[NEWS] Studio XPS 15 and XPS 17 !!

10/18/2010 11:18:36AM SAMIR: "i read on few forums that Dell is launching new XPS series as current series studios XPS got some heating or throtlling issues"

10/18/2010 11:19:14AM Agent (Ishan K): "It's not that the current XPS 16 has some problem, it's that we are going to replace Studio laptops with XPS"

10/18/2010 11:19:22AM Agent (Ishan K): "So we no longer will have Studio 14 15 and 17"

10/18/2010 11:19:28AM Agent (Ishan K): "We right now have no Studio 17"

10/18/2010 11:19:42AM Agent (Ishan K): "By the end of October new XPS 14 15 and 17 will be launched."

10/18/2010 11:19:54AM Agent (Ishan K): "There is no problem with the current version of XPS 16 as well."

10/18/2010 11:20:03AM SAMIR: "ok is it worth to wait for new series to come?"

10/18/2010 11:20:06AM Agent (Ishan K): "Rather I would say XPS 16 is the best performance laptop we ever had."

10/18/2010 11:20:25AM Agent (Ishan K): "The prices would be the almost the same as we have now for XPS 16."

10/18/2010 11:20:44AM Agent (Ishan K): "As you want the size to be 15 to 17 then the current one is perfect."

10/18/2010 11:24:28AM SAMIR: "ok tell me the specifications of new XPS 17 if it got a full HD screen."

10/18/2010 11:24:52AM Agent (Ishan K): "I am sorry but as it's not launched the specifications are not yet released."

10/18/2010 11:27:05AM Agent (Ishan K): "The new line of XPS laptops will have many upgradable options and these look great."



lets hope for the best......but the designs posted for new XPS are not good...

 

Check this out, looks like the pics of the xps 15...

Inspiron 15R Alloy Edition Laptop Details | Dell

 

yes....and also better than the posted images for XPS.how can dell make XPS less attractive than inspirons if the posted images are real and also the tech specs are very near to current XPS...........

 

I seriously doubt these GPU's will have more than 1GB.
That must be some typo error, only the power hungry 480M GTX has 2GB's.

 

i dont know what went wrong with dell design team.This time they really screwed it up?

 

Don't get all the hate for the design... I think especially the 15" looks nice, I am SO GLAD they didn't put a 10-key on it like they did the Studio 15R. And why all the 4xx-series hate? Those mobile parts have been lauded for FINALLY upping the anty in the realm of low to mid-range GPUs. The 415M, for instance, is like 3x as fast as the 310M, which was the same as the 210M, which was the same as... you get the idea. Same how the Radeon 5470 is just as awful as the 4570 which was just as awful as... etc etc.

 

I don't hate the design, but it does seem almost like a step back from the Studio XPS 16. It looks clunkier and that part sticking out in the back makes no sense. Additionally, the loss of the slot-load drive is a disappointment (maybe they'll have that as an option?)

Personally I find Sony VAIOs to be the best looking computers out there, but their crappy specs are going to prevent me from ever getting one.

 

Vaio Z is hella sexy, that's for certain.

As for the part sticking out the back, it's hardly surprising. All of Dell's new laptops have had it, part of their new design language I suppose. I especially hope the extended battery option (if there is one) sticks out the back and not the bottom like on Latitudes / Precisions.

I have to wonder, though... why is the dual-core i7 NEVER available? i7 620M and now I think they have the i7 640M... that's the chip I want.

 

I work for Dell, and I say the new line is not going to replace the Studio XPS 16, it's replacing the old Studio line.
The Studio Line consists of 14,15 and 17, which would be perfect for replacement for the upcoming Studio XPS 14, 15 and 17

 

Why replace them now when the Sandy Bridge platform is coming out in probably about 10 weeks? Going to replace them again at that time?

 

But it says "XPS" on the screen bezel...

 

yes it got a XPS logo because.....dell is replacing studio laptops with xps series........
read my post on page 41.(the conversation with dell agent)

 

And so are they replacing XPS laptops with anything?

