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    [NEWS] Studio XPS 15 and XPS 17 !!

    Discussion in 'Dell XPS and Studio XPS' started by fr0x, Sep 14, 2010.

  1. poiuytre

    poiuytre Notebook Consultant

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    LOL. Because images on paper are not backlit, and you don't stare at them for hours?
     
  2. Livewings

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    Dell, you have just lost a customer, even though I'm working for them. I'm going elsewhere to find sexy looking laptops and yet has amazing specs.

    This thing quite amazing specs, but omg, the design is like I'm living in the year 2002.
     
  3. Theprom

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    well neither xps 15 config/design/tray load impressed me.M more leaned towards 1645 now.I pray to god that dell has these 1645's in their inventory!
     
  4. BetaPro

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    Dell Canada doesn't have it yet, right?
     
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    do they have widi?
     
  6. 905er

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    Hi BetaPro,

    I just asked through Chat, and the agent replied:

    "As of now we dont have an exact date as to when it will be launched in Canada"

    FWIW.

    cheers
     
  7. poiuytre

    poiuytre Notebook Consultant

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    Ok yeah the design isn't great but it's not that bad. Aside from the look of Alienware I have never really seen any impressive laptop designs. The older Asus were much nicer than some available now (except NX90) and MSI just looks ridiculous. Not to mention Lenovo, Compaq, etc. Sony is decent, not awesome, there is a tendency for "gaming" laptops to look like horrid caricatures, and Acer looks a little dodgy like Dell.
     
  8. BetaPro

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    well, fine for me since I'm also considering other options, I just wanted to know about the pricing. now that CAD is almost equal to USD, hope that we won't get ripped off by Canadian pricing which usually doesn't even take into account exchange rate and just make stuffs more expensive.
     
  9. Lee Jay

    Lee Jay Notebook Geek

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    Ummm...I spent 16 hours a day for 7 years in college staring at paper in text books and so on. I'm glad the printing was at least of good quality, since most of the writing wasn't.
     
  10. BadMrFrosty

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    Has anyone ordered one yet?

    I am thinking about getting a 15" one to replace my 1530, would be here just in time for WoW expansion too.. Hmm, been scouring looking for coupon codes, even 10% would make it worth it.

    BMF
     
  11. TotalLamer

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    Looks like notebookcheck is saying the GT 420M performs somewhere in between a GT 330M and GT 335M.
     
  12. Wolfpup

    Wolfpup Notebook Prophet

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    It's not crummy, and it's because it's waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too high resolution for a lot of people. If OSes had true resolution independence, then it wouldn't matter, but they don't, and there's not even a hint of a time table to when they might.
     
  13. Theprom

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    hey its waste to fight for the discount.These laptops aren't that good .You will be seriously dissappointed with these new designs,tray load.Your m1530 will simply feel more porsche!
     
  14. BadMrFrosty

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    I can count on 1 hand the number of times in the last 24 months I've put a CD in my laptop.

    Who cares?
     
  15. Lee Jay

    Lee Jay Notebook Geek

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    1600x900 isn't crummy? I had 1600x1200 over 15 years ago!

    People are all worried about how they look, and how the DVD-loading mechanism "feels". It cracks me up. I just want to be able to get the things done that I need done, and screen real estate and resolution help efficiency and quality tremendously.
     
  16. poiuytre

    poiuytre Notebook Consultant

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    Once again, I have been screwed over by Dell.

    i7 + GT 435M with 640GB is less than i5 + GT 420M with 500GB upgraded to that. Which is fine except they will not allow i5 + GT 435M or i7 + GT 420M.
     
  17. J.R. Nelson

    J.R. Nelson Minister of Awesome

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    I'm pretty impressed with the cost of these things. I configged a 15-inch one, adding in the 1080p RGB screen (yay!), left in the HDD and the 720QM, added backlighting, Bluetooth, WiMax, 8 gigs of RAM, yadda yadda and it came to a bit over $1600. It's also got a BD-DVD drive, which is cool, but I'd never use it.

    It's not the most forward thinking style - especially considering its XPS lineage - but it's not bad and it seems like a pretty solid value imo.
     
