[NEWS] Studio XPS 15 and XPS 17 !!

No 900p option on the XPS 14 means I now officially have zero regrets about ordering that refurb Envy 14 on ebay with a 900p screen two days ago. Even sadder that despite the Envy's half an inch larger screen it's still smaller in almost every measurement than the XPS 14. I really don't know what Dell is thinking with this so called high end line up. Thank you Dell for ensuring I don't lose any sleep over my decision to not purchase from you!

 

At least Dell made someone happy! Eh landale!

 

I seriously can't believe you have to have a quad-core to get the 435M on the 15"... and to get the 425M on the 14" too! That's the most ridiculous thing... the whole reason I was wanting these laptops is because they had powerful graphics with Optimus for the longer battery life... but of course no Optimus with the quad-cores!

Ridiculous, Dell. Just ridiculous.

 

Any benchmarks on the 435M?

 

LOL that's funny Iandale - I'd like an Envy 14 Beats myself if 1. it were available to me for sale and 2. it came with i5.

Ckhurana you could still ask for something else from Dell, if you really don't want XPS. Alienware would be a bit of a stretch. So maybe a FullHD B+RGLED and GT435 and i7-740QM, which would make it specs wise equivalent or better than what you had.

 

Kinda disappointed that they've lowered the standard for an XPS machine, makes my S-XPS sound less amazing!

Definitely happy that I didn't wait for this update. I couldn't live without the 1080p RGBLED display or with the looks of this thing. Very ugly.

 

You should be able to match the GT 425M's clock speeds, but the GT 435M's is very unlikely unless the core voltage gets a bump.

 

It does have the RGBLED display, to be fair.

 

B+RG, whatever that means

 

Ok, according to game benchmarks form notebookcheck:

The 420M is about 10% slower than the HD5650, thats a fact.
The 425M should be about the same as a HD5650.
The 435M should be another 10% faster than the HD5650, and should have a similar performable as the HD5750.
The 445M has a different design, and should be much faster than the 5750, Notebookcheck seems to think that it will easily compete with the 5850.

 

The thread title is wrong-they've ditched 'Studio'. These are XPS systems, and to me it looks like a return to form.

Obviously I wish you could configure the 17" model with a Geforce GTX 460, but otherwise these really look nice. They're how I'd configure things for a system in this price range!

 

Hahaha, GTX 460... that got plugged from reality about a month ago when the first specs leaked. But we're really concerned why or how come we can't have i5 + GT 335M. Bad enough they have not offered i5-580/i7-620/i7-640.

 

What do you people want, a multimedia, all-purpose notebook...than get this one for 1200€, with all the bells and whistles, or a full featured dual-GPU gaming monster, than you are in the wrong thread and should get the M17x for 2200€.

And by the way, wait a couple of hours, days for them to settle the website with all the options, or call the freakin customer service if you can't, but stop shouting in every third post, this system is a) ugly, b) why can't we have it with fries...get over it.

 

no usb 3 for xps 14? Why?

 

it's ugly and heavy.

 

Seriously... we need one of the Dell guys that lurk here to maybe answer why Dell made some of these terrible decisions.

No 900p option on the 14". 1366x768 Is NOT ACCEPTABLE on a machine larger than 12" or so... it's just not!

No upgraded graphics without quad-core CPUs... seriously? The whole attraction of these laptops for me was the idea there was finally a decent upper-midrange laptop with good graphics and Optimus for battery life. But only getting the 420M? To hell with that.

And for some inane reason Dell refuses to offer the best dual-core Intel CPUs in consumer machines... what did the i7 620M and i7 640M ever do to Dell? Steal their first born?

 

Specs are good, its one ugly duckling for such a premium notebook. Shame on dell.

The weight & dimensions for a 15.4" is almost as big as the SXPS 16.

what a shame. I think their R&D dept should be lined up for public lashing.

Now i dont even know if i should buy this new stuff or get the SXPS16

 

its on engadget

Dell XPS resurrected with NVIDIA graphics, HD webcams and JBL audio -- Engadget

 

This is a forum about the New XPS 15 and XPS 17. Maybe you should get over people voicing there current disappointment in what dell is offering. If Dell adds options later on so be it.

