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    Coming Soon: Xps M1530!

    Discussion in 'Dell XPS and Studio XPS' started by DoubleBlack, Oct 5, 2007.

  1. greystone

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    As it stands now this isn't a gaming laptop, and IMO its goal is to match the MBP in most regards and it seems to be failing.

    I thought G1S' were about 6.3#, but neither that nor the C90S are flashy "premium" laptops (again, like the MBP).
     
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    I don't buy that this laptop will be 6.1 pounds. It seems like the point is to be something thin an light for a 15.4" notebook.

    Now, I also don't think its going to be 4 pounds like those early rumors (that would frankly be nuts), but I would expect it to be firmly in the 5 pound area.

    If it is 6.1 pounds, then I expect it to have a full 8600M GT, not an 8600M GS.
     
  3. FooTBall100

    FooTBall100 Notebook Geek

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    If you look at the link above for the M1330 version of this pdf the weight listed for that is 2.2Kg!!! Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't 2.2Kg the weight with a 9 Cell battery and CCFL backlight? With a 6-Cell and LED backlight the M1330 only weighs 2.0Kg/4.4lbs, maybe the 2.8Kg quoted in the M1530 pdf could also be for the heaviest setup ie 6-Cell + LED may be more like 2.5Kg/5.5lbs.
     
  4. praneeth

    praneeth Sanath Jaya Suriya!!!

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    I agree.. this probably means the M1530 is at least 0.4kg (1lb) heavier than the M1330 though....
     
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    velman Notebook Enthusiast

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    The flash animation, from which i took the pictures posted, is now available in swedish. It can't be a bad sign...?
     
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    praneeth Sanath Jaya Suriya!!!

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    Nice find.. it's got to be announced any day now.. .the dell website itself has leaked it in so many places...
     
  8. velman

    velman Notebook Enthusiast

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    So now it's confirmed: XPS M1530 will have Go 8400M GS or Go 8600M GT.
     
  9. praneeth

    praneeth Sanath Jaya Suriya!!!

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    well you can actually see pricing by going in to the specs section and clicking "select"

    GBP 929 with 8600 GT, 250GB hard drive, T7250 etc.. no LED in that configuration though.. seems kind of expensive.
     
  10. praneeth

    praneeth Sanath Jaya Suriya!!!

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    No LED option??

    Looking increasingly like the looks are the only thing the 1530 has in common with the 1330..

    "Crystal-Clear Viewing
    See your digital content how it was meant to be seen. The XPS M1530 boasts a Hi-def display with 800 lines of resolution (surpassing the 720-line Hi-def standard) for supreme viewing. Plus, an HDMI output allows you to easily connect to an external Hi-def display for sharp, gorgeous image and sound transfer."
     
  11. praneeth

    praneeth Sanath Jaya Suriya!!!

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    I think they had 3 display options listed like 5 minutes ago? anyone else see it?

    Looks like now available for purchase...
     
  12. velman

    velman Notebook Enthusiast

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    No, i can only see one display
     
  13. praneeth

    praneeth Sanath Jaya Suriya!!!

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    starting weight 1.83lbs higher than the M1330 (0.83kg)
     
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    They won't be letting customers trade in their M1330's for these, will they?
     
  15. praneeth

    praneeth Sanath Jaya Suriya!!!

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    praneeth Sanath Jaya Suriya!!!

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    I doubt they will.. looking at weight/screen/possible battery life not sure why you would.
     
  17. FooTBall100

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    This is a bit of a disappointment with no LED 1440x900 option (maybe at a later date perhaps), at least the weight isn't quite 2.8Kg but 2.62Kg is still heavier than what we were expecting. Spec wise and weight wise this is very similar to a Sony FZ and not the MBP killer predicted. No upgrade options on the UK site yet, just 4 pre-def configurations - not sure why the top model costs £1299 and the next model down only £929, the only difference appears to be CPU ie T7500 v T7250.

    For £1299 you can buy a T7500 15.4" MBP with 1440x900 LED backlight, smaller footprint at 1 inch thick and weighing 2.43Kg, but it only has a 120GB HD and a 128MB 8600GT so the M1530 beats it on a couple of things for the same price - the top model still feels overpriced though!
     
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    Top model has got a blue ray drive as well, that's what's bumping the price up.
     
  19. L.Rawlins

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    Not exactly spectacular is it. Infact, a lot of the specs. are those I was expecting to see in an M1330 update fairly soon. The processor and GPU primarilly. If this is now the plateau for the M1530 I'm beginning to think that the upgrade path for the M1330 has now been neutered for the forseeable future. Dell will use feature additions such as the T7700 processor, 8600GT card and Blu-ray drive to bolster sales of the newer unit over the smaller one.

