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    Coming Soon: Xps M1530!

    Discussion in 'Dell XPS and Studio XPS' started by DoubleBlack, Oct 5, 2007.

  1. Rachel

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    Dell are not like Apple they don't keep things under wraps until they release something. I think that some of the issues they have had with the M1330 may made them decide to iron out these problems first before they start rolling out the M1530's.
     
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    RachUK

    So if Dell were to announce this new machine within the next week or so you wouldn't expect them to actually ship units in high volume to people before Christmas? If that's the case then I think that would be good reason to wait until after Christmas to avoid any negative feelings from Christmas buyers, plus a new machine in Jan/Feb time would help give sales a fresh post-Christmas kick. The M1330 will probably get them a lot of sales for Christmas anyway without the need for an M1530. Apple will probably release a new Penryn based MacbookPro @ MWSF in mid-Jan anyway so an M1530 announced around the same time would help Dell take some news column inches away from Apple.

    Out of interest did you actually get your hands on an M1330 before buying one? Do Dell actually have any kiosks outside of the US?
     
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    i saw some pics and its the exact replica of the m1330... Of couse I love the look as well.

    good thing i was looking for portability or else i might be regretting this m1330 from less than a month ago!

    the only thing that is relatively significant between the m1330 and the m1530 (other than the screen size ofc) is the graphics card. i also saw that they plan to introduce the blu-ray drive as an option. thats significant to me.

    if the blu-ray is really available, im definitely paying to change the DVD burner on the m1330 into the blu-ray.
     
  4. sleey0

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    Nov 7 came and gone and no 1530.....

    Anyone got any new info on this??

    TIA
     
  5. gazkw

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    well nov 7 was the date generated by the rumour mill. i didn't see any official announcement on when this is going to be available.
     
  6. sleey0

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    Yeah, that date came from a field readiness training manual off of the DCSE website. It is usually pretty darn accurate as the release date for the M1330 and the M1730 were dead on in their respective training docs.....

    Oh well, my guess is they will release it on 11/17 with the new A2010 (the all-in-one computer - which looks pretty sweet if I might add)

    EDIT: Forgot to mention that the timing of the dramatic price cut AND the $100 rebate are quite questionable as well. I think Dell is trying to sell as many 1330's as they can and they figure they will make up the cost difference when the M1530 and A2010 come out. Just my thoughts, of course.....
     
  7. swarmer

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    They're advertising the all-in-one on their site, with a "teaser" video (if you navigate to XPS desktops). I haven't seen anything over there about the M1530, which makes me think that it will probably not be ready when the all-in-one becomes available. I'm hoping they do make an M1530 available at some point though, and that it's not a complete fiction.
     
  8. sleey0

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    I can tell you that i have been in contact with someone at Dell that does system captures and failure analysis and, while he couldn't tell me anything because of his NDA with Dell, he DID say it is VERY close. That was all he could say so, naturally, I think the 17th is about right.
     
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    where is this damn laptop!!!! i'm dying over here
     
  11. sticky101

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    good find...this is the first direct link to a dell website i've seen relating to the m1530....so sleey0 might in fact be correct about the 11/17 release date :) ....
     
  12. FooTBall100

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    If you do a search on the Dell US site there are 2 memory modules for the M1530 found plus a Tech Support discussion; someone on there claims to have spoken to a Dell kiosk rep and seen some M1530 spec sheets that mention 3 Graphic Card options ...

    Someone also says that a Dell rep mentioned that the actual weight with battery would be approx 0.5lbs more than the M1330 so with a 6-cell that would equate to about 5lbs.

    No clearer release date though!

    EDIT : just did a search on the DellUK site and it found the following
    Quite amusing but at least it shows again that the M1530 is a known item!
     
  13. chelet

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    There is also a service manual for the M1530 on the Dell DCSE site.
    https://dcse.dell.com/ifr/Portables/XPS_M1530/index.asp
    but you have to log in first to get the page. In the "Disassembly and Reassembly" section you can see pictures of the motherboard and other internal parts.

    I've uploaded the XPS_M1530.zip file to my sendspace account.
    It's 61.8 MB in size.
    http://www.sendspace.com/file/w0goco

    This is mainly for those who can't or don't want to register at DCSE.
     
  14. Weegie

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    Thanks for sharing chelet :notworthy:
     
  15. Weegie

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    Wow,what a disappointment.
     
  16. sleey0

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    mad + rep for chelet!!!
     
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    weegie, why do you say that it is disappointing?
     
  18. Weegie

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    Was hoping for better than 8400/8600GS options on the new 15" XPS....I know its light,but if I wanted a lightweight,I would buy a M1330 like you have.
    You like it ?

