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    Overclocking the GT 555M card.:-)

    Discussion in 'Dell XPS and Studio XPS' started by kroenen04, Mar 30, 2011.

  1. Hatchett

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    Thanks, I have it downloaded and I'll install this driver later this AM, l want to re-run the 3D Mark 11 tests with the stock driver to see if I can get some numbers.

    Edit:
    The above link is for 32bit drivers, since I have a 64bit OS they are not the correct drivers, here's a link to the 64bit drivers for those who want the drivers.

    NVIDIA (64bit) DRIVERS 270.51 BETA
     
  2. Hatchett

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    OK, here's the results after installing the 270.51 Beta Drivers. All tests were done with the 270.51 Beta drivers and the default setting for the benchmark tests.

    On a side note: If anyone plans on installing the 270.51 drivers on a l702X, choose "Custom Install" and then "Clean Install", otherwise you'll get installation error's.

    3DMark06 Results, Stock:
    [​IMG]


    3DMark06 Results, Afterburner:
    [​IMG]


    3DMark11 Results, Stock:
    Result


    3DMark11 Results, Afterburner:
    Result


    3DMark Vantage Results, Stock:
    [​IMG]

    3DMark Vantage Results, Afterburner:
    [​IMG]

    Some tests revealed a slight loss in performance while others showed a slight increase in performance. No major increase or decrease in benchmark numbers.

    I did notice that during all the testing the overclocked settings actually ran cooler that the stock settings, my GPU temps maxed @ 67 degrees for the stock settings and they maxed @ 64 for the overclocked settings.

    And for what it's worth I felt the frame rates were smoother with the beta drivers, some of the tests seemed a bit jumpy with the 267.21 drivers but it appeared all were much smoother with the beta drivers.

    This concludes my benchmark testing of the 555M, I hope I was able to either help in some way or answer questions that you had about this GPU.
     
  3. kroenen04

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    It´s a X-file,really. :D
    But no problem.What exact beta drivers did you installed and did you removed the afterburner before you installed the new driver?
     
  4. Hatchett

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    BTW sorry if I hijacked your thread, that was not my intention, I only wanted to compare notes with you.

    I installed this driver:
    NVIDIA (64bit) DRIVERS 270.51 BETA

    I didn't uninstall Afterburner, I did a "Custom Install" then chose "Clean Install" then I rebooted.

    I set Afterburner to the stock settings, then rebooted before running my "Stock" tests. Then I OC'd using Afterburner, rebooted and re-ran the "Afterburner" tests.
     
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    In what resolution you make the bench ???
     
  7. kroenen04

    kroenen04 Notebook Consultant

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    I know that...everything is fine. ;)

    @Riddhy 916:The benchs for the 66770 are looking great.But how much overclocking potential has this card?The GT555M runs very cool on very high overclocked settings and that for hours in really heavy games like Crysis 1 and 2.
     
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    well oced gt 555m gives p1649 at 760 core

    stock 6770m at


    P1567 (725/800 Stock)

    P1673 (775/900 OC)

    P1750 (825/925 OC)

    Edit, one more, just for fun.

    P1824 (866/950 OC)

    well safely oc limit 825 on the core

    is gt 555m and 6770m volt tweakable?


    Far Cry 2 @ 1366x768, DX10, Ultra Settings and 4XAA (775/900=slight overclock)
    Minimum Framerate = 30.21
    Average Framerate = 38.39
    Max Framerate = 64.03


    Crysis 1 @ 1366x768, DX10, High (one down from maximum), 4XAA (775/900=slight overclock)

    Average Framerate = 32.72 (second, third and fourth flyby, since first is always innacurate)


    World in Conflict @ 1366x768, DX10, Every setting highest possible with exception of AA, which was chosen at 4X), (775/900=slight overclock)

    Minimum Framerate = 20
    Average Framerate = 33
    Maximum Framerate = 53
     
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    results from ArchAngel777
     
