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Removing some stickers and a clean install takes no time at all. I'd much rather do that than be stuck with a gimped GT 640LE, no backlit keyboard lower quality display and slower processor. That's just me though. I do like the look of the Vizios.
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What makes the display lower quality? Vizio is an HDTV company, marketing a 1080P IPS display. Secondly, a "gimped" GT640LE is still better than an even more gimped 630M, which is the starting GPU of the XPS15 (note: at 2-600$ higher depending on which model of the Vizio we're talking about.)
I'm not comparing the mid range Vizio with the top end XPS. At 1050$, the Vizio is better price for performance, pretty much period, except for connectivity.
The mid Vizio is 1050$. That comes with:
i5-3210M
1TB HDD
4G RAM
1080P IPS
Lighter and thinner
What makes you think the display is lower quality? We have no numbers on either. I will give you the backlit keyboard, I wish Vizio had included one. And the processor isn't slower. The starting CPU in the XPS is an i5-3210M. If we're talking about the i7, Vizio DOES offer an i7 at 1200$ (iirc) along with a 32gb cache SSD. At 1200$ The Vizio (hardware wise) is better in every respect to the XPS. I'm not talking about comparing top end to top end, I'm sure Dell is more than capable of outmuscleing (not a word... oh well) Vizio there. But price to performance, Vizio trounces the XPS.
It isn't very appropriate to compare Vizio's notebooks with the top end XPS. It's the same as comparing top end XPS to top end MBPw/RD. Sure, the MBP offers more, but it is -considerably- more expensive. (At least in the US, presumably). Any comparisons hardware wise should be done cost for cost. Obviously if your budget is higher than 1200$, there's no real reason to need to consider the Vizio
I am not knocking either company, I am just pointing out that I think they rule their respective price points. If I was <1200$ budget (I am) I think I will be going with a Vizio, unless dell surprises me. At <1600$, I think the XPS15 is one of the best (if not the, but this is very subjective) choices. -
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Heh. I do admit I've never owned a Vizio HDTV, I believe the one that I have downstairs is a Samsung (too lazy to go look ^.^) I'm just kind of figuring them being a TV company, and that they have one chance to make an impression, they'll do it right. But then again, Samsung screwed up their series 7 pretty badly. So we'll have to see. I'm hoping for impressive screens from both. But IPS screens feel so rare in laptops that I feel like if they're marketing a screen, it must be a decent one. (On that note, the 15.6" is an IPS screen, I wonder if it is the same model as the Envy/Vaio SE, or if Vizio had theirs custom made/newly made or something along those lines. Would be really cool).
Yep I feel like Vizio -is- targeting the premium notebook stream, but they aren't challenging the super premium people/price points. I guess they figure they'll hit more people at a lower price point, and more sales should always be better than fewer, higher per unit sales for a debut. It will get their name out more quickly.
Nevertheless, I expect quality machines from both companies, just for different groups ^^ I wish I could afford the XPS
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At this point I'm just glad I don't live in Australia Looking forward to seeing the price points & reviews for both of these lineups. I hope Dell allows much more customization. The jump from 5400rpm HDDs to 512GB SSDs is rather extreme.
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Well I can say with confidence I will have a very difficult decision on how to spend $1500 throughout the next couple of days
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Oh no, I'm aware of that. That wasn't what I was getting at just saying an HDTV company doesn't necessarily mean they will put in a good screen, I know they don't need to make a name for themselves, sorry if it came off like that ^.^
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Vizio is rated for 6-7 hours of battery life, that being the normal voltage CPU notebooks. It's on their website you know
As far as heat goes, that's the only thing I'm worried about when it comes to Vizio. But they have pretty low TDP parts, so I'm not tooooooo worried. But I might wait for a review as well. Supposedly they spent a long time on their cooling as well though. -
Gotcha, you were saying a good display maker may not put a good display in their laptop.
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Buddy, we get it. The XPS 14 went on sale in India and there is no 15 to speak of. If someone has anything to add to your dilemma, they will. In the meantime, please calm down. You're coming dangerously close to spamming this thread.
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@Dell-Bill I was wondering if you know of a phone number I can call to inquire about Dell student deals in Canada. It seems we don't have Dell University here
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If the "high end" xps 14 is rm4,299 then i am trembling with fear what the high end xps 15 will cost.
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No IB love for the 13
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^Personally I don't think its an Apple clone.
:/ too expensive for me. Just for comparison purposes, the Vizio notebook: VIZIO 15.6â Notebook | CN15-A1 | VIZIO offers better specs in every way than the Dell XPS 15 at 250$ off. Except for 2GB ram, but Vizio is user upgradeable.
Assuming the screens are comparable, (even) you get:
i5-3210M on both
1TB on Vizio vs 500GB on Dell
4GB (VZ) vs 6GB (DL)
GT 640M LE (kepler, VZ) vs GT630M
Only real thing that dell might win is build quality and heat/thermals. Vizio is supposed to have fairly excellent sound and tactile/input. And connectivity. But you pay 250$ for some extra gigs of RAM, some USB ports, a DVD drive, and a much much weaker GPU. If that's worth it to people, enjoy
Just posting my comparison. I think Dell definitely priced too high, there's no way it actually took this much to build the XPS 15 :/ -
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