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    Studio XPS 16 1080p RGBLED Settings?

    Discussion in 'Dell XPS and Studio XPS' started by poison7fl, May 19, 2009.

  1. iaTa

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    Yep I get it too. More often on battery as well I think. Dodgy.

    baron it's all in this thread.
     
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    vin200 Notebook Consultant

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    after adjusting the brightness and contrast in the CCC, it seems to have stopped.
     
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    Hey, Ive gone into the Catalyst control center, and I can adjust the "color" settings for "all chanels" or individual chanels and there is a contrast, gamma, and brightness slider. However... when i go into the "avivo Video" section, there are more options for saturation and hue etc. The problem is that when i adjust These settings, the color on my screen dont change. There is a little preview window where i can see the saturation decrease, but my acutal screen is still super saturated. Are these Saturation and hue settings JUST for video playback, or should i be able to adjust them and see the changes On my screen for web browsing, photoshop etc??? Stupid question maybe, but yea... its not acutally updating my screen for the Saturation and hue etc.... am i doing somthign wrong? THANKS



    UPDATE: 10 Seconds after this post I found it! sorry... lol, have to to into the "notebook panel properties" and not the "avivo video" setting. Duh..
     
  4. vin200

    vin200 Notebook Consultant

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    ok the flicker problem is still there. do any other RGB owners have this problem? whenever the screen brightness is lower than around 60-70 and the screen is mostly white, the screen flickers. i need to know if this is a problem on all screens so i can ask for a replacement.

    i called dell this morning about the problem. the tech support person wasted an hour updating drivers. i kept saying its clearly a hardware problem. funny thing, it took her a whole hour to realize i was running windows 7 (through the remote access). she gasped and said "oh my god" and said we dont support win7, please reinstall vista and then call us again and hung up. sigh.
     
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    I've never had this problem with Vista. I think your display is faulty.
     
  6. iaTa

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    No my display does it also. Running ATI Catalyst 9.7 on Windows 7 x64.
     
  7. vin200

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    called dell and they said it is defective, they are sending a new laptop. hope its better.

    just a question, will i get an new 21 day period with the new system? or will it continue from the first one??
     
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    Have anyone disabled Vari-Bright in PowerPlay of CCC, Mine has no more flicker after disabling that option.
     
  9. iaTa

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    Vari-bright? I don't have that option in Catalyst 9.7 on Win7 x64.

    I wonder if there's a reg setting as I don't want to disable PowerPlay completely as that would reduce my default clocks.
     
  10. dratwister

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    Well, It does on my CCC (Vista 64bit). Vari-Bright automatically adjusts your screen brightness for saving power.
     
  11. andy_tok

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    as i understand it, color managed softwares like photoshop and lightroom should have the colors displayed properly? But I'm getting the same bleeding red...
    anyone else can confirm this?
     
  12. asianguy63

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    hrmm mine does this too (usually a flicker of what looks like a greenish blue wash) and has been bugging the hell out of me. and it really is a defect huh? what warranty do you have, will my basic 2 year cover it?
     
  13. cedm

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    Indeed. But for that to happen, you also have to configure those applications properly (ie, tell them to use the appropriate .icc profile). And to be complete, you also have to set a color space on your pictures (are your pictures encoded for sRGB or Adobe RGB or...?).
    So, switching color management on/off on those applications should have a clear effect on the colors of your pictures.
    As I don't have both applications, I can't guide you though.


    On the other subject, my screen sometimes also slowly flickers with a slight but perceptible white balance shift, for approx 1sec. Strange.
     
  14. Technative

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    I've seen this same problem mentioned in other threads as well. My gut feeling is that this is not a hardware issue. It seems to be driver-related (ATI-driver auto-adjusting screen properties).

    I do not have the problem with my machine though (whether on battery or plugged in). I disabled powerplay because that should improve performance a little; perhaps that will solve your problem? Try to disable all sort of "intelligence" in the driver.
     
