I got a brand new Samsung RGBLED today, I don't know what happened to "we don't supply those anymore" but I got one.
16 inches listed as FHD.
Device manager ID: MONITOR\SEC5448
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Did you receive it personally? Or did your tech bring it over to install it?
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Tech brought it over to install. Same tech as last time, he was surprised it was me because I moved since last time I saw him.
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Very nice. Now you got yourself a truly maxed out 1645.
I wish I got black(which is what I originally had), but I guess I am okay with my replacement being red. It is somewhat unique. -
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The refurbished system has to be "similar to mine" so they aren't willing to move up to a 5730 on the refurbished model. However, they are willing to give me a 30 day parts only "warranty"/guarantee on this refurbished model.
Now this deal is slightly better than before because I have some reassurance that they will at least try to make sure the refurb replacement system works but I'm still worried about the condition it'll come in and what if I get ever worse problems like throttling.
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Well i have a studio xps 1645 (specs in signature).
I have been facing heating and throttling issue. I have had multiple parts replaced on this laptop but in vain so they offered me a relplacement.
I was approved replacement about last wednesday but have't heard a word from them after that so i called dell and they said the specs would be mailed to me within 48 hours.
When the mail arrives i would request them to give me 1647 with i7 620 + RGB-LED, would the consider my request, as i dont want to face the heating/throttling problems of 1645 again ??
Also,When i baught the laptop i had to choose between Win 7 ultimate or extended warrenty, Well i have a dell inspiron 6000 which is about 5 years old and still working without problems, so i choose win 7 ulti over warrenty thinking i wont require that extended warrenty, Now after facing so many issues i feel that that i would require the extended warrenty. So now can i ask them to extend my warrenty against the win 7 ulti.
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I would be happy if got 1647 with i7 620.
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Man, dell support used to be good...now they are idiots!
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Cross-post from http://forum.notebookreview.com/not...dell-studio-17-1747-review-8.html#post6584562 and http://forum.notebookreview.com/not...dell-studio-17-1747-review-9.html#post6629889.
To call me a dissatisfied Dell customer is an understatement.
Over the past 16 months or so, I've had about 6 computers from Dell (I've actually lost count at this point, but I think this is my 6th). The first five were Dell Studio XPS 16. Every one of them was almost unusable because of the heat they generate. The heat coming from the bottom of the machines, and especially the touchpad, not to mention the power adapters (I've had both the 90w and the 130w with the same problem) is OBSCENE.
I have had mother boards replaced, heat synchs replaced, fans replaced, power adapters replaced, keyboards replaced, speakers replaced, Blueray drives replaced, batteries replaced, and a screen swap. Ive lost count at how many times Dell technicians have been over to my house for repairs/replacements (I think it's about 10). Between the time Ive spent on the phone with Dell support, having Dell come to my home to replace/repair parts, reloading software, and backing up/transferring data, I would bet that Ive now spent 300+ hours trying to get a computer that I could use.
The replacement computer they just sent me is a Studio 17. They assured me that the Studio 17 did not have the overheating problems. However, the touchpad is burning to the touch and I can't leave my wrist on the left side of the palm rest for more than a few second without my wrist hurting from the heat. (Although the computer is always hot, it is especially hot when I'm running a program called Second Life which I use for my work. However, no matter what I'm doing, the fan is constantly on.) The i7 core is running about 150-160 degrees Fahrenheit. As water boils at 212 degrees Fahrenheit, touching the touchpad is ridiculously hot, especially when your palms are resting there and typing for extended periods of time. Based on my read of this thread, it seems like you all know it well already.
As with all of the other computers from Dell, I have to use an external mouse because the touchpad is just too hot to use. However, the bluetooth for the computer keeps going in and out, as it has with many of the XPS 16s that I've had. (The Dell technician who has come out to my house so many times tells me he thinks the bluetooth is having problems because of the heat generated.)
I spent 3 days rebuilding the drive and transferring all of my data to the new Studio 17, only to find that this laptop has all of the same heat problems that the XPS 16 has. (It comes with the 90w power pack which is also burning to the touch.) I got this computer by sending an email to Dell's corporate offices.
When the Dell rep coached me to take the bottom off to troubleshoot, I learned that it appears to be either the memory chips or the wireless card that is generating all of this heat. (The heat appears to be coming primarily from the front, left-hand side.) She offered me two options: either send the computer to their service center for their technicians to look at it or send a service technician out to replace parts. As the 10 or so times that the Dell service technicians have been out replacing parts has not solved the problem, that really leaves me only with the option to send it in to them. However, I use my computer for work and can't be without it for a day, much less 5-7 days. I asked her to send me a loaner Studio 17 so that I could swap the hard drives and then they could take as long as they wanted to fix it. She said she couldn't do that.
Dell XPS 16s and Studio 17s both have significant heat and quality problems. It has got to be a design problem. I would like to speak with one of the executives at Dell (e.g., customer service, engineering, technical support) to try to figure out what is causing this problem. If the brands of memory or wireless cards are causing this problem, then swapping them for a completely different manufacturer might help. I refuse to spend anymore time sending computers back or having Dell technicians replace parts as it is clearly not solving the problem. Does anyone have an email or phone number to a Dell executive? I want to find a solution to this - not just continuing to get replacement computers. I don't care about the upgrades - I want to fix the problem.
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FrustratedDellOwner: Something's got to be wrong. I have had over 3 Studio 17's(2 x 1747 and 1 x 1749) and none of them had single problem. Cpu @ 50-53c idle and 68-75c under load. Long story short. Ask for another one.
