[NEWS] Studio XPS 15 and XPS 17 !!

I - am - disappointed. I really hope to see the full specs soon so that I can REQUEST the DELL India to gimme a refurb 1645 with the HD 5730 ASAP...

It feels I was made to wait for something which is a step-down, at least in design and starting specs...

This day will go down in history as the day Dell died...

 

I wouldn't know about Studio XPS 16 sound quality/loudness, but I know XPS M1330 sucked...

AND I do know JBL + WavesMaxx Sucks... and if claims of Studio XPS 16's speakers being "better than the average laptop of its class" are true, then XPS 15's will be worse. The JBL thing is not new, I had it on a laptop 1 year ago and it was terribly soft - like a little bit better/louder than XPS M1330.

And yeah they have backlit keys.

I will have no choice but to buy warranty cos I really want a laptop, I have no option of a proper Asus/Sager/Clevo in my country (soomething along the same specs), and Toshibas and Sonys are just overpriced. I won't get a Lenovo or Acer, Asus is overpriced in my country, MSIs are ugly, no high spec Samsung or Fujitsu, HP overpriced too. Don't like Mac.

 

The full specs are out, check the websites.

I suggest you get Studio XPS 16 since there's not much of a chance of them getting you an XPS 17 with 1600x900 + 3GB GT445M.

 

WOW, what a ugly piece of hardware!!! Total Fail!

 

here is the link from DELL france.check it out...

to me>>>it LOOKS LIKE MIXTURE OF HP DV6 select edition AND LENEVO IDEAPAD Y560.
the body is similar to HP DV6 select edition if you compare the colour and style of LCD portion and the keyboard,speakers and screen looks like Lenevo ideapad Y560.
LINK:-

http://www1.euro.dell.com/fr/fr/domicile/Portables/xps-15/pd.aspx?refid=xps-15&s=dhs&cs=frdhs1

 

Its not bad, Full HD display, GF435M with 2Gb, it has media buttons, backlit keyboard...its probably the best 15" multimedia machine out there currently...but its no gaming rig, XPS (apart from the 1730) never were.

 

I don't know why so many of you are disappointed. I think the design looks better than HP Envy. The Envy is a mac rip off with ugly patterns on it's palm rest and lid. Both are just plain jane square boxes, what's so nice about that? I think Dell took a design cue from Asus when making these since the back portion looks very similar to the G73 series but the "butt" isn't as big as the Asus laptops. While these may not be as attractive as the SXPS 16, they still look better than most laptops. The high end vaio's look nice but they also cost a ton of money--almost in Alienware territory where they are handily beaten.

The fact that Dell is pushing up to 150W PSU's to cover power issues is a good sign. It means they at least learned something from their past mistakes.

Give these new systems a chance, see how they turn out. If any of you hoped these would be powered by similar GPU's as Alienware, then you were mislead. Alienware will always be Dell's gaming line of computers. These are a nice option for those that want to casually game while having a very solidly built notebook.

 

Yeah but the common point is XPS 14/15 could not match performance of Studio XPS 16, at least on paper.

For me, aesthetically, the aluminium parts are nice. They could have done more with the touch keys though.

JBL is the worst sound system - buy an Ideapad Y and find out. They have some sort of program on the Lenovo which deepens and clarifies the base sound (making it at least usable) but it was still soft. Without that enhancement, forget speakers. Had to rely on earphones.

 

By the way Lenovo is crap, at least their Ideapad series, they have the worst displays and the worst build quality you can find...its no miracle that they are about 20% cheaper than Acer, which is also not the pinnacle of build quality.

Dell, at least the XPS series was always better and much sturdier, so the speakers might not be bad because of JBL but because Lenovo uses the worst quality.

 

Can somebody verify what all DELL country sites are listing the new 15" and 17" XPS? I am not able to find any data on the 17"... Help please!

 

I don't think its listed, currently only the 15 seems to be on the sites.

 

check my post on page 51.i had provided link to dell france for XPS 15.XPS 17 is not officially launched.

