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    **The Official Studio XPS 1645 Intel Core i7 "Owners Lounge"

    Discussion in 'Dell XPS and Studio XPS' started by Cin', Nov 9, 2009.

  1. peppe1

    peppe1 Notebook Evangelist

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    That is very nice if it stabilized at that.
     
  2. Zlog

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    lol i just added up last month's wireless useage. i highlighted all my dell phone calls...

    487 minutes! 7 hours!!!!!

    thats not counting tonight's either. :mad: :mad: :mad:
     
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    It can handle tempertures up to 100 C, is that what the junction temperture means?
     
  4. Zlog

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    Hey when you guys pull up task manager does it show 4 cores or 8 cores due to the threads?

    just curious ;)
     
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    clolo Notebook Enthusiast

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    That is overkill.
     
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  6. khaledseif

    khaledseif Notebook Evangelist

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    8 graphs equivalent to 8 threads
     
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    Nick29 Notebook Guru

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    I may be accused of xenophobia for this, but try to get an American rep. That's the only way I got anywhere after my order was canceled. The ones overseas (I assume they're in India) couldn't have cared less that my order was canceled without any notification and couldn't or wouldn't (either way they didn't care) do anything to rectify the situation.

    One offered to place my order over again. When I told him that I was not going to pay $600 more for the same laptop because of their screw up, his only response was "OK."

    fwiw, one of the overseas reps called me today (a week after my original order was canceled and I had to call to get a new one placed) to let me know that my old order had been canceled. Isn't outsourcing customer service nice :rolleyes:
     
  8. eblock12

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    This also means the maximum CPU usage a single-threaded process can use is 12.5%. So if a process shows 12.5% CPU usage in task manager, its actually pegging the CPU. :p
     
  9. m1n05_4

    m1n05_4 Notebook Consultant

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    What about palmrest?
     
  10. khaledseif

    khaledseif Notebook Evangelist

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    warm at full load
     
  11. PsychoGTI

    PsychoGTI Notebook Enthusiast

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    I'd love to get a rep here in Canada... I actually tried calling the Dell US support number just for kicks, but there was nothing they could due but sympathize for me.

    Any tips on how the hell to get my call out of India and into North America to somebody that would do something?
     
  12. peppe1

    peppe1 Notebook Evangelist

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    I believe you are correct and that its been published for the mobile CPU's that the t-junction is 100c. That is the temperature were it begins to throttle itself. If it continues to rise from there it will shutoff.


    Every 10 degree C you can lower the temp increases the life of the CPU greatly. The opposite is true as well, every 10 degrees C hotter the higher the likelihood of failure. I'd have to look up the rule of thumb, but I thought the mean time between failure was doubled with every 10C.
     
  13. MidtownHD

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    those stupid Dell reps couldn't care less about the status of our orders. they just want the sales commission.
     
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    Hey, can you try to see if Turbo Boost works? Instead of running eight threads of Prime95, run 2, 4 or 6.

    How does it work? Does it do all the "real" cores first then it does the fake Hyperthreading ones? Or does it do Core 1, Core 1's Hyperthread, Core 2, Core 2's Hyperthread?

    Not to "influence" those results, but I'd love to see the day when I can peg my processor to 100% usage, lol.

    ~Ibrahim~

    EDIT: Of course, I could just wait until the weekend to do it myself,but I'm curious, lol!
     
  15. Nick29

    Nick29 Notebook Guru

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    Actually, now that I think of it, I think the American guy I ended up dealing with was in the EPP department. I dialed a handful of 800 numbers and got transferred several times that evening, so it's a bit of a blur.

    It just might be that the "regular" consumers get the shaft. :rolleyes:
     
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    hsingh89 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Just ordered my Dell XPS 1645! I can't wait! I hope the heat issue really is resolved :)
     
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    sgogeta4 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    That's the normal speed.
     
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    khaledseif Notebook Evangelist

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    I tried benchmark with 1 active thread. Among the eight graphs, only one is at 100%.
    But when i ran the tortue test using any number of threads, the load is kept jumping among the different threads in order with the number of peaks equal to the number of threads chosen.
     
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    Huh...interesting. Usually, Prime95 assigns affinities to the torture tests so that it ONLY runs on a single core.

    So, when you ran with 1 active thread, did the clock speed increase any? Technically, it should went to 2.8GHz.

    ~Ibrahim~
     
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    Only when i enable the high performance power plan, it reaches 2.53GHz, but still iterates among threads, maybe this is done to reduce heat.
     
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    Hey guys, if you want to lower temps on your 1645's, try purchasing some copper blocks and placing them on the heatpipes. We've been doing that over at the Asus and Clevo forums and have seen 5-10C drops in temperature from the increased copper surface area.
     
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    Sorry for that dumb question but finally, does anyone from Canada have received their Dell Studio XPS 16?

    Thank you.
     
  23. parkjoony

    parkjoony Notebook Guru

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    I wonder if jaguar team can help out with people having trouble with the old wifi card. I called them earlier to confirm that my screen was the same as before and if my order was expedited. They were very friendly and knew what was going on.

    For the temperature: can't you add artic silver heat paste on both the gpu and the cpu to lower the temperature?
     
  24. MidtownHD

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    you're saying team jaguar or whatever they're called now, know what's going on with this model's orders and the old wifi card? I called this afternoon and nobody knows what I'm talking about or they don't care at all. these reps just read off whatever the system says. What's the phone no. you called and what's the rep's name?

