M1530 & Windows 7 x64 Thread!

Good point. I don't have QuickSet installed as I never had a reason to use it.

 

Ok, I've installed windows seven (this is the 4th time!, not a clean install just upgraded) and I still have the 2.9 score ratio, but my life is great, since i ran HD tach again and I get a 210 mb/s !!! (25% higher than vista) so I asume the score ratio system in seven is not working properly with the HDD Seagate in 64Bits..


Also... very important, after upgrade to seven I check in Device Manager to see the driver I installed before (in the beginning of windows Vista 64X) and it was there!!!.. here is a pic:

So.. this means all this time the ACHI driver was installed!!

Also, maybe somebody want this driver I downloaded it from intel (vista 64bits):

Exe file (install after OS is installed): http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Det...OSs=150&OSFullName=Windows Vista* 64&lang=eng

and floppy (load the driver before install OS): http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Det...OSs=150&OSFullName=Windows Vista* 64&lang=eng

I don't know the difference of install the driver at the beginning or after, but if some body choose to load the driver before install windows you can load it from another partition than the one you are installing the OS (so don't need to use any flash drive, pen drive or floppy drive or whatever stuff like that )

 

Dan beat me to it.. Yeah, those OSD's are all a function of QuickSet and not the driver. I am however curious as to the actual gain installing QuickSet would have in Win7x64. It seems to have power management well under control already..

I am back up with Win 7. I did not dual boot, when I ran HD tach in Vistax32, I saw the same performance drops as TP. Win7 just has a better HD subsystem in it. We saw the same thing when we transitioned our campus from Windows 2000 to XP. Everyone assumed XP would be slower on our hardware (avg system was P2-400Mhz with 256 MB RAM), but I loaded two identical systems with XP and 2K and PCMark. XP systems scored identical in all categories save one, HD performance. HD subsystem saw a 30% increase. The M$ system engineers had worked really hard to streamline that code and succeeded. I should mention that was with XP running the classic interface..

Looks like they did it again because even old systems run better with Win7!!
Ain't nothing wrong with this benchmark!

 

How did you get 5.1 in vista for ram? Mine stayed at 4.8

 

Thought I'd update my WiFi problem from earlier in this thread. This morning I decided to re-install Windows 7 (x64) for the fifth time. I wanted to try loading th AHCI driver during the install to see if it made any difference, since my previous installs showed an Ultra ATA driver from 2006. Well, I loaded the driver during the install, but it made no difference and when it was done I still showed the Ultra ATA driver from 2006. Guess I don't need to bother.

But I noticed that my Intel 4965 WiFi was behaving better. Same driver, but I carried the notebook all over the house and had great speeds. WTH? So I figure that maybe something that I routinely install ultimately breaks it. I've decided to install one thing at a time, and test the WiFi from the far reaches of my mansion ( ) between everything. So far, I've not managed to break it.

Very odd. I'm not kidding when I said this is my 5th clean install, and so far it's the only one with reliable Wifi. Yet I did nothing at all different.

 

Good to hear FH.

I am back on the 2006 drivers and benchmarking faster than ever in HDTach.

 

Im also facing the same problem. I have a st9200420asg (seagate 200 GB 7200 rpm harddisk) and my WEI on windows 7 x64 for my hd is only 2.
When I first installed windows 7, it reproted 2.9 and then I reran the test again and got 1.9. I did a retest again today and got 2.

I don't know what the hell is wrong. Is it my harddrive or its drivers or is it windows 7?
Someone please explain me.

p.s My WEI for my hd in vista x86 is 5.5 and vista x64 is 5.4.

 

It seems like the WEI is slightly broken. To truly compare whether you're losing out on performance do the HDTach/HDTune test on vista and then on win 7 and see if there's a significant difference in speeds. Don't rely on the WEI as a performance benchmark.

 

I used HD tach and measured my hd performace.

Vista x64 - 187 mbps
Windows 7 x64 - 169 mbps

Looks like my harddisk performs faster in vista.
I hope this is only a driver problem.

