New Dell XPS L521X (Ivy Bridge)

Well, there's no subwoofer--that's fact--so low-end sound will be worse. And due to size, it's almost physically impossible for the speakers to be better, anyway.

 

The old one had a 12w subwoofer build into it. It was regarded as one of the/the best sounding laptops. The new one does not have a subwoofer...

 

I think that a 14 inches gaming laptop is just a nonsense: too small display...

 

Good for you, not everyone feels that way, especially when size-wise the m14x is nearly a 15" laptop, I'd game on a 13.3" if they had decent graphics cards in them.

 

well as for sound the Lenovo has JBL speakers 1.5w x 2 and it sounds gr8 from what i hear loud and clear just little to no bass .... so the XPS will have 2w x 2 JBL speakers i hope will sound loud and clear as well just lack bass also ......

i think dell should have done like the MBP and included a small sub woofer even if it was a 3 ,4 or 5w sub woofer it would have helped the sound

or do like hp Envy and use two mini sub woofers if space was an issue

im just interested to see how the internal components are in the new XPS @ 0.91" ....

as for people complaining about internal batteries every year battery tech is improving i mean u want high portability and still a removable battery seriously its either u want a slim system with inbuilt battery or a bulky system where u can have spare batteries and they are easy to change

 

Hi,

I've been following the this thread for a while but just created my account.

I found a link inside of the dell website that refers to the L521X computer. I think something similar to this was posted at some point but it was taken down by dell.

The page has a flash animation on the upper right corner where you can see different images of the computer. Also it has some information about ports and peripherals. (I used Google translator to get this information).

Below are the links for the original website and also for the Goggle translated version.

original:
Nowość! Dell XPS 15 — informacje szczegółowe o notebooku do rozrywki | Dell Polska

translated:
Google Translate

Hopefully this is helpful for others as well.

 

was posted already but thanks anyways

 

Furmark is only an easy and standard way to reproduce 100% of load on GPU, but almost all games can do this.
I like to have some margin to PSU also because maybe you have to enjoy with smaller, lighter weight power adapter, but i think you don't like 60° temp of PSU as on Samsung review.
When a component works often to its limit usually its life could be more short

 

Most games will not run 100% GPU load, most of the time. Furmark represents a marginal case. Secondly, most users of an XPS 15 will not exceed 90W, or perhaps even go near it. So, they will not benefit from a higher-power PSU and will probably not desire the extra weight. Dell is likely to focus on the common case, rather than the marginal case, and so will favor including the 90W adaptor. Maybe Dell should offer a 120W adaptor for people who are really worried about 100% GPU use cases.

On the other hand, I do have doubts about the XPS 15 configuration commonly reaching 90W in a gaming situation. I think it is best to wait for release before we conclude on whether a higher-power adaptor is required.

 

I agree with you, I want wait until first reviews specially for those of Anandtech and notebookcheck.
if I remember correctly, in previous XPS generation PSU changing on destination market, in my country all L502X had 120W, i5 too.
In some other markets lower config. of L502X are sent with 90W PSU.

 

Hi, guys. Do you guys think we can change the original hard drive in xps 14 to ssd by our own?

 

Considering the psu can probably overdraw by about 10-15w, and we're talking a 35w cpu and 25-35w gpu... I can't see hitting 90w even at full bore.

 

No way, were did you hear that. My laptop has a subwoofer and I know the l502x was one of the best speakers. Anyone got proof no jbl subwoofer speakers.

 

Are you referring to the L502x or the L521x? The old versions, 01 and 02, both had subwoofers. The new one does not according to Dell's website:

"High Definition Audio + Waves MaxxAudio ® 4
2 W x 2 = total of 4"

It would say 2.1 if there was a subwoofer with about 12W performance. Thus, no sub on the new XPS 15. Also, nowhere yet have I seen confirmation of the new XPS using JBL speakers again. It's likely, but not confirmed.

 

If you go back in thread you can find some link to official Dell polish website.
None JBL speakers in L521x and none subwoofer.
Audio is High Definition Audio + Waves MaxxAudio® 4
2 W x 2

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Damn. It's costly

$1600
Amazon.com: Dell XPS XPS15-9375sLV 15-Inch Laptop (Silver): Computers & Accessories

Amazon.com: Dell XPS XPS14-9092sLV 14-Inch Laptop (Silver): Computers & Accessories

 

Don't trust the first link. It says the laptop weighs 10.58 pounds!