    My ESD is 11/11 with EDD of 11/17 and still no changes. Should I just wait two more days to see what's going to happen?

    eblock12 ordered on 11/02 and now his/her order is in " boxing stage"

    khaledseif ordered on 10/16 and his order is shipped...

    what the hell is going on? why do we have to invest so much time and stress for some stupid mistake Dell made?
     
  25. garrettwp

    garrettwp Notebook Guru

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    Everyone, can we keep this forum for Official owners who actually own their laptops and keep the shipping and delay problems in the other forum.

    - Garrett
     
  26. surewhynot

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    Ordered 10/24 shipped 11/7 and currently in transit in the states.
    Hopefully it'll be here before Friday.
     
  27. khaledseif

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    As expected, the fan is always on even on the power saver plan with no option for turning it off.
    Same as any i7 laptop: "Always audible fan"
     
  28. Zinu

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    And what about the fan's noise? Does it reach the level of annoyance at full RPM? And how about battery life? Can you check that?
     
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    battery life and heating issues??? Anyone?? I am about to order tomorrow!!!!
     
  30. m1n05_4

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    So, touchpad gets warm, but not hot? Anyone can tell us if the GPU starts doing weird stuff while playing a game or something like that? And could someone run the battery test? Get brightness to 70-80% and idle it until 40% of battery?

    By the way, congratulations to you, future and now owners.
     
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    Same cooling layout as the 1640 isn't it?
     
  32. aleiro

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    I am getting mine today! I had an EDD 11/6, but it was delayed... of course. One thing I did with my vaio C2D when I bought it was remove the factory thermal paste and apply Antec Silver. On power save the fan never came on and high performance the fan ran at medium speed. So after some tests I will be ripping the laptop apart in a week.
     
  33. peppe1

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    Northbridge is gone so layout changed a little:
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/showpost.php?p=5503036&postcount=18

    Should be I7 under the big heatsink and 4670 under the little one.

    Southbridge may have moved up to be under the i7 and use part of its heatsink (between wifi and hdd).
     
  34. willybug

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    Has anybody run the Windows Experience Numbers:
    Processor:
    Memory (RAM):
    Graphics:
    Gaming Graphics:
    Primary Hard Disk:

    I expect the Primary Hard Disk will be the low number. I ordered with the i7-820QM, 8GB RAM and 16" RGBLCD LED.

    Sorry guys, I am a user and don't always understand all the high level technical discussion. Yes, I understand the concern about heat and plan to have my XPS located over a pretty good forced air fan system (built into my desk).

    I will use my XPS for working with Photoshop CS4 and Light Room v2.5 to edit RAW files from a Sony DSLR-A900 Full Frame camera. Each image is apx. 37MB (my most interest is how fast the new XPS will save images from the PS CS4 RAW converter to jpg (my current computer takes 11 seconds per image - lots of lost time when working with 200 - 300 images). I have done some comparisons with my friends home build w/920 processor and 12GB RAM (same images and process save in 1.9 seconds).
     
  35. sgogeta4

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    Windows WEI isn't a great benchmark and shouldn't be used to compare systems.
     
  36. willybug

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    sgogeta4, OK, Thanks.

    I will disregard info from WEI.

    Although, real world time to save images from PS CS4 RAW converter to jpg will remaing an important data point for me. I expect the 8GB of RAM and i7-820QM processor will help in this area. Hope to get my computer soon.
     
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    Well the other thread has been closed :p Otherwise I'm sure the people who arn't lucky enough to have found a useful person at Dell to fix their orders would be posting there, myself included :D
     
  39. khaledseif

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    PC Mark Vantage 64bit
     

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    About a 800 mark increase from a 1640 with P9700+vista 64bit. :)
     
  41. Zlog

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    Not bad at all. Anyone try any actual games out yet though? Realworld gaming/application performance means a lot more then benchmark numbers :p
     
  42. Asgaroth

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    YES it's a very good score XPS 1640 results around 5800-6200 with p8700 cpu. So, it seems DDR3 and i7 kicks in. it's like 25% more
     
  43. Zlog

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    im willing to bet with soem tweaking and cleanup of win7 services that dont need to be running, and some driver improvements we'll eventually see 9k-10k scores
     
  44. khaledseif

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    Battery eater is about 1hr 40 mins.
    Normal use 2:30-3:15
     
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    I take it this is with the 9 cell battery?

    Also thanks for the info you're supplying and keep it coming please.
     
  46. Zlog

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    Hey, Cin! Would you be willing to add info to the main post as people supply it? I imagine you intend to anyways, but having Battery life, benchmark results, game FPS averages, etc in one post at the start of the thread would be fantastic.
     
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    There is a good reason that it only comes in 9 cell battery, it allows air flow to the fan and the 6 cell battery would have been bad.
     
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    Yes, I'm sure the battery really helps the ventilation.

    I take it the temperatures are staying reasonable and the whole thing isn't about to burn your hands or lap?
     
  49. Zlog

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    well from what i can tell it seems like the reported temps are a little lower then the 1640 which is nice to see.
     
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    Its either that, or since they have only had it ~12 hours they havent made it back from the hospital :confused:

    I am trying to wait to get mine, unfortunately, i can only be told "In production" status, even when i call. And my rep just assumed 3-5 day shipping. :mad:
     
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