  18. poiuytre

    poiuytre Notebook Consultant

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    Ok its got the Intel 6200, when upgrading to Intel 6300 it says "not compatible with WLAN back cover, get WWAN back cover". What does the wifi card have to do with the WWAN cover (which costs more for mine)?

    And how is 6300 better than 6200?

    Oh and no i5-560M for mine. Great. Either i5-460M or the quads. Just gets worse.
     
  19. Wolfpup

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    Well almost no one else did, and regardless, 1600x900 on a 17" screen is already extremely high resolution for the screen size.
     
  20. TotalLamer

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    Who cares about slot-load vs tray-load. :confused: If anything the tray load is better... can't get your disc stuck in there like with a slot-load.
     
  21. Ichinenjuu

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    Thanks for the info; I'll look into it. I just really don't use that much space. Right now I have a computer with 320 GB of hard disk space and I'm only using about 50 GB of space and I've had it for over a year now.

    128 GB SSD would be fine for me; I hate that they force you to get the $550 one. :(
     
  22. ZippoMan

    ZippoMan Notebook Evangelist

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    I run 1920x1080 on my XPS16, and before that I ran 1920x1200 on an M1530 (15.4" screen). Do I have superhuman vision? No. It's called Windows DPI. You can raise DPI to make font larger and more comfortable to read, while maintaining awesome pixel density for superior clarity. 1080p is definitely a must for me, on anything larger than 14".
     
  23. Lee Jay

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    Whatever, preferences are personal.

    The point is, I had no trouble configuring a low-end Inspiron 8600 with a 15" 1920x1200 display over 6 years ago. We're going backwards, not forwards on available screen real estate even as screen physical sizes grow. I have no trouble with offering low-res screens for people that want them, I just have a problem with NOT offering high-res screens for people that do.

    My prefs:
    15" 16:9 - 1920x1080
    17" 16:9 - 1920x1080 or 2560x1440
    24" 16:10 - 1920x1200 or 2560x1600
    30" 16:10 - 2560x1600 or 4096x2560
     
  24. Razor2

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    1366x768 is definitely a no go on 15", and some build even 16" notebooks with it...yikes.
    The main question is however the contrast of the displays...thats what separates crap from real displays...premium Dell displays used to be on par with Apple on this thing, lets hope they can keep it up.
     
  25. ZippoMan

    ZippoMan Notebook Evangelist

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    Says who? Have you seen this laptop first hand? While I'm not crazy about the design, the build quality may be impressive.

    I want to get my hands on the 15" or 17" before making my final verdict.
     
  26. poiuytre

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    Any of those reviews out yet?

    Sadly I won't be buying an XPS. I was looking forward to it, but I won't buy something that is i5-460M + GT420M, even with B+RGLLED and backlit keyboard and USB 3.0. Now goddamn it when are the new AMD laptops coming
     
  27. J.R. Nelson

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    I'm not super excited about AMD laptops until Bobcat officially launches and even then it's going to have a heck of a time competing with Sandy Bridge imo.


    Some of those are a bit unreasonable, because frankly no OS is resolution independent yet. I am fine with a 1080/1200p 15-inch laptop, since that's how I ordered mine back in 2004(?) I think. That 1440p 17-inch screen would be introducing 177% as many pixels almost as a 1080p screen, and the screen size is only 22% larger.
     
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  28. redsnow

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    hey guys need some advice here, i am confused. :confused:
    i ordered a studio xps 1645 a month back but they cancelled my ordered because of this xps 15 thing coming. i didn't demand for refund because i thought it would be better to see this new lineup. :p

    now today out of nowhere they again sent an email of status "order received" with 9 cell turned to 6 cell and 15 months antivirus subscription, everything else same. so what do u think i should cancel this one or take it. i am not much into this usb 3.0 thing nor hdmi 1.4...

    what say :confused:
    plz do comment :)
     
  29. poiuytre

    poiuytre Notebook Consultant

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    The only advantage is USB 3.0. Take the Studio XPS.

    Oh and I was referring to new AMD GPUs lol, I like Intel processors - simply because they are 1 of 2, and the other is less available.
     
  30. J.R. Nelson

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    Oh oh, right! Haha, agreed, then. :)
     
  31. Wolfpup

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    DPI adjustments can be a nice hack if resolution's too high, but they screw up the way programs and web sites, etc. render, so they're not always useable.
     