 

Any English sites with the XPSs?

The "Studio Design" add-on in Dell France's XPS 15 would not load. Perhaps it's my poor internet.

 

nope... won't load on Dell Switzerland either.

 

I am taking help of google translate to view the french dell site, but it loses translation on the customize page,,,

The highest graphics this XPS 15" goes to is with 435M GT 2. This might as well be a repetitive question but how does this stack up to the HD 5730?

 

dell is so clueless about design aesthetics. they know that aluminum lappies are very 'in' right now. so do they make an aluminum casing? no. they simply take some aluminum and put it on top of the plastic in some random places so you still have the plastic feeling.

 

The new XPS line have a magnesium chasis with aluminum panels. The only plastic part is the bezel and bottom portion of the notebook.

 

I'm not really digging the new design. The 2 colors thing is tacky (but there will be other choices, I guess full black would be ok) but the laptop itself looks chunky, I have a hard time believing they couldn't pull something with more guts on the GPU side. It better pack a neat screen and good speakers or it's just a crappy Inspiron / studio with aluminium parts (I'm suspicious every time a laptop brand makes a noise with so-called "xxx brand speakers" and it turns out it has an average crappy sound).

 

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xps 17 dutch, 3GB graphics, no 1080p screen....

anyone got reviews of the, of a diferent, "B+RG" screen?

 

Even I was searching for something close to what we had in XPS 16.
Such a big let down. Uggh!

 

Can't see it posted, but here is the xps 15 on the UK site:

Dell XPS 15 Laptop Details | Dell UK

 

On U.S. site 17inch and 15 inch xps's

 

14inch xps up now

 

Anyone here remembers the 5 years old generation of D series Latitude laptops, with metal alloy bodies (or plastic)? The ones that still many people have today. Its gray/beige parts blacken/darken with time, and I assume this is due to heat. I am concerned because the new XPS resembles that.

The more recent XPS M1330/M1530 were silver and mine was not used for gaming/had no heat issues so it did not "darken".

 

Something I am concerned about - as seen on the Dell UK and Dell France sites, the i5 config does not allow GT 435M 2GB. Why the hell is this?

 

It did not darken from the heat...it did from the moist of the palm and the wear...had a d610, and the only part darker is a small part on the palmrest...oh and by the way those were 100% plastic, with a steel?? frame inside, this stuff is about 50% alu outside with probably a steel/alu or magnesium frame inside, so the construction can be best compared to the 1530.

 

Could someone please explain the logic of including a 1080p screen for the 15 inch and not for the 17. Also the 17 is FAR more expensive relative to it "extra" features. Neither seem like a large bump form the SXPS16.

I ask the 1 question that really matters, how does the GT435M and GT445M compare to the 4670 and 5730?

 

Dell.de does let you, but only with a quad core. Its either deliberately so, or they just messed up the site...I suppose you should call them and ask, or have a look at the service manual.

 

Same goes for the USA site. What the hell? 435 does support optimus and dual cores :S

 

No, I checked, USA some configs allow standard config + dual core + GT 435M. Only France/UK were different. My country's is not out yet.

Can anyone tell me if WiMax is worth getting? Don't know about the current tech/availability. What about the differences between Wireless N 1000, Advanced N 6200, and Ultimate N 6300?

What are the highest speeds of wireless internet currently available anywhere in Mbps?

 

why is the rgb screen a £170 upgrade in the UK yet a $140 on the US site. Why do we always get shafted in europe

 

no it wont let you buy it. If you select the 435 and dual core it will give you an error if you try and order it. There is also a note on the left of the screen when the 435m is selected that says i7 only

 

Are those really "Studio XPS" line?! They look awful compared to Studio XPS 16&13... Dissapointing

 

Oh ok I did not see the "i7 only" message. That is pretty Focked up if you ask me.

I certainly don't want an i7.

Also, standard parts of laptops even from years back, i.e. Bluetooth, are now "optional"?!

You can see Dell has not been generous with options, they are getting ready for the AMD or GT500s and Sandy Bridge updates.