  10. kroenen04

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    The 555M is not volt tweakable with the afterburner.
    The benchmarks are great.But what about the heat?And higher resolutions?Who wants to play crysis 1 in 1366x768 on a 1080p Display? ;)
    I play every game in FullHD only.
    And about the heat...my older 445M was crashed very bad in crysis 1 overclocked...the heat was too much.And that in 900p only.The 555m runs with 30-35fps in FullHD and all on "high"(but no AA)not over 79/80C.I think thats very good for a notebook.And thats why I´m asking about the 6770 and the heat,when you play for hours in very high settings.Thats another thing as a fast high overclocked benchmarktest.You know what I wanna say?Sorry,my englisch is not so perfekt,because I´m from germany. :)
     
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    6770m runs very cooler than gt 555 m even for hours amd has a good rep for that.

    for 1080p there are still no benches as hp ships them with either 768p or 900p i will try to collect it if they can hook it up via ext monitor.

    can u please bench the following games please

    AvP 2010
    COD MW2
    BFBC2
    Lost Planet 2
    Crysis 2
    Bulletstorm
    Mafia 2
    please use as maxed out settings u can to get avg 25 to 35 fps

    i will also req the 6770m guy to do the same.
     
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    Man you compare gddr 3 video vs gddr5.First i would say that the competition is lost due to waay faster gddr 5.But from what i see gt 555 proved to be a kick GPU despite slower memory.And the fact that the games run on FHD :D This is very good peace of hardware.I want to see ATI on FHD
     
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    Right...FHD is the only thing for me,because I have the 3D-Display.Nvidea is very good in higher resolutions. :D

    @Riddhy916:You told me the card is so much cooler?Dates under high gaming settings?

    And about the 6770 overall...that´s not a "555M vs 6770 thread"..I started this only for 555M users for overclocking.So why I need to run all this game-benchmarks for this "cardfight"?You understand? ;)

    If you like it,please start a "555M vs 6770"thread.You don´t have the 6770-card yourself,right?

    Crysis 2 FHD "Very High" and VSYNC on...after one hour playing:

    [​IMG]

    Uploaded with ImageShack.us
     
  14. Hatchett

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    I'm quite happy with my GPU, and overclocking it is even better Thanks to kroenen04, I don't care what they compare it to it's awesome in my opinion, I'm glad I chose it.

    After seeing your post I decided to OC mine via Afterburner (Just to check it out), if you can do it so can I ! ! ! ! After that I installed the beta drivers and I'm loving this GPU.

    I probably wouldn't have OC'd it if I didn't see this post, so to kroenen04 I appreciate the tip and settings you provided.

    Compare somewhere else, this thread is all about the 555M!

    Added rep to kroenen04, Thanks Again.
     
  15. Hatchett

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    Also I received an added bonus from this thread, #1 OC'ing this Card, #2 The beta drivers. and #3 my POS runs cooler than it did when I received it,
    it was running in the low to mid 50's under light use for CPU temps, now after all the GPU testing I run in the mid to high 40's.

    Maybe I just got the CPU /GPU paste working!
     
  16. kroenen04

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    Thanks for that.I´m very happy,when I can help someone with my OC-Settings.Other members of this board helped me a lot with my older 445M and the OC overall,before.So,thanks again to "DaneGRClose" and "RoosterRed"for the OC-infos and their patience. ;)
     
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    Thanks to those two for helping you help me!

    Question, how can I display FPS, GPU Temps ect, in Crysis 2 like in your screen shot?
     
  18. kroenen04

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    That is very easy...go on "settings"in the afterburner,then on "monitoring"...and set it like mine in the pic below...but the afterburner must be open in the backround,when you wanna start a game with the display:



    [​IMG]

    Uploaded with ImageShack.us
     
  19. Hatchett

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    Thanks, I wanted to monitor temps while playing, that did the trick. :D
     
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    No problem...it would be interesting to see how much your temps are,when playing crysis 2. :)
     
  21. Hatchett

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    I'm not a hardcore PC gamer so I may not be stressing the card as others do, I played last night for ~ 30 minutes, the GPU temp stayed right around 70C and the highest frames per second I saw were 29fps.

    How do I get a in game screen capture?

    Edit:
    I just realized you have the 1080p model which has no Optimus and I have the 900 with Optimus. I just set the nVidia control panel to only use the 555M for Crysis 2, surely this will affect GPU temps. Not sure if the above info is comparable to your system.
     