 

After spending about an hour on my laptop, I finally figured out what was wrong with the HD. My HD tach score now is 173 MBPS and my WEI is


This is what you gotta do,

1. Open device manager
2. Under disk drives, find your main drive
3. Right click your main drive and select properties
4. Policies tab, uncheck the "enable write caching on this device"
5. Click ok, and re-run your WEI

Mine went up from 2 to 5.5

Writing cache on your hd actually slows down your hd access time. It is pretty much useless if you have 3+ gb ram and not using your laptop as a server, so don't worry about re enabling it.

Good luck!
If you find this useful, say thanks

 

I did a seach and it seems like... they changed the way they test HD so this is the reason why the WEI is more hard about harddrive

http://www.neowin.net/forum/lofiversion/index.php/t715378.html

It seems that W7 also mesure the access time of your hard drive which test Vista didn't do.

But, i'll try to uncheck the thing tonight to see what happen because I have only 3.0 for my HardDrive WEI.

Thanks

 

Not true.
Because in vista, writing cache is disabled by default. That's the reason why you get more score in vista. Read my last post and disable caching in windows 7, you'll get the same score as vista in windows 7.

 

OK, so I disabled write caching and my WEI hard-drive score has increased (from 2.0 or something) to 5.3 .

Of course, I have re-enabled write-caching now (because write-caching is a good thing). What this means is that the WEI test is somewhat flawed as write-caching should give a better score, not worse. But anyway, it is what it is, I am satisfied that is the cause of the problem, and not some driver issue as previously surmised.

Also, please stop posting massive-res pictures, it is very annoying.

 

I just installed this on my M1330 (I know, this is for M1530 only, right). One issue I am having is with my intel flash cache module. There is no driver for it so I am unable to get it working. I DLed the driver from the Dell website for Vista x64 but it wouldn't install for some reason.

Any ideas?

 

what about the write caching functionality any more details? I feel kinda reluctant to disable it just for the sake of WEI...

I will run HDtach both with write caching both enabled and disabled and will report back my findings....

 

Write caching should be a good thing for performance, so leave it enabled.

If you like, you can disable it, run WEI to verify that your low score is being cause by that (and not another issue) and then just re-enable it.

 

Well, you guys could uncheck it... do the WEI then... check it back and watch the high score =P

 

Alright..I did a benchmark using hd tune and got some results for you all. OS used windows 7 x64.

Without writing cache:

Code:

http://www.webforone.com/imagehosting/images/91eed6cg1x27242c0s8y.png

With writing cache:

Code:

http://www.webforone.com/imagehosting/images/fpxqsywoyepsxs1lkf8i.png

I personally think writing cache slows down your computer if you don't use your hdd much (eg. copying massive files at the same time from one place to another) because when you write something on your harddrive, it first sends the information to the cache which is more like ram and then slowly writes it to the harddisk in the background which results in slowdown.

My suggestion to you would be turn it on unless you know what you are doing.

 

The Seagate drives with G-Shock (ASG's)have a huge cache for the sole purpose of minimizing the amount of time the heads are floating across the disk surface. This is just on aspect to make the drive less likely to fail in a mobile environment. I would leave caching enabled for general use and maybe disable it during gaming if you are having issues only.

I am having a terrible time typing on this bulged keyboard. Some keys are obviously warped and require extra force to print. I have got to get it fixed.

 

Try installing it in compatibility mode.

 

Ok so i ran both with write caching enabled and disabled....

with write caching ENABLED i get better results. So, in the end i disabled it, ran WEI (which now went from 3.0 to 5.4 for hard disk), and re-enabled the write caching.

Now i've got a "false" high WEI which looks pretty and optimal performance on my drive

 

So I have run 3DMark06, here are my results:
Driver
-WDDM 1.1 (default driver as installed by Windows 7 auto-update) 4702

-179.28 (Nvidia driver from website) 4796

Vista 32-bit score was 4670 with 179.28.
Spec: M1530 T7500 4Gb 8600M

 

Anyone else find the finger print reader completely useless? They recessed it way too much. I uninstalled the app and disabled it..

