g1s new bios but does not solve cpu problem

So basically, Asus totally screwed us with this fabricated "bug?"

 

i do not think so ! it's just a acpi bios bug. the core 2 duo mobile fsb 800, has two dynamic features. The fsb goes from 100 till 200 and multiplier from 6x till 11x ( or 12x)

""Intel® Dynamic Acceleration Technology
The processor will support Intel Dynamic Acceleration Technology mode on select platforms. The Intel Dynamic Acceleration Technology mode feature allows one core of the processor to temporarily operate at a higher frequency point when the other core is inactive and the operating system requests increased performance. This higher frequency is called the opportunistic frequency and the maximum rated operating frequency is the guaranteed frequency.""

When charging the battery the fsb do jumps from 100 till 200 but multiplier only from 8x fsb 100 till 6x fsb 200 and not 11x fsb 200 ! this is the only problem

 

Adolfo
I am not going to argue with you. You may be right somewhere. Take myword for it. g2s comes withg 120w adapter and it NEEEDS 120w. using g1s 90w on it overheats the g2s. I am going to have to stick to my original statement saying the g1s needs a 120w adapter as well. 90w is barely enough and i belive asus knows it.
it has nothing to do with any flaws. Like i said before. I belive this was done on purpose becuase the 90w adapter overheats given certain conditions that occur while the battery is charging. this is exactly why g2s got a 120w adapter. If you use the same 90w adapter on the g2s it overheats and shuts down. i seriously dobt the larger screen on the g2s has much higher power requirements then the screen on the g1s. I can not help you guy sany further as any further testing is outside my means. My results above are firm. I have some doubts that asus will change the bios here but i admit i can be wrong.

 

It has nothing to do with how the process works. if the g2s shipped with a 90watt adapter it would have to have the same bug in it to prevent the 90w adapter from overheating. g1s and g2s have almost identical power requirements. why does the g2s ship with 120w and no problems while the g1s ship with 90w and has this issue.
on a side note. to the poster above who had loaded a g2s bios on their g1s. if you can do that again then run a few loops of 3dmark while the battery is charging you should see that the ac adapter overheats shuts down then the battery gets drained. this is exactly what i found testing the g2s with a 90w adapter. i am pretty sure the same applies to the g1s this is why i believe asus purposely made the bios this way. maybee i am wrong

 

really dissapointed in the asus g1s now, once the battery goes below 90% everyones saying it basicly turns to a 1 core processor of 2.2 . Thats if it drops to 50%, i dont see why asus would do this, even if it was for heat issues.

 

I guess we'll have to take this business up to asus -- pronto.

 

I don't suppose this will help, since this is clearly a bios issue, but would someone try charging the g1s with a 120 watt adapter and see if the issue persists? maybe the bios has a setting that detects when it has extra power to use.

 

this is what i'm trying to tell you from the beginning, I lost keyboard but i used windows virtual keyboard. the battery was really low, about 10%. I putted 3dmark in loop and went to work. when i came 3dmark was running and battery charged. this is what i tried to say in the first place

 

you would have to run aq few loops of 3dmark, full brightness, battery much below 90%, all lights on. On g2s with 90w adapter it overheated the adapter. I assume the same for g1s
actually my mistake. it shutdown on me during windows installation. It may have done the same during 3dmark. This is when i realized tp look in the box at the ac adapter
in any case, if it worked for you maybee i was wrong but it still seems to me that this was done on purpose

 

Ok I just wen't to a local store and the g2s ac-adapter is indeed 120W. I saw it. The asus product page is wrong so sorry about that. Tonight i'll do the test again. Battery below 10%, g2s bios and 3dmark looping. i'll test it for 1 hour with full brightness . It should be enough.

 

I dont see how Asus can do this, it says it comes with a 2.2 intel core 2 duo, and once it hits 90% the processor only runs at 50%! Why wouldnt they say this anywhere, once the battery is lower then 90% my computer is gonna be as good as something i could of got for 1,000 dollars unless im reading this wrong. the processor at 50%, i wont be able to do my video editing now.