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    Thank you, cedm. Apparently the icc profile was not properly loaded on my 1640. Problem solved. Just to clarify, there's NO NEED to choose color spaces for adobe photoshop or lightroom. Both should work fine unless the monitor profile wasn't correctly loaded which happened in my case. BTW, surprisingly, windows photo viewer is now displaying the same colors as photoshop. (i'm running win 7 rc) However, in ms office picture manager and quicktime picture viewer, the obvious over-saturation is still persistent. maybe win 7 rc is somewhat color managed? ;)

    @cedm, I'm using the 40%lum profile you uploaded. The pinkish red is gone and the skin tones are back to normal.
    Thumb up for you. :)
     
  16. cedm

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    Great to know that you are satisfied by the profile! :)

    BTW, I also have noticed that some MS Windows app are color managed, but not always (if I remember correctly, when going full screen with windows photo viewer, it looses it's ability to use the profile! or maybe it is the media center that acts differently when going full screen, I'm not sure!)

    Regarding the occasional flicker: it also happens on Linux (with the ATI proprietary driver). Might not be the OS driver in cause.
     
  17. iaTa

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    Yeah I've also noticed that Windows Photo Viewer doesn't show colours correctly. Odd.

    Technative have you turned down your brightness (Fn + down arrow)? It normally only happens when your brightness is below ~ 60%.

    I'm also leaning towards a hardware problem. Not one which is going to be sorted soon however. Possibly a trait of these screens?
     
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    yes, i can confirm this. I hope win 7 would later release a service pack fixing this issue. Not sure when that's gonna happen tho... :rolleyes:
     
  19. loha

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    Hello guys! I am really happy with the Studio XPS 16 laptop and I was jsut scouting these forums after installing Windows 7. I noticed that there is a big discussion regarding screen calibration. I am pretty happy with my current setting, even though it's a tad bright. I would like to follow "cedm"'s color profile and see if gives me a better screen. Can you by any chance give a step by step instruction on how to use your color profile? Thanks so much!
     
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    Thanks, I followed your guide and it works great, thanks very much!
     
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    Ok Dell tech support just asked me to run some tests regarding the LCD flickering.

    First I had to turn the laptop off, hold down the Fn key and then press the power button whilst continuing to hold the 'Fn' key. This will launch the laptop self diagnostics. When it gets to the question that says can you see the coloured bars press 'n'. The laptop should then flash through a series of full screen colours and beep at the same time. My screen was black through this process and the agent said this indicates a fault with the LCD.

    I then had to turn the laptop off and turn it on whilst holding down the 'd' key instead. This boots straight into the LCD diagnostics and again my screen was black with a white line down the bottom, when it should have been a series of colours supposedly.

    Result is tomorrow they are sending out an engineer with a new LCD and a new sub speaker (separate issue - distorts over 50% volume). I'm not holding out much hope regarding the new LCD, however I'm very impressed with the speed and professionalism of Dell tech support.

    Can you guys try the two tests and see if you get black screens also.
     
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    Could someone else with an RGBLED screen run those two tests.
     
  24. cedm

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    Same results on the tests here (ie, black screens). Strange.
    I doubt that this test proves an HW fault, but who knows... keep us informed!
     
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    Ok the new screen has been installed (actually a whole new lid including the LCD) and the flickering issue is no more. I can now run on battery at 40% brightness with no flickering at all.

    On a separate note the new sub speaker has not fixed the distortion / crackling above 50% volume. Very poorly made I think and will be requesting another replacement until this is fixed as using VOIP apps like Skype is not a nice experience.
     
  26. loha

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    I have 2 questions. First I did the whole color profile that was provided in this thread and it worked out ok. The problem comes here:

    1. When I view a picture in Windows Picture Viewer, the color profile doesn't affect it, its the original system colors and the colors are off.

    2. The brightness I set in Quickset (40%). Is there anyway to keep it permanent? So I don't have to keep lowering it to 40% every time I boot the system.

    Thanks!
     
  27. iaTa

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    There is a setting for brightness in the BIOS. Change it there and it should stick.

    Windows Live Photo Gallery also has the same problem. I'm going to try a 3rd party image viewer like XnView or IrfanView.

    EDIT: Yep InfranView did the trick.
     
  28. cece1208

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    First and foremost please forgive me as I'm a bit computer illiterate. I'm trying my best tho:eek: Would anyone be so kind to give me a step by step on how to adjust the brightness on this thing? The color saturation is giving me headaches :confused: I've been reading the posts but I'm not getting the computer lingo, if you will. Please don't throw stones at me, I'm just desperate in trying to figure out how to adjust the screen. It's way too bright and just too saturated. Thank you kindly :)
     
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    Anyone? :eek:
     
  30. QuadAllegory

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    To adjust screen brightness: Hold down the Fn Key while pressing the
    Arrow down/up key.