  32. iambert

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    Very confused about the Integrated network card. According to the specs its your standard 10/100/1000. If you configure a system like the xps 15 and add it to the cart it only shows 10/100? According to the dell chat guy it is 10/100... PLEASE tell me they are not failing like they did with the m1530!!!
     
  33. redsnow

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    thanxx for the advice studio XPS it is.. :)
     
  34. nomoredell

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    dont these new xps 14/15/17 reminds you of old inspiron lines-- 2006 dell 700m /1710 series? i know i do, the shiny metal strip on the lid. i guess thats the difirence between new xps from studio xps:
    studio xps 16 stands for extreme pretty system while the "new" one carrys the same old torch of dell design--plain and ugly extrme performance system.
     
  35. J.R. Nelson

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    We're supposed to get our review unit in today or tomorrow, and I'm sure it'll come up then.
     
  36. Lee Jay

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    17" at 2560 is only 17% more linear resolution than 15" at 1920. 17% is so small as to be virtually unnoticeable.
     
  37. MrVibe

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    oh boy, they are ugly...
     
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    No USB 3.0? What a disappointment after all this wait.
     
  39. alexswanson

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    Just spoke to a dell csr and he said that there is no option for backlit keyboards in the UK :(
     
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    Well, just placed an order for the XPS 14. Went with the i5 560M, 8GB RAM, Back-lit keyboard and the Geforce GT 420M. EDD 11/22; let's see how this one goes.
     
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    Is this really what Dell has come up with? These look as fat as the notebook I bought in 2000. Nice tray-loading optical drive too. Seriously Dell this thing looks like !
     
  42. nomoredell

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    found the benchmark of gt 420m on
    \\\ NVIDIA GeForce GT 420M - Notebookcheck.net Tech
    only 6k score on 3d mark06, 128bit

    ati5730 scores around 7k and also a 128bit.
    so i guess someone was right about the new "xps", its a regular studio replacement performance wise yet with less looks.
    stop compare these new xps with the true xps --m1730 or studio 1640s.
     
  43. TotalLamer

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    What sense does this make? :confused:

    So the 420M scores only 1k lower than the 5730 in 3D Mark06? And the 420M is the LOWEST graphic option, yet you're saying the new line is horrible? :confused:
     
  44. seeker_moc

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    Notebookcheck.net benchmarks are not to be entirely trusted. There's no standardization of their tests. They could be at different resolutions, or with drastically different CPUs, which also affect the scores. Also, the sources they pull the results from are questionable. I'd wait for some more professional benchmark results to come out.

    Edit: The notebookcheck.net will become more accurate later, when more scores are collected, and then averaged together. For example, their 3DMark06 5730 benchmarks are compiled from 10 different sources (though the average is lower than what I get without any OC), whereas the 420m as of yet has only one source, possibly with a bit of early review bias added.
     
  45. TotalLamer

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    Yeah I figured.

    It's just the post of the guy I quoted made no sense at all.
     
  46. seeker_moc

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    From what I understand, the B+RG screen is not an RGB LED screen. It's just a higher-quality WLED screen. Still good, but not what you think. Also, the price is horrible. The Studio XPS 16 with the same config you mentioned above, but with a better 5730 GPU, would have cost about $200 less.

    Also, why does dell pair the 435 with 2GB of vRAM? That doesn't make any sense. Much more powerful desktop cards that run at higher resolutions only have 1GB. I doubt you'll see any difference between 1GB and 2GB at 720p, and only a minuscule one at 1080p. They could have lowered the price a bit with a more reasonable 1GB of vRAM.
     
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    damn i wish it look a little thinner.
     
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    The screen quality on the new ones is much better. There's no reason, past a certain point, to have extra resolution, particularly on a smallish screen. There are other things that are important besides resolution in assessing screen quality, and the LED screens and even modern LCDs have a much better refresh rate and superior contrast levels to your 6-year old high-res LCD monitors.

    1920x1080 is a better resolution than 1920x1200, because the native screen resolution is the proper aspect ratio for watching high-def (blu ray) movies.
     
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    For the size they could of least put a second HDD/SDD drive bay.. glad I did move on to a MBP
     
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