 

Oh, here's the Anandtech post.

Dell XPS Laptops: Back to the Future - AnandTech :: Your Source for Hardware Analysis and News

And the specs matrix...

 

Are you guys in write only mode...wait, before shouting about not enough options...the dell.de website is definitely not right...half of the specs is in french...so it is highly probable that the other half is not working correctly too.

 

it looks like the 15R alloy edition.

 

When you try to select the upgraded graphics without going for the quad-core CPU, it gives a very specific error message saying you HAVE to have the quad-core to select that GPU.

Which means it's not an error, someone took the time to write that message up and implement it in the website.

 

I need to see it in person. The XPS16 looks good on paper but after owning it for several months, and having taken it apart to replace the keyboard, it's actually quite cheap. The amount of plastic is astronomical. The plastic over the LCD is also a huge annoyance.

 

Am I missing it, or does Dell not sell spare power supplies for these XPS systems yet?

 

wow no slot load dvd player?!?!?!?! ?

 

Ok, the Spec sheet is only accurate for Dell USA, probably. Because other sites have other offerings. That being said, universally the major sites/sales locations, i.e. USA, Canada, select European countries like UK, France, Germany, Switzerland, select countries in Asia, etc will have models which revolve around the same set of specs (because some countries' don't even have Clarksfield laptops on sale).

And we have found universally that they are only offering dual core i3/i5 with GT420M and no GT435M for XPS 15 - again, not a glitch.

 

Why does the XPS 14 not have USB 3.0 options like the others? Is it the design thats the problem?

 

Engadget already got a XPS 14 in for review, so hopefully they will post up more information within a day or two. If the LCD has decent brightness and contrast level, it may be excusable, but I'm not holding my breath.

 

As per the Anandtech article, it's an issue of space. USB 3.0 requires an extra chip, which can get hard to put in the smaller the system.

I'd guess price, although are slot loading drives actually more expensive?

I like normal trays on desktop drives, but prefer slot loading on notebooks since the alternative is the "eject the entire drive mechanism"...mechanism :lol: But oh well.

Dang it, where are the spare AC adapters?

 

How often do you actually use the optical drive anyway... yes slot is cooler and more convenient but it isn't the big issue.

In my opinion XPS 14 is < Studio XPS 16 since no USB3.0 and inferior GPU and screen.

However if small and light is what you want, that's slightly cheaper than Envy 14?

Only XPS 15/17 are worthy. But no FullHD on XPS 17 or I would consider that thing with 3GB GT445M. Not GDDR5 unfortunately.

 

first, has anyone heard the speakers on these and can you give me your opinion (how do they compare to the msi 663 speakers?).

second, does anyone know which brand and series of ssd the dell uses?

 

They look ok to me I wonder how the screen compares to the old RGB LED screens and what the battery life is gonna be like.

 

I think I will stick my my SXPS1647 thank you very much. Just on looks alone. BTW I'll ask again, how do the new Nvidia GPU's compare to the "old" ATi's?

 

@heatfireash
hey your 5730 will tear gt435m to pieces.BTW if you have 4670 then expect the same performance with gt435m.THat means you are bound to have greater gpu power!

 

Based on benchmarks on Notebookcheck the GT 435M is just under the HD 5730. It passes 565v/4670 though.

GT 445M passes HD 5830/5850. Everything else below 435 just sucks.

JBL + subwoofer + Wavesmaxx, the speakers on the XPS, were also on my prior Lenovo Y550P. They were soft, poor quality, but could be improved minutely in volume and quality with some special "media software". Even with that, you had to use earphones unless it was absolutely quiet outside, and in your house, like late at night, with nothing else going on. I watch TV so yeah - obviously some songs/mp3s and on games it will be louder.

A user claims it is because of Lenovo not because of JBL. Well we shall see when somebody gets the XPS 15. I want to in the next couple of weeks when this thing comes out in my country.

 

Anandtech reviewed the Studio 17 and said the JBL speakers on it were quite good.