    I also have concerns that it will be flimsy and poorly built,being soo light for a 15"
     
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    Actually, I was thinking the opposite -- I thing it will be better built than the 1330. I really like my 1330, but i am having a ton of problems with it. I am on my 3rd system (all done via exchanges) and it is ROCK solid, but it has a crappy CMO screen. I never thought I would complain because I have seen Dell screens at their worst, but it is BAD! Anyway, my contact at Dell said he will let me exchange my 1330 for a 1530 when it comes out.

    I really would have rather kept the smaller system, but I guess I'll give the 1530 a try when it comes out....
     
  20. FooTBall100

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    Thanks for the zip chalet, looks like that document isn't quite finished yet despite being 'reviewed' internally and updated more than once, eg in the Display section of the spec appendix ...

    Not quite correct is it :)

    Maybe some proper pics will make it look better but I don't think it is as pleasing on the eye as the M1330 eg the display border doesn't have any contrasting black as on the M1330.
     
  21. sinstoic

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    Heard from Dell Rep (off record) that M1530 will be available online for order from November 17th, 2007 but the actual delivery could in January 2008! Further, Cobalt Blue color will be available.

    He further said that this time Dell will clealry state that the delivery will be delayed and could further delay and there are no freebies/concessions for those who complain. Wait or cancel, that is your only option.

    One good thing, M1530 will be extensively tested, so the defect rate will be way off than what people have faced for M1330. Yes, the price will be similar to current M1330 and discrete graphics may be dropped for M1330 once M1530 is available.

    PS: The information is from Dell Rep. at a kiosk. This guy was accurate about M1330 availability and the dates when one would actually get in hand.

    Disclaimer: Insider information from a trusted person doesn't necessarily mean it is going to be this way. Take this with a pinch of salt!
     
  22. Weegie

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    I notice they say its configurable to under 3.6 kg as well??? and 44mm thick??

    Sleey0,bad stuff with the screen problems,a good thing your rep has ok'd a swap for this model though.....at least you will get to try another model out and I guess if you don't find this one to your liking,you can always go back....got to love dell's keep the customer happy policy.
     
  23. sinstoic

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    Hmm! Looks like Dell is making M1330 similar to Macbook and M1530 similar to Macbook Pro!
     
  24. pstrisik

    pstrisik Notebook Evangelist

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    Aren't at least the chassis of both MBP and XPS1330 made for Apple/Dell by Asus?
     
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  26. Rachel

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    How exactly is the XPS M1330 anything like the Apple MacBook? The only thing similar is the 13.3 size and the slot loading drive that is it. If anything the XPS M1330 is more similar to the Sony SZ.
    The MacBook is made all out of plastic and it has no HDMI port or an express card slot. The MacBook is also heavier as well it has no LED screen option either or discrete graphics either. I just don't really see the similarity at all.
    I can see a slight similarity between the Dell XPS M1530 and the MBP though.

    I cannot see them doing away with discrete graphics in the 13.3 space either. If they do i think that would be a very bad move by Dell.

    I agree with FooTBall100 that the all silver border on this model does not look as good as it does on the XPS M1330 with its silver and black border.

    I logged into the Dell site to view the specs. Don't jump the gun yet. Just because they mention a 8600 card does not definitely mean that they will not be offering it in the 8600GT variety. If they offer this in the Dell 1520 it would not surprise me that they may offer it in the Dell XPS M1530 as well.
     
  27. sinstoic

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    Compared to M1330, M1530 has/can have:

    -T7800 2.6 GHz 4 MB Cache Processor Option OR
    -T7700 2.4 GHz 4 MB Cache Processor Option
    -15.4-inch WXGA+ TrueLife 1440x900 LED Backlit LCD Option OR
    -15.4 Inch WSXGA+ TrueLife 1680x1050 CCFL Backlit LCD Option OR
    -15.4 Inch CCFL WXGA+ TrueLife 1440x900 CCFL Backlit LCD Option
    -NVIDIA GeForce 8600M GS Video Option
    -128 MB or 256 MB Video Memory with variable TurboCache
    -Additional USB 2.0 Port on the left side
    -Blu-Ray Disc Mediabay Option
    -S-Video Connector on the right side

    -Height 44 mm (1.7 inches)
    -Width 394 mm (15.5 inches)
    -Depth 293 mm (11.3 inches)
    -Weight (with 6-cell battery) Configurable to less than 3.6 kg (8.0 lb)
     
  28. zadillo

    zadillo Notebook Virtuoso

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    Umm, that can't be right. 1.7" thick and 8.0 pounds?
     
  29. zadillo

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    Asus manufactures the MacBook for Apple, but not the MBP (not sure off the top of my head who makes the MBP).

    Asus has apparently claimed they are currently going to be manufacturing some sort of tablet for Apple as well.
     
  30. sinstoic

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    ------ ;) :p :D ------

    I got another trusted confirmation from another state that M1330 may lose discrete graphics! I believe the decision could change based on M1530 sales.
     
  31. sinstoic

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    My rep had a different version of the same booklet! It had less information though but not any incorrect references and copy-paste of M1330 information.
     
