Overclocking the GT 525M card.:-)

Thats nice,howz everybody n5110 experience going?? Plz share!

 

i now have my card running super stable at clock 780/1560/1080 all thanks to capitankasars underclock for my l502x dell and better still my temperatures never exceed 71 degrees

 

Thats Cool!

 

Running stable at 875 core and 1200 memory, high temps though and it has to stay on the cooler

 

Hey mate... which one of the capitankasar's BIOS mod are you using? I'm playing Dragon Age (I & II), with everything on the highest setting and AA x2 (1600x900), and the GPU reaches peaks of 75°C, with the CPU with peaks of 81°C (normally, at average 78°C)...

 

hi ogrus it is capitankasars 0.83/0.83 bios, it actually improves the stability of ur overclock and lets you go that bit further with your overclock, but also keeps your temperatures down he has also just released a newer version with these voltages applied to the newly released a10 bios for our systems, so be sure to check it out

 

hehe, glad to know people keep using my modded bioses

well, the 0.83v/0.83v undervolt mod may not be stable for all 525m users, but it does for me , daryld1988 and Jovica666, and I must say the results are awesome, extra stability and reduced heat

give it a try, and if is not stable, try the 0.83v/0.85v version instead.

 

Thanks mates... I'll give it a try!

However, let me ask a noob question, before I can decide which one I'll install: how can I know if the system will be running stable? It's only noticeable while clocked, or while playing, or when?

 

well, while checking if the overclock and current voltage are stable, I usually run some OCCT tests for hours, if the temps are fine and no artifacts the first part of the test is ok.

the second part of the test is by manually, run games and 3d demanding apps some hours and if it handle it without crashes or issues, you have stable settings

 

Hello dear capitankasar.
Can i install low voltage mode for xps 15z with 525m? I mean from another dell "Custom l502x bios" ?

 

Just to let you folks know...mine was stable at factory clocks or lower OC but I experienced some freezing when playing BF3 with the 0.83/0.83V A09 modded bios version and my usual OC setting(750/1000/1500).Stable with lower OC settings.Also stable with the 0.85/0.85V A09 modded bios.For my XPS15 the 0.85/0.85V A10 modded bios is the most stable...using my usual OC settings(750/1000/1500) and it`s cold as it should be.Now max temps are:63C-70GFX/80-85C Core-Without my CoolerMaster Notepal x2 cooler...which is AWESOME!Tested with Kingdoms Of Amalur:Reckoning,Battlefield 3,MW3,Syndicate and many more...also tested with 3DMARK06 and got awesome 10120 points on the benchmark which is MORE than NVidia GT 555M scores!!!Yay...Cheers!

 

hey

mmm, not sure what you mean.

however be carefull while flashing a bios, you must flash only the correct bios, flashing another laptop bios will result in a brick, it happened before to ScruffyITA when he flashed a 15z bios into a L502X by mistake.


if you have a 15z laptop, you can find 15z modded bioses at this topic.

http://www.bios-mods.com/forum/Thread-UEFI-Dell-XPS-15-15z-L502x-L511z-modded-BIOS-and-HOWTO

if you want another version, you can ask jkbuha to mod it.

in the case he dont want to pick the task or he just got away.

I can try mod it for you, but you will need to provide me the whole flash folder, to obtain the flash folder you can follow the first post of this topic:

http://forum.notebookreview.com/dell-xps-studio-xps/632899-modding-l502x-bios-project.html


@Jovica666

I may give a try to the A10 0.85/0.85v to check if I can improve my OC a little, (using A10 0.83v/0.83v atm)

is curius how a gt525m can pass over the gt555m performance , well done mate

 

capitankasar, thanks a lot . That is what i was looking for. xps 15z modded bios. Now i have tested(before flashing) with 740/900/1480, and during furmark GPU throttles at 93C degrees. Do that mean that with 740/900/1480 my laptop is unstable? But i can see performance just right now. 3dmark06 was 6200, and now it is 9002. It is just like 550m now. But problems with throttling.

 

@ctjack
temperature doesnt mean it is stable or not.
generally, the lower temperature is the better to keep the machine parts safe and to last long time before they need to be replaced, heat usually kill things easier, and extreme heat will kill components at the moment.

