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    S-XPS 1645 Throttling Info. and Updates

    Discussion in 'Dell XPS and Studio XPS' started by atlstang, Dec 27, 2009.

  1. godai_nin

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    As far as i remember usally dell removes the older bios as soon as the new ones out . It not like we could downgrade em using the bios package by dell. So, there has to be something missing from these new BIOS revisions.
     
  2. sneer82

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    Yes - release notes that Bill promised us before. ;)
     
  3. 2by4

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    Also the tests that I performed a few pages back with the Crysis Demo was done with ThrottleStop Turned Off, I only had the Log Box checked for testing results.
     
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    How about for a Software Engineer like you (I'm too)? :) Would you recommend the i7 -620 over 720 one? I often run multiple server application and OSs at the same time. So, I need a very powerful laptop. I know in this case , an i7 Quad model is more suitable to me. However, if I will never get the full capability of the i7 Quad model due to the issue, Would it be better to pick the i7 -620 instead? or running it on AC all the time ?
     
  5. winks2872

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    you can allways get the old version here:
    ftp://ftp.dell.com/bios/
     
  6. godai_nin

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    So what the judgment is so far to update the Direct2Dell forum.

    A properly working system under maximum performance will increase multiplier till it hits 12x for 720, the GPU and CPU temperature will increase till stabilizing at a certain level.
    If this level is higher than the BIOS design temperatures, throttling to CPU and/or GPU should take place at the first moment it hits the design limit.

    We have a mixed reviews, it looks like the performance is improved.

    Some benchmarks for furmark+prime shows unnecessary throttling in the begining followed by a stabilization at 12x, this is an area to analyze, but the fact that it stays at at 12x most of the time is a very good news.

    In general, i think any throttling that is happening now is a machine limitation.
     
  8. Midnight_Voice

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    Tried that. It absolutely fubared its ability to illuminate the room.
     
  9. jakertberry

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    I tend to agree. Activating ThrottleStop with A07 only causes chipset modulation, whereas no ThrottleStop seems to work alright.

    For what it's worth, several hours of WoW playing has proved that I can get a steady 60 fps in instances with my normal ultra settings (except for shadows).


    So, now that I can see what this machine is technically capable of, I can now reconsider whether I keep the laptop or return it for something that has a higher cap.

    I think this needs more research though. I'll be doing a more comprehensive comparison with A07 and a 130w/150w adapter later. Let me know if anyone has any scenarios you'd like me to test.
     
  10. atlstang

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    One thing that looks a bit odd, something i would like to see into a bit. I think unclewebb is going to try and examine this a bit more as well. But the turboboost seems a bit low, A lot of cases i was expecting 14-15x constantly if not more, and i see at lot of 12-13x in the logs, or worse on some. One hypothesis, is they could be disabling and enabling turboboost etc quickly, causing the average mult to be lower then what it should be.

    Its speculation right now, but something doesnt seem 100% correct in that regard
     
  11. Siphen

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    Kill-A-Watt is showing 110W MAX allowed wattage draw from the wall with BIOS A07, this is 5-10more W draw allowed,

    A03- 90W AC max allowed ~64.8W DC Side
    A06- 100W AC max allowed ~72.0W DC Side
    A07- 110W AC max allowed. - ~79.2W DC Side

    This does not take into account the voltage modification that was made between A03-A06

    A07 - TS enabled - 138W max draw AC . ~99.36W DC Side

    Tests were done with prime95 and furmark.

    So, - to sum up, TS allows 20 more Watts DC Side to be used by the system if its needed, A07 doesnt.

    going to see how the games run without TS enable... ill be sure to log ;p
     
  12. Dell-Bill_B

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    What happened was I was not able to convince some of the decision makers to give a little more detail than they went with. I have this on my list of topics to discuss when we meet to discuss the post-A07 happenings.
     
  13. HSeldon

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    I posted this on the solution thread. One change though, ran Crysis again and multipliers were holding between 16-17 and temp stayed under 80C, so no gpu throttling.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by HSeldon
    Just updated and tried Anno 1404. Works flawlessly now. Full brightness, keyboard light on and all details on and I'm getting 12-13 multiplier (i7-720). When I switched to battery multiplier dropped to 11-12. I ran for a few minutes and then plugged back in. Even with battery charging, I was getting 12-13 again. Guess I need to install Crysis again and see what happens.

    Loaded up Crysis and the multipliers are floating between 12 and 15. But now I'm seeing GPU throttling. When the temperature of the gpu is between 80 and 84 for a few seconds, the gpu drops to 300/500. When gpu clocks down, the temperature drops to around 77 instantly. It will stay there for a few seconds and then switch back to 675/800. Guess it's time to try arctic silver on the chips.
     
  14. Midnight_Voice

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    Because they haven't been written yet? I bought this machine in the reasonable expectation it would give spectacular performance now, and will still be giving good performance in three years' time.