I just benchmarked my drive in WEI and HDTach. HDTach results dropped with caching off. These seagates are just messing with the WEI. We need to submit bug reports. Drive caching improves performance. That is the whole theory of ReadyBoost and why drives with big cache cost more...

http://maximumpcguides.com/windows-vista/enable-advanced-performance-on-your-hard-drive/

http://www.brighthub.com/computing/windows-platform/articles/21068.aspx

 

No dice. When I run the executable from the dell site it ends with an error saying "This operating system is not supported". If I try to manually update the driver in the device manager it gives me an error saying "The specified program requires a newer version of windows"

 

A followup on my WiFi problem. This morning I installed again and mny wifi was fine. I re-tested after every app install and it remained fine. At some point I made an Acronis image of the working install, just in case.

Mysteriously, tonight my wifi was hosed again. Unbelievable. I hadn't installed anything in hours. Except...I'd just paired my Dell Bluetooth Stereo Headphones. Something I'd always done with every install. Hmmm. The headphones weren't actually on or anything, but I'd gone through the pairing process just before my wifi went all wonky.

So I restored my Acronis image from earlier, and lo and behold my wifi is working fine again. I think I'll NOT pair those BT headphones again and see what happens. If the wifi stays good for a few days, then I'll pair them again and see if it breaks again.

Crazy. Must be something about monkeying with the Bluetooth that mucks up some other networking component related to the Intel Wireless card.

 

Hey I have a question fountain head did you have 5.3 for your hard drive right out of the box in windows 7? And if so what kind of hard drive do u have? I also had 5.3 out of the box. Anyways what I wanted to ask you is in your device manager is your hard drive listed as ATA instead of SATA? Did you try to load any of the dell drivers?

 

I have been watching this thread and finally dual booted Windows 7 x64 with my Vista x64.

I ran the ratings scan after a normal install from disk onto a partition. No extra drivers.

I have a FUJITSU 7200 RPM 250 GB HD from Dell. In Device Manager:

FUJITSU MHZ2250BJ FFS G2 ATA Device

driver version 6.1.7000.0 date: 6/21/2006

EDIT: hahaha
so the ratings are:
Processor: 6.1
Memory: 5.9
Graphics: 5.8
Gaming Graphics: 5.0
Primary hard disk: 5.5

Hope this helps.

Edit: Edit:
the Nvidia driver is 179.23

 

Well that is odd. Anytime I get that error, I run it in computability mode as Vista and it never complains about the version since it believes it is the proper one..


Well, I had to go back to Vistax32 again. Every time I tried to run a game in 7, I would get a BSOD. I will definitely set it up as a dual boot next time. Is everyone successful playing games on Vistax64? Is it worth getting it going instead of Vistax32 as shipped?

 

Yeah, I am guessing it is just that the driver is not really ready for 7 yet. I don't think the Intel Turbo Memory units were that widespread so I doubt they have been working up a driver for it just yet.

Oh well, overall I like this much better than Vista. I actually bought Vista Ultimate when I got my laptop but I hated the OS so much I "upgraded" to XP and have been running that since. I now have two partions, one with XP and one with 7.

 

Maybe you need to refresh yourself on the definition of an Upgrade Install and a Fresh Install.

There are 2 ways to do a "Fresh Install", one puts all of your old Windows files in a Windows.Old folder as you mentioned above. While this keeps all your old files and your old Windows installation, it is useless other than to access your old files in Documents or wherever else you keep them. You have to reinstall all software, extra drivers, and anything else you want. No settings are saved from the previous installation. The OS you just installed is completely new, does not use any old files at all. The only potential problem is if there was a virus that's still lurking in the files, but that's another problem.

The other fresh install way is to format the partition. Either way, you are getting a "fresh install". I usually always format before reinstallation because I have extra hard drives I keep all my files on and its very easy to move over what I need.

An "Upgrade" installation would not make a Windows.Old folder, and it will keep all the software and documents in the same folders, etc.