93c can be OK, but there is big room for the improvement, if you can keep it below 90c or 85c or 80c if you can, it would be awesome

about the inestability, you will notice when it is unstable.

most common sintoms are:

*crashes/hangs/freezes: the system or the app or the graphic driver stop, and most of times it need to be restarted manually (hold the power button 5 secconds until it completly power off, and then start it again.)

*artifacts/graphical corruption: thats it, when you OC so much, specially the memory, you start to notice corruption at the image, weird textures, random weird pixels, etc.

so if you can get the crashes and the artifacts away, it means your system is stable

 

Well check this Image - TinyPic - Free Image Hosting, Photo Sharing & Video Hosting there is the result I got after testing the GFX with 3DMARK06...usual points for GT525M are between 6500-8500 and look what I`ve got!That was with the A09 0.85/085V modded bios version...now is even better!Salutes...

 

@Jovica666
impresive
grrr, I want higher OC
however it start getting unstable over 700 core on some games like dead space 2 >-<

did you played that game with your current settings?

 

Yes I did play Dead Space 2 but not for long~30min with my current OC settings,no lag,no freezing and cold-little bit warm palmrest...

 

@Jovica666
thanks for the info, well, then it seems you have a well built and solid chip meanwhile mine is just normal and cant take a decent OC xD

 

Just installed the 0.85/0.85 version A10... now, initializing the OCCT's tests for the CPU (first), and then, will start to test the GPU with different clocks (firstly, will try the 550M one)...

I'll let you know how the system will run after all the tests!

 

Hey mates...

Very well... after the BIOS upgrade, I've tested the XPS with de OCCT 3.0.0... never used this software, and don't know exactly if I'm doing it correctly, but below you can see the results obtained during it, if someone could make some considerations...

Softwares opened during the tests: OCCT, EVGA Precision and HWMonitor, with McAfee running in the background (no internet connection)
Enviroment Temperature: ~25°C
CPU at idle, with 97% of usage: ~55°C
GPU at idle, clocked at 740/1480/960 (core/shader/memory): ~54°C

TEST 01 - CPU: OCCT (1h - test mode medium data set)
CPU = 71°C min / 85°C max (peak)
GPU = 59°C min / 70°C max (peak)
Results: test completed without errors

TEST 02 - CPU: LINPACK (1h - test mode max / 90% free mem / 64 bits)
CPU = 73°C min / 83°C max (peak)
GPU = 55°C min / 66°C max (peak)
Results: test completed without errors

TEST 03 - GPU: OCCT (30' - 1280 x 1024 @ 60Hz / windowed)
CPU = 77°C min / 90°C max (peak) (the package reached 96°C)
GPU = 67°C min / 79°C max (peak)
Results: stopped the test with 30 minutes because of the package's temperature

TEST 04 - GPU: MEMTEST (10 pass)
GPU (GT540M) = test completed without errors
GPU (GT550M) = test did not complete (freeze)
GPU (GT550M+) = test did not complete (freeze)

Next step is to create some courage to open up and do the repaste and, maybe, remove the dust filter... about the repasting, which paste should I go after or avoid?

It's noteworthy that, when using at home (or, to be more specific, when using it not at work), I use my CM Storm SF-19, which helps to keep the system even cooler...

Cheers

 

@Ogrus
yep, it seems you are doing it fine

aparently your card can run gt540 fine, but not the 550m, so you can try play with values between those cards to get the max performance posible.

another advice, is dont OC the memory so much, its better to focus on the core speed than the memory, since the core is the one wich render images, and will result in more FPS.

once you get the core stable, you can try to adjust the memory and see how far you can go, but for the moment I suggest you to leave the memory at default clock until you find the max stable OC for the core.

yep, temperature is going a little high for you, if you are already running a undervolted bios, you can try the repaste+remove dust filter trick.

I heard artic 5 silver works pretty well, however I'm not an expert in that subject.

