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    New Dell XPS L521X (Ivy Bridge)

    Discussion in 'Dell XPS and Studio XPS' started by htrex, Mar 10, 2012.

  1. Shadow_Shooter

    Shadow_Shooter Notebook Guru

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    LOL so far what I've seen is what I expected when I first saw the pricing. There are only a few people ordered the notebook. I remember the time when the previous generation of XPS was released and how people went crazy over them. Dell will learn an expensive lesson from this business model my guts say. Honestly, for me it's gonna be either Envy or Vizio.

    It can only be XPS, if they stopped putting us into fool category and charge 200-300$ less. If I was really getting my money's worth, I would not be saying that. But what I am getting for what I am paying is putting shame on Dell or anyone who would buy this. I see only Dell fanboys going after this just like Apple, but the problem is Dell doesn't have many of them. Dell customers mostly know more about than an average Apple customer and these new machines are a no no because of their outrageous pricing, no customization, slightly lower end GPUs compared to their rivals and Dell doesn't have a 1000$ iDell to backup its name.
     
  2. Xps13SAM

    Xps13SAM Notebook Consultant

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    I'm purchasing mine through Best Buy and on their site it says the Xbox deal is only available in store. do you think if i complained enough or just tried to weasel my way around it they'd let me do the deal via telephone?
     
  3. DvP

    DvP Notebook Evangelist

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    Hi Guys,

    Did anybody find a Review of the XPS15 so far? Is there already some information what we can expect of the screen?

    In the meanwhile I also wait for the release of this :)
    GIGABYTE - Notebook / Slate & Device - Notebook & Netbook - U series - U2442V

    Let's see....

    About display: According to the information given by Bill the XPS 15 screen should be a lot better than the 14" model. Could be "quite good" if you check the results of engadget:

    "The display is bright enough to be used in sunny situations, too, showing respectable contrast; though color temperature gets increasingly cool the higher we crank that backlight. Viewing angles are more than adequate when the laptop is turned from side-to-side, but look at it from above or below and the contrast quickly falls to unacceptable levels. You'll want to make use of that hinge to keep this non-IPS panel properly perpendicular.

    Sometimes we all have to fly coach, and the XPS 14 is well-sized for that duty.
    You'll also want to make sure you don't have much in the way of bright objects behind you, because there's no matte option here. Every XPS 14 has an edge-to-edge Corning Gorilla Glass panel that should eradicate any concerns about accidental scratches, but it's more reflective than some other glossy displays, particularly the one found in the MacBook Air."
     
  4. Xps13SAM

    Xps13SAM Notebook Consultant

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    sorry, this is the multiple time i've asked but has anyone had any under the table info or the inside scoop when retailers will be getting the device to be available to order online?

    ugly computer.... :nah:
     
  5. ejl1980

    ejl1980 Notebook Evangelist

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    So... when you buy a car and you negotiate it down, does that mean it was over priced? Why is it so shocking Dell is selling this laptop full price on release day. If they priced it 2 -400 dollars less they couldn't be able to have sales as easily. The L501X that is selling for 800 on their website now has a "market value" of almost 1200 for the base model. Yet this model is a huge step up.

    Just for fun, can you build this model yourself for less?

    i7 3612QM $378 on intel's site
    640M $? no idea, so lets just low ball it at $100.00
    32 GB msata SSD $75 on ebay
    750 GB HDD average $75 depending on model
    Slot Load Blu Ray Drive $175 on ebay
    8 GB Ram $50
    Screen, lets low ball this $200
    I just bought a new trackpad for another computer on ebay so $40
    Motherboard (not sure what laptop ones cost so we'll go with a desktop one $100)
    Windows license $20

    So not taking into account building it with metal, case, keyboard, etc you are looking at over 1200 in parts. Yes I know Dell gets bulk discounts, but they also have to factor in profit, ADW, NBD Support, Phone center, overhead, etc. And they want 1700 for it in the US before any discounts. I paid net ~13xx including discounts I used (the bonus gift cards I used, and I count the rebate from dell advantage).

    I really dont' think its that over priced.
     
  6. CQGhost

    CQGhost Notebook Enthusiast

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    What I don't understand is: We all saw this coming. The prices and specs were on Amazon and Best Buy before the XPS was even released. Why is everyone so surprised when we all knew that the i7 model was going to be around $1600. :err:

    We all knew what kind of GPU it would have in it.

    We all knew what kind of Processor it would have.