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Wow, you have had 6 laptops all with that serious heat issues. I have the 1640 + 1647 and for me they both were never that hot. Sure they get a little warm, esp. under heavy load, but so has every other laptop I have ever used in my life. Maybe some people are more sensitive to the heat, but esp. the 1647 I have is barely warm. Hope you get the issue resolved, because in my experience Dell has been superb in their service.
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Hi All, Not to hijack this thread, but I have the famous burning question for all the GURUs out here - Choosing between INTEL i7-620m DUAL CORE and the i7-740qm Quad Core processor.
The thing is that for my laptop issues related to excessive throttling / heat in current system, I have been offered by DELL the replacement choice b/w 1645 (i7-740QM) vs 1647 (i7-620M).
I am thinking of going with the 1645 (with 1GB DDR3 ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5730) as my main aim is a generic system - basically running VMWARE machines for development / sound editing / photo-shopping / moderate gaming (Half Life/GTA/CRISIS and so on)
Should I place my bet on the 1645 (with the 740QM)?
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I never really noticed any issues with my laptop until I bought Starcraft 2. I knew something was wrong when I couldn't even run it on the lowest settings so I contacted dell and after replacing a few parts, they are replacing my 1640.
Studio XPS 1640 Problems: Throttling, Overheating
T9600 (6M Cache, 2.80 GHz, 1066 MHz FSB)
3gb DDR3
Bluetooth
Dell Wireless 1515
16" RGBLED 1080p
250GB 7200RPM hd
ATI 4670 1GB
Windows Vista Ultimate with free upgrade to Windows 7 ultimate
They offered an exchange yesterday and said I will receive it in 2-3 weeks so I don't know what kind of specs I will receive -
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I would suggest you go for it aswell.
I haven't been contacted by dell yet.
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Ok, so I was just sent another 1645 from dell to replace the one that their technician broke. I did a clean install on the machine, and tried to reinstall the drivers. I got most of them, but the webcam driver is still missing. I've been looking everywhere for it with no luck. Other posts suggest that a stand alone webcam driver for the 1645 doesn't exist. I tried downloading the system software utility that was recommended to fix the problem, but that did absolutely nothing. I also tried to get the drivers for the 1640/47, to see if they would work, but when I tried to run it, it fails at the end. One of the older posts suggested downloading the manyCam app as a workaround for this. Even though it works, it's not what I prefer. Unfortunately, it's the only thing that can recognize the webcam even exists.
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My laptop is laying on my bed being smothered (sue me) and everything inside is at 70c, and I have yet to feel anything on the palmrest.
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However, it should not be heating up your palmrest to the point of being 'painful'. If that's true, maybe your heatsink/fan is broke and is not removing heat to the exhaust vent like it should.
Could you put a thermometer on the palm rest and tell us exactly what you mean by painfully hot?
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I have a thermometer that you put in your mouth to check for fever, but I can't imagine that would provide an accurate reading of the heat coming from the palm rest.
Candidly, though I have read this whole thread, I never properly understood how to check if the machine is throttling, or even the overall concept. I ran the program (I forgot which one) to try to figure out if it was throttling, but I didn't understand how to interpret the results. Are you suggesting that, if a machine is throttling, that causes the heat and, if I can eliminate the throttling, I will eliminate the heat? If so, then I need to go review the throttling posts again and figure this out.
Also, I'd appreciate if someone could explain what it means to be "under load." Is there a particular standard that you use to determine how much load the machine has (e.g., number of processes operating, % of memory used, CPU used, amount of time at a certain CPU level). What is considered a high load vs. otherwise? Thanx.
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"I'm not sure what you mean by the temperatures being at idle or under load. I did another HWMonitor and these were the conditions at the time:
CPU 13% usage
physical memory 37%
108 processes running
Would you consider that idle or under load?
My computer typically sits on a half-inch wooden tray, and when I feel the bottom of the wooden tray, it is extremely warm. That's how much heat is coming out of the bottom - it's completely heating up the wood."
Thanx.
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Oh, it's a 17 inch Dell, but assuming it behaves like an XPS 1645, those temperatures are bad for idle temperatures, but there's something interesting going on. You have 108 processes running. That is a quite a lot - I have 73. Typically when you're computer is "idle" your CPU usage should be close to 0%. It may spike up to 3-5% every once in a while when a background Windows service does something, but 13% is pretty crazy. You should fix that.
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All the processes running are pretty typical for what I use (e.g., I have many different browsers open at the same time, spreadsheets, word processor, email, notepad, Skype, FTP, Blackberry). I don't see anything in the task manager that looks out-of-line. But are you suggesting that a laptop with a CPU usage of 13% would cause the heat problem?
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My current processor is 6M cache and this is 3m.. I had Vista ultimate this has vista home premium
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Have you tried removing the dust filter under the fan intake? It makes just as much, if not more, of a difference that upgrading to AS5 does. -
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Well, Dell didn't call me back "tomorrow". He just called back and said they have canceled that order and will reconfigure it.
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No, it won't void your warranty, and it won't cause any long-term problems. Just make sure you dust out your fan/heatsink once in a while (using canned air or whatever), which is something you should be doing anyway. -
I have an i7, and the touchpad is reasonably cool even while gaming (it gets a tad warm, maybe a bit uncomfortable, but not enough to burn).
The hottest part is the bottom (getting up to almost 120 degrees), so you don't want to touch that for too long or put it on your lap.
The tech who replaced my screen explained that you have to put the laptop on a hard surface to allow the vents below to work. If you put it on a bed or anything soft, it will heat up. -
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Hope you enjoy the new system.
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It is indeed brand new. Something I was unable to get to replace my new 1645 that went nuts after a few months. Congrats!
** The Official Studio XPS 1640/45/47 replacement thread **
Discussion in 'Dell XPS and Studio XPS' started by tenknics, Mar 27, 2010.