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    [NEWS] Studio XPS 15 and XPS 17 !!

    Discussion in 'Dell XPS and Studio XPS' started by fr0x, Sep 14, 2010.

  1. Ichinenjuu

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    It's going to be sold this week? :confused:
     
  2. ZippoMan

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    Nearly identical to the current line of Studio XPS laptops except a different video card and one USB 3.0 port :D
     
  3. ZippoMan

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    21st. Less than 7 days away.
     
  4. kashing92

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    What do you guys think about the 2GB GPU RAM promise eh?
     
  5. ZippoMan

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    All the HP Envy GPUs are 1GB. I highly doubt the XPS will be 2GB.
     
  6. p53

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    the single GPU with 2GB RAM is currently only GTX 480M.
    I doubt that they will put this GPU even in XPS 17.
    I doubt as well that they are going to use NVIDIA's 2 GPUs in SLI, each with 1GB of RAM.
    the best we can wait for XPS 17 is a single GTX 460M with 1.5 GB of RAM, IMHO.
     
  7. Gloomy

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    What kind of performance difference would 2GB bring though? Maybe a bit more FPS if you have AA on? But these aren't exactly the type of computers that are dedicated gaming machines..
     
  8. kashing92

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    Well, we mentioned earlier that 2 or 3 GB GPUs are unlikely.

    But it is possible to put 2GB in a GT 4xxM, is it not?

    Of course if probably might not increase performance by much.

    But the Dell person did tell me it would be 2GB. Maybe the Dell person just did an online search? Ridiculous. That's why I was asking if you guys thought it was possible that Dell would do such a thing.
     
  9. JKleiss

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    When they say 3/4GB they probably just mean this...

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  10. Gloomy

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    I brought that up. Apparently it stated dedicated memory in the spec sheet.
     
  11. ZippoMan

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    Anyone know the answer to this? :confused:
     
  12. Razor2

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    It is quite possible that they will offer multiple cards for the notebooks:

    XPS 15 with the 425M as base and 445M as option.
    XPS 17 with the 445M as base and 460M as option.

    This would enable them to offer the new XPS line as a replacement for both the Studio 15,17 and the SXPS16.
    They essentially have to offer some muscle from both of them, because they need something to compete with the 15",17" offerings currently on the market, and the 425M is too meager even compared to the 5650...notebooks with a 6650 will eat it alive for 200-300€ less.
     
  13. Phinagle

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    It still probably means what JKleiss said. If this were a real return of the XPS it might've meant SLI.

    In both those cases though it would be wrong to indicate 2GB or 3GB of dedicated VRAM.
     
  14. seeker_moc

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    The 435 is similar to the 5650 and 5730, and the 445 is close to both the 5830 and 5850. I just noticed that HP is no longer offering the Envy 15 on their website anymore. Perhaps they're going to see a revision soon as well. I still think 445 for the XPS 15 and 460 for the XPS 17 should be Dell's target, as a newer generation laptop should be faster than the previous one, and although the 435 is very close to the 5730, it's not faster. But then again, it may not be possible, as the new Nvidia chips run hotter/more power hungry than the current gen ATI ones, so it might not be feasible to fit the 445 into a slim 15" frame. Perhaps we really will need to wait for a possible update to the ATI 6xxx chips and Sandy Bridge before it's worth buying another XPS.
     
  15. Riddhy916

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    question is when they are releasing? during sandy bridge time?
     
  16. guapper

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    .thursday.
     
  17. p53

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    if that's true is it possible for this to happen only in India and France, and not here, in the US? :D
     
  18. notebook303

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    One USB 3.0 port, I was hoping for 2 USB 3.0 ports.
     
  19. seeker_moc

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    All specs are rumor and conjecture until they are officially released by Dell. Hopefully, that won't be too much longer.
     
  20. poiuytre

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    Dell keeps refusing to disclose the specs. So damn secretive.

    Anybody know anything please post it immediately.

    Dying to know the specs - maybe it's better to purchase a Studio XPS 16. After all USB 3.0 would be the only "improvement".

    Otherwise, I'll have to wait even longer, till Sandybridge / ATI laptops come out. Already gone a couple months without a laptop.

    I am open to other brands but Dell has the most reliable / actual warranty. Most other brands just don't stick to their promises.
     
  21. Riddhy916

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    this thursday? you guys sure from where you got the confirmation ?
     
  22. poiuytre

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    The date (October 21) is speculative, because it has been mentioned to customers a few times, and we have been told repeatedly the release is "late October. We can only wait.
     
  23. Theprom

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    well i think oct 21 is the date.Right now I m under replacement process of m1330 in india.I submitted my m1330 on oct 3 and yesterday when I checked the status---my order was cancelled.When i inquired it with my rep,he told that all existing 1645(i was going to get this) orders are cancelled and now i will get the new one instead(i think xps 15).He told he knew the specs but its highly confidential .But one thing he was emphasizing was that the new system is really good and better than 1645.Hope it gets a 445m+optimus! fingers crossed!
     
  24. Theprom

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    btw this the the first product that is launching in india b4 states.I think dell US will revise it with SB cpu update.And if it is so then i will be screwed!!
     
  25. URPradhan

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    Why the hell someone will buy this new XPS in India when SB launch is imminent.
     
  26. ZippoMan

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    How are you screwed? You didn't buy a new XPS let alone an XPS16.
     