    We all knew it would have a TN Panel in it.(yes, it wasn't 100%, but we were pretty sure from the evidence)

    Why wait until it's released to act surprised..I fully expected this notebook to be around $1600 for the model I wanted. Lol, it just amazes me: how people are so surprised at something we already knew most everything about. :D

    --Edit--
    We even knew the release date!
     
  7. DRCOOL

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    No clue. I've never really dealt with Bestbuy before.

    And Bill said end of the week. Unless you can find a Bestbuy worker, I think thats your best bet.
     
  8. Xps13SAM

    Xps13SAM Notebook Consultant

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    Yeah my problem is that when he said "end of week" did he mean IN store or ordering online? I wish he would have clarified :\
     
  9. DRCOOL

    DRCOOL Notebook Consultant

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    In that case, I believe he meant online. I'm guessing online and store will hit about the same time anyway.
     
  10. michaeljean

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    Why can't dell make a 16 inch ultra book. I thought ultra was the trend and now I am buying a vizio because they filled my need first.

    So tired of loud heavy computers with bad battery life.

    Pure ICS only
     
  11. DRCOOL

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    Sony really doesn't allow fresh driver installs?
     
  12. DvP

    DvP Notebook Evangelist

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    This makes absolutely no sense! If you calculate this way you will easily see that most competitors would lose hundreds of $ if you would calculate their machines this way in relation to the sales price. They pay more or less the same for all these components, so the only difference could be the support (previous models did have the same service) + the materials. In terms of production materials 100$ + is HUUUUUGE!
     
  13. hackdrag

    hackdrag Notebook Enthusiast

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    Yes the laptop will automatically switch to battery if you disconnect /switch off/the adapter. It happens in fraction of seconds so capacitors will take care of those econds. And it is much safer than you pulling out the battery
     
  14. Francesco V.

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    Very Very cool, even if a 14 and not a 15. Dark point are:
    • U processor....they are forced to put it in order to call it ultrabook...anyway this mean less power but less speed
    • 128GB mSata. I don't understand if this will be also as normal storage unit, i guess yes
    • Display quality
    • GT 640 RAM: GDR3 or GDR5 ?

    Then other laptop producers will go bankrupt quickly ? ;)
    If we have to justify XPS high prices i think that we have to found valid discussion topic out of the hardware field. So let me say we can talk about new costly materials, support, design, bla bla bla.
    My 2 cents

    I guess because only a dumba*s will start to heavily complain on something that is not still officially confirmed. ;)
     
  15. DvP

    DvP Notebook Evangelist

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    Hi,

    Sorry guys for OT! I personally prefer U CPU + strong GPU. The new U CPUs are much faster and speed should be sufficient for office, games and video/photo editing. Also the TDP of the whole system will be kept much lower which reduces heat and noise. Additionally the "n" version comes with Core™ i5-3210M Processor(2.5GHz-3.1GHz)

    Storage:
    "Massive Dual-Storage System(optional)**
    The U2442 provides the great features of an Ultrabook, but still is able to pack a mSATA 128GB SSD and a huge 750GB HDD into its super slim body."

    Display quality:
    No idea...just hope and wait.

    GPU:
    Lets hope for GDDR5 but I also heard there will be a 650M option :eek:

    Edit:
    I found some more information about the GPU in the U2442 Ultrabook of gigabyte:
    "It is powered by 3rd generation Intel® Core™ processors and NVIDIA® GeForce® GT 650M / GT 640M discrete graphics reaching 3DMark Vantage at 9,587 points. "

    Means...the performance is definitely higher than GT640M DDR3 and on par with 650M benchmarked on notebookcheck. I expect DDR5.
     
  16. alfling

    alfling Notebook Deity

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    Or maybe with a HUGE discount for 3-year warranty.... :p
    Bill confirmed that XPS 15 does have carbon fiber
    100% agree
    Good to know, this is a great thing! :cool:
     
  17. hackdrag

    hackdrag Notebook Enthusiast

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    Does it have 6- Cell or 8- Cell Battery
     
  18. DvP

    DvP Notebook Evangelist

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    What about checking official specs on the dell website? ;)
    65 WHr 9-cell Battery
     
  19. Botsu

    Botsu Notebook Evangelist

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    Ironically 438 pages already and 100+ pages of rants since the launch is enough to testify that this notebook deserves a high price I think...
     
  20. alfling

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    I better think that 400 pages of lurking and excited waiting before launch testify how much this notebook was desired, and the 100+ pages of rants after launch testify how much it disappointed us...
     
