On the box of my LG it said refurbished, so I'm assuming mine came from another computer, so I guess I probably just got really lucky.
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So, I just got out of a chat session attempting to acquire an LG replacement. I didn't think I had it in me, especially after getting hung up on last night. It was kind of interesting. After I gave my spiel, she came back and said, "I am seeing a previous order around the beginning of January for a 1530 that had it's LCD replaced twice because it was grainy. Then it was returned and now this screen is also grainy?"
I thought this was going down the road of being indicated as a complaining, bad customer.
Then later sends me this link: http://www.lgphilips-lcd.com/homeContain/jsp/eng/tech/tech301_sips_j_e.jsp and she says, " am unaware of the exact panel type inside the 2, but am quite familiar with panel variation. A friend of mine has the exact same panel and his is better in every way. Some of us are very prone to the differences."
I am not sure if her friend had the exact same panel as I was requesting (LG) or as I have (Samsung)
At any rate she put in the order for the LG and cable and gave me the standard info that it might not actually be the one that gets sent.
This is really too much crap to go through to purchase a $1700 product. I am partly doing this out of the desire to help other people get a quality product and to urge Dell resolve this 3 year old problem with the "TrueLife" Samsung screens. I know I'm not just a bad, complaining customer, I've had over 10 new Dell notebooks over the last 6 years. The only other screen complaint I ever had was the same issue on the first TrueLife glossy screen they came out with.
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I just fired up my Vostro 1500 with WXSGA+ screen, and I think it's an LG!!!! Can you guys please confirm this. Everything looks great, and I don't see any grain.
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LPLF300 it's an LG Phillips
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WizeGuyDezignz, please read the stickies before you post. There is an entire grainy screen guide FAQ dedicated to your issue and there is also a separate thread where questions go. The stickies are there for a reason.
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People who already got the LG screens, you all mind if we ask who got the screens for you,.. right. Like the rep name, Id or anything. If you are not afraid to spill them out rather than just be happy about the lg part they gave you. That is if you want to help the rest of us here get right screen.
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Hi all.
New board user, I came here after getting my m1530 and found this all to be very helpful and informative, so thanks all for sharing.
My story--
I'm in the UK and got my m1530 2 days ago and the screen seemed OK at first for windows and internet browsing, but once I booted up a game with a darker screen balance, I noticed much color wash-out, but worse of all, horrible contrast. There was no black in the screen, only grey at darkest. Right side of the screen was darker, bottom was very light and color-faded. Out of the game, i started looking at just blank screens and bios screens and noticed that my backlighting made the screen edges washed out, and essentially a giant blob protuding from the bottom into the middle washed out. Graininess is slight, I've seen worse. Viewing angles are horrible. Even perfectly parrallel either the top or the bottom loses viewability. The display on my work NEC LCD and my 3-year-old inspiron 9100 LCD is just worlds better than this m1530.
Tried to find the monitor ID from devices but it gave the generic windows number, so I can't even figure out what's in there. My order gave no details either. Just that it's a 1280 x 800 TFT Truelife. I'm guessing it's the Chunghwa or the Samsung.
So, I called XPS tech support today and the agent was responsive--at first. I explained the screen problems and he said it could be replaced. I kindly requested the LG screen instead and gave the part number. He said he had to call people about the parts and would call me back with a date for technicians to come and install.
He called back 2 hours later and said since it was new and nothing was technically wrong with the screen, it was a customer service issue. After fighting over this point for a while, he said I have a samsung and he could only replace with another samsung. I tried dropping the "warranty item replacement" line but to no avail. He told me my only options were to replace with another samsung or to return it and order a new one with an LG screen. I pointed out there was no way to select the screen when it's ordered. I pointed out that many people posted in forums stating they got an on-site tech to swap out and provide an LG screen. No luck. He said he could do nothing and this would be escalated to the customer care team and they would be in touch.
Sigh. Luck of the draw whether or not you get a ****ty screen, and luck of the draw if you get a tech support person who will actually help. I'm tempted to pack this one up and ship it back and order one when I know I can be guaranteed an LG screen.
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Sigh. As a hunch I just chatted with Sales and they said they could not place an order asking specifically for the LG screen. Anyone have any different of an experience with this?
So my current options are a) replace with a samsung or b) return and reorder and hope for the best. Wheel of fate, anyone? -
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Yes, we all have intermittently gotten techs that say "there is no way I can order an LG" and other techs that say "I'll order the LG for you" I don't really know why this is happening, if there are actually techs who have different options or if some techs are just bad and others really want to try to help. The 2 techs that persistently claimed they couldn't order the LG got angry when I mentioned that other customers had this done for them. Why do they get angry? I'm the one who got the crappy screen for $1700.
