**The Official Studio XPS 1645 Intel Core i7 "Owners Lounge" - Part 2

Could you tell me how much you pay for it. ( do you have any special price?)
Day delivery, and get?

 

Thanks for the info Maybe you could also inform if there is any significant difference in weight compared between HD and SSD?
Thank you in advance
Rgds,

 

500gb is 110grams, 128 ssd is 81grams, 256gb ssd is "Similar in weight to a 128GB SSD (81 grams)" so probably ~90grams

 

Thanks

Kind regards,

 

Hi
Some more info about my system.
Came with A09 BIOS already installed. Checked below with out of the box config (just Win7 updates downloaded). I have no idea what versions of drivers are installed.

1. Windows Experience Index:

Overall - 5.9
CPU - 6.9
RAM - 7.4
Graphics - 6.7
Gaming graphics - 6.7
HDD Transfer - 5.9

2. Does it throttle?

When idle TS shows below data:
DATE TIME MULTI C0% CKMOD CHIPM DTS
06/03/10 13:38:00 7.00 7.7 100.0 100.0 48
06/03/10 13:38:00 7.00 6.1 100.0 100.0 47
06/03/10 13:38:00 7.00 6.7 100.0 100.0 47
06/03/10 13:38:00 7.00 6.7 100.0 100.0 47
06/03/10 13:38:00 7.00 6.8 100.0 100.0 47
06/03/10 13:38:00 7.00 6.8 100.0 100.0 47
06/03/10 13:38:00 7.00 8.1 100.0 100.0 48
06/03/10 13:38:00 7.00 8.2 100.0 100.0 47
06/03/10 13:38:00 7.00 6.7 100.0 100.0 47
06/03/10 13:38:00 7.00 7.6 100.0 100.0 47
06/03/10 13:38:01 7.00 6.4 100.0 100.0 48
06/03/10 13:38:01 7.00 6.5 100.0 100.0 47
06/03/10 13:38:01 7.00 7.2 100.0 100.0 48
06/03/10 13:38:01 7.00 7.7 100.0 100.0 48
06/03/10 13:38:01 7.00 6.7 100.0 100.0 48
06/03/10 13:38:01 7.00 6.6 100.0 100.0 47

Temps from HWMonitor:

ACPI hardware monitor

Temperature sensor 0 27°C (80°F) [0xBB8] (TZ00)
Temperature sensor 0 49°C (120°F) [0xC96] (TZ01)

ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4670 hardware monitor

Temperature sensor 0 50°C (121°F) [0x32] (GPU Core)

ST925041 0ASG hardware monitor

Temperature sensor 0 40°C (103°F) [0x28] (HDD)

When stressed for 15 min. with FurMark and Prime95 (blend) together and Clock Modulation, Chipset Clock Mod and Multiplier are NOT locked in TS
it is throttling, see ThrottleStopLog1.txt attached.
GPU max temp in Furmark 88C

When stressed for 15 min. with FurMark and Prime95 (blend) together and Clock Modulation, Chipset Clock Mod and Multiplier 12x are LOCKED in TS
looks it is not throttling, see ThrottleStopLog2.txt attached.
GPU max temp in Furmark 101C

Let me know your opinions (Unclewebb especially)

 

Well my 1645 should be here tomorrow! woohoo!

 

Do you need screen protector for Dell XPS 16?

 

My system:
RRP: AU$2,457.69
Discount: 10% -$245.77
Paid: $2,211.91

Order placed: 28 May 2010
EDD: 21 June 2010

Dell Studio XPS 1645 Obsidian Black
i7:720QM
6B DDR3 @ 1333MHz
ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5650 - 1GB
16" RBGLED(1920x1080)
500GB HDD 7200 RPM
Blu-ray
Dell 1520 Wireless-N card
Dell Wireless 370 Bluetooth
130W PSU
9 Cell battery
Win 7 Pro 64bit
3 years warranty

(Tried to put all of the above in my signature but it's not appearing...)

 

nice! same as mine but with the new graphics card and bigger hd

 

I hope you enjoy those RGB LED screens...I unfortunately wont be.

 

nothing wrong with your screen tho

 

@XPSPL

Run Prime95 as Small FFTs. IIRC, that is the highest CPU stress mode.

101C on the GPU? Holy crap, that's the highest I've ever seen. You weren't blocking the vents in any way, right? The laptop wasn't on a mattress or carpet, right? And you have the 130W?

It's definitely throttling, if you're curious. This may more "on-topic" in the throttling thread, too.

