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    Overclocking the GT 555M card.:-)

    Discussion in 'Dell XPS and Studio XPS' started by kroenen04, Mar 30, 2011.

  1. user44

    user44 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Do you mean that you can safely overclock the 555m to higher frequencies than the 550m? If that is the case, on what data do you base that?

    I am just curious. I wonder if there is a real physical difference on the chips when Nvidia sell different configs that vary on Clock Freq but that contain the same chip. For example 525m vs 540m (Chip GF108) or 550 vs 555m (Chip GF106). Does the lower config have some kind of objective quality measure that doesn’t allow it to run at higher speeds or Nvidia is just lowering the frequencies (and in the case of the 550m disabling some ROPs) to extend into different price scales?
     
  2. Hatchett

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    That's a great question and I'd love to know the answer too!
     
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    I heard that with Evga precision tool it can be oced even further than 760 on the core anyone tried it? above 760 running stable? 800 on core will be something like in the gt 550m 144 core thread they could reach 620 on core but with evga precision reached 720 on core stable getting 6400 on 3d mark vantage
     
  4. kroenen04

    kroenen04 Notebook Consultant

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    The 270.61 driver is out now.The beta was not so good...but has somebody tested this one?
     
  5. kroenen04

    kroenen04 Notebook Consultant

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    Ok...with the new 270.61 driver I have more power in 3D Mark 11:

    no overclocking...(+19 points):

    [​IMG]


    and my settings overclocked(+23points):

    [​IMG]



    You see,the new 270.61 driver gives more power for the 555M overclocked and in the stock settings.It´s better as the older 267.21 dell driver.
     
  6. SupahFlyJellyfish

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    I'm overclocking it to 780 while maintaining GPU temps of 60~65.
     
  7. Riddhy916

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    wow oced to 780 using afterburner or precision? whats your 3d mark 11 score?
     
  8. kroenen04

    kroenen04 Notebook Consultant

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    The problem was,if I go over 760 I have artefacts in games like crysis 2.

    Maximum OC with the 270.61(+26):


    [​IMG]
     
  9. BennHurd

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    Hi Finally i got my XPS 17 :D

    I run bench test.. 3d mark 06 : 12220 , OC : at 720/952 : 13500


    I run crysis 2 without OC all extreme and no AA, Blur.....

    i got 45- 55 FPS so game runs pretty good

    BUT

    i tried Bulletstorm and as i see i this video ( YouTube - Dell XPS 17 (L702x) - Gaming Test 2 - Nvidia 555m) is should run quite good.

    BUT i cannt even play with 1600x900 all high without AA on...

    When i go 1600x900 all mid i got 25- 30 FPS.....

    HOW CAN THAT BE??

    can someone plz try the game Bulletstorm... i think the game must run much better...



    all games i run without the OC..
     
  10. kroenen04

    kroenen04 Notebook Consultant

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    Welcome in the XPS-Club...;-)

    Would you please post your system configuration?

    You play Crysis 2 on "extrem" with 45 FPS?But not on 1920x1080 right? :D
     
  11. BennHurd

    BennHurd Notebook Enthusiast

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    hey i got a xps 17 with hd+ ( 1600x900) i7 2630, 555m gt, 4 gig ram, 640 gig
     
  12. BennHurd

    BennHurd Notebook Enthusiast

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    fist of all: i play without OC


    but if a barrel explodes or a granate ... my whole screen gets black i and can only see the explosion!

    and if almost die the same... black screen i only can see the HUD...


    i ahve the newest driver.... can u help me?
     
  13. andyguk

    andyguk Notebook Consultant

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    does anyone know if you can set up different graphic/gaming profiles in games? For example, I can play Oblivion on just about full settings in 2D and have decent FPS. However if I want to play it in 3D I have to go about changing all the sliders to bring settings down to cope with the 3D effect.

    I've never needed two separate graphics profiles before so never really researched this topic

    thanks :D
     
  14. gluhov

    gluhov Newbie

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    andyguk,

    no - it is not possible - most of games even don't know that they are launched in 3D mode. Some of games allow changing resolution if launched from shortcut. You can do such shortcuts with smaller resolution for 3d gaming.
     
  15. Plushy

    Plushy Notebook Enthusiast

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    so i just spent the past 25 minutes ready this entire forum, pretty interesting, but all so confusing to me, feels like im trying to read something in a different langauge xD i usually buy a computer and play my games :p
     
  16. iareakbar

    iareakbar Newbie

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    Hi, I have a XPS 17 with the 555m GPU with the latest Nvidia drivers and I overclocked it, but my games are still laggy when I play them on the high settings. I even check those youtube videos in which someone is playing a game with said high settings on this laptop with a lower graphics card and it looks so smooth. What is going on?
     