 

may be in 2011 ,but for now they are only replacing studio series with XPS.

 

I'm not sure about that.

RGB-LED on the 15" = Studio XPS to me. A regular "Studio" replacement wouldn't have such a good screen.

 

I'm with you on this T L . I think these new designs look great! I'm especially keen on the 17.

I can understand complaining on one or two aspects, since it's pretty much impossible to please everyone. But some comments seem way over the top.

And of course, upgrades will be available, dependant on the size of ones wallet.

I've been on the sidelines for months waiting to puchase and I will definitely be one of the first in line for these new XPSs. Can't wait!!

 

GT 445M has an option for a 192-bit bus so it's gotta have either 768MB, or 1.5GB of VRAM. They could put 3GB on it too but honestly 768MB is more than enough and would produce less heat.

More than likely it's 1.5GB on card with another 1.5GB of allocated system memory.

If you don't want to think of it as an upgrade to the Studio line you can consider it a downgrade of the XPS line.

 

eh, for me MacBook Pro is the best looking laptop, with crappy GPU as well.
and - no, Dell's new XPS laptops do not look like MBP at all.
I just wonder what to buy now - inspiron-like XPS 17, MBP 17 (but not untill apple puts i5-580M or i7-640M in it), or - wait for Envy 17 3D?

 

The new Studio XPS Series will be updated again, with the newer CPU's just like when it transitioned from Core 2 to Core 'i' Series.

 

Not sure what happened at that time.

Do you mean a transition like Studio 17 -> XPS 17 or like Studio 1737 -> Studio 1747?

Thanks for responding.

 

The Studio XPS 16 had Core2Duo CPUs when it first came out. Maxed out with the T9900.

 

I think I have just sorted out all the setup of the new line of notebooks by Dell.

Low-End and Mainstream as it was in the past = Inspiron
Mid-End as the flagship notebooks of Dell is now Alienware = XPS
High End as after the aquireation of Alienware = AW

I am talking about before 2007, Dell had only two lines of notebook, Inspiron as mainstream and XPS as high end. Alienware came as the game changer.

Studio line of notebooks are EOL and End of Studio Series too.

I can say officially XPS has lost its charm in the eyes of Dell, Now its all about the Alienware!

 

Why can't they use ATI 5730 on them...argh...NO NEED TO GO TO NVIDIA AT THIS TIME...

 

oh, i got it now. the current studio xps 16 is considered the high end, regular studio is mid range, inspiron is low end. the replacement of regular studio has mid range specs but still carrys old xps logo?
i guess i will have to hold on to my xps16 a little bit longer than usual sine there isnt any news on oled laptop display or ips display.
dell must be having trouble selling RGB led screens , comsumers are notoriously bad when it comes to technology.

 

Why not?
Besides being a bit more expensive the new Nvidia GPU's do tesselation much better.
I don't cars either way and always go with the best available GPU at the time.

 

Interesting news. Is there also a new Inspiron 14R coming soon?

 

Isn't 5730 MUCH better than 425M?

Edit:^^ Maybe not MUCH better but...argh. I want some 425M gameplay on YOUTUBE.

 

This thread is hilarious. Nothing has changed here, at all. Everyone is so quick to judge and enforce their personal wishes on what the update is/should be, and if it isn't - it's bad or its a crappy laptop/

It took 42 pages for you to figure it out that these are not replacing the studio xps. All the literature and pics and leaks I've seen about them always just said "XPS" - but like always it was assumed it was the replacement for "Studio XPS" because thats what the fanboys wanted and if they want it that means its true.


Rumors always start the same way on this forum...The wants/needs/ and pessimism of the uniformed.


This thread needs to be moved to the Studio sub-forum, not here in the STUDIO XPS forum.

Also I love how people are already complaining about these new laptops and their specs being the same as or inferior to their current studio xps, yet they don't even realize that these are not what's replacing it.

