**The Official Studio XPS 1647 Intel Core i5/i7 "Owners' Lounge"**

Agree with the DeathWalking....it is the i7-720QM that is a totally different chip.

I believe the i5-540m and i7-620m, the chip is soldered on the board, you can't replace it. Where as i7-720QM it is socket based and you can replace it.

One note is i7-620M uses more power than the i5-540M, so it does get a bit hotter.

 

Just go thru Add-Remove Programs in the Control Panel and uninstall anything you don't want/need

 

I think XPS comes very clean. Only Dell dock looks dumb.

 

Ahh right thanks, that was my problem I went through it all but didntknow wht I did and didnt need

 

Can Someone confirm the i7-620m is not socketed its made in both packages and would seem very unwise to comit to bga when pga988 version is available?

anyway, ordered 1647 with 620m and hd5730 on jan 11 and still shows edd feb 5

thanks

 

Nice klyball, it will be a good system.

Just an update on mine:

I re-ordered 1/27/2010, EDD: 2/17/2010.

I got an automated call from dell saying that my order was on hold and that they needed more information... I called in and they said it was a mistake on their end and that my order was good to go, and it would ship on Tuesday.

Hopefully it's not a lie!

Total Price: $2,453.98 (after taxes)

Code:

224-7380	1	Studio XPS 16 Notebook
317-2826	1	Intel CoreTM i7-620M processor (2C/4T, 2.66-3.33 GHz, 4M L3)
317-2365	1	6GB, DDR3, 1333MHz 2 Dimm
320-8332	1	16.0 inch Wide Screen 16:9 1080p Full HD RGBLED LCD, W/2.0 MP, XPS 1645
421-1010	1	Dell Webcam Central v1.4
421-0188	1	Facial Recognition
320-1208	1	ATI Mobility RADEON HD 4670 1GB
330-6468	1	DELL RESOURCE DVD,BACK-UP,XPS 1647
341-8982	1	256GB Dell High Performance Solid State Hard Drive, 2.5MM
320-8351	1	Obsidian Black High Gloss Finish
421-1737	1	Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium, 64bit, English
421-0323	1	Windows Live Search,Multiple User Interface
420-6576	1	DELL WELCOME,Software Dimension/Inspiron
420-9100	1	Dell Dock Consumer
420-6436	1	PC-Restore, Dim/Insp
421-0187	1	Dell Support Center Software 64 Bit 2.0
420-7938	1	Dell Connect 2.1
421-0092	1	DELL-DOWNLOAD-FLAG
330-6222	1	Windows 7 Label
420-9691	1	DataSafe Local BackUp 2.0 Basic
430-3605	1	Integrated 10/100 Network Card
410-1883	1	ADOBE READER 9.0 MULTI- LANGUAGE
313-7054	1	8X DVD+/-RW Slot Load Drive for XPS1640
421-1361	1	MOD,SW,RXO,EZCD,10.3,DE,FI
421-1695	1	MOD,SW,PDVD,8.3,DVD,TT,FI
421-2000	1	Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi MB
430-3603	1	Dell Wireless 1520 802.11n Half Mini-card
410-2090	1	McAfee Sapphire MUI, 15-Month
312-0950	1	9-cell Battery
420-8051	1	Microsoft Works 9.0, English For Inspiron
950-3337	1	1 Year Limited Warranty
905-6567	1	Dell Hardware Warranty Plus On-Site Service, Initial Year
906-9210	1	Third Party At Home Service, 24x7 Technical Support, Initial Year
950-9797	1	No Warranty, Year 2 and 3
412-0360	1	Soft Contracts - Banctec
960-8710	1	Warranty Support,Initial Year
467-7771	1	Thanks for choosing Dell!
991-1179	1	LoJack Theft Recovery Service,XPS - 1 Year DHS
420-8655	1	LoJack Theft Recovery Softwarefor Laptops, 1 Year
991-9779	1	10GB DATASAFE ONLINE 1.1 FOR SDO/DIM/INS/XPS
420-9326	1	DATASAFE ONLINE 1.1 10GB
988-0099	1	To activate your online backupaccount, go to Start, Programs, DataSafe Online
330-0171	1	S and P Drop-in-Box Marcom forDHS Notebooks
464-8849	1	Special Offer - $30 off