  17. SupahFlyJellyfish

    SupahFlyJellyfish Notebook Enthusiast

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    What game is it? You really shouldn't be having too many problems with most games on high settings whiled OCed unless you're playing a REALLY graphics intensive game (Metro 2033, Crysis, etc)
     
  18. andyguk

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    ok nevermind then. I'm just lazy and don't want to keep changing the sliders :eek:
     
  19. kroenen04

    kroenen04 Notebook Consultant

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    First:What a game is it.
    Second:Most games have a lot of graphic settings to change.You can set the textures on high and the shadows on low..so it runs smoother.Are you using the exact same settings and resolution in the same game like the guy in your Youtube-Video?

    And about games like Metro 2033:This game is so heavy..my brother is playing it on a i7 desktop with a GTX570 card..and its very laggy on all full settings.;-)
     
  20. BennHurd

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    can someone plz try the game Bulletstorm without OC..

    i dont know why but my frames suck hard!

    1600x900 all high ..... 19 fps in the main menu.... ??-.-
     
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    kroenen04 Notebook Consultant

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    Are you from germany? ;)
     
  23. iareakbar

    iareakbar Newbie

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    Well, for example for Assasin's Creed Brotherhood, you can see this person's settings in this video:
    YouTube - Assassins Creed Brotherhood PC Gameplay on Dell XPS 17 HD

    When I put those settings in exactly, it's really slow and lags and stutters.

    And with Crysis 2, there was this one video where the person had settings of 1600x900, Yes to both options after resolution and "advanced" profile.

    Mine, with the same settings, is very laggy. Any tips? Thanks for the replies.
     
  24. BennHurd

    BennHurd Notebook Enthusiast

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    ich bin aus österreich ;D

    hmm bei mir kommt es hin und wieder bei explosionen zu einem restlichen schwarzen bild...

    bsp ich sehe nur die granate exploieren und der rest ist schwarz..?

    hat das was mit physix zu tun?

    mit welchen einstllungen spielst du crysis2?

    ich spiele derzeit auf very high, schatten und AA usw alles aus auf 1600x900

    und es läuft ohne oc so mit zwischen 40 und 55 fps

    wenn ich alles auf extreme stelle dann kommt es schon teilweise vor das die fps unter 30 rutschen ( vorallem mit schatten an)
     
  25. kroenen04

    kroenen04 Notebook Consultant

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    Hi...wusste ich doch,dass du deutsch sprichst. ;)
    Also Crysis 2 spiele ich auf "sehr hoch" und mit 1920x1080 er Auflösung.
    Wo stellst du denn AA und die Schatten aus?Bei Crysis 2 gibt es doch nur 3 Kompletteinstellungen und keine Detaileinstellungen. :confused:
     
  26. BennHurd

    BennHurd Notebook Enthusiast

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    also mit diesem tool kannst du alles genau einstellen!

    : Crysis 2 Advanced Graphics Options Application - Steam Users' Forums

    einfach einstellen wie du es haben willst dann apply und dann die .crg datei die erstellt wird mit der im crysis 2 ordner erstetzen...


    also bei mir giebt is ingame die einstellungen : Spieler, Fortgeschritten, Hardcore

    und auf hardcore rennt das spielt praktisch garnicht auf 1600x900.. komisch



    kannst du bitte mal operation flashpoint red river testen ich hab da irgendwie komische " grafikfehler da verschwinden die bäume die ganze zeit und tauchen wieder auf obwohl ich konstant 50-60 fps habe und ich aknn irgendwie keine auflösug auswählen die höher als 1280x900 ist

    woran könnte das liegen?


    und wieviel fps hast du bei crysis 2?

    lg
     
  27. kroenen04

    kroenen04 Notebook Consultant

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    Also "operation flashpoint red river" habe ich nicht.Finde das Game auch totalen Murks.Die FPS in Crysis 2 schaue ich morgen mal nach.
    OC oder nicht OC?
     
  28. BennHurd

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    Plz one time Oc and one time without Oc :D

    thx
     
  29. kroenen04

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    What resolution and graphic settings?
     
  30. BennHurd

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    as u play...

    one time hd+ extreme settings and then plz full hd extreme sett
     
  31. kroenen04

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    HD+ is 1600x900?
     
  32. BennHurd

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    yea :D

    plz
     
  33. matrices

    matrices Notebook Guru

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    Is there a way to lift the OC limit you see in MSI Afterburner with Nvidia cards? The ATI "unofficial OC" bits don't appear to do anything for me (550m here).
     
  34. matrices

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    I found Nvidia Inspector tool to allow unlimited OC. Of course "unlimited" is relative - I could only pass Vantage at 680mhz on the 550M.

    GPU score was 5076.79 - so about the same as the stock performance of the 555m, at least at the rather meaningless settings that the benchmark runs at by default (720p no AA).
     
  35. andyguk

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    hey again. Apologies for my ignorance but I'm a bit behind in this topic now :eek: I saw a post earlier mentioning shortening the life of the GPU by overclocking due to an increase in voltage?

    was that dismissed at all? I do quite a bit of gaming so I'd have the GPU overclocked a lot if I were to try the settings at the beginning of this topic. I'd hate to think I'm shortening the life of the GPU

    thanks for the help
     
  36. Starscream

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    Hey, noob trying to overclock for the first time here

    question: how did you guys determine what core clock and memory clock to choose? I mean is there a correlation between the two?