I repasted with some random paste I had laying arround home for desktop proccesors, and it seemed to improve temps a little, so considered the mod OK, then I also removed the dust filter, wich seemed to help too, that plus the undervolting got away the temp issues forever at least for me

that CM Storm SF-19 works nice, you can mix it with the hardware mods I suggested to get the optimal results

 

@capitankasar
Yep... it's seems like the GT540M's clocks are running real fine for the GT525M... this made the 3DMark6' score a few better than the stock: 7305 (the graphics card tests ran more fluid, with way more fps than the stock clock)...

Now, I'll try something in between the GT540M and the GT550M, to find until where my card can hold the OC flawless... but, I'll take your advice of don't mess with the memory...

About the temperatures, I'm thinking now if changing for the more undervolted BIOS (0.83/0.83) will make it better, or if I should let the way it is... at the moment, I'll try to find some good paste to make the repasting, and try to tweak the things a few...

I'll try, too, discover why, in the benchmark results from the 3DMark6, it seems like my CPU has a poorer score than another leveled hardwares (2042 versus 3200)...

Well... thanks by now...

Cheers!

 

Found a stable clock for the GPU at the GPU: MEMTEST (10 pass), of the OCCT = 715 / 1430 / 900... made the processor to run at 99% of its max too... by this way, my 3DMark6 score reached 8148... however, the CPU Score is being kept below the average for the leveled hardwares: 2843 versus 3200...

Tomorrow I'll test it with Dragon Age, to see if this clock (or one with some values lower) is stable during a play session...

 

@capitankasar
Well... I've made the tests with the stable clock, close to the GT550M's clock, during a session play of Dragon Age Origins from about 30 minutes... as results, I didn't notice a significant increase in the temperatures - the CPU rose only 2°C (81°C to 83°C) and the GPU rose 4°C (72°C to 76°C) - think I can't complain about it... would be nice if I could go even further? Obviously... however, as I got a good overclock value, and that does not seem to adversely affect my hardware (just increase a few the temperatures), it's more than good! In this test, I was using the CM Storm SF-19 at full speed, but the room temperature was pretty hot (~30°C), even at night...

 

@ogrus
well, you can try to adjust the OC a little higher.
however the gt550 are already not bad for a 525m OC
in your case I would check what is the max stable value I can get

 

@capitankasar
Yep... I'll try to go a bit higher, respecting that the system already refuse to go beyond 725 / 1450 / 900... when I discover which one is the higher core/shader clock acceptable, is there any tip to clock the memory or should I let it in 900MHz?

And, not less important, I'm looking for an affordable thermal compound to re-paste... just need to find which of the good ones are being sold here!

 

@ogrus

then 725/1450 is your max stable clock, leave it as it is or put it to 720 to get a litte more safer value.

about the memory, now you have the max core stable value, so you can start testing it now, remember to dont touch the core now since it is stable at 725.
and now start tweaking the memory and check how far you can go.

 

@capitankasar
Truly speaking, my max stable clock is 720 / 1440... now, I'm let it at 717 / 1434, exactly to keep it at a little more safer value. If it is better to lower a few more, I think it wouldn't be a issue...

And, with this max clock setted, I could reach 930MHz into the memory clock... however, already don't tested it with the 3DMark6 to see how would be the benchmark improvement...

So, now, I'm having my max stable clock (with some room) at 717 / 1434 / 930...


Playing Dragon Age Origins, for about 30 minutes, and didn't had any issues until now... using the CPU at 95% (no turbo boost)... CPU core temp at 75°C (max) and GPU temp at 72°C (max), with a room temperature of about 22°C, no SF-19... just need to see how it'll run in a warmer situation (which is most normal), but using the SF-19...

 

@ogrus
your OC looks almost exactly as mine, well, yours is maybe a little higher.

mine is fully stable at 700/1400/915
could up it a little more, but it is ok as it is, I preffer safe OC without crashes than 1 more FPS and random freezes.

 

@capitankasar
Well... until now, I'm thinking that this clock I've achieved is fully stable... the other game that I have is Dragon Age II, that is just a bit 'heavier' than the Origins'... but, the game is running more fluid after the clock...

Now, just waiting to know if it'll be safe too! But, as I said, until now, no issues, so...