 

We're going for NVIDIA because of the great automatic GPU switching technology, called Optimus which can result in greater battery life depending on use.
Take note that the new series will remain under the mid-range category, so don't expect too much.
If you're looking for high end, I suggest Alienware.

 

Ahh...I forgot about the Optimus Prime...I mean Optimus tech...Well, then I guess I will wait a week and see the price before jumping on Sager bus...

 

Do you suppose they'll be available with only the on-CPU GPUs or are they all going to come with Optimus and a separate GPU?

 

So, I just need to have this clarified. I am looking to get a new laptop by the end of 2010. The XPS 14, 15, 17 are not meant to replace the Studio XPS 16, correct?

When the XPS 14, 15, 17 come out, does this mean that the Studio XPS 16 will continue to be available? Is there a new version of the Studio XPS 16 coming out or an entirely new laptop?

Sorry, I thought this thread would answer questions, but instead it's just created many more. I just fear getting a laptop only to have a better one come out really soon. I suppose that's just how it is in the technology world...

 

Ichinenjuu: Wait until Jan/Feb of next year (which is not that far apart from your expected time of purchase). New Intel CPUs and ATI GPUs are coming out for notebooks. Dell might replace/upgrade their XPS 16 (if it still exists) by then.

 

Personally, I think that making them entirely out of aluminium is a good choice, gives them a premium feel, and like the Inspiron R line I hope this new XPS line will look better in person, along the lines of a macbook, hp envy or dm3, which are all really nice looking machines. Dunno why there would still be a vent on the side with the new hinge design though, seems like the whole point would've been to have the exhaust shooting up the back of the screen. The 15 will probably be my next laptop though, as in the UK Dell are pretty much the only brand which sells 1080p 15" laptops. And I really like the nvidia optimus switching because of the battery life savings, but I'm not a pc gamer so I guess that's why ditching Ati doesn't bother me. Stupid decision by dell not waiting for sandy bridge though, might have to hold out till then.

 

Are you kidding? The Studio XPS 16 is a very dated platform that is due for replacement. It's two years old. The leather accents look kind of silly compared to the single-piece aluminum cases that are fashionable. It's thicker and heavier than competing laptops in its class. And Dell's been scaling back the options it sells on the Studio XPS 16, which means that model is at the end of its life.

The bells and whistles available on some of these XPS models, such as RGBLED screens and BD players indicate that this is Dell's high-end.

Dell may be simplifying its line; it no longer needs a Studio and a Studio XPS designation, since the Studio XPS line has been whittled down to one model. It seems likely that the Inspirons will be the integrated-graphics laptops and the XPS will be the discrete graphics laptops.

Considering that the images are pre-announcement and leaked from non-Dell sites, they may be mock-ups or placeholder images. Dell may want to hold the design back for its own announcement; it's apparently had problems with people pulling pre-release images out of non-public places on its website before.

In any case, the new XPS will be thinner and lighter and offer better battery life in the same price and power bracket as the studio XPS.

 

That's what I thought as well, that these new laptops are a merger of the Studio and Studio XPS lines, rather than only replacing the Studio line. It seems to be replacing both the Studio and the Studio XPS lines.

 

How does the Radeon HD 5850 compare to the GeForce GTS 445M?

 

Dell has never offered top-of-the-line GPUs outside the alienware line. But the top-end graphics hardware usually needs lots of power and it usually creates lots of heat. The AW laptops have historically been heavy laptops that cater to a high-end LAN party niche.

I have every expectation that the XPS line will be Dell's answer to the class of high-end bells-and-whistles media/design laptops like HP's Envy and the Apple MacBook Pro. These computers have discrete graphics and are acceptable for most games, but they never have high-end GPUs, because they're thin, light, and put a premium on battery life.

 

5850 will be much better than 445M for sure in performance. The only thing 445 has over 5850 is the Optimus tech. for power saving.

5850 is just a lower clocked version of 5870...hope that helps.

 

HP Envy 15/17 have 5830/5850 GPUs, which way outclass these new low-mid end Nvidia GPUs. The new 'XPS' will compete with the HP DV6/7T SE, not the Envy.