  27. Theprom

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    Screwed in the sense not getting SB notebook.But its to be understood -i didnt even shell out a penny.Kudos to dell warranty!I am not complaining,just mentioning!Can we get back to the topic i.e xps 15 & 17 coz i m very curious about it!Btw i did drop my jaw when i saw 2gb and 3gb VRAM on these new units!
     
  28. Theprom

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    Hey pradhan.Read my post carefully.I am not buying it,i m getting it as free replacement and i think i will be a jerk to not accept it!
     
  29. parthg

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    Ya i do think that aswell.

    When the i7 processors were released in Q4 2009. The booking started in oct 2009 but the customers start to get the laptops by mid Dec.

    So i guess the SB processors wont be available in india before March atleast.
     
  30. p53

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    @ Theprom
    well i was referring to user p53.As he told that it will only be available in india.
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    did I? are you sure? :D
    here is what I said -
    so, no confirmation from my side - just question. :)
    I asked that because all the info (rumors, actually) about these hush-hush laptops comes either from France, or - India, and absolutely nothing - from the US, where Dell headquarters is based (Round Rock, Texas). that's why - big grin at the end of my sentence.
     
  31. guapper

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    Could it be a worldwide release comming thursday?

    conversation on LesDelliens

    Thursday may turn out interresting. :)

    Doesn't Intel have any press conferences this week?
     
  32. NoobKillerSM

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    Hah I was just going to buy M15x but i looks like I will hold on those 4 days. I personally hope it will look more like the old M1530, or at least with some aluminum what do you think xD?
     
  33. p53

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    are they going to just put these laptops on their website for sale without any official announcement before that?
    I just don't get what is the meaning of hiding this info for so long?
    My only thought is that they want to sell all the Studio XPS 16 still left in their stores.
     
  34. Cin'

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    So potential news this week then? Nice....


    Cin...
     
  35. poiuytre

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    Hope it looks like the XPS M1330, but black instead of silver/gray!

    That design was really cool - the notebook really failed though.
     
  36. poiuytre

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    I hear the date is planned to be 22 OCT, that makes sense.

    But they are closely guarding the specifications. Before this it worked - getting everybody interested. Until it was leaked that GT 425M would be its primary GPU and you can see half the people never came back to this thread. Good job Dell.
     
  37. Bronsky

    Bronsky Wait and Hope.

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    Wow 3.9 lbs laptop. Nice.

    Thanks for post!

    OMG do you think that is the new design? To be honest, the front looks very bad, not sharp enough like the Studio XPS, and the rounded ends terrible. The keyboard part is just ugly. But the screen is above the back! There is no blockage!

    Ugh, GT 435M? GAY. I am terribly disappointed and will have to wait for the Sandy Bridge/ATI update.

    And GT420/425M for XPS 14. And GT445M for XPS 17. I sure as hell do not want a 17.3 inch.

    Damn.
     
  39. Ichinenjuu

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    The specs seem pretty good, but the computers look a little clunky just from those small pictures. :\

    It kind of resembles a Mac in some ways. The "in" thing seems to be to create Mac look-alikes (see HP).
     
  40. killaz05

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    I noticed it says that the 3GB GPU is not available with the i7. What's up with that? I would think they would put more than just a 900p screen on the XPS 17. I think they look awesome. I am excited.
     
  41. anodize

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    prolly psu limitation?
     
  42. poiuytre

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    I don't know. You guys think a 2GB (if at all) GT 435M is worth it?

    GT 435M is supposed to be just under or at the level of HD 5730, but it is definitely going to produce more heat.

    Design positive is the vent/screen structure, negative is the ugly look.

    LOL at 720p. Specs are practically useless, as they are the same in all laptops of this size nowadays. Only factors such as GPU and screen resolution matter.
     
  43. mrbee33

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    i think its just a mistake, doubt theyd give the 15 a FHD and not give it to the 17 (which needs it more). doesnt make sense.
     
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    We haven't seen that design before, right? Looks like that might be it. So far I'm not impressed.
     
  46. Gloomy

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    For those that don't know, the Studio 17 had an option for an excellent display made by AUO. Dell called it B+RG. Now the 15 inch XPS gets one labeled likewise? That's cool. I wouldn't be surprised if the XPS 17 inherits the Studio 17 panel, and that's even cooler.

    I'm not sure how good the competition's displays are at the moment, but I feel as if Dell was really lacking the RGBLED. If the XPS 15 display turns out to be as good as its Studio 17 sibling, that won't be an issue anymore.
     
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    The design looks like a disastrous mix of Latitude, Vostro, Inspiron, and XPS.

    They got the "no longer Studio" part right.

    Since all the GT400M cards are likely to be little global warmers I really hope there's 445 for XPS 15 otherwise it ain't worth it. And by the looks of the specs it isn't.
     
  49. Droko G.

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    hey guys
    i understand u are excited about new release
    but is this an all new design , new hardware, new motherboard
    does that mean new problems?, shake down cruze is ok for early adopters and bad computer guys and gals
    but i am a nubee (can you spell virgin)
    Id love to get graphics upgrade but am leaning towards Dell Outlet Studio 15
    with i7-720, 1333 Mhz ram and a ATI Ratheon 5470 GPU

    want some game muscle but $1000 bucks is my budget and I think this will be Oh Kaayyy

    so whadoyouthink??
    let me have it!!

    THANKS
     
  50. poiuytre

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    Problems? Climate change in the chassis is the biggest concern.

    For US$1000 or more Studio 15 isn't worth it - especially if you are looking for light gaming.
     
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