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    Coming Soon: Xps M1530!

    Discussion in 'Dell XPS and Studio XPS' started by DoubleBlack, Oct 5, 2007.

  1. zadillo

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    I still wonder about this though; if the MBP can handle the 8600M GT in its 5.4 pounds 1" thick chassis, it seems like this new XPSM1530 should be able to handle it as well.

    I really wonder though about the 4lb's figure Engadget is mentioning. If that IS true, it might explain why it can't have anything better than an 8600M GS.

    A 4lb 15.4" laptop with an 8600M GS would be a pretty incredible feat; I still wonder about that though. How do you make something larger than the XPSM1330 that weighs almost the same?
     
  2. link1313

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    wow this thing looks absolutly amazing, if it actually weighs only 4 pounds I will be blown away.
     
  3. DellFan24

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    Hmm...interesting. I've been waiting for Dell to come out with a m1530 for some time now. It is very dissapointing, however, that such specifications (including the graphics card) are below the standards that the XPS line was created for. I love the design (very similar to the m1330) and I applaude the light weight. I am curious as to see how things will turn out come mid-November.
     
  4. Redline

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    Yea. It doesn't work. Thats gotta be a typo on Engadget's part.

    And Apple has had a couple of generations to work on the cooling system, whereas Dell would have to just run through it in one generation. I doubt they can afford another trial and error thing like the colours on the M1330 and Inspirons. In the first Core Duo MBPs, I think Apple deleted the cooling system to make it thinner. :rolleyes:
     
  5. link1313

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    If it is a GDDR3 8600gs I wouldn't be complaining at all (it would be about the same if not faster than the 8600GT in the 1520).

    But they definitely focused on the right areas; battery life, weight, style. This laptop won't be as unique as the xps1330 and xps1730 are, but if those three categories live up to their expectations I will be impressed.
     
  6. lordnikon

    lordnikon Notebook Evangelist

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    x2........
     
  7. Cam_86

    Cam_86 Notebook Evangelist

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    Honestly, i couldnt care less about weight in a 15.4"(or even 14.1") laptop provided it was not a back-breaking 7+ lbs. Personally, I think if weight is THAT important to you, you should be looking at 12.1 or 13.3 laptop. I cant imagine there is a large chunk of potential buyers who are looking for a laptop with a footprint that big, and have reservations about the weight.

    Id rather they bulk it out and put a 8700gt in it. Also wish they would use all the extra space at the back(the hinge design is nice for an ultra portable, but with a laptop as big as this one, there really is no GOOD excuse for not putting important ports that are plugged in prior to powering the thing up[VGA, Ethernet, Power, maybe 2 USB ports] in the back to clean up the sides and remove clutter)
     
  8. lordnikon

    lordnikon Notebook Evangelist

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    Who the hell objects to a lighter laptop? Most people are forced to buy smaller screens because of weight savings. Having a light, large screen laptop is the best of both worlds.
    And I don't think Dell wanted the M1530 to be a gamers laptop, more like mid range. The 1730 does the job for the enthusiast.
     
  9. B2TheEYo

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    LMFAO...

    Bravo.. :D
     
  10. Gilliann

    Gilliann Notebook Consultant

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    How on earth do you figure such a thing? the gs has half the stream processors its just an overclocked 8400, although it should have gddr3 but still wont come even close to an 8600gt with gddr2.
     
  11. jaycee

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    Dont quite know why the *****iness about the smaller XPS notebooks not having stellar video performance.

    XPS is just a premium line, premium /= better...just different.

    Not everyone games on a small laptop, especially if they are specifically designed to be a lightweight and offer good battery life.

    If video performance is crucial, there is always the bigger M1730, or you can lug your desktop to Lan parties.

    I think if Dell offeres a 8600GT (which is a possibility due to the larger real estate due to the larger screen for a more robust HSF), that would be more than enough as a mid-range between the the M1330 and the M1530.

    I seriously doubt that it would come in at "about 4lbs". Thats impossibly light for a 15.4.
     
  12. zadillo

    zadillo Notebook Virtuoso

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    Well, you might blame Dell for that - confusing messaging about what the XPS line is/means.

    Dell at least has at times really positioned the XPS as a gaming line, and at other times it seems like it has been positioned more as a general entertainment/premium line relative to their normal machines.

    So I think that you end up with some people confused or maybe expecting too much - in the case of the XPSM1330, I think the confusion is because some people have certain expectations when they hear something is a gaming laptop, but they perhaps don't consider that there's a huge difference between what's possible with a 13" machine and what's possible with a 17" machine.

    -Zadillo
     
  13. link1313

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    Actually your completely wrong:
    A) Its not even based on the same core as the 8400
    B) From all the benchmarks i've seen an 8600GS at 600/700 ties-or-beats an 8600GT at 500/400.

    If you think stream processors make a difference on a seriously memory bandwidth limited card your wrong.
     
  14. meh_cd

    meh_cd Notebook Evangelist

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    And everything I've seen points to the fact that you are wrong. We can go back and forth all day.
     
