[NEWS] Studio XPS 15 and XPS 17 !!

No, Dell France confirmed the launch date for late October, early November. So they will not wait for Sandy Bridge.

Afterwards he will take into concideration I think the shipping time because if Dell shipped within 1 month SXPS, it is true it will probably be better to wait for the refresh with Sandy Bridge

 

Maybe they would use Motherboards that are compatible with the future i7 processors so as the new line of Sandy Bridge processors are launched they would just upgrade the BIOS and make it compatible

 

I think that Sandy Bridge necessarily need the platform to run Huron River (new chipset serie 6), so it would not be compatible with a bios update. But I say maybe silly things

 

Well....Then its worth to wait for couple of months to get a Sandy Bridge refresh of SXPS.

As in past, lets expect Intel may release the sandy bridge family of processors well ahead of time, ie, before 9th Jan 2011

So we may see more laptop models in CES 2011 (Jan 6-9).

 

Sandy Bridge edition will be coming with the OLED version of the sxps probably.

 

OLED is still so so expensive though! The concept model that was built with the OLED looked great but the screen alone cost over $3000!

 

New design looks rather ugly. I wonder if it is the angle of the picture. The non-XPS and Inspiron looks better

 

why are they making these when the refresh of intel's lineup is coming at the beginning of next year?

 

If we can get these babies with mobile Sandy Bridge by the beginning of the year it will be nice. Glad to hear Dell hasn't dropped the SXPS line though.

 

Be interesting to see if what they will do with the screens

 

Arggghhh I was just about to order a SXPS 16 this week. Should I wait now for these new models? If they are going to be out this fall for the Christmas shopping season I think I should wait, but if it's all the way to January then maybe not.

Anyone know?

 

CPU Throttling? GPU Throttling ~ Overheating?
I dont know about you guys but for I am going to stay away from these when they get out.

 

@stock7 - It's tempting to wait! But who knows what they'll be like in reality, and the design might not be to your taste!

@fmac - stop trolling in the S-XPS forums, it's pretty tiresome to come across it in a thread that's for optimistic rumours.

 

bye bye ati , its really hard for me to live with ati for the last 2 years if it wasnt for the RGB led screen.
"Am I supposed to put my gaming on hold
Because you don't know how to act
Na na na na, na na na na
Hey hey hey
Goodbye"

 

My advice would be wait (sandy bridge coming in january).

Trouble is on one side I don't think Dell would bother to release new models one or two months before SB, but on the other side if they do will SB become available in a short time after its official launch all the same ?

 

Forgive my ignorance, but is there really a big difference between SB and the current-gen chips? I know that SB will be much better on the GPU front, but it would still be nowhere close to the power a discrete GPU can give. CPU processing wise, I was led to believe that the improvement is incremental. What I'm aiming for is that a studio XPS with discrete GPU would still be vastly superior to a SB laptop in terms of pure GPU power so it may not be worthwhile for the average user to wait for SB?

 

I still guess Dell might include the SB compatible mother board to market their upcoming SXPS 15/17 after 2 months

 

Don't bet on it. Series 6 motherboards are not yet released, so they can't offer them.
But...they can (and will) design the chassis with the new board in mind, so they can offer it as soon as Intel lets them.

 

I would qualify the CPU power increase as huge for quad-cores, and incremental for dual cores, as atm quad cores are in 45nm while dual cores are already 32nm. So, quads get a very nice boost in frequencies (500mhz for the entry level), while duals don't. Of course Sandy is faster clock to clock, but not that faster overall (it really depends on the task performed, might be huge for some tasks that benefit from AVX).

So if you go for a quad, you get both and overall the basic SB quad (i7-2720qm), clocked 2,2ghz, should crush the current cream of the crop, and I might add insanely priced i7-940xm. Also turbo boost which benefits mobile CPUs is improved, and should be higher even when all cores are running.

The most interesting thing about sandy bridge is battery life which should be noticeably improved, and we can expect cooler CPUs too (45W for quads include IGP, so the CPU's TDP is lower than current offer). Plus if you have a discrete GPU for many tasks it will often be useless and hopefully turned off (Optimus & AMD equivalent ?), which again seems like a huge potential gain in this field.

 

the most important and the most expensive component on the laptops is no longer cpu or gpu, its the lcd screen.
apple has ips screen on ipads, samsung uses super amoled on its galaxy-s smartphone, we shall see whats next on dell xps units, it cant be a downgrade to RGB led.

 

What about mobile Intel Extreme CPUs?

 

Have you actually ever seen one in the wild, or met someone who has?

 

That's debatable on both counts. If you have a core-i5 or higher CPU and no OLED screen, CPU will be higher. If you want to experience what a low end CPU with a high end screen feels like, try a Sony Vaio X. You'll pull your hair out over the performance but it looks great!

 

No, but I've never seen an RGBLED either. If I had the choice to either upgrade my WLED to RGBLED or i7 to extreme i7 I'd go with the processor every time.

 

Yes ... And it should be being the most used interactive component of a PC/laptop. This is the hardware which we see and interact. So at least I can not compromise on its quality and resolution

 

Clock for clock sandy bridge is 10-15% faster than arrandale and it will also have more aggressive turbo timings. Its a big step up..its an entire new uARCh..its a tick, not to mention the brand new 256-bit AVX extensions..