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    Press "print" and then go to paint and press "strg" ans "V"....so you can safe the pic. ;)
     
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    thanks Kroenen and Hatchett for your tests :D I'm thinking of giving this a go, but I'd be always aware of temperatures. What's a safe temperature for the GPU? and at what temps should I be thinking of slowing it down a bit?

    I will have the 3D GT555M so I expect to see the same results, however just incase I don't, I'd like to be on the safe side with the temps so I don't fry something :eek:

    also.... I expect this will increase the performance in 3D mode? I'm aware that the resolution and/or settings have to be scaled back when using 3D to maintain FPS. Will 3D usage increase stress/heat on the GPU? Could anyone test this?

    thanks :)
     
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    just overclocked core from 590 to 690....
    played crysis 2 for 2 hours.....
    GPU Max 69ºC, CPU Max 80ºC
     
  25. Hatchett

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    Between myself and kroenen04 He would be the best one to ask about safe temps, if I remember correctly he stated earlier that he he played 1 hour plus @ 1080p and his temps never reached over 80C. I played Crysis 2 for about 30 minutes and never saw temps over 70C.

    If I were to guess I would think that safe GPU temps are very similar to safe CPU temps. Afterburner has a feature to display GPU temps on screen (In Game) and on the status bar making it easy to keep try of GPU temps.

    I cannot answer questions about 1080p or 3D since I have neither, so I'll step aside and let someone else answer those questions.
     
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    I have the 1080p screen and the 3D-555M card.So I can answer questions about this config.The guy on the dell-technical-hotline told me,that the GPU can run with max.100C heat.So I think max.85C is a good limit for the overclocking temps.I think higher temps are not good for the card.But with my high oc settings,my card is never running so hot.So I think the settings are ok for gaming.I activate the afterburner-oc-settings only before I´m playing games like Crysis or Crysis 2.For normal idle work the notebook is running with stock settings.I think thats better for the parts.If you are usind a antivirus software like "Avast",don´t forget to activate the "Gamemode" before playing games..so you have a better performance. ;)

    And about the 3D-Mode:There are 2 modes with 3D.The first one is the ingame 3D of Crysis 2 and the other one is the Nvidea 3D for upscaling 2D games into 3D.The last one is very heavy for the card,because in some games it´s a double work(2x1080p..one pic for every eye).I don´t have a Nvidea 3D kit,so I cannot test the nvidea mode with the notebookscreen.But I have a 42"Full HD 3D TV..so I can test it over HDMI later...hope it works.I´ve heared the new XPS(like others)have the new nvidea 3DTV-Software onboard..for free!!!
     
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    thanks for the feedback and tips guys. I'll give this a go and monitor the temps whilst games are running etc. If I see anything out of the ordinary I'll let you know :D That's when it arrives of course, I'm at the mercy of Walsh Western and whoever takes over delivery on the UK. So far it's been slow going, fingers crossed for this month
     
  28. Hatchett

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    My GPU temps @ idle are 42 - 43C and under full load the highest I have seen so far is 70C.

    It's worth the wait, you are gonna love it.
     
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    Yes,right everyone will love his new XPS-notebook.It´s a really great and strong machine. :D
     
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    I concur. The temperature of my XPS 17 stayed between 40c-50c without playing any games. Can't wait for tomorrow to arrive...
     
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    hhhhmmmm.......just because you have good temp, it doesn't means you safe......thats for sure !

    i Overclocked both my former gaming laptops with perfect Temps and NO articfacts......guess how it ended ?

    ...i got graphics problems after about 6 months...........ITS NOT THE TEMP IN MOST CASES WHO GIVE YOU HARDWARE ISSUES....ITS THE CURRENT.............
    when you OC a small mobile GPU (Hugh different to a desktop GPU with separate fan..max cooling....hugh heatsink.....etc) you give the card extra current.....there is the problem.

    like i said...i had great temp and no artifacts............still i replaced two go7900gs and one 8600M GT.

    dont forget i warned you..... .been there, done that years ago.
     
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    My OC is only running for some games when I need a little bit more power and not all the time.So I think thats ok.
    But thanks for the warning.
     