  15. B2TheEYo

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    How about this,

    why don't you go buy 3 of each system that has a 8600GS and a 8400, then run benchmarks on them side by side all day until you're hearts content. Then we will know because obviously everyone seems to have a different point of view :p
     
  16. Redline

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    The 8600GS is an overclocked 8400GT....Same as how the 8700GT is an overclocked 8600GT. The 8600GS has next to no relation to the lower 8400s though....

    And I think the disappointment in the GPU stems from the fact that their XPS (used to translate to gaming...) line has a less powerful GPU than their consumer and business line of notebooks (Inspiron and Vostro, respectively).
     
  17. Eiden

    Eiden Notebook Guru

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    I've been waiting on a 15" XPS for months. I didn't think it would be revealed so soon after the XPS1730.
     
  18. link1313

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    How about if everyone goes and jumps off a bridge you should also cause everyone is doing it.

    But seriously they are more or less equal. check this out: http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=131334 (just look at the 600/700 speeds, also the drivers were 3 months old).
     
  19. Dragonpet

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    Different point of view, so he WON'T Jump off the bridge after everyone else? :rolleyes:

    I hope they facilitate a better Video Card in the 15'' XPS because that would mean the Vostro line has a chance of upgrade. It doesn't have to be anything spectacular but an update version of 8600m GT , ddr2 to ddr3, will work just fine.
     
  20. BoulderGeek

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    If you want a better, lighter, more stylish 15.4" with an 8600GS, buy a MacBook Pro.
     
  21. zadillo

    zadillo Notebook Virtuoso

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    The MBP has an 8600M GT, not an 8600M GS.

    But if this XPSM1530 is really anything even close to 4 pounds though, it would certainly justify the 8600M GS in it.

    Either way, I'm not sure what the point of your post is. If someone wants a lighter, more stylish 15.4" machine with an 8600M (GS or GT), certainly they could buy an MBP, but it seems like Dell is now going to be offering a viable alternative in the form of the XPSM1530.

    -Zadillo
     
  22. Dragonpet

    Dragonpet Notebook Evangelist

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    I agree, not every one has the ability to drop at least $2000 dollar just for the lowest configuration of MBP, which is still considerably better compare to most of the other 15'' notebooks.
     
  23. zadillo

    zadillo Notebook Virtuoso

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    Yes.... although we'll have to see what the pricing is like on this XPSM1530. The pricing of the XPSM1330 at least doesn't necessarily give me that much confidence that a similarly configured XPSM1530 will be dramatically cheaper than a comparable MBP; but if it is, it could definitely be a good option.

    Or if it really is a 4 pound machine (or frankly, anything under 5 pounds), it would justify having a price similar to the MBP anyway.
     
  24. roor

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    extensive use of carbon fiber
     
  25. zadillo

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    I'm not really seeing that from the photos though. It looks like the build and materials are almost identical to the XPSM1330.

    -Zadillo
     
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    Am I to assume from these images that the marvel of backlit typography is to be the sole privilege of 'the ugly sister'? :rolleyes:

    What a waste of a genuinely worthwhile feature. Again.
     
  30. Redline

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    The sim card slot is for the WWAN, I think.

    Its not gonna be under 5lbs, I think. Probably around 5.5, like the MBP. Hopefully, it will be cheaper...

    Its obvious that they are using the same screen as the MBP, the only res offered with LED backlighting is WXGA+, which is coincidentally the same as the MBP. I wonder if that means they will offer a matte screened version of that as an option as well....
     
  31. tEfLoN

    tEfLoN Notebook Guru

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    heh well i guess you need to leave one feature out if you want 'the ugly sister' to sell ;)

    not that i don't want 'backlit typography' :)
     
  32. kkl1014

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    Nice, but it'll be certainly out of my budget.
     
  33. lambchops468

    lambchops468 Notebook Evangelist

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    BUT THE DRIVE ISn't replacable........

    i take pride in self-user service......(save $$, and you can control your quality)
     
  34. DoubleBlack

    DoubleBlack Notebook Deity

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    You could drive down the highway and crash and burn and die, so never get a car the rest of your life because there is a POSSIBILITY of dying. Nothing is 100% quit your *****ing.
     
  35. Redline

    Redline Notebook Prophet NBR Reviewer

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    How often do you replace the DVD drive on your laptop? Or even your desktop? I've never had to do it on ANY of my computers.
     
  36. Commander Wolf

    Commander Wolf can i haz broadwell?

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    Well, both my 500m and D830 have modular media drives, so I tend to swap it with the extra battery reasonably often... but I guess that's kinda besides the point?
     
  37. Divert

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    The pictures look pretty good and it would be amazing if it's only 4 pounds. The 8600M GS is a little disappointing, but the weight would more than make up for that.
     
  38. nonemus

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    or an asus...
     
  39. Redline

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    Only buy an Asus if you don't give a damn about battery life. None of them can break 3 hours, and some of them have battery wear issues on top of that.
     
  40. Matt is Pro

    Matt is Pro I'm a PC, so?

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    I think the m1530 looks awesome, and I would definitely settle for the 8600GS, heck, I'd even take the X3100. I don't game much, I mostly do CPU intensive things.