Like it was already mentioned..the SB mobile quads will eat up clarksfield, especially in performance/watt

 

@kezuk12: Trolling? Haha please, been here much longer than you and never said something to f.uck someone up or to give the wrong information.
You didnt suffer the process of CPU Throttling, you just bought the laptop with almost all problems fixed, thats easy.
There where people that bought the SXPS 1640/1645/1647 and had to wait almost 6 moths for a RESPONSE from dell, much longer for a fix.
So dont tell me i am trolling, I am just giving people a warning not to buy a laptop that will cost a LOT of money and that will not work as you expect,cause that is probably what its going to happen, knowning Dell.
I think you are the troll here, you bought a laptop that still has a serious problem and that is overheating, which causes gpu throttling and still you have the decency to defend it or to recommend it to someone else just because you bought a cooling pad that "fixes" the issue. Not everyone wants to buy a laptop and then buy another product in order to make it work correctly.. thats just stupid

 

+1.

At home I can use an (23") external monitor which would take preference over anything that could be offered by 15" or 17" models. My main concern for screens is in regards to battery life as opposed to the visuals.

It's a shame they aren't reviving the SXPS 13....

 

Your pic of Kramer gives you a troll-ish look though Also, not all of us have throttling, though I can understand the anger of those that do. I actually got kicked out of the Lenovo forums (not the Lenovo board of this forum BTW) for (what they claimed was) trolling, after I started complaining about the crappy quality of the Y560 display, which I then returned to get the XPS16. The mods didn't like that I started suggesting the XPS16 or the ASUS N61Jq as alternatives to the Y560 (15.6", i7 720, 5730, all very similar component-wise) without the same screen problem .

 

I second this. I tortured my XPS till it screamed when I first got it this summer and could not find a hint of throttling. I understand your pain fmac, and there are still new XPS buyers who are reporting throttling. I think though from the browsing I have done of these forums the throttling issue (at least in new XPSs) is close to being solved.

 

Actually, I think FMAC's point is well taken. Dell may or may not have finally solved allof the XPS 16's issues. But it is years after the model was released and it has been defective most of that time with heat and throttling issues. I don't know any reason why you would not expect the same from a new XPS model.

Bronsky

 

Do not worry. Some people are like this who do not want to accept the bitter truth and blames others. SXPS has problems and it took 6 long months for Dell to accept the problems !!! Lets hope SXPS 15/17 will not have those faults again, hope for the best fingers crossed.

 

Same like the AW m17x has issue
hope they will accept that too

 

Yeah, This is what I would like to know, If these come before SB how long will it take Dell to refresh these with SB after they launch on jan 9th? I would if I knew they were going to put SB in these in Jan or even early Feb. However if they are not going to refresh with SB until March or later then no won't wait that long.

And I wonder how many USB 3.0 ports will come with these should be at least 2 at this point.

 

By the time one actually gets the SXPS 15/17 (considering 1-2 months shipping time), SB will be announced on 9th Jan 2011

Do you think ppl will still order the SXPS 15/17 in oct last or nov-first weeks ?

 

But how fast will SB ship is the question. If Dell doesn't ship until march, then it's quite a way off.

 

If you go by history, Intel generally ships to retailers before the official launch of the processor. So lets hope SB will come before 09 Jan 2011

 

That's cool. But still if Dell doesn't ship their SB notebook until late feb that would suck.

 

I think, Dell has already SB processor and chipset 6 series in version test for create the motherboard and testing with a beta bios.

Just look when Intel officially launch the HM55 and Clarksfield processor in September 2009.

Looking more closely at the X series of internal beta bios Studio XPS 1645 for example, they had already chipset and processor to test the machines in April 2009, five months before the official launch by Intel.

 

Guys, i was planning to get a Studio XPS 16.. Do i neeed to wait. does this romour has any credibility? Please help

 

There can not be fumes without fire. Even Engadget posted about this rumor/news

Again it was a high time for Dell to come up with SXPS refresh after a series of problems discovered. So lets hope it will come by Oct.

 

I do not think a manager of Dell France will allow for the dissemination of false information and even less in some detail.

I think that if the information was false, Dell would quickly denied the report as now many sites like Engadget have circulated the rumor There are a lot of news now on this information in lot of country USA, France, Indian, Britain....

By cons, apparently we haven't more information until the official announcement unfortunately, at least by Dell France. Why not more information from the US

 

I believe this information is most likely true, If these do come out before SB I am leaning toward holding out for SB. Because I know what's going to happen if these laptops arrive in late OCT or Early NOV and I will purchase one and I wont get it till l late NOV or DEC if I am lucky with Holiday shipping going on and all. Then comes JANUARY and SB in the notebooks and I am going to end up kicking myself for not holding out a little longer. Of course that goes back to the question of how soon will Dell ship the Notebooks with SB. If the Vendors do get the SB processors a Month before or earlier you would think that SB notebooks would ship mid late January or early Feb.

We will see

 

How much do you think it'll devalue for ebay resale when SB comes out?

 

3gb of video ram config screams 2x 1.5gb to me. Either that, or you are looking at a fermi professional graphics part.

The design looks like crap though.

-Ash

 

so again that clearly isn't the design, that's just the new dell mini

 

My English is really not very good. I hope you understand my English.

 

Please Lord, make the new XPS out of aluminum like macbooks.

 

oops....looks like I made a BIG mistake. I just ordered a SXPS 16(i7-740QM, 5730, 4GB, 500GB, FHD). It is currently in build manufacturing complete phase. do you think the order should be cancelled for the better SXPS 17.I'm bit disappointed but not that concerned cause I'm expecting them to be quite pricey above my budget. did I just make a big mistake ?

 

What about the 13-inch segment? As far as I remember the Dell rep called Bill told us in the spring that there was an XPS13 on the way. Any rumours or news about that?