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Well luckily I got a LG WXSGA+ screen with my Vostro 1500 that I received yesterday. It is device ID LPL300 or something like that. My part # for the screen is JN997. That seems to be a different part # than most people are posting on here about the LG screen.
Did I get a different model of LG? Other than some light leakage at the bottom of the screen, I have a green stuck pixel on the lower left hand side of the screen.
It is really low, the start bar covers it when it's up (I use automatic hide on the start bar). Luckily it's not in the middle of the screen or something. It is noticeable on dark backgrounds. It's the only one on the screen, but it does bother me a bit seeing it there.
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At this point, I would prefer a stuck pixel or 2 with an otherwise screen. But in general I find that unacceptable. Occasionally massaging the stuck pixel area with your fingertip will fix the problem. It either works immediately, or it never works. If it works, it may come back repeatedly, too. I don't think Dell will exchange a screen for a single dead pixel. I'm not sure what the threshold is for that, but it's definitely more than 1.
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Yeah luckily the location of it won't disrupt normal activities. So you would just live with it? Other than that and the light leakage at the bottom, the screen looks great.
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This is ironic...just as I am typing this post the phone rings and it's the tech to schedule the replacement work appointment. I asked him to give me the part# he has for me.... after a few seconds of shuffling papers, he said "XK309"So don't believe these reps that try to shuffle you. Either they just too inexperienced and don't know, or, they are too lazy to do what you need them to do. The XK309 *IS* selectable in their system (they enter the part # manually), and it IS in stock (obviously from the above). WATCH your online service order carefully. Eventually the part # will display...if anything other than XK309 comes up, call them before it ships. If it says XK309 then wait for the shipping section to update as "shipped" Once it shows as shipped, it's not going to change again and you should be good to go.
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I've purchased over 50 systems from Dell in the last several years so it may have given me a little edge when getting the XK309 I wanted. The tech never questioned me or ran any kind of tests... he just put in the service order and added the part # I gave him. Be assertive but in a courteous way. Don't use words like "dude" and other slang terms....it's not professional. The rep must understand that you too are an experienced professional and you know what you want. If there is mutual respect, you'll have no problem. Bottom line, DON'T keep it because "you'll just live with it". You paid good money and it should meet all your expectations. If it bothers you, then get it replaced. -
I'm pretty sure it's impossible to get your screen replaced now. I was just told this by Tech Support:
Let me Copy The Direct email we all received Team, be advised, we are not to replace any screens on the 1330 and the 1530 with anything else than what was ordered on the system. We are seeing a lot of complaints about the Samsung screens, and per REC, they are not to be replaced by anyone for any reason. The process would be for the customer to contact Customer Care, return the system, and order a new system with the upgraded screen. Once again, we are not to upgrade the screens for any reason, no exceptions. If you have any questions, please let me know. -
1.) Last night I spoke with a dell Tech, she placed an order for the LG for me and it was shipped today.
2.) There is no way to upgrade the screen, the WSXGA is the highest grade screen offered and the LG is of the same specification, so the part that implies this is an upgrade is an error on the part the person who wrote, both in seeing the screen as an upgrade and also in implying it could be ordered with a system specifically. In other words somebody is an idiot that should not be doing whatever job it is they are doing.
3.) Customer service up to this point has never been able to do anything about this, and has always referred people to tech support.
4.) Hello, right there in the script it says "We are seeing a lot of complaints about the Samsung screens". The reaction? Give only Samsung screens. Dell needs to find any managers that have this level of insanity and get rid of them.
5.) Either screen can end up in a notebook for which the same price was paid and the same configuration option was selected. This is just a further of the idiocy in the script.
I have to stop now and let others rant a while. I would not let this deter you from resolving your screen problem if you have one. But if you do choose the "return laptop method", please make sure and let them know that you know the LG screens are better and would have liked one and to keep your notebook if it hadn't had been such a hassle to get one, if you feel that way. And include any rudeness are absurdities you experienced trying to resolve your problem before resorting to returning it. -
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I tried Dell Chat first and my work internet connection was lagging the conversation. When I finally had a good chat going, the CSR kept asking me about if I ran diagnostics and if I got an error code.
After chat in between, he said if there is no error code from the diagnostics software, then everything is running fine. I finally got fed up and told him that no diagnostics software is going to tell me what my eyes see. My eyes see back light leakage and a stuck pixel. The guy had the balls to end my session and in the email of the conversation, he deleted the sentences about me wanting something done otherwise I will return it and buy from a different company.
