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    [NEWS] Studio XPS 15 and XPS 17 !!

    Discussion in 'Dell XPS and Studio XPS' started by fr0x, Sep 14, 2010.

  1. kashing92

    kashing92 Notebook Consultant

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    Actually, you're right, they are gonna be hella expensive (compared to the current models).

    Besides, if you're American, it won't be that much of a difference. Over here in Asia the differences would be vast.

    Dell Studio XPS 15 & Studio XPS 17 Laptops: Specs & Review | B4tea.com

    Expect it by October/November.

    I did hear Studio XPS 14/15 from Dell, and yeah here the guy mentioned 13, but I guess all that info was wrong? Besides, while 14/15 was a rumour from a salesperson, without any details of course, we still have little real info on 15/17.
     
  2. URPradhan

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    I would say not a big mistake if you want your laptop now.
    The new models may have ...

    1. better heat mgmt
    2. no throttling issue
    3. usb 3.0
    4. switchable graphics (may be)

    So, just wait for the laptop delivered at you and use it for couple of days and if you have any problem, RETURN it. BTW, wt you have paid for your configuration ? Hope its a new one not a second hand (not a refrub one) :D
     
  3. parthg

    parthg Notebook Consultant

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    Well, The specs seem good.

    But the looks is crapy, Well we all knew that the SXPS design was faulty so a new design was required but i personally dont like the new design.

    Just curious on how many models do dell have for 15" notebook now

    INSPIRON 15 | STUDIO 15 | SXPS 15 | AW 15


    Also for me the new models are not replacing the Studio-XPS line but the XPS line.
    XPS 15 -> SXPS 15
    XPS 17 -> SXPS 17
     
  4. fr0x

    fr0x Notebook Consultant

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    It's not the new design of the SXPS 15 & 17.

    Look the first page ;)
     
  5. notebook303

    notebook303 Notebook Evangelist

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    Probably won't devalue much at all, but I'm pretty near 100% I'll wait to SB. I just hope DELL puts SB in these XPS 15 and XPS 17 soon after they debut better yet have them ready to ship with SB on Jan9th. (wishful thinking)
     
  6. notebook303

    notebook303 Notebook Evangelist

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    Anyone know/think this will have a slot -loading DVD/Blue Ray?
     
  7. seeker_moc

    seeker_moc Notebook Virtuoso

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    If they want to keep the XPS image of a high-end machine they will. I don't know why'd they have one now, then go back to a crappy tray.
     
  8. fr0x

    fr0x Notebook Consultant

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    I do not know if in other countries is the same but we get an email every Thursday from Dell to push us to buy the Studio XPS 16 since two week.

    Dell would they sell their stock :p ?
     
  9. Gloomy

    Gloomy Notebook Evangelist

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    I sure hope so. Let them make the mistake of clearing out SXPS 16 stock while I still have my 3 year warranty. Tee hee
     
  10. kezuk12

    kezuk12 Notebook Evangelist

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    The XPS line was phased out when Dell bought Alienware. The S-XPS line is for the sub Alienware market and premium Studio.
     
  11. kashing92

    kashing92 Notebook Consultant

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    You might be mistaken...

    Most likely the new Studio XPS will be similar to the current Studio XPS 16 in heat mgmt...

    The vent is blocked by the super large screen. In the XPS M1330 and Studio 15, Studio 14, Studio 17 etc the vent was in that back position but the screen did not cover it (completely).

    Unfortunately, the new Studio XPS may have a similar problem, but that waits to be seen. Hopefully it'll look better and function better.
     
  12. fr0x

    fr0x Notebook Consultant

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    I do not think we're the same problems with the old Studio and Studio XPS because Dell France confirmed that the screen is a bit advanced in the frame, as in the new Mini 10.

    But wait & see :)
     
  13. Razor2

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    Why can't they just put the vent on the left side? It worked on the Inspiron 1520, it never ever gets blocked...

    And by the way, it lets you have some ports on the back...
     
  14. h0bbes

    h0bbes Notebook Geek

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    I was interested in buying a SXPS16 but the heating issues were always a major drawback (Currrently on a 1520). I dont expect the SXPS15 to challenge the AW series (unfortunately)
     
  15. kashing92

    kashing92 Notebook Consultant

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    Ah "screen is more advanced" can be very dodgy.

    Being a Studio XPS 15 it could be that the overall frame and size is less bulky or wide... because the XPS 16 had 15.6 or 16 in a 16 inch frame.

    They could just do it like Vostros, Latitudes, or others... screen behind is possible, but raise the goddamn screen to be above the case...

    Side vent annoys me, but side vent is much larger than back vents. But then again, side venting laptops overheat a lot too. Besides, they could make more than one or two back vents (Alienware, Envy etc).
     
  16. fr0x

    fr0x Notebook Consultant

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    Information authorized to be shared by Dell-Bill_B :

    So, we now know that a refresh is also planned for the end of the year by Dell U.S. :)
     
  17. notebook303

    notebook303 Notebook Evangelist

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    [...] Love the enthusiasm for the new Studio XPS. Unfortunately, I am not allowed to comment. I can tell you that the new line is supposed to launch toward the end of this calendar year. I think we have release dates decided, but nothing we can officially talk about yet. [...]

