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    New Dell XPS L521X (Ivy Bridge)

    Discussion in 'Dell XPS and Studio XPS' started by htrex, Mar 10, 2012.

  1. Elands

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    Which is another reason why thunderbolt is cool is because you can use it as a minidisplay port with those cables and adapters.
     
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    if the 14 is 4 lbs I really don't think I'll notice a huge difference between it and my 3 lb XPS 13.

    Just wish the info would come down. I'm only 5 days into my 21 day period and I like the 13, but I'd likely go for the 14 if given the choice.
     
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    I definitely can at launch time, if this product exists in the future.
    Can't comment specifically, but in general, TB adoption rates by consumers or peripheral makers are not relatively high at the moment. I can say that much, because it's public knowledge.

    I have no idea. Don't mean to sound snooty, but I work in product marketing. I'm not the greatest resource for transactional activities like coupons and discounts. I'm just out of that loop. Sorry I can't be more helpful.
    If this product were to exist, and I'm not saying it does, you would need a 2 yr old with a functional index finger to spot you.

    If a tree falls in a forest...
    Since the product does not exist, I cannot say whether it compares in noise level to the M14xR2. I will say our engineers have been looking at fan noise in general for a while now, and they seem happy.
     
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    MDP exists only because is royalty free contrary to the HDMI.
    Apple decided to adopt it really for this reason.
    If MDP become standard on every device and HDMI removed you will pay less :D

    Which devices are benefited by the TB use? Or will pay more for useless thing?
    What the sense of TB on external hard disk?
     
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    Bill you probably can't answer this. But will the processor choices be identical between the 14 and 15, as in full voltage, or will the 14 inch have ulv processors. This is all I need to know to make a choice and if you can give me an answer in any cryptic way you can think of, that would be great :p
     
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    i think it should be available but i knw usual the collage / university handles that like UWI --- (University Of the West Indies) all we do is configure our system specs online drop it in they apply the school / student discount and let us know the price go to the bank and fill out the form & PAY drop off the form an receipt then wait for our systems to reach on campus. other than that idk how it works for u
     
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    the general consensus is that 3 USB 3.0 ports is enough as opposed to 4 and i think i can live with that cuz my printer is WiFi with wireless scanning so after the only port ill lose the the port my MX Logitech anywhere mouse is plugged into although i wish Logitech would come out with a blue tooth 4.0 version of it lol so that means 2 flash drives can fit at a time ......

    @ thunderbolt ppl its not widely adopted by pc manufacturers or peripheral manufacturers as yet so even if its there what will you do with it buy an apple cinema display and use that ???? .......
    the only way i see a thunderbolt port being used is to replace HDMI, VGA and DP with an adapter that goes from TP to HDMI and TB to DP /VGA ....

    @ bill can u comment on the audio system ?? is it 2.1 speakers are they JBL ???
     
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    A little out of topic, but asking to you all anyway!

    Since I'm also looking at Latitude (The E6530 to be precise) as an alternative to the hypothetical non-existing L521x, I was hoping to get a fair comparison between the only offered discreet card of the latitude and the rumored GT 640M

    I've seen theses both pages ( NVS 5200 and the GT 640M) and I'm a bit confused, since I do not know as much as some of you do!

    From my perpective, both card are comparable (both also are GDDR5 [if you believe the rumors for XPS]), but where they differ a lot, is in the number of CUDA cores and the 1gb difference in ram... Also, I didn't find any info about the underlying architechture or power/thermal specs!

    In my eyes, it doesn't seem so bad, and it offers all of the technolgies/features of the GT 640M, those quite important to me : Optimus, HDCP (blu-ray), PureVideo, DX11, PhysX, DirectCompute, OpenGL 2.x and OpenCL.

    I would like to know your opinion on how less powerful this option would be, or if there are any "consumer card" that compare to the NVS 5200 so I can make my own opinion! (I remember the old time where you could say FX2500 = 7900GTX for example)

    In terms of needs, I'll mostly need it for multimedia (discreet not really needed for that), and some profesionnal 3d work. But I would like to still have the possibility to play a few games, most probably not the most graphic intensive one though as I'm guessing!

    P.S. For those who are asking why I'm considering Latitude instead -> I'm not too happy about the lack of expansion possibilities offered by the consumer laptop these years... My old "consumer" inspiron at least had an expresscard slot!

    But in the end, I'm gonna make my decision between june 22th and July 1st :D What's gonna be a major tipping point is cost! The Latitude comes at quite a steep price with the options I want!
     
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    I believe only 2 ports are USB3 the other maybe is USB2 in according to specs of Intel chipset that can drive only 2 ports USB3.
    Otherwise they would have to integrate an appropriate controller only for an ulterior usb3 port.
     
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    This is the closest one I can find with the same number of cores, clock speed, etc. GeForce GT 620M - GeForce
     
  12. Skareem2

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    true haven't looked at the chipset for the xps yet but .... it should come with all usb 3 because the inspirons are all usb 3 well in some configurations @ least
     
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    Inspiron 15R SE have 4 USB3 ((3) USB 3.0 + (1) USB 3.0 PowerShare) :eek:, i have just seen pics in official Dell site.
     
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    What kind of port is that one near to the power connector in XPS14 and XPS15? (doesn't looks Ethernet...)

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    Ethernet port
     
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    I think this is underneath of XPS14, the question is: where is the speakers?
    (I'm a little worried about thermal dissipation...)

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    IMO this is the XPS 13.
    We are still all looking for the speakers!
     
  18. Jarakin

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    Nah, I need a professional looking laptop, but even if I didn't, I think that the alienware is chunky and ugly.
     