This was all while at work mind you. I immediately grabbed my cell phone and rushed outside. I called Dell instead and I got a customer resolutions manager on the phone without even asking for one.
Let me tell you, she was the NICEST person I have talked to at any company in a long while. She never once questioned anything and immediately set up a replacement to be shipped overnight once it's done being built. I was so pleasantly surprised and I had let her know about my Dell Chat experience.
She even knew that there was only 1 stuck pixel, and she said there shouldn't be any. She was so cool, I am definitely keeping her phone number and email address. LOL.
One question...based on my service tag, will I get all the same part numbers in my next laptop? I ask because I had an LG screen and I would like it to be the same. I asked her about getting an LG screen and she said it should be the same components. Do you know about that? Thanks! -
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I don't think I mentioned this before, but during the chat session I had last night, I was also asked if I had run diagnostics and if an error had been returned. I answered that I had and it hadn't. She replied, "If there was a problem with the display, the diagnostics should find it." I tried, but I was not able to reach through my monitor and strangle her. Of course, this is the same conversation where I ended up getting the LG sent out.
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Oh yeah, this is why I always periodically copy the chat session. I wish I had recorded that call where the tech hung up on me. But what can you do anyway? I did file a complaint with Dell about the guy, but I wonder if anything will really be done about it. Perhaps it's enough just that I hope he gets fired, loses his house, his wife leaves him, he becomes depressed and becomes a bum and gets cancer and stubs his toe. And that's just what I hope for him today.
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OK, the LG is in. The tech did a nice, careful job. Everything is back together the right way and everything works. As for the screen, the only area I do not see a major difference is in brightness... it's really about the same. But that's the only similarity. Viewing angles are far better, the monitor has no more of that "sparkly" like appearance. Very sharp and clean picture. Backlight bleed is very minimal. No bad pixels.
So, although I have to admit, I was not "blown away" by the difference, (I said all along that the Samsung I has was not terrible, quite bright in fact), the LG is certainly a nicer in display as far as overall appearance than the Samsung, just for the far better viewing angles alone. So, that's it! -
Hey all,
Just got my dell 1530 on Monday. Needless to say my first impressions was wow this is dark. So after playing with the computer for a few days I decided I did not like the screen and will either have it replaced or return the order. I just did the customer chat and i will paste the results here. Needless to say I was not satisified and called the 1-800 number. Talked to EPP customer care and they are shipping out a new laptop though they couldn't guarantee any screens. Hopefull I will get lucky and get a screen that is not dim with horrible viewing angles.
Code:02/06/2008 03:55:03PM Session Started with Agent (XPS_Jonathon_159030) 02/06/2008 03:55:11PM Agent (XPS_Jonathon_159030): "Thank you for contacting Dell XPS Hardware Online Warranty Support. My name is Jonathon, and how may I assist you ?" 02/06/2008 03:55:30PM Jason xxxxxxxx: "Hi Jonathon" 02/06/2008 03:55:38PM Agent (XPS_Jonathon_159030): "Hello, what can I do for you ?" 02/06/2008 03:55:51PM Jason xxxxxxxx: "I just received my xps 1530 on monday" 02/06/2008 03:56:11PM Jason xxxxxxxx: "On the first bootup my first thought was wow this screen is really dim/dark" 02/06/2008 03:56:24PM Jason xxxxxxxx: "Even though I had it on max brightness" 02/06/2008 03:56:51PM Jason xxxxxxxx: "I talked with a tech yesterday and they suggested I run diagnostics. I did and it returned no problems" 02/06/2008 03:57:30PM Agent (XPS_Jonathon_159030): "Sorry to hear that. Do you have an external monitor to test if it is the LCD or not ?" 02/06/2008 03:57:40PM Agent (XPS_Jonathon_159030): "Is the AC plugged in ?" 02/06/2008 03:58:00PM Jason xxxxxxxx: "So I have a screen that is really dim/dark with horrible viewing angles. This is the upgraded ($100) screen 1680x1050." 02/06/2008 03:58:14PM Jason xxxxxxxx: "Yes I hooked it up to my external LCD and it looks great on that screen" 02/06/2008 03:58:49PM Agent (XPS_Jonathon_159030): "I can replace the LCD for you. I need your name, service tag, address, day phone and email address please." 02/06/2008 03:59:37PM Jason xxxxxxxx: "My name is Jason xxxxxxxx. Service tag xxxxxxx." 