@Watergate

When I held the 500GB in one hand and the 256GB in the other, they seemed quite a bit more than 20g difference in weight. Honestly, the SSD felt like an empty case. Maybe just a subconscious thing, not sure.

@dotrunghieu

It doesn't particularly need a screen protector. If you want one, the better. A wipe with my shirt usually gets her sparkling,

~Ibrahim~

 

Consider the money your saving...

Doesn't that scratch the screen. Considering it's some kind of plastic and not glass?

 

Unless it was free like mine jk. they are both good screens though

 

I don't think it scratches it (*panics and rushes the laptop screen next to the lamp*).

It looks fabulous now that I've checked. Some persistent streaks (gonna need some micro-fiber or something), but otherwise scratch-free.

IDK, maybe my shirts are soft?

~Ibrahim~

 

I am at least satisfied getting the HD 5730 however instead of 4670. Wether or not I would trade that off for the RGB LED is hard to say. If it means 0 throttling problems then I will be extremely satisfied.

 

yeah i was hoping that I might get the 5730 with my replacement system but it was a slim chance at best. love the specs I got though. You'll have to let us know how the 5730 works for ya

 

will do,

my order was placed on sunday the 30th and is still in pre-production as of late thursday the 3rd. EDD is Monday June 14th but usually orders show up a few days prior to the estimated date. Hopefully it ships out tomorrow or monday.

 

is the heat vent problem exists for all the xps 1645's or just some? I read another thread about the heat vent blocked by the screen, and the gpu will get overheat.
do you all have this problem? I like the xps 16 but this is the main problem I concerned about, cuz I will do a lot of gaming.

 

Yes, they all have the same problem.

 

I heard some people complain, screen is scraped easily. Because Dell XPS 16 don't have space between screen and keyboard. I don't know that is right or wrong. Another thing, Dell XPS 16 is very hot when people play hard games, right! That is not good after 1 or 2 years, laptop will have some bad problem.

Ohhhh! That why I looked your posts, I didn't see any information about it. I thought you got it. I am interested because you first person will get new VGA of Dell. Thus, I need some information about it. I am waiting your laptop.

 

Thank you for making a comment. Actually I have no idea what the net weight will be on my new xps. Currently I have an Inspiron 9400 from 2006 with ''17'' Full HD 1080p screen and this laptop i heavy That is why I asked with regards for the difference between a regulary HDD and SSD

Have a nice weekend

 

Ibrahim,
Laptop was on the table plus I have 9-cell battery that makes back of my laptop elevated a little bit (should make airflow more efficient).
But the construction of air vents in 1645 is a crap. Having my screen at appprox. 110 deg. angle from the keyboard some of the air vents are somehow covered by the screen. To make them fully unblocked I need to position my screen at approx. 60 deg. angle which is impossible to work with.

I'll try to stress with settings you mentioned and on the battery as well.

101C was just for the second or two, generally GPU was around 95C. Affirmative, I have 130W.

 

oh... then how do you guys handle the heat vent problem? I mean it seems to be a big deal, it's a design flaw.

 

It is a design flaw and it is very annoying (to even look at), but the thing is really that people use their computers for different tasks. So there are different variables that could factor into the heat vent actually being a problem.

Some don't stress their laptops that much so they never reach those "high" temps and wattage requirements that would induce any throttling (never gets too hot). Additionally some people have configurations that just plain don't throttle as much as some others, also meaning that it doesn't get too hot. Some people don't even see the heat vent as an issue as they don't realize that they have any problems, as Dell masks these problems quite well. Then some people are just plain lucky and never get that hot despite how much stress they put on the system (rare).

I reluctantly bought a cooler and reapplied thermal paste severally, so I guess that's how I handle the stupid heat vent design...

 

hi,
Well i am facing this weird problem, every time i turn on my system after a while it end's up booting into diagnostics mode. I allowed it to test once, and it showed no problems. BUt, still my system boot into diagnostics on every first try to hard boot. Always need to use Alt+ clt + del combo on first start.
One thing that i noticed was that intial on first boot try, only three leds of volume control touch botton remain on . Then only volume decress touch botton remains on before ending up in diagnostics.
and further to worsen this, my Integrated LAN card has stoped working. It has completely disappeared from windows. and the light on it also don't work any more when pluged with RJ45 from the router.
If any one could make something out of this, please help.

another thing,gpuz sensor shows my shader temp to be around 400,000+ . Is this too normal ?
View attachment GPU-Z Sensor Log.txt

Thank you !

