New Dell XPS L521X (Ivy Bridge)

What is a USB 3.0 with powershare?

 

Oh yeah I know. I just wish they had an english version of the 3360 up on notebookcheck. I'm looking at the 3460 but I figured some things like build quality might be comparable. Heat and Noise I'm taking with a grain of salt because of the smaller form factor. Sadly, I expected a fairly poor screen. I can live with it though, it being matte is more of a big deal for me considering I have an IPS monitor at home.

 

yea i use good headphones buy sometimes u wanna watch a movie with family or friends or play music relatively loud so good speakers are a must good loudness good volume a little bass wont hurt and good clarity

 

I'm trying to decide between this xps and the new HP envy 15. What, if anything do you guys think makes the xps better?

 

If I'm not mistaken it means you can plug something into while the laptop is sleeping and it will still charge it. Meaning you can charge your phone or ipod without having it awake.

 

sucks that the MBP gets the 650m and we get a 640m.....

 

We don't know clock of MBP gt650m, but min difference on 640m can be only 110MHz also XPS have 2GB instead of 1GB.

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im guessing the 640m was for thermal reasons rather than the gt650 or gt660m that would push alot of heat ....... idk just my 0.02c
but remember the new xps is really slim MBP slim an that overheats so weaker card = less thermal issues

 

Does anyone have the performance difference between a 2GB GDDR5 640M and a 1GB GDDR5 650M?

 

The instant review (24 hours of testing -- not nearly enough to warrant a 9 out of 10) on The Verge stated that the MBPwRD gets just as hot and at times even hotter than previous MBPs. Apple has done nothing to dissipate the heat and shrunk down the chassis to make it more marketable whilst simultaneously making the device less comfortable for users. Imagine that.

At least the new XPS will be large enough to handle heat exhaust presumably through the display hinge. The MBPwRD coupled with 1GB and its attempt to power the highest rez available is a sure-fire recipe for Three Mile Island.

Don't get caught up in the numbers game. Wanting the 650m is like wanting a 12mp camera on your cell. It's not the mps that matter -- it's the quality of the lens and the sensor. The 640m with 2GB of GDDR5 and MSI Afterburner or the like to OC the GPU and you'll be happy as a clam.

 

Can't give a head-on, real-world comparison, but the links have the tech specs if you want 'em. There is only a 110Mhz - 225Mhz difference in the core speed, and with OC'ing you can close the gap. Also, remember that when the XPS 15 first came out it did not have the same GPU options as it did as of a month ago. It's very possible Dell ups the ante over the coming months, offers a 650m and a new BIOS to deal with the heat and fan. They've done it in the past.

640m
NVIDIA GeForce GT 640M - Notebookcheck.net Tech

650m
NVIDIA GeForce GT 650M - Notebookcheck.net Tech

 

true im not gonna game much with this any way so a 640m should be cool for nfs and some cod and others ......

i also want the lenovo y580 but the gt660m with 2gb ddr5 is overkill since it might not get used much ............ idk i rather a cool system than a hot 1 sorry mbp

 

Thanks Muffin just as long as this boy can run Diablo III I'll be happy as said clam

 

well by the time i make up my mind and ready to order august September time frame the 650m should be available

 

They say D3 runs on the 650m with full everything at 25-30 fps. That gives an indication of where the 640m stands. I'd rather have the 650 too, but it's not a deal-breaker for me.

 

The only site i trust for reviews is notebookcheck
they may not be the more knowledgeable reviews but they are pretty objective and consistent in their reviews, as long as you know how to pick the right information from there.
So the verge says it gets pretty hot around u key, how about everywhere else, how about internally temperature.
would like to see a comparison between computers.
640m ddr5 should be pretty close to gt650m, and should be the best power consumption/performance available which is pretty nice

 

That's why I would always take a 640 instead of a 650 but the FullHD display will kill both GPUs anyway in terms of gaming. Still hope that there will be a 15" model with lower resolution or I will go for the 14" + U CPU which has much lower TDP (maybe even close to 50-60%) and heat also.

 

You say that 650m is very hot for a 0.95 chasis or slimer but also you expect dell will offer you a 650m in a few moths... What that means?

 

hope this is al fault on there site: "Full HD WLED Display 3-D (17,3-inch, 200 nits, 1920 x 1080 pixels". I tought a screen should have more nits, espacially for a 3D screen when you're wearing such glasses drops the brightness a lot.

 

I highly prefer Dell's looks over AW's and like the look of the new XPS 15. I would love a black option, I just don't care for the silver.

Please don't jump to conclusions for the sake of condescending. That was completely unwarranted. If you want to talk about professional, immediately judging people based on their color or style preference is anything but.

 

It's DDR5. From the tech sheet:
NVIDIA® GeForce® GT 630M 1GB GDDR5 graphics memory (opt)

Are we talking about the same system? Launched in the UK same day as Germany.
Inspiron 17R laptop — 3rd Gen | Dell UK

 

Not saying the 650m doesn't run in a slimmer MBP chassis, but like all Apple products it was built for aesthetics and not necessarily optimal, everyday usage. Form over function has always been their motto.

