Penryn T9300 XPS M1530 Benchmarks

Another interesting point.
On 3dmark it says Driver WHQL Certified true.

On ORB its says WHQL - Not FM Approved.

 

I would just like to add that on mine it also says 8600m GS and i am getting a lower score of 4074. so i'm guessing this is a common deal...

btw, i have 1680x1050 and T9500 also. So almost exact same story as you guys.

 

Mine also shows up as 8600m GS but i am still getting scores of 4512 w/o OC with driver 174.31 and 5480 OC to 625/800. I have 1440x900.

The reason you guys are getting lower scores is because of you native resolution on your screen. Don't be worried to much as 3dmark06 is only a benchmark.

 

Thanks corujo that seems to be the answer to the different scores, the native resolution.

 

hey guys, I also jsut benchmarked my 1530, and I have the highest resolution 1680 x 1050(native resolution) and I scored only a 3909 with the 1200ish resolution setting on 3dmark06. Can someone confirm for sure that we are getting this low Benchmark because of our highest native resolution?

and one last question, I just got the system on monday, and the driver on my computer in device manager says my driver is 7.15.11.5663 and it says driver date is 9/12/2007.

Now I go to the dell webpage to see if there is any new drivers, and it says V.7.15.11.5663, A00 and release date says 11/28/2007. Now is this the same server I already have or is it a new one? it has the same numbers but it had ,A00 on the driver on the dell webpage.

 

oh btw, what driver do you guys reccommend? Which is the best one to use right now for the 8600 gt nvidia card besides the one dell is offering in their webpage? BTW please look at my earliest post above, had some questions >.< thanks


edit: another questions was when installing 3dmark06. When I installed it required to install direct x 9c. My question is, does the direct x 9c overrides my direct x 10 drivers that came with my 8600 gt card?

 

I use 174.xx at www.laptopvideo2go.com . I found out my low score was because I was using an old driver from them (don't use their front page that shows "latest driver"). Go through the community forums and find the latest drivers there. Go to http://www.laptopvideo2go.com/forum/index.php?showforum=89 and you should see the newest 174.xx drivers, just choose your os and install as instructed.

 

I got 4373 with my T7500, so not much difference.

 

Lol....a processor isn't going to make much of a difference on a GPU test...usually the operating system and the graphic card itself matters..

 

Very nice results.

The m1530 is a sexy machine that performs like a beast.

 

His & my Marks test kinda proves that doesn't it.

 

but does yours and his make any speed difference?!? thats what i need to know...i want to know how much less power is used and the difference in temperature...if you guys can show me..it would be greatly appreciated

 

Marginal speed difference. The Penryn will run a little cooler though.

 

You'll only benefit with the penryns if your going to use cpu intensive programs. If not, just get the t7500 and you'll be fine.

New 3dmark06 after fresh vista install and latest drivers (from 4380 --> 4512)

 

You guys would be surprised how cpu dependent 3dmark06 is.

I have an XPS M1730. When I OC my x9000 cpu to 3.4 my 3dmarks06 is 14500, standard clock of 2.8GHZ gives 12800 3dmarks. Other's with this laptop and the T8300 (2.4 GHZ) cpu's are getting roughly 10800.

There's a few reasons why you guys aren't seeing much a difference. Firstly, penryn isn't much faster. Benchmark's have shown that in most cases it does nothing, there's a few tests where it comes out 5-10% faster, but overall it isn't much of an upgrade.

Another thing you have to take into consideration is that your 8600M's aren't monster gpu's. They're what a pc gamer would call a budget gpu. They get the job done, but they aren't powerhouses. When you're benching 3dmark06 I guarantee your bottleneck is your gpu. Even if you doubled your cpu speed you wouldn't find much improvements (except on the cpu benchmark of course).

The only thing the penryn will offer this early in it's development is lower temps and better battery life. Even then, it's not much of an improvement.

Hope this helps.

edit: (a pic with cpu and gpu oc)

 

so you are saying the only way too see noticible improvments in a penryn is to have a high end graphic card...?

wow thats some monster cpu u have....isn't that the reason its increasing so much?

 

What i'm saying is that you could have a cpu half the speed of what you currently have and the 3dmark's wouldn't change much.

There's always a bottleneck in a computer system.

How else do you explain my 3dmark06 score increasing by 2000 points with a 0.6 GHZ increase.