    It's a sad day. :(
     
  20. FooTBall100

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    OK thanks, I missed that so yes it does justify the price more and adds a plus point over the MBP, not that I would buy a MBP for £1299, I was just comparing really.

    I think I'm leaning back towards an M1330 now, the larger screen would have been nice but only with a higher res and LED option and not much more weight. For £969.00 I can have an M1330 with T7500 and LED backlight and 250GB HD - well for the next 2 days until the offer ends, or is extended again!!!
     
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    You can now configure the 4 default configs on Dell UK - eg £70.01 to upgrade CPU from T7250 to T7500 as per the M1330. Blu-Ray is a £270.00option, so that means if you start with the £929 model and upgrade to T7500 and Blu-ray it will cost only £1269.00, less than the default top spec @ £1299.00!!!!!
     
  22. L.Rawlins

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    Don't forget that the HDMI port on the M15 & 1330's will both support ample external screens. From my point of view, another reason to stay with the more portable XPS.
     
  23. FooTBall100

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    Agreed! Looking at the pricing of the M1330 v M1530 if you ignore the discount on the M1330 then it would cost £949.00 with T7250 and CCFL backlight and 250GB HD ie £20 more than the M1530 £929.00 model which has the better graphics card! I wonder if these 'offer' prices on the M1330 are actually new prices that are just being advertised as discounted, otherwise the M1530 will appear the better option for the same spec in 2 days time.

    UPDATE : Just found a 10% UK Dell voucher that can be applied to any system over £599 including M1530 : 7LZTMMW5L0M$WT - expires 4th Dec!

    Just tried it and it works, I can get an M1330 with T7500/LED/250GB for £872 including delivery, this seems a very tempting offer :)

    Anyone know if Dell do any late December/January sales offers? I could wait but I'm not sure how much below £872 they could go unless they have a pre-Penryn sale to get rid of old stock in Jan/Feb before the new CPUs arrive.
     
  24. scythie

    scythie I died for your sins.

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    Anyone else disappointed with the lack of an LED option? :(
     
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    amuraivel Notebook Consultant

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    I honestly had cash ready to spend on the XPS 1530.

    I just specked out the machine--it weighs in at over 1,200 GBP!
    There is no point to get the machine because the MacBook Pro 15.4" is better:
    1. Longer battery life
    2. Better processor
    3. LED and higher resolution screen (1280x800 is ridiculous on a 15.4" pro machine)
    4. It's lighter.
    5. Has GDDR3 gfx memory.
    6. It's cheeper (at least in the states).
     
  26. greystone

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    No, not worth the money, and I'm sure they will add it later on. I do want to see something better than 1280x800 which is simply unaaceptable for a 15". I have that on my 12" 700m and it's fine, no good for 3" extra inches.

    So far this isn't a bad laptop. A bit heavy, but the 8600GT is key. I'm still interested, let's make a deal. :)
     
  27. majortom1981

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    The macbook pro is not cheaper then the xps 1530 its about $400 at least more then the 1530 without any discounts.(this is in the US)
     
  28. amuraivel

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    I stand corrected--I just reconfigured the system, and it is ca. 1050 GP vs. 1360GBP for the MacBook Pro with similar configuration. I now don't know where I got the first number.
     
  29. FooTBall100

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    According to the news item by Jerry there are higher res options in the pipeline but no mention of LED backlighting yet ...

     
  30. L.Rawlins

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    Dells pricing changes with the direction of the wind. No doubt it was that price when you were first there. :)

    Highly frustrating isn't it.
     
  31. greystone

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    Gah, this needs clarification ASAP, 1280 just won't do for a 15". The UK site had two resolutions listed earlier.

    G1S is looking better all the time, if only it weren't so ugly.
     
  32. FooTBall100

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    In the discussion on the news item Jerry indicates the higher res options could be available within the next month or so. If the higher res options appeared initially and then disappeared I would guess that means they can't be too far away from being a real option.

    The pricing will be interesting, I would guess about £50 premium for the 1440x900 option when it arrives.
     
  33. L.Rawlins

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    I just looked this moment on the UK site, and you can't get wireless 'N' or a drive spinning faster than 5400RPM at the moment.

    I'd give the thing a wide berth whilst they iron out production issues and the featureset. Much the same principles apply with anything from Dell in my opinion.
     
  34. Rachel

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    I was right then i said that it was best to wait about the 8600GT card and see what Dell might do. It made no sense to me that they would not actually include it.

    It is a shame that these notebooks do not have the LED screen though. Still it has not been conclusively proven yet if these LED screens do actually measure up to some of the claims in regards to battery life.