    Like the Sony Vaio I bought three weeks after XP came out, with a whole 64k of main memory, expandable to 128k. Even XP itself blew those limits, let alone any programs released in the next year or so.

    And don't even get me started on what I think might be a 'real-world' set of mixed programs now, or the repeatability of anything I could do with them.

    I figure it has to be able to handle a synthetic benchmark now, or what hope for the future?
     
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    They've got to realize that a four word (!) description looks silly. They should at least be able to get it up to Twitter standards. :)
     
  16. Midnight_Voice

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    Yes, you keep saying that, but do you understand it, or are you just parroting something that sounds good to your ears?

    If Furmark is a virus, any sort of a virus, please tell me which anti-virus products detect and remove it.

    Or please keep schtum about it, before you kill another thread stone dead.
     
  17. sneer82

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    Can anyone else confirm GPU throttling on A07 ?
     
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  18. Asherek

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    Not the same thing as a hacker virus, what AMD means is that it's a huge power draw on the cards, more than what they have rated the cards to run at.

    I don't think any reasonable person is expecting the laptop to run Furmark for hours and hours on end without any kind of issue, but I don't like to see the system throttling itself almost immediately, which is the case at the moment.
     
  19. SlyNine

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    Yes and you and others keep rebutting it. So the hell what. Look if you don't think it is then fine. But you're not just arguing against me, you are also arguing against AMD engineers and MANY others in the industry.

    It means that the program Isolates the GPU and targets every circuit it can possibly target. Question is, do you know what that implies for a GPU core that can run hundreds of threads at one time and is very dynamic. This isn't a CPU core that can at most run 2 threads. Lets see you turn on every circuit in anything to the max, just to see if it can handle it. Most things will fail without finding a way to alleviate the load, I.e. Throttling.

    Do you understand it now.
     
  20. 06voy

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    Do you really think I need a new mobo? I really dont want to go through that. I still have a really sour taste in my mouth from the last ones. Could this be cause by not running a dell version of windows 7? If i pull the cmos battery do you think that might fix my problem?
     
  21. surfed

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    Just my 2 cents here. I ran prime95 with 8 threads, played x-plane on 1600x1200 on external monitor, browsed web on internal monitor and my multipliers where all at 12x with no throttlestop. So that makes me happy, I can use 100% CPU, run a 3d game and be on the web with no issues. A07+130W adaptor, WLED screen, I7 720
     
  22. SlyNine

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    Yea, and the problem is it has nothing to do with the GPU throttling itself. Its a Dell imposed thorttling scheme.
     
  23. SlyNine

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    I have yet to try an external monitor. I do plan on doing so as that could make or break my decision to keep it.
     
  24. fmac

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    I really want to understand the functionality of Furmark. Furmark has the capacity to stress out ANY gpu? I mean, does it have a dynamic way to work depending on the gpu, in order to adapt to each gpu capabilities or will distant future gpu's be able to handle furmark fluently?
     
  25. Asherek

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    The newer ATI cards (5x series, as well as the 4670, 4830 mobility series) have inbuilt protection, as well as through Catalyst Control Center, to prevent overheating/overuse from Furmark. I'd dig up the articles, but I'm feeling a bit too lazy right now. Not to mention, I was working at ATI when the driver team I was on was starting to work on that.

    The bottom line is, ATI and Intel should be the ones determining where the cutoff points are, not Dell. These chips are already designed to deal with these issues and have their own inbuilt throttling.
     
  26. code137

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    Can we get more results good or bad? I don't even get mine until the 25th (if its not delayed more), but I'd still like to see more results to help make a decision about the machine. If I stick it out I'll do my own testing as well, but thats still a ways off.
     
  27. atlstang

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    please let just let this furmark debate go, its kind of deterring from the issue at hand. and that is to test the new bios, as a lot of things seem a little unsure whether its a complete fix.

    its obvious we all have our opinions on furmark, let them be please
     
  28. AL bino

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    Seriously. Do we really need another thread locked over the same argument? Move along already.
     
  29. error-id10t

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    Personally I don't think it's A07 related, only because when I experienced GPU downclock it also hit 84 degrees (not 82 or 83). This was on previous BIOS version. As hard as I've looked, I can't find what the 4670 threshold is. ie: is this ATI or Dell limited.

    I haven't seen too many GPU temps posted to be 100% sure, except I had it happen on 84 degrees also and it matches HSeldon finding.

    Also, my normal GPU temps on the real-world game reach 72-73 degrees and from memory 3DMark06 reaches about the same, so this high temp is not normal for me personally.
     
  30. Chris123NT

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    I had the same issue on mine. Use the method in the following thread to flash A07 with a USB key, then you will be in business.