 

Ok so how long do you think it will be before dell adds a 1080p option for the 17inch. This by far is the most disappointing spec to me. 17 inches and only 900p??? doesnt make sense at all.

 

OK I saw the message. Hardware experts please enlighten us. It claims i5 is not compatible with GT 435M 2GB? Really?

 

i had a 1080 on my 1645 (which i returned)... What we are getting is an inferior system.. It looks like a vostro for God sakes... and i sincerely doubt, seeing the thickness quotient that this screen would be able to hold water in front of the XPS 16 series screen...

The screen alone was worth the love @ first sight....sigh!

If only you hadn't throttled like sh** my love!

 

Oh and RAZOR2 thanks for reply. But my D505 darkened at the sides more than the palm rest - areas that were really hot. And my friend's Latitude also darkened/discoloured severely at the area where the power button is, also a hot spot. But glad to hear the new ones are different. Doesn't the XPS remind you of the look of a brand new Latitude lol.

 

For the person who wishes to have i7-740/840QM and GT435M or GT445M this is perfect. But mind the throttling - with Nvidia GPUs, already with higher TDPs, plus base config of 90W adapter.

But some of us want i5 + 435M like promised why is it Incompatible!

 

There is no issue which would prevent a 435M to work with a i5, so as I said earlier, Dell is just sloppy with their website. As for the specs of both the 15 and the 17, wait until the service manuals are available, they will contain every possible detail.

 

Yep, no 900p screen for the XPS 14. So Dell, the Inspiron 14 gets the option, but not the more upscale XPS line? Eh. Wow, this laptop had nearly everything I wanted, except for the screen. I'll have to sit and think about this one.

 

On the US site, if you bundle the TV tuner with the GPU you actually pay $50 less for the XPS 17, but you pay $50 more to get the bundle (as expected) on the XPS 15.

 

Well gpig that is not uncommon for Dell. It may be a rude surprise to some.

In my country's Dell on the Studio XPS you got a better GPU and more RAM if you bought an i7 config over an i5 config, and the price is negligible. But if you wanted i5 + all those you had to pay more. TYPICAL.

Now this thing about GT 435M - which we were hoping could come close to HD 5730, but certainly cannot compete in TDP even with 4670 - just gets worse.

 

Oh Yes! Even I saw that, and thought it was my tired eyes...

It seems the system without a TV Tuner will be more expensive as you will get better battery life!

ha ha!

 

Me think, Dell is defeating the whole purpose of launching newer model to combat the XPS 16 issues (heat / throttling) by using the NVidia chips from H-e-l-l.

I have a gut feel these guys are really trying to pave way for something better albeit expensive in the near future...
Meanwhile we all get a monolithic metallic monster shoved down our dry throats....

 

No 1080 on the 17, I guess I'm going to have to seriously consider buying something other than a Dell for the first time ever if it is not added soon. Should I be looking at the HP Envy's?

I know Dell sometimes takes a couple days to fill in all of the upgrades, so I'm hopeful it will be coming soon.

It is also too bad that Dell doesn't offer a high end gaming lappy that doesn't have an Alien logo on the cover. It doesn't look real good in a business environment...

 

Why does Dell NEVER offer the dual-core i7s? i7 620M, now the i7 640M...

Anyone know if the BIOS would recognize one if you swapped it in?

 

I just saw the new XPS line. I am not regretting my Studio XPS 16 purchase! The SXPS is so much better looking. The XPS is more powerful and priced more fairly though.
If only they fixed the heating issue and not totally resign the SXPS cause that was already a nice design

 

Smack:
I really share your hope man! Like i said, I am slowly starting to regret my decision of sending back my XPS 16... I may be getting a replacement out of these newer models but it seems like a punishment now, as there are more specs than one which would be a heavy compromise..
Lets hope DELL does WAKE up before the envy takes over...

 

Hummm..

the 420M is the same card as 425M & 435M with underclock and undervolt no ?

So, i5 + 420M (with overclock frequency of 435M) is a good solution no ? and for less expensive