    The resolution is a bit poor but it is no worse than the Sony FZ. This notebook is actually speced better than the FZ it also has the option for a better graphics card as well. The FZ also uses a standard CCFL LCD screen.

    The inclusion of the LED screen would bring the weight down to about 5.4/5lbs which is pretty much the same weight as the MBP. The current weight is pretty good still for a 15.4 notebook. This computer also offers some other things that the MBP does not offer.

    The inclusion of the 64 SSD and the Intel Turbo Memory are a nice option as is the Blu ray drive and the finger print reader and extra card slots and ports.

    If Dell could up the resolution and possibly include an LED backlight screen i think that they could have a real winner on their hands.
     
  35. L.Rawlins

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    Perhaps the resolution restrictions are due to Dell wanting to make sure that this time around, their panels are shipped as flawless (read:grainless) components. With the 'XPS' brand stamped on the hood of these things, you can well understand their presumed hesitation with quality standards.
     
  36. greystone

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    I agree on both points, hopefully it irons out soon as I'm still very interested. :)
     
  37. amuraivel

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    Doubt it, it is a business technique called "harvesting"; companies plunder the consumer surplus by drip feeding features to the market.

    However, this latest offering from dell is a laughable compared to the rest of their XPS line in the sense that the product doesn't offer anything that the market isn't already saturated with: 15.4 inch gaming notebooks. Nor does it offer any of the wide range of options that make Dell somewhat appealing to shop with.

    A "pro-sumer" notebook without a decent screen resolution is a joke! Gamers won't just accidently just buy a random notebook with a crappy resolution.
     
  38. sleey0

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    I could live with the resolution even though it sucks for a 15.4" screen. If I don't like it then RMA it is.

    Hey flamenko - just an update: my guy at Dell is working to get me the system exchange from my 1330 to the 1530. I talked to him about 5 minutes ago and should know if it will be done by the end of today....
     
  39. Mt9

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    I don't mean to sound negative, but are any of u worried about the
    CPU whine on the new M1530? Wouldn't that enter into your decision?

    I've just returned my M1330 and for replacement because of this stupid noise. Wish I could hve asked for the most current Bios version and MB, etc.

    wish i new if Dell was going to fix the problems w/the M1330 or just
    go rudderlesss on this system.
     
  40. Mt9

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    where are u looking/expecting to see an M1330 update? thanks,

    i'm looking for this as well.
     
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    Mt9,

    Since the 1530 was just released, any fix available for the CPU whine will no doubt be included (I am sure Dell has worked this out as this is a brand new system and they had plenty of time to work on a fix. Plus the mobo will be different from the 1330's anyway)
     
  42. L.Rawlins

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    Whoever said that the M1530 was for gamers? The M1330 wasn't. This new breed of XPS appears to be handing the 'raw power reigns' to it's sister brand, Alienware.

    This would make sense. Why would Dell fork out the R&D to compete with itself?
     
  43. praneeth

    praneeth Sanath Jaya Suriya!!!

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    Well.. if the M1330 deserved a XGA screen... THe M1530 has to deserve better.. regardless of gaming needs... this is really poor resolution for a 15 inch screen... the advantage of a 15 inch screen is gone if you only have the number of pixels from the 13 inch version...
     
  44. Mt9

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    sleeyo, thanks so much for u'r message. its reassuring. i need to weigh
    pro/cons of m1330 vs. 1530 : cpu noise could be a deal breaker for me.

    thx.
     
  45. velman

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    I suppose no one doutbs that dell will release higher resolutions for m1530? I have spoken with dell several times and they has confirmed that they will offer higher resolutions "later on". "Later on" can be everything between one day and a month. :(
     
  46. zadillo

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    Well, um, yes. Why is that making you doubt that they will release higher resolutions? Frankly, if it just means that they're a month away (which sounds about right, since I think I heard they would be offering the other screen res options at the start of 2008), that jibes with everything that's been said so far.

    -Zadillo
     
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    Speculate for me why they wouldn't offer higer res screens on this laptop? They already have screens, it is a chargable upgrade...
     
  48. praneeth

    praneeth Sanath Jaya Suriya!!!

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    I think its a certainty unless the world comes to a sudden end.

    Timing.. early 2008 at the latest I would think. there is some guesswork there.

    If you've worked with a 1280x800 screen in Vista you quickly find out it's not the ideal resolution for it.. the only reason to have it is if you have a smaller screen like in a thinkpad x61 or an M1330...
     
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    mmm, but I hope it comes i early december...
     
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    any speculations on how the battery life will be on m1530?

    ive waited since summer for the asus f8sv
    im on the verge of purchasing it, but the battery life on it sucks.
    so if the m1530 can pull off a better batt life, i think ill wait for the higher res screen, and opt for that instead of getting the asus. any suggestions?
     
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