If you ran a straight cpu test you would see a 5-10% increase in performance as the GPU is no longer a factor in the equation.

Even then, if you had very slow RAM e.g. pc100 with a dual core 2.5GHZ cpu you woud find that your cpu scores would be low since your ram isn't feeding information to you cpu fast enough. The ram then would be the bottleneck in this case.

 

Can someone confirm that we people who got the 1680 x 1050 scored lower than the thread starter because our natural resolution is higher than his 1440 resolution? Can someone confirm this?

 

I just ran mine out of the box. 2.5 T9500 with the 1680x1050 and I got 3990.

 

Im also running 3dmark06 1.1.0

 

Yeah the pattern seems to be the people with the wsxga+ screens have the lower scores so far. I scored 3999 myself out of the box, with the laptopvideo2go's newest video drivers I score around 4200-4300.

 

On your mini-review, that would bug me too. Did you complain to Dell about that?

 

Stock Drivers on a T8300 = circa 3800
New Drivers = 4188

I'm happy

 

I've only seen 3DMark06 tests... how about some PCMark05 tests?

Here is mine:

 

As I posted earlier PCMark05 wont give a good benchmark for Penryn processors and above. You'll need PCMark Vantage as a more reliable indicator.

 

Here's my PCmark05 score, i got 6735.

 

WRONG! If both types of processors take the same test it doesn't matter. Why favor a newer CPU over a older one in different test.

 

Of course it matters. PCMark05 isn't designed with the newer CPUs in mind as such wont stress test the processor to the full, therefore it's results are misleading. This has already been shown in a number of published comparison tests. Therefore comparing your T7500 results against a T9300 using PCmark05 willl not give a true benchmark.

 

If both types of processors take the same test it doesn't matter.

I know you want the T9500 Penryn to blow away the T7800 Merom, but it isn't going to happen... yet.

There are very good tests on this site:
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-Intel-Core-2-Duo-Penryn-CPUs.7876.0.html

Only very minor performance differences between the T9500 Penryn and the T7800 Merom CPU were noticeable while running the well known 3DMark benchmark test.

Verdict
Although the advantages of the Penryn CPU are rather limited, especially for current games which profit far more from a more powerful graphics card, it is still an improvement over the Merom processor and, most important for the notebook buyer, at an identical price.

 

the T7800 merom is faster..and is charged more than the T9300

 

Keanu222x0 What driver are you using becuase your scoring a nice score and I want the same one, and does your notebook have the highest resolution? And does the new updated drivers give you any problems or errors? The driver that came with my system hasn't given me any problems as of yet

Mars2003 What driver are you using? and whats your natural resolution?


My specs are
XPS M1530, Intel Core 2 Duo Processor T9300
15.4 inch Wide Screen WSXGA+ TrueLife (1680x1050)
4GB
256MB NVIDIA GeForce 8600M GT
85 WHr 6-cell Lithium Ion Primary Battery
32 bit vista

 

Native res is 1680x1050 and I'm using the Dell version of the 174.31's

 

I have also a 1680x1050 screen. and i know why people who have this screen have smaller score, its because 3dmark 2006 runs at 1280x1024, and thats no problem to rescale 1680x1050, but for people who have 1440x900 or 1280x800 their laptop wont go at 1280x1024 so 3dmark has to rescale to max resolution available for laptop thats why they got smaller score because 3dmark runs in smaller res.
I have on my laptop 3400 points (after OC 4500) but i have 8600gt with ddr2 memory, and bandwith 12,8Gb/s... someone wrote few post ago that 8600GT shoulsd have something over 22 GB/s... my bandwith is to small i guess...

My laptop is Dell Inspiron 1520 with t7500, 8600gt 256 mb ddr2, and 1680x1050 res

 

That is true. My xps is 1440x900 and 3dmark06 runs at 1280x854.

 

Mars2003 where in the dell webpage did you get those drivers? When I go to download drivers, I choose my laptop model and options under video card is only the 7.15.11.5663 Nvidia. Where do I get the drivers your talking about? from the dell webpage?

And Keanu222x0 What driver are you using becuase your scoring a nice score and I want the same one, and does your notebook have the highest resolution? And does the new updated drivers give you any problems or errors? The driver that came with my system hasn't given me any problems as of yet

When installing a new driver is this the way to install it?