    To turn saturation down: Right click on your desktop and select ATI Catylist Control Center. Then click advanced mode. Once you're in, go to Notebook Panel Properties. In there should be a section for adjusting the Saturation and Hue. Just change the Saturation down to 90, or 80, until your satisfied.
     
  31. ViperGTS

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    The gamma control slider also can effect the color saturation as well, in the "color" area.
     
  32. Bidule

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    I often change the brightness of my screen using Fn + up or down key to adjust with ambient light condition. How do i know at what % i am at ? :rolleyes:
     
  33. iaTa

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    If you install Dell QuickSet it will pop up with a bar scale when you press Fn + up or down.
     
  34. dysonlu

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    Are you sure that works? Power off and power on (NOT rebooting) your laptop and the brightness setting remains?
     
  35. orei

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    but now.. we have 3 icc profile attached to this topic.. what is the best icc profile for our monitor??

    thanks my friends
     
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    Ok so I downloaded the Eye-One Match software but I do not see any Lut-Loader? I am not sure what I do from here. I do see a CalibrationLoader application in the program files directory but when I click on nothing happens. I am new at this and I thought I followed the directions well but I have no clue what to do now. Ive downloaded the IIC file and Eye-One program.

    Any advice on where I go from here?
    Thanks
     
  37. iaTa

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    orei - cedm's matched white balance profile looks best on my screen. The cooler white balance profile reduces the screen vibrancy too much. The third profile is far too warm.

    knlmwq - The software should install a couple of items in your startup folder. One of those is the LUT loader. Apply the ICC, make it default, install Eye-One and reboot.

    Instructions to enable calibrated RGBLED colour management

    Vista

    1) Download, extract and double click on cedm's ICC

    2) Go to Control Panel - Color Management - Click Add - Select "StudioXPS16_Native_Portable_lum40%_06-07-2009" and set it as default

    3) Download and install this LUT Loader and reboot

    4) Disable Firefox colour management

    Windows 7

    1) Download, extract and double click on cedm's ICC

    2) Go to Control Panel - Color Management - Click Add - Select "StudioXPS16_Native_Portable_lum40%_06-07-2009" and set it as default

    3) Click Advanced tab - Click Change system defaults - Click Advanced tab - Tick Use windows display calibration

    4) Disable Firefox colour management
     
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    Thanks so much!! I will definitely give this a try. You guys are awesome!!! :)
     
  39. ViperGTS

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    iaTa-
    How are your reds with this profile?
    Do you have all setttings in CCC set to default?

    My reds are a little bit pinkish I think, although the white and especially blacks look great.
     
  40. iaTa

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    It doesn't change your blacks or whites.

    Reds look spot on to me.
     
  41. ViperGTS

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    Weird, it doesn't look much different from my previous settings.
    Are your CCC settings all at default level?
     
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    Yes all standard. Are you on Vista? Has the LUT loader been installed properly and is it loading at startup?
     
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    I am on Vista, and the LUT loader is loading.
    After Vista starts, a few seconds in the screen color shifts I assume that is the profile being applied.
     
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    iaTa: why do you disable Firefox color management? I need to have it enabled to get correct colors. If I disable it looks horrible. I'm running Windows 7 with no LUT Loader, just the calibration enabled globally.
     
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    If I leave colour management enabled in Firefox the colours are way off, it's as if the ICC is being applied by Windows and then being applied again by Firefox which messes things up.
     
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    What do you guys have the DC (plugged in) brightness set on in the bios?
    I think by default it is 13 out of 16.
     
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    I have mine set on 16 on AC and 6 on DC.
     
  48. orei

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    the color are amazing with the picture and if i do a comparison between the pdf that made with autocad and the real plot.. the color are same!!

    but the color that see in autocad while draw.. ARE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT!!! can't draw with the modded icc profile.. if use the original.. the color are the same.. while drawing.. but if compare the pdf plot with the real plotted paper.. differ!!!

    why this??
     
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    Are there any programs that change the settings for the WLED screen?
     
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    I'm one to normally tweak everything with the screen as soon as I get a new one. When I got my new 1640, RGDLED 1080P, I didnt have to change a thing!

    My XPS was built in Maryland. Im not sure if they have updated their inventory in that assembly center but it seems as though they got everyone's message about the color accuracy..
     
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