 

Hey! Could you tell me, why we need 130W?

 

Dell initially sent out 90w power adapters with the 1645s but it turns out they draw more power than that so now 130w is the standard

 

The RGB LED, i7 Quad Core and Radeon 4670 together under load (or just the i7 now coupled with everything else) draw too much power for the adapters to handle. Originally the notebook shipped with a 90w adapter and they replaced that with a 130w adapter which still isn't enough power under load in some configurations.

 

you said "still" . Oh no! How about your laptop, you will get 130W, right!
My idea will buy Intel Core i7-820. I am worrying about adapter!!!

 

Just for thought; Has anyone tried using an even bigger adapter than the 130? Like one from an alienware?

-Curious if it would hinder our throttling situation at all.

 

Hmmm what wattages do the AWs use? could help

 

It doesn't. BIOS limits the power draw to 130W

 

I could have sworn I read it allowed the BIOS to read 130 and bigger, no??

 

it can recognize >130 watts, but the maximum draw is still only 130W

 

Interesting, thanks for trying and letting us know.

 

I'm pretty sure I'll be getting the 130watt adapter as they started sending those out mainstream over a month ago...I'm also hoping the HD 5730 will take care of the throttling since it uses 10watts less.

 

It's TDP is 10 less. Not the wattage. TDP ≠ Watts.

 

hey WCB!

Would you mind if I saw your laptop detail.

 

The specifications of his future laptop are mentioned in his signature..

"Dell Studio XPS 1645 Obsidian Black | Intel Core i7-720QM 1.6Ghz (2.8GHz Turbo-mode) | 6GB DDR3-1333Mhz | ATi Mobility Radeon 5730 1GB | 500GB 7200 RPM | Slot-load Blu-Ray | 15.6" 16:9 WLED @ 1920x1080 | Windows 7 Home 64bit "

 

I want detail like this

 

1645 is here! its pretty darn saweeeeet!

 

Got my 1645 the other day (my very first laptop!): I7 1.6 Mhz, RGBLED 1080p, Radeon 4670, 6GB DDR3. Runs pretty sweet, and I'm loving the picture quality with movies so far. I fired up my copy of Mass Effect 2 on it as well, just to see how it'd fare. I managed to get about 20-25 fps on max settings at full 1920x1080 res, but it does lag hard from time to time (throttling, I guess, though I've got a 130W AC) and dip as low as 10-15 fps in the big fights.

Is this below average performance, or is this the best I can expect with my current specs at max settings? (I should say that it on max settings it runs pretty breezy at 1280x1080 - 30-40 fps).

Got 6949 with 3DMark06, btw.

 

how about temperature?

 

Idle temps for the cores and gpu are about 50-55 C right now (the comp. has been on for about 10 hours). Just playing the game for a bit takes them all up to about 80. I don't have time to play it for several hours right now, but I can tell you that it does get pretty hot. However, the fps of 20-25 is what I get immediately after starting the computer up, not after an all-night gaming session or something like that.

 

@dontrungheiu

Right. There these two little rubber things on the far edges of the speakers that give a bit of room between the keyboard and screen. So there is definitely room. But then these rubber things leave a little residue on the black bezel of the screen. That's usually what I have to wipe off, lol.

@Watergate

The SXPS 16 should be a nice upgrade.

@The Potato King

You have A09? 7K is about right with the i7-720QM/4670.

I guess, then, that it is fine with Mass Effect. The 4670 isn't absolutely amazing, but it's pretty decent.

Make sure you've got the Power Plan set to maximum performance, too. Update the GPU drivers, maybe?

 

How are you guys getting these new 1645s with the RGBLED screens. When I tried to order one a few days ago I was unable to.

Hey Potato King, how unbearable is the heat when playing Mass Effect. I am starting to give consideration to changing my order to an Alienware M15X. I am only a casual gamer at best but I don't my computer being ruined by excess heat.

 

But, my system I just ordered has the ATI 5370 if that makes a difference.

 

Yeah, I don't want to badmouth the computer or anything - it's been running like a dream with everything else so far. I didn't get it primarily as a gaming machine (got a desktop with a 4870 for that), but obviously it's nice if I can run some of my favourite games on it (I'm a huge ME nerd) when I'm away from home. Also, I don't really want to reduce the resolution because 4:3 just looks really weird on the widescreen.

I have A08 BIOS btw, and GPU drivers are already up to date.

 

Here's hoping buddy.

Why not 1280x720 or 1366x768?