    I wonder if he can comment on how soon SB will be added to these?
     
  18. Bronsky

    Bronsky Wait and Hope.

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    Actually, there can be fumes without fire ... it's smoke that can't exist without fire. ;)

    Bronsky :cool:
     
  19. fr0x

    fr0x Notebook Consultant

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    New email from Dell tonight for pushing to buy the Studio XPS 16 :)

    Why Dell is focused on the pub of Studio XPS 16 :p ?
     
  20. guapper

    guapper Notebook Consultant

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    'a bit advanced screen' brings this to mind:
    [​IMG]

    Guess we'll just have to wait a bit more to find out...
    :p
     
  21. Phinagle

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    [​IMG]
     
  22. temon

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    i love adamo design very neat
     
  23. kashing92

    kashing92 Notebook Consultant

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    OK while this design is nice, the same concept is applied across the board in laptops of other brands or in Vostros and Latitudes! Make the screen higher or above the vent! For gods sakes, look at the M1330. It only works if the screen isn't too long.

    BTW the new Mini 10 is out. It DOES NOT look anything like an XPS. If anything it looks like a very ugly mini. Stop comparing it to the new Studio XPS. The picture was misplaced, they have nothing in common.
     
  24. nomoredell

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    i have no idea what to expect this time other than keeping my expectations low. unlike y2008, we had rgb led screen out in the lab 3 months b4 it actually got shipped. its near october yet we have not seen any prototype.
    i'd say its gonna be a long wait for new xps and probably there isnt going to be any new features on them.
    apple is pushing out tablet ipads hard while micheal dell is trying his hardest to junk his own company so he can move all manufacturing plants to China.
     
  25. philostratus

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    Gosh, I really hope you're wrong and the wait isn't too long....But yeah, without a 1920x1080 HD screen, the Studio XPS line will really lose it's only advantage.
     
  26. French_Scrat

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    E.D.U. Notebook Deity

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    Whoa really?....very interesting. Now I'm looking forward to seeing these. The XPS is back, sounds great :). I do however wonder why they chose to do that.
     
  28. p53

    p53 Notebook Enthusiast

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    so, now they are XPS ("Xtreme Performance System", without "Studio") again and that's why they should be Dell's new line of gaming laptops, along with "Alienware"?
    that's nice, if it's true - I just hope they will be a bit thinner than alienware, and without the ROG's ugly butt (design of new Inspiron Mini 10 looks just like design of Asus G73Jh).
     
  29. RaLX

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    Niceeee, I'd love to replace my current XPS M1530 with a newer XPS, I never liked fingerprint loving Studio XPS and Alienware are ugly as hell, I've been considering Envy14 as a replacement but now I'll wait before deciding. :)
     
  30. LegitAsian

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    I hope XPS isn't as ugly as it's older versions...
     
  31. 5150Joker

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    I doubt Dell's going to bring back the XPS line. They got rid of it specifically because they took over Alienware. All the XPS engineers are now part of the Alienware team. I know this because I was told as much when I was at Alienware HQ in Miami. It would be foolish of them to reintroduce the XPS line to compete against their own Alienware brand.
     
  32. fr0x

    fr0x Notebook Consultant

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    Same, I doubt too.

    But the information is confirmed by many people quite well placed at Dell France, so i think it's true.This is no simple trade or technician who confirmed ;)

    My hypothesis:

    replace the Studio XPS by XPS with good performance and design much more "pro" that Alienware. Maybe not as powerful as the Alienware but with good performance and that separate from Studio 15, 17... in performance.

    When we see now that Studio 17 is equipped with 5650 while in Europe we still have the 4760 ... The Studio XPS line has less reason to be set aside for design.

    I also think that it's not for nothing that we never had the refresh of the XPS Studio 16 in Europe (only 4670) and we receive an email every Thursday to push us to buy ...

    But wait & see ;) I will perhaps soon be information from the U.S. ;) If I will allow to share the information, I will update the first post ;)
     
  33. Phinagle

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    Still plenty of room in the market for Dell to make two offerings to hardware enthusiasts that have different tastes.

    There are people that buy Clevo for it's looks after all.
     
  34. killaz05

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    Some people may not like the design of the Alienware products. So if Dell has the resources why not also offer a sleek powerful laptop as an XPS? It will give customers another option and make Dell that much more money. I am excited!
     
  35. Gazzajagman

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    I don't know if I can trust Dell again after my 1640. It's a shocking piece of eye candy over function. The poor implemetation of the Dell software on Vista 64 was tedious, the over heating issues are serious and very real, the CPU throttling has led me to question Dell's integrity. If I pay for a dual core kick cpu and GPU, then I expect to be able to use it....period. I have an older HP Pavillion dv9XXX that is a dual core celery from several years ago and after 1/2 of gaming on a City of Heroes, the Dell is a lot slower, fps reduced and too hot to use the keyboard. It's unworkable as a serious laptop, which is astonishing that Dell marketed this machine as a performance gaming / desktop replacement. It's not and it's got some pretty lame engineering and design issues.
     