    I see people pushing the core clock pretty close to the max (ie 760) but with the memory clock its pretty conservative...why is that?
     
  37. Jyon

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    Generally speaking, clocking the memory gives a pretty poor return for the increase in temperature it'll create. Essentially, it's just not worth doing :)
     
  38. RoosterRed

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    Yep it is...
    Blast from the past!
    You've done a good job for the documenting OC' the 555M
    gonna have to take notes.... ;)
    [​IMG]
     
  39. BennHurd

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    I STILL have problems with the game poeration flashpoint red river...


    looks like the texture is drawn too slow...


    seems like the buildings an trees are just getting "painted" when i walk out of a room for example...

    hmmmmm

    and i still just can pick a resolution max: 1280x 800 indgame -....

    crap
     
  40. kroenen04

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    Thanks a lot.You were a good teacher. ;)
    Oh,I see you have the new XPS,too.A great machine,right?
    I think the 555M is a more stable for OC as the 445M.And with the new sandy bridge..great.
     
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    Ok..I have not the programm to remove AA or shadows,but I testet it for you with the normal "extrem"and "very high"-settings. Testlevel was the beginning of the..."Torwächter"-mission.:

    CRYSIS 2

    Extrem+Vsync..no OC:

    1900x600 : 21 FPS
    1920x1080 : 16 FPS

    Extrem+Vsync..with my OC-Settings:

    1900x600: 26 FPS
    1920x1080: 20 FPS

    So I think with extreme settings its not good to play.But with "very high" settings it runs good with OC-settings.

    Very High+Vsync..no OC:

    1900x600 : 34 FPS
    1920x1080 : 25 FPS

    Very High+Vsync..with my OC-Settings:

    1900x600: 42 FPS
    1920x1080: 30 FPS

    Hope that helps... :)
     
  42. andyguk

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    hey Kroenen

    I've had a go with overclocking my 555M with your settings and I'm seeing on average an 8fps increase in games like GTA4 and Crysis Warhead. I have yet to experiment with Dirt 2 and Silent Hunter 5.

    I noticed that the temperature of the GPU stayed at 61 degrees C whilst playing Crysis Warhead on stock settings and on overclocked settings. I noticed a 3 degree C increase whilst playing GTA 4 overclocked.

    They seem to be respectable increases in FPS for little or no sacrifice in extra heat. The only thing that worries me is the increase in current/voltage a poster mentioned earlier in the thread. Will continual overclocking of the GPU reduce it's life somewhat?
     
  43. kroenen04

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    That sounds good to me with the FPS.The 555M has a high OC-potential.5-8 FPS is standart in the most games.

    And about the OC-risk:Well,I would not oc the system continual.I do it only in games.So I think it´s no problem.The new 555M card is very stable in OC-settings,so the risk is very low.The guy earlier in the post had no modern 555M cards..so I think it´s not the same situation.But if you have fear,you must not OC your card.Then you only must live with the lower performance in the most games and benchmarks.;-)
     
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    Just thought I would offer some info for those that don't have the 3D option and want to be sure that it is the GeForce GT555M that is being tested when you use 3DMark 11, you can right click the 3DMark11 icon and it should offer you the option of which graphics processor you want to test
    see pic
    [​IMG]


    Or you can go into your Nvida control panel through the Windows control panel, choose "Manage 3D settings", select program settings tab and "Add" your program, be it a testing program or game.
    The last bit of info was given to me by Beertha on the L702 thread.
    just looking to add my 2 cents worth....
    [​IMG]
     
  45. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    Nom nom nom

    Result

    Result

    In vantage the advantage beats out even adding in physX, will be interesting to compare the high res benchmarks.

    3dmark11 shows I have a slight shader advantage and vantage a decent bandwidth advantage (GDDR5 @ 1150mhz)
     
  46. Starscream

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    I have a question about MSI afterburner.

    I want the overclock settings to automatically apply everytime I start my computer...so I have ticked the box: apply overclock settings at system startup

    now, when I go into settings of MSI afterburner program, under the General tab, there is an option 'start with windows' which is unchecked. Do I need to tick that box?
     
  47. andyguk

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    thanks Kroenen. I think if I want the extra FPS or an extra bit of detail in a game then I may overclock. One game I found that doesn't need OC is Fallout 3. I can play that on stock at full settings in hi res AND in 3D and still get around 30fps most of the time. Great game! :D
     
  48. kroenen04

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    I think that´s a good way.In the new "Aliens vs Predator"the OC doesn´t bring really more power,too.So it is different from game to game.

    Fallout 3 is awesome..I played it on PS3 with all the Addons.Really Great.I think I would play it again on PC,because the graphics are a lot better as on PS3.
    I ordered a new alienware-desktop only for playing games on TV..so Fallout 3 is one of the first games I play when it arrives. ;)
     
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    Is this better then the GTX 460M?
     
  50. Meaker@Sager

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    No, it's a cut down version of the 460M. It has memory that gives half the bandwidth per clock and has shaders and ROPs disabled.
     
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