 

FYI I was having the same issues with a momentus 320. I disabled ahci in the bios (i dont use turbo memory so no use) and my hdd score went up to 5.9 from 2.9 in WEI.

 

Does anyone else have this problem? When I try and open a program from the taskbar (right side with the new pop out thingy) programs wont start intill iv clicked the icon 5-6 times? this happens with most every program that gets minimized like utorrent, pidgin, google earth and so on.

also i have ahci enabled in bios, i use turbo mem, and i get a 5.9 for hard drive

8600 GT
T8300 2.4Ghz
4gigs
windows 7 64 bit
momentus 320
1440x900 LED

 

my windows 7 64x is working so well... it just flies through everything like snap.

games are much smoother than in vista, and im not getting any bugs, except from that WEI score issue, its JUST a bug, that doesn't mean your HD is running slower, its actually gonna run a bit better, not to mention the high pitch sound that the CPU made in vista is now gone in windows 7 .. yay!

i cant wait for the final release!!! ( did i see somewhere that they were putting in a function where the CPU would aid the GPU while gaming ? niiiceee )

 

You have to download the Intel Matrix Storage manager from the Intel site, then unpack the EXE contents into a random folder by executing the appropriate commands and then copy the files to a USB drive and load them before installation. The commands are all in the readme file.

Surprisingly, after switching over to 64-bit, my performance scores soared even higher! 64-bit is definitely worth it.

Here is the link to the driver you want to download:
http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Det...&OSFullName=Windows* XP Professional&lang=eng

Get the iata87enu.exe
If you've got vista, just do:

c:\iata_enu.exe -a -a -pc:\<path>

in the command line. Not the above works if you put the file in the c drive. If you put it elsewhere, change to appropriate directory. The <path> is the folder you want the driver files to be extracted to.

 

I did what u wrote here and the files were extracted, but I cant find them. They were extracted to random folder - how can I find it?

 

I just took delivery of a loaded M1530 from the Dell Outlet store (Intel 9500, 6GB RAM, Blu-Ray writer, Samsung 128GB SSD, nVidia 8600) and the first thing I did was blow away all the partitions and load the Win7 x64 beta.

The only drivers I had to install from Dell were:

1. The fingerprint suite
2. The Sigmatel HD Audio.
3. The Intel matrix storage manager from Intel's site (took the SSD's Win7 score from 5.9 to 6.0).
4. The various webcam software.

I also installed the Dell touchpad drivers, but I doubt if those were necessary.

Next step is reinstalling the Roxio Creator Suite to see if the Blu-Ray writing also works. Anything else I should consider reinstalling from the Dell site?

 

had x64 since its release and yes its still quite good. just got a few things that have come up

1. video drivers went kaput today, strange so just updated them and fine.
2. only had 1 BSOD so far, in 3weeks still amazed how stable it is
3. laptop is getting stupidly hot, under the palmrests (never done this before) i suspect windows power options arent slowing the cpu down, and hence the lack of battery life, perhaps a new driver from dell?

anyone that uses fingerprint reader is a noob, and stop crying about hdd speeds in windows benchmark makes no difference in the real world! run an independent hdd benchmark and see for yourself.

anyone know when W7 is going on sale?

 

Hey all

need a hand. Windows 7 x64 is having problems with my SD card. I have downloaded the Vista x64 drivers from dell that i could find, installed them, restarted. Everytime i look at the drive in Windows Explorer, it appears to be corrupt or unreadable, however winXP can see them fine.


These SD cards are 4gb, NON-HC versions

i truly believe it's a driver issue, or my hardware is no good. Any Ideas?

 

Has anyone else noticed that fans don't seem to come on in full when doing processor/GPU intensive tasks? Under Vista x64 the max temperatures I'd see were in the range of 77 GPU and 55-60 CPU, and under Windows 7 I'm seeing upwards of 85+ GPU and 75 CPU with the GPU downclocking periodically.