  21. TheCanadian

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    I really appreciate this and look forward to hearing back from you soon. I was looking at pulling the trigger on this purchase asap. Thanks!
     
  22. Earlyflash

    Earlyflash Notebook Enthusiast

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    So, I noticed that the New XPS 15 has been pulled from the Dell UK site:

    "Sorry, but this item is no longer available for purchase online. Please contact your sales representative for details on how to order."

    It's also not appearing on any links or search.

    Very odd.

    Old Link: http://www.dell.com/uk/p/xps-15-l521x/pd?sc_err=noocs
     
  23. Bungral

    Bungral Notebook Consultant

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    Yeah was about to post that. It's been off there all morning and I spoke to one of the chat people and they said it is a "technical problem" and will be back shortly.

    The hopeful part of me thinks they are changing the spec to include the msata and possibly a bluray on the highest end model.

    The cynic in me thinks they've done it to stop the vouchers that run out at midday today being used on them.
     
  24. Elands

    Elands Notebook Evangelist

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    I get what all of you are saying and I agree with some of your points. My thought process in buying it is, yes I could have gotten better 'bang for my buck' or however you might put it but this will be my first new laptop in 4 years and I'll need it to last 5+ and I've had another Dell that's lasted far beyond that.

    We've been waiting for the release for months and I knew that it would be slightly over my $1500 budget but would justify paying an extra hundred for Dell service and what seems to be very solid build quality.

    I feel offended for being compared to an Apple Zombie for I know with good reason why I spent the extra cash and for me it was worth it. Ask that to an 'Apple zombie' and 90% of them won't know why they spent that much (I have a friend who just spent over $3000 on a new Retina and doesn't know why, he just maxed out everything when he ordered it).

    Obviously this laptop isn't for everyone but eventually the price will come down as with anything but for right now I am very satisfied with my purchase and will stand by it.
     
  25. Earlyflash

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    We hope!

    This is going to be the case, I'm sure.
     
  26. downlinx

    downlinx Notebook Consultant

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    You could have checked the almost perfect review and got that information and saw a picture of the battery
     
  27. DvP

    DvP Notebook Evangelist

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    @ downlinx
    !? What's up with you? Who told you that I didn't? I read the review (more than once because of the updates) but the official specs from the manufacturer website is no worse place than you review. Putting the link into your signature would not be a bad idea if you are trying to get many hits ;)
     
  28. nicob

    nicob Notebook Consultant

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    I think he was referring to Hackdrag but didn't select the right quote!
     
  29. Risco

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    What a complete load of crap. You are not forced to buy a premium laptop, it is a choice. This is why Dell have their Inspiron line. Would you expect a Ferrari to cost the same as a Ford? No of course you would not. It is not just about specs it is about the whole user experience. This is why Apple are so successful, along with their customer service. So get you foot out of your mouth and stop insulting other people's intelligence.
     
  30. _j-bone_

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    But did you pay attention to Vizio's warranty terms? Shipping to the service center is on your own dime. Only shipping back is covered. Better not throw out that box for a year.

    I like Dell. My wife's Vostro is 7 years old, never had a warranty issue and is just now crippled because she's trying to use it for editing DSLR photos. I may just realize that the XPS is out of my budget range and go for the Inspiron 15R SE or I may give HP a try. Haven't decided yet.
     
  31. [-Mac-]

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    :laugh:, I think the same thing, maybe these vouchers were incompatible with new XPS,
    but for some bug we can use it :no:
    When these things happens usually Dell retards to send notebook until buyer is tired to wait and so cancels his order :swoon:
     
  32. infoMatt

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    Hem... at the moment, the XPS is a Ferrari-chassis with a 1.4 4-cylinder turbo (the "relatively" weak CPU, and a 3-cyl. 1.0L in case of the 14-inch), a 4 gear transmission (the GT630M) and three wheel like a Reliant Robin ("standard" non-impressive TN display)... :nah:

    Dell, give us 4 decent wheels&tires, a decent gearbox and a 5.9L Supercharged Shelby GT500 engine, and we could justify those prices...
     
  33. SpecialExport

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    attached is the quote for the xps i ordered last night; i got 2% epp and 2%college discounts, plus $200 college gift card, plus 5% advantage cash card. If you take these and subtract the 3-year warrenty the price pre-tax comes in at $1331. :D Not bad, considering I paid $1690 for a 1535 laptop in 2008 with full HD display. :)
     

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  34. downlinx

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    no problem bud, didn't know if you saw it, and good suggestion i think i might do that.
     