 

That doesn't seem to be true at all. The 445 GT seems to be similar to the 5850, but with better power consumption. The 5850 draws a lot of power, generates a lot of heat and is only appropriate for larger laptops. It was a higher-end graphics solution for enthusiasts when it launched, but the high-end NVidia 480 is apparently blowing the 5870 out of the water, and Nvidia's Q4 upper midrange cards should compete with year-old AMD cards. The Dell XPS 15 should probably compete with the Envy 15, or cost less.

The Envy 17, by the way, is a 7.2 pound laptop, nearly nine pounds with the power brick, and it runs an hour and a half on a battery charge. Dell's 17-inch will hopefully be more portable.

 

Just how important is the GPU? Would the average non-gamer such as myself be satisfied with the NVIDIA?

 

You will be completely satisfied.

 

The suspected specs for the XPS 15 is the 425m (slower than the 4670), not the 445m. If it was the 445, then it would be replacing the Studio XPS 16, not the Studio 15. Also, from most reports so far, the 5xxx chips run cooler / use less power than the 4xxm.

 

i saw the pix on engadget, it sure looks ugly.

 

Rofl are you serious?

The studio xps lines was the original merger of their simpler studio lines with their high-end XPS line.

Now you're saying they're merging the merger?

ermmm...Did you actually read my post? I said nothing about its quality, its design being dated or its chassis. I just said whatever this thread is about, its not about a STUDIO XPS replacement. Thumbs up for reading. ermm..Actually do read any of the posts in the past 42 pages? I picked 3 random pages and found all 3 times " THIS IS NOT REPLACING STUDIO XPS, ITS REPLACING STUDIO"
If a brick gets thrown at your head, do you notice?

P.S. It may be a dated "platform" and if by platform I hope you mean case/design, because its specs and bells and whistles are by no means dated. And looking at the specs of the STUDIO replacement, its just the same as what I got now. I got slot-loading blu-ray, you get one useless USB3.0 port.

hardware wise, the 1647 is pretty NOT-dated. And as far as design/unibody/leather accents. That's a matter of personal opinion. Having leather doesn't make my machine any less slower than a machine with a unibody design. What a silly argument.

 

The Studio XPS 16 is a two-year old model. The components have been updated, but the case and the power consumption are lagging HP and Apple. It seems pretty clear that this model is reaching the end of its life, and it's fairly clear that whatever Dell is getting ready to launch is the replacement for the Studio, the Studio XPS, and possibly the Alienware M15.

 

The XPS 15 might have a 425m with a 435 as an upgrade. The 425 makes sense for the 14 inch, which will probably weigh about four pounds and will hopefully get seven hours on a battery charge. I'd like to see more graphics hardware available in the XPS 15.

The 445m apparently consumes a lot of power and is designed for 17-inch laptops.

OEMs like Clevo and Sager usually have the most powerful graphics hardware, and sacrifice battery life and portability for it. Dell's goal with the XPS is not to give you something you can lug to LAN parties to play Crysis on ultra settings; it's to provide decent game performance while competing with the MacBook Pro on portability and battery life, and beating Apple on cost.

 

What many have ignored is the fact that the GT 420, 425, 435, 445M are generally weaker than the HD 5730, and likely consume more power - only the 445M would be better than it.

The ideal GPU would be HD 5830, slightly up from 5730 but low on power.

Claims that this XPS is replacing the Studio models could only be half true, because most people say it is replacing "Studio XPS", and Studio's are much further than any existing or new XPS (except those 13 inch XPS which had Intel Graphics).

 

I am glad this info leaked today. I was really hoping that when I first heard of there being an XPS 14 we would finally one again have a 14" model with a 900p display but sadly it looks like once again that will not be the case. I guess I will pull the trigger on a refurb Envy 14 while I can still get the 900p display version. For the life of me I can't understand why no one will at least make this an option but at least I was able to pick up an Envy with one before they were all gone.