 

Can anyone recommend a driver for the dell wireless 1505 card? The default one installed with Windows 7 seems to disable the wireless adapter when it goes into sleep and I have to reboot before it works again.
I can't seem to access the "Allow windows to disable this device to conserve power" option in the wireless card's properties with the default driver. I believe this option can fix the sleep issue.

 

now.... my question to y'all

i have the Toshiba 320GB hdd, and the AHCI driver installed. i get a 2.0 score for hard disk.
could it be that the score is partition dependent? like... if the partition is at the end of the drive, you will get a much lower score since r/w speed is lower? and if you have win7 partition at the beginning of the drive, you get that really nice hard disk score? i am wondering if windows uses just the windows partition to asses the HDD score and therefore it is lower if the partition is closer to the end of the HDD?

fingerprint software... get it from upek.. much newer and made for
windows 7

dell driver... if you get a specific version... 7.102.101.213 gives ya circular scrolling which is pretty amazing! this one you can get it from a different model.. probably an E series notebook [EDIT] see two posts down for driver links

 

for wireless with a dell 1505... search for this package: R206848
http://support.dell.com/support/dow...-1&impid=-1&formatcnt=1&libid=5&fileid=289450

works perfectly fine for me!

 

oki... these are the latest drivers for 64-bit that i use:

broadcom wireless: http://support.dell.com/support/dow...-1&impid=-1&formatcnt=1&libid=5&fileid=289450

bluetooth: http://support.dell.com/support/dow...-1&impid=-1&formatcnt=1&libid=5&fileid=286236

touchpad: http://support.us.dell.com/support/...eid=R198082&formatcnt=1&libid=0&fileid=273826

power settings for maximum battery life: http://support.dell.com/support/dow...-1&impid=-1&formatcnt=1&libid=7&fileid=248262

webcam software: http://support.dell.com/support/dow...1&impid=-1&formatcnt=1&libid=25&fileid=229607

fingerprint reader: http://files.upek.com/SendPackage.asp?Key=48113R097OLOW488XGXJ2V2LUH1NKAIA&ID_Files=291

intel matrix storage: http://www.station-drivers.com/tele...el_msm_8.8.0.1009(www.station-drivers.com.exe

 

I meant the model of the Dell wireless card is 1505, not the actual model of the laptop. It seems the one you have provided is for an intel wireless card. Thanks anyhow.

 

nope this is for a dell 1505 wireless card that's what i meant in the post. trust me! the download will work for it!

 

new driver for broadcom cards: http://support.us.dell.com/support/...eid=R212337&formatcnt=1&libid=0&fileid=299339

ignore the name... on the website it says it is for Asus wireless cards, but it is a Broadcom driver since the Asus card is Broadcom based.

 

Hi everyone,

I was hoping to install Windows 7 on my M1530, but am having serious trouble doing so.

The version I am trying to install is 7057.

During the install phase I get "the required cd/dvd device drivers is missing".

My DVD drive is a TEAC DVW28SLC; I have searched for drivers / firmware for this drive but have not been able to find anything. I have read dozens of posts about this error, but none of the provided solutions seem to work.

What I have tried so far:

• Using the intel chipset drivers during install
• Changing from ATA to AHCI in BIOS

None with success. Any help would be greatly appreciated; I can't believe it is not possible to simply install Windows 7 on my laptop

 

I have the same drive, didn't had any problems installing 7057 x64 from a DVD-RW.
Make sure to check the hash of the iso, file might be corrupt. If its fine, try burning another DVD with lowest speed. You can also install from a flash drive.

 

Thanks for your fast reply; I appreciate it.

I also had the same problem with a previous x64 version of Windows 7; I doubt it has anything to do with the burning speed of the DVD. If nothing else works, using a flash drive is probably an option, but I'd really rather fix this problem.

 

umm.. try and get a firmware upgrade if available for the drive...
use the AHCI enabled, since you will have a better data transfer speeds, and try and re-download the image and check the md5 and make sure they match. sounds like you just have a bad burn... try and use a different brand of dvd's.... i used the el-cheapo stuff and they always seem to fail when burning... but the brand name ones are much better...