02/06/2008 04:00:31PM Jason xxxxxxxx: "Address: xxx. phone xxxx. email xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" 02/06/2008 04:01:52PM Jason xxxxxxxx: "I did some google searching on screen problems on the dell 1530 and found a couple threads on it. They suggest that I ask you very nicely for a LG replacement screen. It seems that is the screen that has better quality control. Could you please try to"   order part number "XK309"? 02/06/2008 04:02:24PM Agent (XPS_Jonathon_159030): "Sorry, I cannot do that. I can only replace what came on your system." 02/06/2008 04:02:54PM Jason xxxxxxxx: "It is the same part, just a differnt manufacturer." 02/06/2008 04:03:15PM Agent (XPS_Jonathon_159030): "No, a different part, different cost." 02/06/2008 04:03:26PM Jason xxxxxxxx: "B/C dell uses a lottery for the screens. I would really like to not get a replacement screen that has the same problems." 02/06/2008 04:03:29PM Agent (XPS_Jonathon_159030): "I can replace the same model what you have now." 02/06/2008 04:03:48PM Agent (XPS_Jonathon_159030): "Sorry, not an option." 02/06/2008 04:03:57PM Agent (XPS_Jonathon_159030): "Do you still want the replacement LCD ?" 02/06/2008 04:04:38PM Jason xxxxxxxx: "Yes, the current screen is unacceptable. Could you please escalate this to a supervisor?" 02/06/2008 04:04:50PM Agent (XPS_Jonathon_159030): "Sorry, no, I cannot." 02/06/2008 04:05:23PM Agent (XPS_Jonathon_159030): "You have two options,, 1,, replace LCD with same model what you have, or return system, buy new one with upgraded screen." 02/06/2008 04:05:53PM Jason xxxxxxxx: "I bought the upgraded screen" 02/06/2008 04:06:13PM Agent (XPS_Jonathon_159030): "Good, and then you will get the same model that you have now." 02/06/2008 04:07:25PM Agent (XPS_Jonathon_159030): "You will get a LCD, 15.4WSXGA." 02/06/2008 04:09:00PM Agent (XPS_Jonathon_159030): "is this going to be ok ?" 02/06/2008 04:09:34PM Jason xxxxxxxx: "I have the highest version of the screen possible. The problem is dell uses a generic part number that correlates to multiple company's (LG, Samsung, etc). So you order that part number I have a chance to get a LG or Samsung, or another company. The ac"   tual part number for the LG is the XK309. It is the same screen resolution i have now, just a specific brand. I currently have the samsung brand and it is unacceptable. So if you don't request the LG part number I have a chance of getting another samsu   ng. It may be good or it may have the same viewing problems. Could you please just try to add a note to the order that I want the lg screen? 02/06/2008 04:09:53PM Agent (XPS_Jonathon_159030): "You will probably not get a LG." 02/06/2008 04:10:21PM Agent (XPS_Jonathon_159030): "If the original one was not LG, I cannot make any guarantee, notes to our dispatcher, sorry." 02/06/2008 04:11:42PM Agent (XPS_Jonathon_159030): "You will probably get the same model, same manufacturer." 02/06/2008 04:11:52PM Agent (XPS_Jonathon_159030): "Is this going to be ok ?" 02/06/2008 04:12:26PM Jason xxxxxxxx: "That is what I'm saying the LG and Samsung are both the same resolution. I do want a replacement screen. I guess if the replacement has the same problems I can just return the whole laptop? How can I get in touch with a supervisor on this issue?" 02/06/2008 04:13:10PM Agent (XPS_Jonathon_159030): "Sorry if I was unclear. If you have a Samsung now, you will get another Samsung." 02/06/2008 04:13:29PM Agent (XPS_Jonathon_159030): "You would need to call in to speak with a supervisor, since I am an Online rep." 02/06/2008 04:13:56PM Agent (XPS_Jonathon_159030): "You will not get a LG from Technical Support." 02/06/2008 04:14:17PM Jason xxxxxxxx: "Ok is it possible for me to call in and talk to a supervisor and he can see this chat?" 02/06/2008 04:14:35PM Agent (XPS_Jonathon_159030): "I will email you a copy of this chat." 02/06/2008 04:15:02PM Agent (XPS_Jonathon_159030): "You can call in, however, the supervisors have advised that we cannot give out the LG screens." 02/06/2008 04:15:23PM Jason xxxxxxxx: "Ok, is the number I should be calling 1-800-822-8965?" 02/06/2008 04:15:41PM Agent (XPS_Jonathon_159030): "Yes, you will be advised of the same thing. Sorry." 02/06/2008 04:15:50PM Jason xxxxxxxx: "Why are the LG screens being reserved?" 02/06/2008 04:16:33PM Agent (XPS_Jonathon_159030): "They are not. The simple reason is that you did not have a LG with your system originally." 02/06/2008 04:16:52PM Agent (XPS_Jonathon_159030): "xxxxxxxxxxx is your case number." 02/06/2008 04:17:30PM Agent (XPS_Jonathon_159030): "I will not submit the dispatch since you are calling in, just in case, you decide to return the system." 02/06/2008 04:18:20PM Jason xxxxxxxx: "Ok, I understand that. But I also know the LG and samsung use the same generic part number for the resolution type. Why should I use a substandard screen when I know there are better quality screen available with the same part number and price?" 