this before, so it's a general statement.

    That's great for you. We've established a business dedicated to Asus's systems and people like you can feel free to use us for information and save a few bucks buying from some "legit" business on ebay. Other people realize how hard good service is to come by and like to reward that. That's the entire purpose of Asus actually setting up different levels of dealers/builders at which you get a different level of something... whether it's warranty, or whatever.

    Car audio dealers have been doing this for years..... buy from an authorized dealer and get your warranty......... buy from someone else and you get no warranty and be called "grey market" ........ you could be getting something brand new, but you could be getting something someone else used...... but you could get a very good price. Service cost's money and if someone wants to keep people knowing their products and keeping them on hand.... there must be an incentive.

    With regards to drop shipping..... that's great, it really is. You'd be hard pressed to find people who actually stock the products we do and have them available to ship as fast as we do. By knowing and being around these products for as long as we are, there are things we can answer that no one else can. When you drop ship and never see an item, you are counting on atleast one or two different places to make good on your word of when an item would ship. We're not into that, if we say it'll ship in an hour, it's because we know it will and we'll make it happen. At the same time, most of these people aren't going to support you. You may not care, but those places could be gone tomorrow and come back up as someone else.... it's not an establishment. From what I've see, even the majority of Asus' so-called " preferred dealers" just copy whatever asus has on their website and don't bother to verify it. Considering someone is buying based on what these people show on their site, it's their end that's responsible for knowing what they are putting in their machine.. I think it's fine for everyone and their brother to sell something, but if you want cheap, you can go to these places and take your chances. Asus will have to change the way they protect the people who actually their their notebooks out there and make people aware of them to the point where they are purchasing them.

    By the way, which L5 do you have? They came with THE prototype glaretype screen that Asus and Fujitsu developed..... it's called an ACE view, and that's even better than the new color shine screens, as that has basically 180 degree viewing angles horizontally and vertically......... By the way, a "crystal shine" screen is technically Asus' high brightness matte type displays like that is in the V6v...... the L5 never came with anything but the very best.
     
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    Yes, I agree with some of the points that you made on some of these so called bedroom resellers. But I can also see where asus is coming from, they probably are very disperate of getting into the notebook market share. And trust me, large manufacture like that will do ANYTHING to get there. That includes lowering their standards and having all sorts of retailers (big to small, to tiny) to push out their products. Maybe in a few years later when asus stablish themselves in the US market, then, they won't have to do stuff like that anymore, and by then I'm sure their standards for resellers will raise as well.

    Thank you for correctly me on the L5, I really like mine, I got it from taiwan before they discontinued. Let me tell u, the screen is one of the best looking screen I've seen so far.... viewing photos I took from wake Island almost seem like you are there. The colors are very accurate... I love my L5. By the way, I have a friend who just brought a Asus W2, he's currently working as a business consultant back in taiwan. he's visiting me end of this month in austin, maybe I can take couple of photos and do a review.
     
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    No, no kidding....... Their tone changed from when we first starting importing their notebooks.... more the *oh thank you* sort of .... *what can we do for you* sort of thing....... I can't fault them for trying to get as many systems sold as possible.... but I do fault them because they should set up different levels of dealers........ It's easier to get on Asus' "preferred dealer list" than probably any other company in the world..... basically, I think what I read was.... you don't even have to buy a unit to get on their page, which is pretty crappy. I mean people sell things every day without being on the manufacturers website..... There is a reason when their initial dealers like ourselves got them noticed, that they started going to the big distribution houses so they could unload a huge order on them, and then let the disty worry about getting rid of them........ sell to whoever you want, whatever.... I understand that. But their products sell themselves and it's not about this promo or that promo that really helps..... it's knowledgable people who know the product better than the people at Asus.......... I'm just saying if they don't understand that, they're going to have problems.

    Do you have the XGA or SXGA or SXGA+ model? Only 100 SXGA+ models came into this hemisphere and it honestly is better than the 19" CRT sony pro flat screen that I had...... I'd say the color was better and the viewing angles were at least the same if not better........ it was an amazing screen... the only problem is that screen is still like double the cost of say... the screen that's in the V6....... which is a good matte type display, but it's expensive as it is because the lcd is super thin....... so we can only hope that the ACE view technology comes back and gets cheaper....
     
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    I heard from a customer that our stock of W3's shows "back order" on our site. We're expected a large shipment on Wednesday. We weren't expecting to go through the remainder of what we had in stock as quickly as we did.. As soon as we got confirmation of this $200 rebate, we made sure our next shipment was larger than usual, but from what I gather, if the stock we had on Friday is actually gone, I'd suggest anyone who wants in on that rebate put in a back order as our site allows backorders for only up to the amount of stock we're receiving in our next shipment.... It's my guess that that shipment might be gone before they come in and we won't be able to order more until we get in on Tuesday.

    Just keeping you up to date as everyone seems to be sending me emails about this.... and I take it most of you are in this forum....
     
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    Geared2play.com Company Representative

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    You are actually wrong. Almost a year an a half ago we finally made the asus wtb page. I had to correct the site in many places before they put it up. They do check how much you buy and how you sell it. I dont know about now but it wasnt easy to get to their wtb page over a year ago.
     
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    The chicks hotter then the laptops ;)

    Iwant the chick :p
     
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    E,

    I don't know what the process was before.... we never went through anything, but we were with them before they even listed notebooks on their US site.... so that wasn't hard to see coming.........

    Of late though, all the marketing has gone over to a dedicated person or group of people and it's pathetically easy to get on that list now..... I'm not saying they're going to stay on that list, but just go through all the sites and look at them....... some don't even have the notebooks listed yet....... some have wrong information, some look like they mistakenly named the notebooks........ But lets not get into it too much, both of us know that atleast half of the companies on that list have never even seem an ensemble notebook, let alone sold one.
     
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    I agree Justin, the PPP program is not effective, at least not now.... But it will be viewed as an experimentation... I think many of those semi-resellers are going to get removed or caned. They get paid 500 dollars per month from asus... for 3 months (1500), all they had to do is to setup a little pseudo-e-commerice site. and buy at least ONE unit from dist. If they sell 10 units, they get 1,000 dollars bonus. That's it. Anybody can do this, even us end-users can become resellers of tomorrow. Take a look at coderedpc, they dont' even have a phone number to call. and Antares, they only sell 4 notebooks. Clearly they are in for the free bonus. When this program ends in July 31st. The PPP WTB page will be reviewed based on how many units these resellers sells. Those with high performance are going to get on the real wtb, and those who don't show any sales are going to be dumped! I still suspect someone in the dist knows someone and leak this information out. So someone out there can get that $500 per month bonus. Are you getting where I'm trying to say here? :eek:
     
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    From my count this morning, there are only 8 W3's left from tomorrow's shipment.
     
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    I hope you meant those semi-resellers are going to get removed or canned. I know caning still exists in parts of Asia but I didn't know Asus brought it over here.

    Concerned user
     
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    Haha... I don't know about that.
     
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