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    As above, I think this is the XPS13
     
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    Uhm, you have reason, i found an image in official Dell site of XPS13 underneath and is the same, but I do not see the speakers even for of the XPS13 :confused:
     
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    I agree. I don't like the looks of the Alienware, or I'd get it in a second.
     
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    agree, but i think because they are so powerful they cant be any slimmer (heat, etc.)
     
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    They don't have to be slimmer. Just less... Ugly? Even the Clevos look better
     
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    I just checked out the XPS13 owner's manual to see where the speakers were and they are hidden behind the carbon back case. You can't see them without taking off the rear case. I suspect it will be the same on the XPS14 and XPS15. As such I don't expect the sound to be very "pure" and as good as Bill leads us to believe it is... Just my little 0.02
     
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    In the same way I saw that the touchpad is not fully clicklable and the clicks are located at the bottom of the touchpad (we knew that part though!).
     
  26. Jarakin

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    I agree, if there was a professional version of it - an XPS or latitude, I'd get it in a heartbeat.
     
  27. Elands

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    The Alienware's tend to be a tad overpriced on some components though. Especially if you compare it to a Clevo or Sager.
     
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    The professional version of an Alienware is a Dell Precision.

    Inviato dal mio GT-I9100 con Tapatalk 2
     
  29. ejl1980

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    Unfortunately they haven't released any with IB
     
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    lol told you so then the XPS should have 2 USB 3.0 and one USB 3.0 with power share

    as for speakers i'm thinking mac book pro style with some JBL speakers on earthier side of the ugly keyboard and a sub woofer sum where in there like what the 17" Samsung series 7 chronos has
     
  32. Elands

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    I'm also very curious about the speakers. I hope to god they stay with JBL and not the Skullcandy... Wish Bill could tell us just a little more about type/placement/etc.
     
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    skullcandy not bad i have had their headphones they sound good to me but JBL is better y not let Bose design some speakers an chambers for the XPS lol

    would be sweet if they kept the same speakers but made the cambers more compact to fit in the upcoming xps

    but i have a nagging feeling that the speakers are to the front -_- without a sub woofer

    heck the could put the regular speaker and a subwoofer of the same size in one chamber to have a 2 chambers one left one right with 2 speakers for a total of 4 speakers sub woofers can be 2 x6w and the other 2 can be 2 x 4w for 20w of audio

    but ill be happy with 15w of audio in the form of 9w subwoofer 2 x3w speakers
     
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    Bill did mention no sub-woofer which is unfortunate, I just hope they don't take too many steps back from the audio quality of the L502x. That is a major selling point to a lot of people.
     
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    i agree but even if there is no dedicated sub woofer they could have done like apple one regular speaker for highs and mids and a min subwoofer for the lows in one chamber with 2 chambers for l and r to keep audio quality
     
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    I'm curious. What do people use the speakers for, in general? Speakers have never been a selling point for me on a laptop but, granted, I'm not sure I've ever bought a laptop that had reportedly great speakers. Is the sound really that great?
     
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    music, gaming, movies ............. i need to hear at least some bass and classical music should come out clear and full ............. other than that my dell sound system works
     
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    Yeah i watch a ton of TV and Movies on my laptop...and sound is important - i had a XPS 1330 and the sound was not great and the max level was pretty low - if i had a fan on in the room i couldn't hear the speakers well. out of a 15 inch laptop i would expect above avg sound minimum.
     
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    I just plug my Logitech sound system to my laptop when at home and when on the move I use quality headphones, hence laptop speakers obsolete
     
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    half OT because Bill is active in this thread most of his worthful time. ^^ A question about the graphics memory of the regular 2012 Inspiron 17R's (not SE) GT 630M:

    At German press release Dell wrote "(...) optional NVIDIA-GeForce-GT-630M-Grafikkarte mit 1 GB GDDR5-Speicher".

    At 17R product page its called just "1 GB nVidia GeForce GT 630M".

    So what kind of memory the 630M in 17R uses? I asked Dell Chat but this is hopeless, you get (overstated, but not mutch ^^) six statements from three assistants there. +_+
     
  41. DvP

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    I just checked some future competitiors of the new XPS notebooks and it seams that hardly any is available so far. Looks like Dell will be still one of the first if they are prepared to put the new XPS on sale at the end of June.

    @ AX-Turbo
    German press release? Where can I find it?
     
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    Is there a big difference performance-wise between the ULV and full voltage processors? All I know is that the ULVs consume a lot less power but is there much of an effect on the performance?
     
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    Much too much heat!

    Ich you search my posts you might find benchmarks ;-) ULV improved greatly in terms of performance, much more than the regular versions and consume about 50% of the power. Performance is not that slower by such a big margin. The new top ULV is faster than some i5 (full V) sandy bridge CPUs. Depends how much raw power you really need but if you have no special requirements which are off the average a ULV would be fast enough. Definitely!
    Most PCs are CPU overpowered anyway. For games the ULV would definitely have enough power to keep a 650m busy if the resultion is more than 1024x....
     
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    you can find it here.
     
  47. DvP

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    Oh, cool! Even nicer. Inspiron 17R features 650M with 2GB DDR5 :) Good to know that Dell thinks about DDR5 and uses up to 2GB.

    Edit:
    Just saw....notebookcheck says that Vostro 3360 display is crap :-/

    Edit2:
    To explain the posting below -> The 3612QM is the only i7 quad which has 35W TDP...all other have i7 have 45W. The i7 U 3667 has 17W TDP.
     
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    The new IVB i7 ulv (3667) is a beast. 2GHz turbo to 3Ghz! 4MB cache. That's some pretty heavy lifting for 17w. That and the 3612QM are the most impressive in the refresh. The desktops are not even noteworthy.
     
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    Damnit why must it be in German! XD I want an english version.
     
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