Edit: the listed cache sizes for the CPU's are wrong too. The 14" should be 3MB, not 36MB, for example.

 

I would like to know who is the source of 25-35W GPU, previous generation gt540m was around 45W.
In a laptop there aren't only CPU & GPU, there are chipset, display, HDD, ODD, Wireless card, 8GB Ram, 2GB GDDR5, speakers and maybe a mSata SSD...

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Actually, that's the funny thing about Amazon. Never trust the specs because they have no reason to get them right. But always trust the price -- you better believe it's in their best interest to get that part right.

 

Uh...540m == 40nm, 640m == 28nm. The 660m is a 45w part, HDD is 3w, ODD is maybe 3w, RAM is nothing, GDDR5 is included in the TDP of the GPU, the msata is 3w, 3+3+3+2+25-35+35=71-81w

 

in the first leaked pic the XPS 14 sheet card said 2.1 audio with JBL speakers if any one has the link send it to me let me check again

 

Starts at 1299 for base. Those are probably higher end configs with the wrong specs. I have the same xps15 in my cart that starts at 1299. It's removed by amazon now but I posted it about 20 pages ago.

True story. The specs seem to be the same for every amazon link but the prices are different.

Amazon probably got the prices right

 

If you mean this one...



...you're right about the JBL part, but I thought we all debunked the specs on the card because of the year-old GPUs and the "3D" -- whatever that meant. Whoever typed up that card either did not know what they were talking about, or the 14 is coming better equipped in some specs than the 15.

 

LoL why ram is nothing?
I still don't see any source for tdp of Gpu and what kind of ram and what amount is included in its tdp.
Where's chipset, speakers, Wireless card, backlit keyboard?

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RAM barely uses any power, you're really overthinking this. 90w is more than enough, this is not the first laptop with these types of components and a 90w or less PSU, MBPr has a higher draw screen and a higher draw gpu with an 85w psu, you aren't going to throttle, and if you're that worried, finding a 120w dell psu is the easiest thing in the world

 

Guys, as far as power requirements go, keep in mind that the manufacturer can also tune the computer so that power is less of an issue.

Either way: The MSI GE70 has an i5-3210M (35W CPU), a GT650M (More than 640M obviously), and a 17 inch 1080P screen. It only pulls 85.8 watts maximum at load with Furmark.

Edit: http://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-MSI-GE70-i547W7H-Notebook.76785.0.html forgot to link.

The point of this is to point out that the XPS15 would have a very tough time exceeding 85 watts on a 15 inch screen, with the same TDP CPU and a smaller GPU, and smaller screen.

 

well i guess the sound system's not gonna be good then smh ........ if its to expensive ill go inspiron or lenovo ...smh

 

I have seen a MBP previous generation review, it's doesn't have almost problems with 90w PSU under OS X, but under Windows it throttling.
It is as if Windows request more power than OS X, so maybe is better to not consider MBP in this comparison specially if it is under OS X.


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The GT660M has a 45W TDP. The GT640M is an underclocked, undervolted TDP of the 660M, therefore it will draw significantly less power.

The kind of RAM in the GPU doesn't even matter. RAM uses so little power that DDR5 doesn't distinguish itself from DDR3 in the TDP, or vice versa.

Notebookcheck:

so we know that the 640M pulls less power than the 540M

The speakers, wireless card, backlit keyboard, ODD, HDD, all of that will probably consume ~10W. Nothing substantial at all. (I wouldn't be surprised if it was less).

RAM is nothing because, technologically, it consumes very little power.

Then see my review at the top of this page. An MSI notebook with the same TDP CPU, a higher TDP GPU, and a bigger screen pulls less than 90W in Furmark.

 

Thats old gen. that has a 45nm cpu.

 

On the off chance, and I really do think its very unlikely, that at absolute peek power draw the XPS 15 exceeds 90w then just get a 120w power adapter. It is common knowledge that real world applications never push as hard as when you use Furmark. In the real world there are many small bottlenecks along the way that keep the GPU from being pushed as hard as specialized software like Furmark. Don't get me wrong, I would be very disappointed if Dell ships a power adapter that cannot handle the load of the laptop. However, Dell doesn't have a history of these kind of mistakes and it is simple(and cheap) enough to fix this on your own, if you must.