 

No, when using battery the laptop works fine, ONLY when CHARGING the battery the cpu works at maximum 1.2ghz. Only when the battery is charged above 90% the cpu will go till 2.2. So if you use all of the battery and want to do something heavy you will have to wait until de battery charges above 90%.

This hurts...

 

can u run a laptop with the battery out? i never had one before so i wouldnt know. Like jsut have it plugged into the wall? does that run at 100%

because im going to be getting a notebook cooler aswell for when im gaming, still deciding on antec or zalman. So that will help if i have it directly plugged into the wall, if you can do that without the battery. If not i guess ill have to find some sort of battery charger so i can have 2 batterys charged up for when im video editing.

 

How about testing the option JackTheGrow mentions?

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And something else:

Huh? When it is charged above 90% the CPU will go till 2.2. and then you will have to wait until de battery is charged above 90% but is is allready above 90%? Is that a typo or am I missing the point?

 

Im guessing when the battery is fully charged, and you unplug it, the laptop runs at 100% until the battery dies. Once it dies, and you have to CHARGE the laptop, you must wait till it reachs 90% for it to run at full performance.


P.S. Does anyone know of some sort of battery charger that will work for the asus g1s battery? i bought an extra one, and i would like to have them both charging at the same time.

 

Bingo, thats it ! And it sucks

 

eddie: Is it possible that the g1s bios is able to detect how much power it's getting; thus, if it's not getting enough power it limits cpu use? If so, can you see if the 120w g2s power supply is compatible with the g1s and run a 3dmark loop with the battery lower than 90% to see if the problem persists? you may be the only one with access to a 120w power supply that fits the g1s as of this moment.

 

yeah, that's the only thing i didn't do, but it seams bios related because the g2s bios does not have the problem

 

My battery is in the fridge.

 

LOL good old days when you putted the nicd batteries on the fridge to revive them a litle more. The lithium batteries do not need the fridge.

Let's try to stay on-topic

 

Is this problem affecting Asus G1 as well? or is it just affecting Asus G1S?
Thank u

 

only the g1s

 

But what if the g1s bios is able to detect how much power it's getting like JacktheCrow mentioned? Might be an interesting test.

 

of course it would be an excellent test. Let's see if someone can do it

 

I am thinking about trying the g2s bios 205 on my g1s to see if it also fixes the 4 gb ram problem. You wrote that it works - only the keyboard would be disabled. What kind of tool did you use? Winflash?

Thanks!

 

you can use asus winflash and then via start - run -..... winplash /force and select g2s bios and just WAIT ! let it restart and wait

 

Good news everybody.


I've run orthos and 3dmark at the same time nonstop for 1hour and the ac adapter never got hot than before/normal ! so the problem is really bios related and not ac-adapter ! of course full brightness

The battery after 1 hour of torture was at 34%. I had my wireless modem and my 2.5 external hdd pluged in to drain more power.

Eddie, please , if you can, talk to asus about this. Is a bug on the bios

thank you

 

I'm not sure if this is really good news...since asus seems to be on the slow side on fixing these damn bios bugs. I was half wishing it was the adapter so I could just buy a new 120w and not have to worry about it.

 

I hear you but i have hope that the next revision will put a smile on everybody face !

Mail asus, or call then to make some pressure !!

 

I have been talking with Asus tech support about this and they claim that the problem shouldn't be occurring. They told me to RMA my laptop for replacement/repair. Somehow I don't think that will solve the problem, so the struggle continues...

 

don't send the laptop for rma, it's not your laptop problem !! They told me the same 1 mounth ago. It's their problem, they have to fix the bios..

We have to wait for the next bios release! I only hope they get the problem fixed.