1. Do I uninstall old driver from device manager or from control panel?

2. After uninstalling, do I restart PC? Then install new driver then restart again?

Thanks would appreciate some anwsers!

Firstn20

 

Jeff, what chip do you ahve? a T9500 is 2.6 ghz, and 2.5 ghz is a T9300, can you tell me which do you have? ause ur score is higher than mines by 90 points.

and also how do I check which vista versio I have? Was wondering how to check if I had the 64 bit versiot or 32 bit.

also look at my previous reply please, thanks

 

I actually found them under the Inspiron 1520 section. But it's the same card so I figured why not.

 

Nice to know, thanks for posting

 

When installing a new driver is this the way to install it?

1. Do I uninstall old driver from device manager or from control panel?

2. After uninstalling, do I restart PC? Then install new driver then restart again?

Let me know whats the right way to do it, thanks

Thanks would appreciate some anwsers!


Firstn20

 

I installed over the top of the old driver, that said I believe that most here would suggest an uninstall first from the control panel, then install the nvidia driver. A reboot is probably required after each step.

 

Keanu, Mars, and Jeff33702, What stock drivers did you guys all have when you tested your system with its stock drivers? thanks

 

I can't remember the version, they we're however signed as November 07. Sorry

 

7.15.11.5663 9/12/07

 

WHoops - It's the 2.6.

 

No, I got an LG screen that I am happy with. My work bought this computer so that I could get some work done. I don't want to waste any more time sending it back and waiting for a new one.

 

hey guys,

I've just ran a bench mark using the free version of 3DMark06 - my score was:

4678 3DMarks
SM 2.0 Score 1866
SM 3.0 Score 1783
CPU Score 2192

How good are these scores? My spec is: xps1530 /T9300/3gig of ram/8600GT DDR3 256mb/using 169.09

Query about the BIOS. Has dell fitted the wrong card? I was poking around in my bios and came across this: NB8P-GS, i was suspicious that dell has given me a GS card and not a GT? The 3DMark06 also detects my card as: NVIDIA GeForce Go 8600 GS

However the adapters function show my card as GeForce 8600M GT with memory size 512mb *confused* I'm using modified drivers from laptopvideo2go site ver 169.09

thanks in advance!

^^ c/p from dell forum, i think it is more suited here

 

That is a high score for stock core speeds. Did you tune the gpu core speeds?

 

Just did a benchmark of my new XPS M1530 with the 1680 res display. It's got the T9500 Penryn CPU, and 4GB RAM. Grunty machine for the size/weight!

I've confirmed it has 22.5GB/s bandwidth using GPU-Z. 475/702MHz CPU/memory respectively. Looks like a GT to me, despite the reports of GS popping up in Futuremark's ORB.

Interestingly enough, the manual for this laptop says it has a 8600 GS in the component list, but not a GT. It's clear looking from the GPU-Z and 3DMark results that this is indeed a GT.

Perhaps even Dell is confused about the GPU they put in these laptops?

Here's the 3DMark06 results:

3DMark Score 4147
SM 2.0 Score 1649
SM 3.0 Score 1499
CPU Score 2384

Running Vista x86 with SP1 and 175.70 NVIDIA drivers from laptopvideo2go.com

 

Maybe you don't have the GT as your 3DMark06 score is lower than mine. With your newer faster T9500 Penryn CPU, and 4GB RAM (1GB more than me)
You should have a considerable higher score than mine!
This is my 3DMark06 score

 

I would've thought the same, however, looking at the benchmarks for the 8600 GS here:

http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-8600M-GS.3707.0.html

It seems the GS doesn't get any higher than 2878 in 3DMark06, which sounds about right considering it has less shader processors, and DDR2 memory as well as different clock speeds to the GT.

Perhaps it's my drivers that are weighing it down slightly (NVIDIA 175.70), or I didn't install a driver correctly. I didn't use the Intel chipset drivers from Dell, but got them directly from Intel for the 900 series chipset (965 in for the XPS 1530).

Also, the screen resolution is 1680, and the other people in this thread got a lower score with the same resolution (seems to be the only correlation) is also the probable reason why it's lower.

You've got the 1440 res screen, I take it? I actually would've preferred that one; the 1680 is a little grainy, even more so than the MacBook Pro 15" I have (the non-LED backlit model).