  33. Hatchett

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    I understand the risk and rewards of OC'ing this card.

    Since I have Optimus, I run on the Intel GPU 98% of the time. I also have 2 profiles created for Afterburner, Profile #1 is Stock settings, Profile #2 is OC'd.

    I run profile #1 99% of the time, Profile 2 gets used if extra performance is wanted.
     
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    This card's performance is very impressive. The score is getting close to 5850m stock after overclock. It would be better if they put a 6770m with switchable graphics for better performance. Thank you for sharing all the tips and results !
     
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    Right,the oc potenzial of the 555M is very good.And it runs a lot better as the 445M on oc-settings.So I think the card has a higher quality overall.
     
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    Wait... Wasn't the Go 7900 GS known for overheating and didn't the 8600M GT have a manufacturing defect? I'm not saying that the increased current can't be an issue - you might be right. But these particular failures you experienced might not have necessarily resulted from overclocking...
     
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    I'm probably missing something very simple here, but is there a shortcut key or button that turns 3D off completely? I noticed 3D kicks in on every game.... so what if I don't want 3D to activate?

    I realise there is a setting in Nvidia control panel to turn 3D stereoscopic off, is that what I'd have to do every time I want to turn on/off? I noticed the 3D emitter stays green even though I turn this setting off.

    using 3D, you are obviously going to take a hit on FPS, I just wanted to play some games without 3D as well :)
     
  38. matrices

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    So is it the consensus here that the 555m overclocks better than the 550m and performs significantly better when overclocked? I thought people were complaining about how the shader advantage was rendered useless by the DDR3 vRAM or something.
     
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    There is not shader advantage of the 555m over the 550m for most of us, just default clock speed advantage. See:
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/dell-xps-studio-xps/567176-gt-550m-144-cores.html
     
  40. staxbg

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    Oh there is not shader but TMU and ROP advantage and bus width as well.

    144:24:24 - shader:TMU:ROPs - gt555m - 192bit bus

    144:16:16 - shader:TMU:ROPs - GT550m - 128bit bus

    And if this is not advantage I don't know what it is, despite the clocks.
     
  41. Hatchett

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    I don't have a 550, but all the tests I ran indicate that the 555m performs better than the 550 from the numbers I have seen.

    People are trying to convince themselves that the 550 is equal to the 555m, but I think the performance numbers show they are not.
     
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    I don´t have the 3D-Set from Nvidea.But if I played in 3D on my TV with the notebook,there is no problem to deactivate 3D in the nvidea controllpanel again.
     
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    I am not saying they are EQUAL, but just very similar as both are the same GF106 chip with the same 144 CUDA Cores. It looks indeed that 550m have some ROPs disabled (16 vs 24), the default clock speed, and then there is obviusly the 3Mb mem advantage in the Dell configuration; although I think that is mostly a marketing gimmick.

    Just hit Control+T while playing and 3d is disabled (at least on my 3d Play + TV configuration)
     
  44. itcomic

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    Can we alter the voltage to further increase the overclock performance ? So the maximum stable overclock achieved is about 760mhz ?
     
  45. Hatchett

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    No the voltage cannot be modified via Afterburner, someone else will chime in if they know of a different way.
     
  46. Hatchett

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    I wasn't referring to you specifically, I was just giving my opinion about some of the other discussions on this board, ie: 550 has 144 cores and Overclocking the 550.
     
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    So does the 550 not overclock to the same degree as the 555, or just not with the same likelihood of to being able to do so? What on average is the gaming performance difference? Laptopreview or whatever has nothing useful on the 550m.
     
  48. itcomic

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    555m has some slight performance gain over 550. You can only overclock to certain degree without artifacts. Overclocking both card, 550 vs 555, the latter will always have better performance than 550.
     
  49. Kevin

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    Where is this GT 550M with 144 cores?

    edit nvm i see

    The 555M is 192-bit though.
     
  50. kroenen04

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    Can anyone making screenshots("print"..than "STRG"+"V" in paint)from Far Cry 2?I have ever a black pic,if I open it in paint. :confused:

    With AVP its no problem.
     
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