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/showpost.php?p=5745844&postcount=1
     
  31. gstboy

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    I'm not sure if mine is related to heat as well but I did notice a lot of stuttering towards the end of a mission in MW2. I noticed it played fine until the computer got a little hot and then when I looked at the max gpu temp over this period it was at 80. Funny thing is I was in my air conditioned office earlier and it seemed to play just fine after 30 mins. In my un airconditioned room at home I get about 15 mins of gameplay before it starts stuttering. This is with both Throttlestop enabled and disabled didn't matter. Multi was the same at high 12's average.
     
  32. TomK2

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    What are you guys using to measure gpu temps? RealTemp 2.4 has the gpu option disabled for me, and I installed Rivatuner, but it can't find any database info for my card.

    I am suspicious that the gpu is running at a higher voltage with A07 than A03, but its hard to prove by measuring temperatures because the gpu and cpu are thermally coupled by the heatpipes, so one will warm the other (thats my theory anyway).
     
  33. n3verm0re

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    I've used GPU-Z to see the temperature and clock speeds, but since installing a more recent ATI driver (available at http://strags.com), HWMonitor also reports the GPU temperature.

    Incidentally, you're correct about the GPU being warmed by the CPU and, presumably, vice versa. My GPU idles at around 45C, but if I run only Prime95 with 8 threads, the GPU will slowly get hotter until stabilizing just a few degrees below 60C.
     

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    Using Webb's 'PowerPlayer', you should see that when it clocks up it uses 1.200V and idling/mid is stays at 0.900V so I don't think it's been lifted higher. For temps I was using GPU-z.

    On your point that the CPU temp increases GPU temp, I agree. I was trying to use BOINC (seti@home) but had to stop because when it started using the CPU, the GPU temps climbed up also - which in turn started turning the fans on louder. As it was just sitting there, I didn't feel like having the fans on that loud so I stopped...this was back in A03 and haven't tried since.
     
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    Question, I have the 1647 (i7-620M, 4GB DDR3, RGBLED, 128GB SSD). Can I use the A07 BIOS on my system? Does it just up the limit on the power draw? So for example mine could draw 120w (or w/e it is now) from a 130w adapter and see if it throttles?
     
  36. SlyNine

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    Sure enough ,on an external monitor 8threads prime+game and no throttling.

    So the Issue isn't heat, Unless they figure for it blocking the vent.
     
  37. n3verm0re

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    No, a 1647 specific BIOS should be available soon according to Bill.
     
  38. SlyNine

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    The same heatpipe system cools both the CPU/GPU. So if one got hotter they both would.
     
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    Just wanted to clarify I get this with both screens running, internal and external, primex8, game plus firefox, no throttling.
     
  40. SlyNine

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    I don't get near that, add 2 threads of Prime 95 + Dirt2. Throttles down to 7X.
     
  41. gstboy

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    need to get realtemp 3.5 beta, gpu option is enabled.

    http://fileforum.betanews.com/detail/RealTemp/1231762885/1
     
  42. unclewebb

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    RealTemp 3.55
    http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/3/3/1794507/RealTempBeta.zip

    I finally got around to fixing a bug or two or three.

    The ATI GPU temperature reading code has always worked well for me but has caused trouble for some users so now it is optional. You will need to add:

    GPU=2

    to the RealTemp.ini file to see if this code works on your computer. GPU=1 is for Nvidia owners.
     
  43. D2K9

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    I'm not sure how to do a proper test with Crysis but this is on medium settings, 1920x1080.


    Code:
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    I am pretty happy with Dell's fix. Thanks Bill :D
     
  44. SlyNine

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    So here I am, playing UT3 with Prime 95 on 6 threads *(you have to leave at least 2 for the game or else the CPU cannot feed the GPU.) Playing in windowed mode so I can watch it, Graphics are 720P and I've maxed most of the settings, 32 bots on Deck17. I've got Brightness clicked up 5 notches from the bottom.

    So I donno, I think I'm goanna start up Dirt 2 and try it again.

    I would like to note, when messing with the brightness it does seem to really effect the multiplier. Once I messed with it I had to put it to sleep to bring it back to default multiplier.
     
  45. thedazman

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    Does anyone have a problem with their new adapter staying plugged in? mine keeps slipping out.
     
  46. SlyNine

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    I have been playing for about 2 hours of heavy gaming with Prime 95 running hard. My computer shut down at the end of this log, Dirt 2+6threads of prime 95. It doesn't bug my my computer shut down. It was getting quite warm.

    I still need to test it with Brightness maxed, but my guess is it will still throttle.

    A side note, when ever I messed with the brightness, the Multipliers would get stuck on a lower setting, like around 7-9. Something to keep in mind.

     
  47. SlyNine

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    No mine fits securely. No slop at all.
     
  48. renzska

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    I'm experiencing the same exact thing. MW2 plays smooth as silk for about 1 round and then the performance drops considerably even though the CPU speed, as shown by Throttlestop, doesn't change. This makes me think the GPU is being throttled at this point.

    Thanks,

    John
     
  49. SlyNine

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    Interesting, I will have to monitor that.
     
  50. clogui

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    Nice work :D
     
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