  35. _j-bone_

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    Good price but you can't really subtract the $200 gift card from the total paid. What are you going to use a gift card on after buying a $1600 laptop?
     
  36. jazy

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    @Bill ..Xps 15 is not launched in india yet, can you please tell me when it is expected to launch ?
     
  37. shabirdar

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    @Bill,
    Can u plz eye the asia now , particularly India ,
    When This miracle will be available on Dell India and with which Price Tag
     
  38. [-Mac-]

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    In this moment XPS 15 was retired from all Dell sites... (maybe expect US site)
     
  39. supahoops

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    Does anyone have a discount code for the XPS 15 in the UK, Im sure i read somewhere there was a quidco offer? Many thanks
     
  40. jmeyer2039

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    Don't get on my case for asking a question. And don't compare a ~$20,000 product that you traditionally negotiate to a ~$1500 product that you traditionally do not. It sounded, out of context, like they were just giving away $200 without much hesitation.
     
  41. alfling

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    Strange, I've just added to my chart (only for test! :p ) the 1500€ config, and I could use the 10% code too :confused:
     
  42. shabirdar

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    They Might be refreshing the Servers or the very product globally ...
    Can u tell me which buy would be wise Dell Xps L521x or Sony Vaio S15...
     
  43. jmeyer2039

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    This gets my vote for post of the day if not week.
     
  44. PegasusBruce

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    So I just bought the XPS 15 laptop with 512GB after finding a 15% discount code for Australia. With 3 yr warranty and some accessories, it comes to roughly 2600AUD (thankfully I can get my employer to pay for most, if not all of it).

    One thing I noted though, it says 1x item number: 370-22121 8GB DDR3 1600MHz Memory. Does that mean I will be getting a one piece 8gb RAM? (hopefully!). The sales rep told me in chat that it's 2x4gb.....

    And I wonder which 512GB SSD I am gonna get...item number 400-24091 512GB Solid State Drive.

    Reason for choosing this rather than Envy 15 or Asus N56 is coz those two have very lousy specs in Australia. Sad to say. Was tempted to choose MBP with retina display but I really dislike Mac OS and don't want to spend even more money to get parallel and windows.
     
  45. d4nz0r

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    More like a Ford Taurus in a Ferrari exterior, but sold at the price of a fully loaded Ferrari...your analogy makes no sense.

    Bingo, couldn't have said it better. I don't get why people are trying to justify the high prices (and very average specs) of the XPS, by claiming that those of us who are critical somehow "can't afford it". If It had better specs I'd have no problem paying these prices. It's not a 'premium' laptop when most of its specs are LOWER than the competitors and costs $400-500 more.

    It's just unfortunate Dell has now gone with an Apple-like business model. Only difference is, Dell is charging high prices for average specs, while Apple is charging insane prices for good specs.
     
  46. Thangnm

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    Could you please tell me the code? I am in australia as well. Thanks
     
  47. PegasusBruce

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    Discount code (15%) SBPCLQXJ6H3WC6 - for use in Australia while it lasts...
     
  48. Phoenix_Rising

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    If I am able to get this for about $1450 or so with student and other discounts, I wouldn't mind, since I also need this to last 4 years or so. The only thing holding me back right now is the screen. I'm pretty sure envys (going from previous screen specs, which should be similar) have 800+ contrast ratio, 260 nit brightness, and 72% color gamut. If this is close I'll consider it. All we know is the brightness so far.
     
  49. Musimaniac

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    you watch Top Gear, don't you? :D

    Anyway, I'm considering the inspiron 15 se. at 949€ I can get the i7 3612qm, 8 gb ram, 1 tb hdd and a blu-ray reader. 150€ more will buy me an extra 120 gb of ssd, it's everything I could ever desire. The only thing that's holding me back is the weight/height, and the screen quality. I couldn't find a review yet
     
  50. Skareem2

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    i agree i dont want inspiron t cheap for me i want some kind of metal .... and the 15SE lacks a number pad -_- as well as i prefer nvidia graphics the y580 has some keyboard flex and a harddrive overheating issue sony stopped making the c series and i dont want an hp ...... so im left to see what toshiba has .... or take an inspiron which i dont like the 15se needs more colours -_-

    but as sexi as the XPS is im not paying that price sorry dell you are on no RBG led display weak cpu and gpu im not buying it and i can afford it ...... i have high expectations of a system @ that pice point and spec wise XPS is fail ...
     
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