 

the speakers on the studio 17 are amazing, these should be even better with the inclusion of a 12w sub (they are usually 2-5w)

I am really tempted by the xps 15 with 1080p and nvidia 420m. Just hope there is plenty of overclocking potential as I dont want an i7 cpu due to high temps and poor battery life plus knowing dell it will probably throttle

 

well ... at least the RGB-LED Screen option is back

 

Alienware is what there replacing my studio XPS 1645 with. I love the build of SXPS 1645, but the throttling, overheating... I can't do it anymore. I agree with the others, the new designs look horrible. Ugh, where did the class go?

But I would request a Alienware build. Wouldn't hurt to ask.

There actually sending me the following:

Intel® Core™ i7 740QM
Base System Color: Alienware M15X, Cosmic Black
Operating System:Genuine Windows® 7 Ultimate, 64bit, English
LCD Display: 15.6-inch WideFHD 1920x1080 (1080p) WLED
Memory:4GB Dual Channel Memory (2x 2GB DDR3)
Hard Drive: 500GB SATAII 7,200RPM
Optical Drives: Slot-Load Dual Layer DVD Burner
Video Card: 1GB GDDR5 ATI Radeon™ Mobility HD 5850
Wireless: Wireless 1520 802.11n Half Mini-Card
Primary Battery: Primary - 9-cell (85Watt) Lithium-Ion Battery
Sound: Internal High-Definition 5.1 Surround Sound Audio
Bluetooth: Internal Bluetooth 2.1 Mini-Card - 2.1 Enhanced Data

 

Okay, I haven't been complaining recently, but only a 256 GB SSD available on the 15-inch? No 128 GB? I can't afford $550 extra...

 

Not sure if the B+RGLED is an RGB LED or equivalent. It seems more expensive.

The Prom that is hard to say for sure. Because GT 435M is only right below HD 5730, and this one has 2GB RAM, for what it's worth. Plus no actual results yet, those were predictions.

Well if Studio 17's sound was good then hopefully the new ones are. Because XPS Ms were terrible.

 

Sorry if this was already asked/answered. Why is there no 1920x1080 option on the 17"??

 

There were about 6 months last year with the same problem on the Studio 17. Don't know why, but they'll have to cough it up with the Sandy Bridge refresh if they want me to buy one. It's bad enough that I have to lose 10% of my screen real estate going from 1920x1200 down to 1920x1080, but down to 1600x900 is just a non-starter for me. On a 17", I'd prefer 2560x1440 if I have to live with 16:9.

 

Personally I'd want to add it aftermarket anyway, since then you know what you're getting, and I like swaping drives anyway so if I have to send it in for service, I can swap the original drive back in without my personal data.

Is 128GB enough for a single drive system though? I'd say look at the 500GB Seagate Momentus XT-I think it's the largest Momentus XT right now at least. It's performance in Anandtech's review is amazing-the things that most bother me about hard drive speed is booting Windows, and being able to launch programs for the first time, and the Momentus XT for those things was closer to a quality SSD than a mechanical hard drive.

It's a 500GB 7200RPM drive with a 32MB RAM cache, and a 4GB SLC flash cache. At WORST it's better than the normal 7200RPM drives since it's got double the cache on it, and at best it's cutting times in half. It almost always outperformed Western Digital's newest Velocirapter, which is a 10,000RPM drive that can't even be used in notebooks.

Price wise it's cheap too-I picked one up a couple months ago for <$140.

 

Yikes, I'd prefer 1600x900 on a 17" notebook :-D My 22" desktop is 1650xsomethingorother, and I wouldn't want denser than that.

 

major buzkill that the 14 doesnt have a premium screen option

 

14 inch systems typically only have 1366x768 - see Acer, Lenovo, Sony, HP, Asus, and even Dell - but Envy 14 has 900p.

Question guys, what about the colours we have seen, i.e. grey/silver/black panelling? No options.

 

This machine would look a great deal sexier if you could choose to have the anodized aluminum parts come in candy apple red or lime green. In my opinion, the design isn't ugly per se, it's just really boring (gray and black is so 2001).

 

My 15" is 1920x1200 right now, and that's just fine.

What's wrong with dense? Higher resolution and/or dot pitch is considered good by just about everyone when it comes to printers. I don't understand the desire for crummy resolution on screens.