  36. p53

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    as far as I know, in studio xps 16 throttling/overheating problem was caused by the poor design when fans were blowing against screen. of course, if they will not change this design for xps 15 and 17 they will just crash down momentarily by the heat generated by Nvidia GTX 480M/470M/460M (whatever they are going to put in these new laptops), even if they will be single, not SLI.
    so, there's no doubt they are going to change the design.
     
  37. @Prime

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    @p53

    This has been discussed before. It is not a heat issue, but a power issue. While it will throttle if it gets too hot; many people were not having heat issues and were still experiencing throttling.
     
  38. p53

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    of course, we don't know yet which GPUs they are going to use, but I doubt it will be something from ATI (like 5870), untill ATI is only thing which you can find in Alienware. in other words, there are 2 likely possibilities - they are splitting gaming laptop lines between NVIDIA and ATI (first goes for new XPS 15 & 17, second - for alienware); or - they are mixing them in both lines. I just think alienware's current design is not appropriate for NVIDIA GTX 480M/470M/460M, otherwise they would already put these cards in them. :)
     
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    Point taken about the design and likes/dislikes of Alienware. Some do prefer a more blocky look and this could fill that role. If they did introduce a performance Studio XPS notebook, I would guess it would be to compete at the value gaming segment with MSI, Asus and the other value notebook makers.
     
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    The current Alienware design is more than capable of handling the 460m/470m. The 480M may be a stretch but they could pull it off with some minor modifications to the cooling system. The cooling built into the M17x is very robust.
     
  41. Phinagle

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    Dell also benefits by being able to use a second (and possibly a third) ODM to build the XPS.

    Compal was the ODM for the XPS 1710/30, while Wistron manufactured the XPS 1530. Separate ODMs not only helps with supply problems, but something Flex screws up on the AW, Compal (or Wistron) could get right on the XPS...and vice versa.
     
  42. kashing92

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    Many of you are implying that the new (Studio or not Studio) XPS 15/17 will have a radically different design that does not see the screen completely blocking the vent.

    I sincerely hope this is true.
     
  43. philostratus

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    Whatever it is, I'm just hoping it comes out sooner rather than later. The redesign has been long overdue as it is. Dell is definitely late to the party refreshing its offerings.
     
  44. notebook303

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    questions

    These New Studio XPS 15 and XPS 17 Notebooks aren't going to be gaming machines correct? I mean they mostly likely can be used as gaming notebooks but they are just going to be High Performance consumer notebooks correct? Above the current Studio line correct?

    I'm just getting a little confused because Alienware notebooks are gaming correct?

    F.Y.I - I'm not as familiar with the line of notebooks as some of you guys seem to be.
     
  45. kashing92

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    It depends what you call "gaming".

    Studio XPS 16 had 4670, 565v, 5730. You could play games.

    XPS M1330 had different versions too, one had Intel GMA HD, with Core 2 Duo ~2.2GHz (which wouldn't affect gaming anyway). Now you could play games but not at 1600x900 or better.
     
  46. p53

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    @notebook303

    actually, gaming laptop is defined by 2 main components only - high-end CPU (processor) and high-end GPU (graphics card).
    these will need good cooling system to sustain system functionality.
    all the rest (like good quality screen, good sound quality, and so on) are additional welcome details.
    what defines high-end CPU or GPU?
    I guess there is no strict definition for that - different CPUs and GPUs are better or worse only compared with each other.
    this finally defines what type of games you'll be able to play - less demanding, average, or very demanding.
    so, laptops are better or worse (with regard to gaming capabilities) only compared with each other as well.
     
  47. Phinagle

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    A few years ago, before Dell took over production for Alienware, the XPS M17x0 (no "Studio") was Dell's enthusiast gaming laptop. When Dell started their plans to push Alienware as their own gaming brand, they repositioned the XPS line as the Studio XPS with a role as an entertainment notebook.

    Since some find games entertaining the Studio XPS does have some gaming ability....just not enthusiast level gaming power like the Alienwares.


    The rumored specs, and the dropping of "Studio" from the brand name hints that Dell may be trying to reestablish the XPS line (at least the 17") as a higher performance gaming rig.
     
  48. notebook303

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    Thanks Guys! Your responses helped clear up my confusion.

    Phinagle,

    enthusiast level gaming notebook, yeah that's the term I should have used when I said gaming machines.

    best regards
     
  49. nomoredell

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    gaming laptop? is there a better one than dell xps m1730? the one sold with wow on the cover.
    i never owned any alienware computers, but are they any where close to m1730's peformance?
     
  50. mrbee33

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    umm ya they are, especially considering the xps m1730 is like 3 years old now. it uses outdated tech, that although still high end, does not compare to the high end recent tech. so yes, alienware offers much more powerful laptops than an m1730
     
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