  32. Weegie

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    As much as I doubt it,I do hope you are right rachuk referring to the 8600gt.

    Looking at the heatsink assy though,it looks very much a large compromise for cooling v space to me.When I look at the heat sinks on the XPS M1730 for one of the 8700GT's [which are amazing]its hard to imagine the 1530 coming with any sort of fast clocked G84.

    But I would sure love to be proved wrong.
     
  33. sinstoic

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    Ha ha ha! Called up Dell and gave them a config for a quote for 25 notebooks and at the end mentioned it is a M1530. The woman fumbled for a while and then transferred me to her supervisor, who took a long time, only to come back and say that they cannot configure any system currently not available on the US Dell website.
     
  34. wurger

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    Yeah, a big no no for dell, if you reading this forum, keep the discrete graphics in 1330. :eek:
     
  35. chelet

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    And "Configurable to less than 3.6 kg (8.0 lb)" sounds more like the 1720. :confused2: Their listed system specs seem a bit off. And some of the pictures look like they were made using a prototype or something (like the pictures of hard drive replacement showing the bottom of the laptop as gray). I don't think they're quite finished with updating this manual. It's still interesting to see the work in progress.
     
  36. sleey0

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    Yeah, if you look at the section in it where the battery is taken out it says "DYNAPAK ENGENEERING SAMPLE" on the battery. Those pics are def not of the final spec machine, rather the internals and system layout.
     
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    Thats a good way to null the 1330 sales...even if it will be sub 1000€, but its still a notebook without usable graphics.

    However if they offer both the 1330 and the 1530 with the same specs, the 1530 will cannibalize the 1330 sales...in one word Dell should have made it at least as powerful as a 1520, to compete with the Macbook Pro. Now it will be a stepchild which will either kill the 1330 or die out.
     
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    Strange are the ways of Dell, all I can say is what the Hell?
     
  39. sinstoic

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    Heard that Dell may drop LED Backlight LCD on M1330. Another incentive to stick with M1530.
     
  40. sinstoic

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    Dell Canada has already stopped M1330 with LED Backlight LCD.
     
  41. L.Rawlins

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    Taking the LED out of the M1330 wouldn't make me buy an M1530. I simply wouldn't spend my money with Dell.

    This idea is made even more proposterous on the basis that according to the rumour mill Apple are finally due to jump into the ultra portable market with their own LED/SSD 13 incher Q1 next year.
     
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    Even more preposterous is the idea that Dell might be heading in the wrong direction, maintaining LED-backlighting as a premium feature (like Sony used to do with the SZ series, offering it only on the more expensive premium models).

    It's pretty clear the industry is slowly moving towards using LED-backlighting across the board. Removing it as an option from the XPSm1330 seems silly.
     
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    Commercial. Suicide.
     
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    I heard that Michael Dell is going to throw himself off the top of his corporate headquarters. In his will he wrote that "Everyone that purchased and M1330 will be given full access to free upgrades and Dell systems for life".

    People hear all kinds of things. Whether you believe it or not is up to you

    DISCLAIMER: Original post edited to comply with Mr. Moderators rules
     
  45. sinstoic

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    Apple's ultra portable lacks Optical Drive and HDMI even when it is an 13 incher. I can understand dropping optical drive when the size is 12 inch but at 13 inch, their offering isn't good enough! SSD is still not in affordable range. I'll look at SSDs when they are available in 256GB under $300.
     
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    Considering that this Apple ultraportable is still firmly in the rumored phase, I think it's a bit early to tell anything for sure about it.

    I think the lack of optical drive could possibly be justified if it truly is remarkably thin. We'll just have to see.

    -Zadillo
     
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    Please refrain from personal insults.

    -Zadillo
     
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    Rumors are always to be taken with a pinch of salt! But sometimes, some of the stuff can help you make your purchase decision wisely!
     
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    When a 13 inch and a 15 inch with similar configuration ends up costing the same, profit is dependent upon how you can reduce the overheads.

    PS: Apple also made similar decisions and no longer offers smaller screens in their iMac lineups.
     
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    I hope Dell keep the M1330 just the way it is although it would certainly make deciding between them much easier and stranger things happen at sea!

    Maybe Dell are planning to phase out the M1330 completely (hard to believe with the success it has had) but why have so many of the news sites indicated that the upcoming M1530 is the 'successor' to the M1330? To me that sounds as though it's more of a replacement than a big brother. Maybe that would explain why it's called the M1530 as it's derived from the M1330 product line, after all it should be called the M1540 should it not?

    Is it just conicidence that on the same day of strong rumours about a new lightweight 13.3" Apple with LED backlight that the Dell Canada site have removed the M1330 LED backlight as an option, maybe Apple are buying up huge numbers of 13.3" LED backlight displays and Dell realise they won't be able to meet demand in the short term and see the 15.4" LED as being the more plentiful option.

    Hopefully we'll find out more on the 17th if that date comes true for an announcement.
     
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