02/06/2008 04:19:07PM Agent (XPS_Jonathon_159030): "Sorry, not up to me, and not up to Technical Support. Per your warranty, we can replace the item for exactly what you received." 02/06/2008 04:19:33PM Agent (XPS_Jonathon_159030): "You can call Customer Care or even talk to a supervisor in Technical Support, but, you will be advised the same." 02/06/2008 04:19:51PM Jason xxxxxxxx: "Thanks for you time. I will call the 1-800 number. Please do not order the replacement." 02/06/2008 04:19:56PM Jason xxxxxxxx: "your" 02/06/2008 04:20:06PM Agent (XPS_Jonathon_159030): "You are welcome. Have a good day." 02/06/2008 04:23:30PM Agent (XPS_Jonathon_159030): "I have noted the account. Please give the customer care agent or the supervisor the case number to review my notes. Please end session when done. I am sorry that I could not do more. Have a good day."
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I thought the same rpomygal.
Also, XPS technical support was not able to order the LG screen for me. At first he couldn't find it, because he was looking for m1530 specific parts. Then he looked for parts in general and found the XK309. But since it wasn't listed as an m1530 part, he could not order it.
I was transfered over to customer care and waited for a CSR to pic up. Nobody did and I hung up. I called either later that day or the next to customer care directly, not going through XPS tecnical support. There was already an open ticket from the previous day and the CSR read it.
That CSR placed the order for an LG XK309. A few days later, I called customer care to get a status update, at the time, I didn't know you can find status on these service orders by looking up your customer number and zip code. He said it was coming out.
A few days later I looked on Dell's website for the status of my order. The original order for the LG was actually canceled by the CSR I called for status. Luckily, he ordered the same exact part number and that is what shipped out.
Not too much work on my side, but I see how easily disaster could have striked.
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I've managed two more tech support calls--india and ireland (system bought in UK), and both have lead to 2-option dead-end: 1) return the system for a refund, 2) your samsung can be replaced with a samsung, no substitutions. Nothing worked--not asking for other item numbers, not saying others had had the replacement, nothing.
So fustrating. I paid for a top-end system with a bottom-end screen. I love this system otherwise. But I can't overlook the glaring issue with what I'll be staring at every time I use my laptop.
I know my system will go back and they will sell it refurbished with the idea that someone will buy it and not know better about the screen.
I like Dell's machines. I hate their service. I just can't find any alternatives. I was looking at alienware and vaios to try to get something of the same power and price and can't find it.
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Wow, these horror stories. The Small Business side of Dell's customer service, must be different then. This lady was so understanding and she never questioned me once.
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Oh, and speaking of which, I took some side-to-side pictures to convince the rep how bad the light leakage is on my screen. Here's my m1530 side-to-side with my 3-year-old inspiron 9100. Both are on with black screens (blank screen saver activated). Second one shows the start menu and quick launch for both screens next to each other in the same XP color scheme--m1530 in front.. See the color washout?
Just thought I'd share.Attached Files:
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But somehow the tech called me in middle of 8am class to set up an appointment for tonite saying that he received the screen. Sure as freaking pooh.. SEC3350. I really don't know if I see much of a difference.. maybe the viewing angles are ever so slightly better but not by a whole heck of a lot.
So basically, the real Y274C could be the LG. Could be the Samsung. The world may never know.
Should I even attempt a round 2?
UPDATE: I contacted XPS support in regards to the issue I had this evening. The kind non-accented rep stated that the LG XK309 screens were only offered for a brief time and have stopped being used.. that no LG screens were being used in any current production or replacement. Only ..Samsung.. was being used. He also tried convincing me that my screen was the best I could get and that no other brand could surpass its quality. Riiiight. I'll believe that when me pooh turns purple and smells like rainbow sherbet.
How do I fix my m1530 Grainy Screen?
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