That said, if the MBPwRD can have a 650m with a decent but not great fps and performance output, just imagine what a thicker chassis with "more room to breathe" will do for the same GPU. I guarantee you a 650m in the new XPS 15 will never run as hot as it does on the MBPwRD. It doesn't have to push such a high and unnecessary rez.

 

Not Inspiron 17R, but instead Inspiron R Special Edition.

 

@ bill can u comment on the sound system is there a subwoofer ? are they JBL and the wattage even speaker placement info would be nice

 

It's been hinted already that a sub woofer wouldn't fit in such a small chassis.

 

I'm a bit confused. Where did we get confirmation that the XPS 15 will have a GT640M instead of a GT650M?

 

Bill,I am bored of waiting! My purchase will now mostly depend on the display quality(as I have raised questions on this several times) and all other things of L521x are really great(as it seems)! Any screen talk?

 

sigh i really hope they do a apple like approach an just put two subwoofers next to each of the main speakers ....

 

Im pretty sure it was from the time the specs were accidentally posted on the dell website. I don't think we know what the gpu options are for the 14 yet. Correct me if I'm wrong.

 

I agree, but the question is why dell doesnt offer 650m if they may nanage overheat? Wich is the difference between 640 and 650 in thermal terms?
Do you think optical drive will be a disadvantage against apple for cooling?

 

Oh wow! Hopefully Dell uses that one in the XPS15 also...that would make me buy it instantly .

 

Thanxx Bill, thats a statement. One Dell chat assistant would tell me today, the GT630M @ 17R non-SE is a misrepresentation, it also uses the GT 650M with 1 GB. Michael Dell himself should give you a pay raise, because it seems that you are the only suitable information source at the whole Dell empire.

 

I was referencing the Vostro 3360 review on notebookcheck.com

 

Why don't they? We won't know for sure until Bill drops the bomb on us. If they don't offer it, it will be for cost reasons -- Dell's, which in turn would be passed on to the consumer. But obviously the 650 is the same size as the 640, so it's not unreasonable to assume it could be an option at some point in the future.

Thermals, I can't speak to. I haven't seen the details yet.

Apple's goal was to create a thinner MBP with a higher rez. To achieve that and still make it usable, they needed more battery power, which is why they nixed the ODD. The new XPS 15 is thicker, thus better air circulation and still has room for an ODD. It's the best of both worlds, regardless of whether it comes with the 650m or 640m.

 

By removing the ODD ( which most people seldom use ) one can have not only large batteries,effective cooling system but also you can have space for a secondary HDD and raid configuration!

 

Yep, that would have been nice, and I suspect the real reason why most of us would have ever considered a 17" version. 17-inchers were born to be organ donors of sorts. And I won't use the ODD that often either -- would have rather had a larger battery myself. I remember a thousand years ago when Dell had hot-swappable modules for batteries, ODDs, etc. Form factors are too thin now, but, oh, those endless summer nights...

 

The XPS is a multimedia line though and without an ODD there could be lost sales to movie watching enthusiasts who purchase it for the multimedia aspect. Plus it is a nice thing to have rather than not have for people that would never use a 2nd HDD or even know what a RAID is.

 

There is msata connector, so we can use a msata SSD, who needs raid?

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One don't have to know raid for using it, he will be surprised by the speed.... It will be better if it comes as an option, either ODD or 2nd HDD+RAID ( like Clevo) though it will increase the cost of production!

 

RAID is for sheer performance.....

 

Trust me I would love to have it set up like that the problem is the axed the 17" which would be perfect to keep the ODD and than have that option for the 15. Unfortunately the small group of us that would want it don't make up a big enough population of buyers to make it worth while... Oh the annoyance of wanting the best technologies

 

Many people consider the ODD as a deal breaker, it's not fair to take it away just to put a 2nd hard disk. Most softwares are distributed through CD/DVD, and as has been said before XPS 15 is a multimedia laptop, so I don't think that removing the ODD would be a good idea. Yes, maybe it could be an option, but I guess there would be production problems

 

same goes with thunderbolt! yeah,now TB has no great demands but after 2-3 years your old laptop can still have the edge with TB!

 

Can't talk any specifics yet. As it stands now, we are around 2 weeks away. Dates can shift, but I think we're pretty set at this point on the launch day.

Oh. My bad.

 

2-3 years doesn't change, that TB is a piece of crap... so I won't miss it

 

Thunderbolt is basically the wired version of the leper that is WiMAX. It does it's job, though it's expensive to implement, and will be supplanted by the more practical LTE, in this case, USB 3.0. TB provides up to 1.0 GB of throughput, USB 3.0 up to 500 MB. TB just isn't enough of a boost to warrant widespread adoption. And by the time it could make it mainstream, we'd have USB 4.0. TB, we hardly knew ye.

 

Or maybe TB will be removed from market...

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Thunderbolt is actually 10Gb/s data transfer

 

This threads turned to a general discussion lately.. Everyone knows all they're going to know for now.. Anything else we won't know until launch day! Just counting it down now.. 14, 13

 

Pesky decimals...