ATi HD 5730 now available for Studio XPS 16

Yeah I did too. How well can you run the game?

 

fred2028, do you mind updating???

 

i just called for a mobo replacement and they wouldnt change my 4670 to a 5730

 

I wouldn't expect them to since they always have plenty of old boards.

 

Unbelievable, my saga with dell continues. The tech came to replace the mobo, after he left i played a little borderlands to see if it was fine, i experienced throttling for the first time in months so i checked the temps. 101 degrees C on the gpu!!! i call dell and guess what, theyre getting me another xps 1645, but now theyre trying to give a downgraded screen. I told them i was fine with the replacement, with a 5730 after all, if they got me the 1080p screen. still waiting on the phone to hear ther decision.

 

Hello dude, I dont know if this will help you. But my 4670 in my German Studio XPS never had any issues.
If that processor is important for you, I would say go for it.
But if it was me in your position, I would always want to get the best video card possible.
Thinking about it, back then I was one of the guys who waited for the old 3650 to get replaced with the much better 4670. And I am lucky to have waited as up to this day, I see that the 4670 - eventhough renamed is still their standart option in any studio16xps.

 

Any one with news in UK/Europe on whne we will be getting the 5730 instead of the 4670?. I am really getting bored of waiting for so long.

Maybe I should just go for it... just in case they get rid of RGBLED?. Iam not going to be playing games anyway, but noone has really said if there is any advantage as far as battery life goes(...rather than paper specs)

css_jay99

 

The difference between these 2 GPUs are barely noticeable. Talking to users who have used/had both of these, they say they can't really notice much if any difference between the 2. The 5730 is lower voltage, but it doesn't increase the battery life much. If you have a good deal, then I would say just go for it.

 

I don't know if I'd say that. Almost all people with the throttling problem have the 4670. Seeing someone complain about throttling with a 5730 is rare. And I think the 9W savings of the 5730 over the 4670 would be noticeable.

The 5730 is also about 20% faster (on paper according to AMD), though I think it's more like 5% in real life.

 

The 5730 runs like 15c cooler lol. It's a big difference.

 

ya i can attest to this. i got my replacement xps 1645 for my previous 1645 today (with a 4670) and while playing borderlands my 4670 was usually 83-86C. today playing borderlands my 5730 was 68C max! I was very surprised and happy.

 

I like hardware monitor. CPUID - System & hardware benchmark, monitoring, reporting

 

i wasnt following news about xps laptops and i dont really have time to search forum right now, can someone tell me do new dell laptops with 5730 still have throttling problems and did dell enable switchable graphichs on arrandale cpus so users can now sitch between igp and 5730?

 

The 5730 is throttle-free for the most part, the vast majority of people w/ throttling have the 4670. I've never gotten my 5730 to throttle, and I sure have tried.

No, still no switchable graphics, sorry.

 

thanks, seeker

 

What exactly is causing you to throttle (what games/situation do you notice it in)? Also, are you sure it's your GPU throttling, and not your CPU? What are your temps while under load? What BIOS are you running? Do you have the 90W or the 130W power adapter? Have you tried any heat-reduction tricks, like upgrading the thermal paste or removing the dust filter?

 

That's wierd, I can run Furmark all day and not have the GPU throttle, though I can get the CPU to throttle with Prime95 + Furmark if I try hard enough. But as long as it doesn't throttle during 'real world' usage, there's no problem. I think Ogrec was more interested if it would throttle easily while gaming like the 4670 would, not if it would throttle while you're actively trying to make it throttle.

 

Based on the Throttlestop logs, it is your CPU that's throttling. You could try switching to the A09 BIOS, it seems to help some people with throttling. It doesn't seem to be too bad though, your CPU throttles less than a minute at a time, then jumps right back to normal.

To see if your GPU is throttling as well, download GPU-Z. It has a logging function. If you see the GPU frequency drop from 650 to 300, then the GPU is throttling (while gaming/ running FurMark, it may also drop down to 300 when idle which is normal). techPowerUp! :: Download TechPowerUp GPU-Z v0.4.6

 

Actually, what you said at first was:

But regardless, in the 13 min your CPU was running at 100% load, you were throttling for a total of 1.5 min, and the throttling was spread out, never more than 33 seconds at once. I agree that it shouldn't throttle at all, but it's really not that bad. Did you notice the throttling during the gameplay?

With minimal throttling like that, there may be a way to fix it. Could you hit the 'temp' button at the bottom of throttlestop so that it records the temp so we can see what temps your throttling at?

Also, is throttlestop active while you're logging? I don't know why, but I've had my CPU throttle while running throttlestop, but as soon as I disable throttlestop my CPU stops throttling. I think you should be able to still use throttlestop to log without it actively 'affecting' your CPU.

Have you tried BIOS A09? That seems to help some people.

Also, I don't understand why you're getting pissy with me, I'm just trying to help you with your throttling problem.

 

That's not what I meant. I meant that just because you have throttlestop open doesn't mean it's active.

Sounds like you got a pretty good deal, what are you complaining about?

Where did I defend Dell? I just know that I have a very similar system to you, and experience no throttling, and am happy with my machine. Plus, the majority of people with our setup (quad-core + 5730) have no problems, though there are exceptions.

I believe I said

. It does bother me, but your symptoms are so mild I'm pretty sure we could fix it if you gave it a chance instead of just complaining.

It bothers you so much, but you are unwilling to try a simple firmware change to fix it? Besides, according to you it's not your 5730 that's throttling, so your point is kind of irrelevant.

No, what I'm saying is that I've had my CPU throttle with throttlestop active, and when I deactivated it, the throttling stopped, based on throttlestop's own readings. Maybe throttlestop is to blame, maybe not, I'm just telling you what I've experienced, just like you're telling us what you've experienced.

I agree with you, Unclewebb has done a great deal for the community, I've never said anything against him. I never even said for sure that it's the program's fault, I was just telling you what I saw, and giving you a suggestion to try to help you along.

As you seem to be more inclined to complain instead of actually doing something to fix your problem, and are starting to sound like a troll, at the risk of this becoming a flame war, I'm just going to stop responding to you.

 

LOL, I'm going to have to save that pic for later.

 

Not quite. DELL designed some BIOS updates with either GPU throttling, CPU throttling, or both. A09 has no GPU throttling, but does feature CPU throttling. This BIOS is recommended for people with heat issues or the 4670 GPU because CPU throttling can be curtailed with Throttlestop, whereas GPU throttling can't.

If your system has a 5730 and no heat issues, A11 is best because it features GPU throttling alone. Normally this wouldn't be recommended, but the exception here is that the 5730 doesn't get close to the 87c throttle threshold under most circumstances. This means that you don't need a program running to use the system as you like.

 

Well, as I just looked up some things about the 5730 its roughly around 9% faster than my card. And since the notebook will cost around 50% more than mine did - I dont see any reason to upgrade anytime soon.
Maybe got to wait for a Ati 6666 first