 

just managed to find my true stable oc now for my gt525m card these results are gained by using capitankasars 0.83/0.83 now my overclock is as follows 830/1660/920 at these clocks i have no gaming problems at all no crashes and everything stable couldnt be happier my max temperature is also 80c which is also great for such high clocks

 

Nvidia has released the 600m gpu series,can dell replace the 525m with
535m gpu in 15r in comin days???

 

What do you mean by "capitankasars 0.83/0.83"?

I would love to get an OC like that!

 

OCCT 15min benchmark with shader complexity set to 1 and 1366x768 71C max temperature (gt 540m) clocks. Does this seem a good temperature for the clocks used? there were no errors found. I would have tested for longer but cant due to other things i need to be monitoring, thanks in advance

 

540m clocks withh 9013 3dmark06 score. Is this a good score? has it matched a typical 540m score? sorry, im very new to overclocking but we all have to start somewhere

 

I got 10120 3dmark06 score with my gt525m oc`d to 750/1000/1500 using @capitankasar`s 0.85/0.85V modded A10 bios version. Your score is usual for the gt540m card but I think that with a little bit more OC you can easily go above 10000.

 

hi funkmasterta i mean i got these clock speeds and stability by using capitankasars undervolted a10 bios for my dell l502x with the gt525m card in it works great and reduces temperatures which lets you push your overclock that bit further hope this helps

 

Overclocking that much and reducing your voltage would severely affect the life of your motherboard/gpu (since this is oem it would also destroy the mobo)

I suggest you don't lower voltages when you OC.
And also, if you leave the memory at 900 Mhz it's a bit more stable.

 

Why not?

10char

 

Because you're lowering voltage by 17% and OC'ing it by > 20%. You're not giving the card enough power. Also, I wonder if Nvidia cards automatically lower clock when something isn't normal (like this). ATI cards do this to prevent damage.

 

I haven`t experienced any problems so far...it`s stable as a concrete wall and I do play games A LOT. You are the first one that tells me that with my current settings I can harm my mobo/gpu. So what do you suggest? Do the OC but with overvolting the card? Use the 0.85/0.98 V modded bios or revert to dell`s original bios and do the OC?Thanks for the info btw. Salutes!

 

Yes, you won't be experiencing problems like when you overclock it too much or the memory clock. Undervolting deprives the GPU of power it needs, and to add to that, you OC'd it too. It just messes with internals. Just undervolt you should be fine as long as it's less than 20%. It's life span would be reduced drastically if you keep doing both in combination though.

If you feel your computer stays cool enough (unlike my 15z whose cpu 98C and shuts off sometimes) you can OC your GPU as long as it stays below 85C no need to under volt so i say revert back to the original bios. Also, keep memory clock at 900 and use the specs for the 550m for ur oc. I don't recommend more than that as this is a laptop + oem chip. You'll want it to last.

 

Advice accepted Btw my Cpu temps are: idle~50C,browsing the net~56C,gaming~78-83C,gaming when OC~79-85.My GPU temperature NEVER exceeds 68-70C no mater what game I play or how much I OC.These are the temperatures when I`m not using the cooling pad.With my CoolerMaster X2 the temps are lower by~10C. Thanks for your advice..added rep points Salutes!

 

thats very well explained
agreed,we must push our 525m to 550m clocks if we luv it..

 

Afters about 2 months of playing around with it, found it to be trully stable at 840/1680/1060

At 850/1700/1080 it was amazing with some games, but with others like NFS Hot Pursuit it would make crazy things happen, like transparent trees appearing on the road!

I'm very happy with those clocks, and I can play at 60fps 720p almost any game, if the right settings are chosen.

 

Sorry to bump an oldish thread, but how are you all changing the shader clock speed? I'm using MSI Afterburner and don't seem to have the option on an L502X.

 

shader clock speed is linked with the core clock at the l502x as far I know, this means if you lower one of them, the another one is also lowered, and if you raise one of them the another one is also raised.

 

Thanks, dude.

 

Or you can manage 'em individually by clicking on the Link button.

 

@capitankasar: What is stable clock, I have 525 in Dell 15z ?