 

I just purchased the G1s and I am having the same problem. I do have a iGo AC Power Adapter. Its max output is 6.5A (100W). I could test to see if this solves the problem.

Tell me what kind of tests you want me to run and I'll perform them.

Frank aka Twinkiez

 

thank you but the ac adapter is not the problem, but you may test if you want. Simple, do a superpi 1M while charging the battery bellow 90%, like 50% and see if the result is more or less 22s.

 

adolfo,

I had the same exact problem on a different notebook. I decided to buy a w2pb 17" widescreen notebook instead of the g1s because I don't game a lot and didn't want to buy a gen 1 SR platform. For those who aren't fimiliar with the w2pb its a 17" sxga+, tv tuner, atiX1700, dual core merom 2ghz.

I do play 1 game lately and when I fired it up I was dissapointed to see 10fps. I also use a HP NW8440 with an ATI FireGL 5200 card in it which can get me decent fps. So I figured that an ati x1700 card which is a hair better than the 5200 should be ok for my needs. The HP seemed so much faster and I was getting more and more dissapointed with my purchase.

I updated to the latest bios and the problem went away. This laptop also came with a 90w adapter. It's pretty hot right now.

Good luck getting ASUS to fix the problem. It should just be a fix in the bios.

 

if i wait for the new bios do i have to update the last one which fixs the media button first then the new one if one comes out? because i dont know how so i only want to do it when the better bios comes out, not everytime a new one comes out

 

As a general rule of thumb, you only want to update your bios if you have a specific problem it addresses.

I had a an old compal (first gen that came with an nvidia onboard) and low and behold I updated to a new bios that gave me trouble and at the time there was no way to roll back, or reset the bios back to its shipping version.

In your case you only need to install the latest bios that fixes your problem. That should include all previous fixes from earlier bios updates.

 

No with a bios update you don't have to do it in steps, you can go from 1 to 10 without doing 2-9. It does this because it completely deletes the old bios and writes over it with the new one.

 

Thank you thank you so much

 

Can you confirm this adolforegosa and if so, which version of the Bios is this?

Tia

 

sorry, but the bios was for his HP. For the g1s we have to wait

 

Bah

Hopefully we wont have to wait too long - I was testing today and having my notebook at 50% performance while the battery recharges is NOT amusing.

 

Ok, why is this... G1S BIOS is 203 according to ASUS' download site. G2S has BIOSes labeled as 204, 205, and 207 for download. Where is 206? Well that we can find on V1S downloads. Anyone tried mix-breeding any of them into another model?

(Sorry if this sounds like a long shot and has been tried and/or posted somewhere earlier)

 

i read a thread of someone doing it, i believe andolf? he took a G2S bios and put it on the G1S it corrected the problem, but the keyboard did not work at all.

I guess we can just wait, which is fine just keep it above 90% if you want to play games

 

I quit.. it's a feature
ftp://dlsvr02.asus.com/pub/asus/nb/g1/G1SAS204.zip

I'm really really sad about it

 

The bios update was for my W2PB. The HP hasn't prompted me to update it.

 

BTW, if anyone did not get it, the link that adolfotregosa posted is to the new 204 BIOS for the G1S.

GET IT HERE: ftp://dlsvr02.asus.com/pub/asus/nb/g1/G1SAS204.zip

(Asus has not gotten around to posting it on there support site, this is always the case, they always have a 2 day period from when they put it on this FTP site to when they post it on there front-end support page).

I installed it but I cannot test it as I am leaving on a trip today.

 

I just tested it. The problem is still there, just the same as before. Well... hopefully it will be fixed in BIOS 205......

 

or not this is what i'm afraid

 

Well what does 204 fix then?

 

Good news folks! I just got off the phone with Ken from GenTech about this supposed BIOS issue. He told me that he had talked with Asus last night and that the issue we are having with the CPU is a known BIOS problem that Asus is currently working on fixing, hopefully within a week or so. Yay!!!!