 

The specs on the card are off. The XPS 14 on display, however, is brand new. That's why I said something is afoot.

 

okay the design looks new.

 

Does anyone know if you can change the SSD?

I'd want to remove the 32GB, replace it with 128 GB (the fastest one I can find) then remove the HDD and replace with my current Intel SSD.

Storage isn't a requirement for me but performance & battery life are. Hopefully this can be done on the 14. Not interested in the 15, too big for my liking.


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I'm very happy if XPS15 works as MSI reviewed from Notebookcheck, but for now there aren't enough data to be sure of that.
For example this is a piece of review Samsung series 7 (now in English):
Review Samsung Series 7 Chronos 700Z7C Notebook - Notebookcheck.net Reviews

Notebook reviewed has in idle power consumption between 12-21W
Samsung Series 5 (from same producer with same components) has idle power consumptions between 9-15W.
Therefore it is not so obvious that XPS15 does not exceed 90W, when notebooks from same producer with almost same part have so different power consumptions.

As I say before, I will wait a serious review from Anandtech or Notebookcheck to be sure to all work fine

 

14 xps Carrera? Is that a code name or what?

 

Also notice that those are the absolute highest models you can get. 8gb Ram, i7 processor, 750gb HDD. Don't worry my friend, I don't think a site that has it at 10lbs is going to have the accurate price either

 

Well that wasn't entirely the point. I'm just saying that power consumption can be affected largely by the manufacturer's tuning. I'm also just pointing out that it's possible to get the type of components in question under 90 watts easily, and from what I know, Samsung doesn't really optimize their stuff very well.

That said, the XPS -could- go over 90 watts, I would just be surprised. And you're obviously more than welcome to wait for a review

 

That is more than likely the shipping weight since amazon often lists both

 

Yeah but still I wouldn't trust them yet


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I think the highest end would be the 512gb ssd?
But yeah those are the higher ends. The base config or close to base config is 1299. I had it about 20 pages back but the product description on amazon is removed.

 

I'm not entirely sure on the base config price of the 15 but I know it's $1,050-$1,099 for the 14"

 

Best buy leaked the 14" model at $1,048.98. I'm going to trust them more than amazon lol. And Dell is trying to compete with apple ad others. They won't price their laptops that high.


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Sounds like the XPS is going to be gimped gpu wise compared to all those. I started to look at alternatives today and the ASUS N56VZ is looking pretty decent also. Another option with 650m even though it's a little thicker. Unfortunately it has matte screen...there's always something I don't like!

At this point I think I'm leaning most toward Envy 15, although I don't like that it will be mistaken for a MacBook Pro when it's open

 

The Lenvo y580 comes with a glossy screen if that's what you're looking for.

Yea I was originally going to hold out for the new XPS but it is lackluster and pushed me to either a sager np9150, an MSI GE60, or a Lenvo y580. I'm still debating at this point, but I'll have to make up my mind soon since my replacement np9150 for my np9130 should be shipped out sometime soon.... I hope.....

 

LOL I'd take the matte screen over the glossy anyday. Why do they even bother making the glossy screens, freaking sunlight reflector and fingerprint magnet...

 

Colors appear more vivid and vibrant. It's a trade-off. I would like to see just one OEM apply an oleophobic coating to their screen, especially when it's edge-to-edge glass that you have to touch to open and close.

 

because the glassy coating enhances the colour and makes it more vivid to mask the poor colour reproduction and weak contrast in some displays ... with a matte display the contrast backlighting and colour all have to be of a higher quality.

(im not sure about this but it would be cool) the XPS has a matte screen with gorilla glass over it so it will be like a mix between matte and glassy and it looks good 2 least in the pics

 

Ever since getting that cr-48 with a matte screen, I can't go back to glossy screens. Especially my sister's mbp, even though it's brighter and more vivid, the reflections suck in the sun, so much glare.

 

Because you can get edge to edge with it. And when on earth will you really be using your laptop outside that often....


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