    With that said, I'd still rather have the m1330, just for the smaller form factor. :)
     
  41. LLavelle

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    Here are the Configuration Details of a Dell M4300 system I just put together. No delays indicated on anything. The weight of M4300 is 7.0 lbs without 2nd HD. Why not get M4300 now ...

    Date 10/8/2007 10:17 PM
    Catalog Number 25 Retail RC974590
    Dell Precision M4300 Intel® Core™ 2 Duo T7800 (2.60GHz, 4M L2 Cache, 800MHz) Dual Core
    M43266 - [ 223-2306 ]

    Operating System Genuine Windows Vista® Ultimate 64-bit, with Media
    VU6E - [ 420-6681 ]

    Operating System Recovery Options PC Restore for Vista (on drive recovery partition)
    PCRSTOR - [ 420-6581 ]

    LCD Panel Options 15.4 IN WIDE WUXGA Anti-Glare LCD Panel (1920 x 1200, Wide Viewing Angle, Contrast ratio 500:1)
    15WUX - [ 310-9104 ]

    Touchpad Options Standard Touchpad
    TPAD - [ 310-9108 ]

    Keyboard Internal English Keyboard
    ENG - [ 310-9110 ]

    Graphics NVIDIA Quadro FX 360M, 512MB Turbo Cache memory (256 dedicated)
    NVQG86 - [ 320-5486 ]

    Memory 4.0GB, DDR2-667MHz SDRAM, 2 DIMMS
    4G2D6 - [ 311-7223 ]

    Wireless LAN (802.11) Intel® 3945 802.11a/g Dual-Band Mini Card
    IPW3945 - [ 430-2379 ]

    Hard Drives 32GB Solid State Hard Drive, 1.8MM
    32DSS - [ 341-5109 ]

    Intel Turbo Memory 1.0GB Intel Turbo Memory
    1GBDFL - [ 341-4793 ]

    Additional Hard Drive 80GB Hard Drive, 9.5MM, 5400RPM
    80D2 - [ 341-4795 ]

    Module Bay Devices 8X DVD+/-RW w/Roxio Creator™/Cyberlink PDVD™
    DVDRW - [ 313-5215 ]

    Floppy Drive Floppy Drive, Internal/External
    FD - [ 340-7307 ]

    Batteries 9 Cell Primary Battery
    9CELLP - [ 312-0529 ]

    AC Adapter 90W A/C Adapter
    90AC - [ 310-7479 ]

    System Documentation Resource DVD - Contains Diagnostics and Drivers for Vista
    RDVD - [ 313-5222 ]

    Carrying Cases Dell Nylon Carrying Case
    LNCC - [ 310-7470 ]

    External Speakers Dell A525 30 Watt 2.1 three piece Stereo Speakers with Subwoofer
    A525 - [ 313-4024 ]

    Installation Services No Onsite System Setup
    NOINSTL - [ 900-9987 ]

    External Mouse Dell Travel Mouse with Bluetooth® technology
    BTTM - [ 310-9156 ]

    Additional Power Cords / AC Adapters Dell Additional Slim 65W Auto/Air/AC Adapter
    SAUAIR2 - [ 310-8984 ]

    Hardware Support Services 3 Year Limited Warranty plus 3 Year NBD On-Site Service
    UI3OS - [ 982-7862983-2330987-3818987-3897 ]
     
  42. praneeth

    praneeth Sanath Jaya Suriya!!!

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    Bump.. any news on the m1530? Looks like the November 7th date might be pushed back? I'm glad I cancelled my m1330 order as this guy would be pretty close to perfect.. hope they are wrong on the screen resolution though.. since this is a 15 inch screen...
     
  43. pstrisik

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    For me, primarily two reasons:

    1. An extra two pounds!
    2. All the nav keys bunched up instead of the vertical column on the right.
     
  44. praneeth

    praneeth Sanath Jaya Suriya!!!

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    What's the M4300 got to do with the M1530 thread? Anyone hear anything new about the M1530 release?
     
  45. shaba230

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    no...i wish though!!!
     
  46. Almightiness

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    isn't the 1730 designed nicely??! :spinny:
     
  47. lordnikon

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    Its ok but I don't like the cheesy lights.
     
  48. greystone

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    Any updates on this? Thoughts on it being available for the holiday season? I'd really like to see the final specs/prices before buying a M1330.
     
  49. checho

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    I'm also waiting for the M1530. Does anybody know what is the official date for its release?

    By the way, Precision M2300 is now available! I'm sure that the M1530 is near...

    Best wishes from Spain...!
     
  50. FooTBall100

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    If they want this out for the Christmas buyers they had better hurry up, especially if the M1330 delivery delays are repeated again, people won't be happy if they order in November for Christmas and receive in January!! Unless the Nov 7th date was nonsense and they're not planning to rush it out for Christmas after all with potential bad press for post Christmas deliveries. They might just wait until mobile Penryn is out in Jan before releasing this and then 6-7 week delays won't be such an issue.

    But then again maybe Dell have learned from the M1330 release and have M1530s already boxed and ready to ship :)
     
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