 

1 224-7380 Studio XPS 16 Notebook
1 317-2824 Intel CoreTM i5 520M processor (2C/4T, 2.4-2.93 GHz, 3M L3)
1 317-2364 4GB, DDR3, 1333MHz 2 Dimm
1 320-8332 16.0 inch Wide Screen 16:9 1080p Full HD RGBLED LCD, W/2.0 MP, XPS 1645
1 421-1010 Dell Webcam Central v1.4
1 421-0188 Facial Recognition
1 320-1208 ATI Mobility RADEON HD 4670 1GB
1 330-6468 DELL RESOURCE DVD,BACK-UP,XPS 1647

I just placed an order but you guys notice that the screen is showing the xps 1645!!!! instead on the 1647. Is that something that is appearing on all orders? Can anyone confirm? I wanna make sure i get the 1647 and not the 1645.

 

The reason some items show different laptop model numbers is because those items are compatible with the new systems. Same with the optical disc drives, they are all the same size, and Dell makes the 1640, 1645, 1647, etc. have the same size slot for the components.

So the screen from the older models will work with the newer because it's the same size opening for the screen to go in. I know it's confusing that they don't rename the items, but don't worry.

 

Says the same thing on my order. Also says my DVD drive is for the 1640. I think certain parts are meant to be interchangeable with parts on similar models (1640/1645). Heck the only real change to the 1647 that differentiates it from others is probably the processor and maybe mobo.

 

OK gr8 Now I feel much better. Now I need to buy the 6200/6300 Intel wifi and replace the dell 1520 that comes with the 1647. Is it half mini (2x2) or (3x3) any links? I tried Google but no results.

 

Thats what showed on mine and I got the RGBLED screen.

 

So I've had a chance to play with my newly arrived 1647. Specs are posted a few pages back.

First impressions, by far one of the most sexy looking laptops I've had. The fit and finish on mine unlike some of the reports I've read on 1645's is impeccable. Even the battery locks snugly in to place where as on some of the Dells they can be loose and rattle. The keyboard is very nice to type on, spacious and well lit with little bleeding of the backlighting. I'm typing on it right now in the semi-dark (company left yay!) and its does the trick just fine.

I haven't tested battery life with the 9 cell yet but I'll do that later when I start loading software The screen is an RGBLED screen and is simply stunning. The colors are vibrant and everything on it is very crisp. I am very glad I got this screen and not the next one down despite the wait that it added. Inicidently mine came with the facial recognition software which works perfectly.

I updated my drivers for everything but video which I will be doing next. The BIOS is what it came with (A01 I think, to be confirmed).

I installed throttlestop for monitoring purposes, furmark and prime 95. When running prime95 Throttlestop reports that everything is running at 100% and my multiplier is 20. I was also running coretemp and it registered the same multiplier for a clock speed of 2.59 - 2.66 GHz. No sign of the 3.06 that its supposed to be capable of. I had the same results while running Furmark. Interestingly while either of those are running flat out the temps being reported by both CoreTemp and Throttlestop are in the low to mid 40's. As soon as I terminate the tests both packages report that the CPU temp is actually in the mid 50's. Throughout the fan comes on as needed and rarely runs full out.

Now if I run BOTH Furmark and Prime95 together my multiplier drops to 12. Temps are still reported once again in the mid 40's and jump instantly to mid 50's as soon as the tests are terminated. I can't explain the temperature reporting and assuming that something is wonky somewhere.

I have the latest and greatest turbo boost drivers installed and I would expect to see jumps upward to 3.06 GHz not a drop. Throughout however the computer remains responsive so despite being at a sustained 100% on all cores I can still do other things. I don't know if this means I am being throttled or not. My temps have never climbed above 61 and generally hover in the mid 30's.

All in all I am quite pleased thus far. More to come.

I'm going to go play some more and see what else I can see.

 

Very informative, thanks for that info +1 REP

 

What exactly is this Turbo Boost Driver you speak of?

Do you find the 9-cell battery to be intrusive or does the extra height work well when typing?

 

The speaker mesh is very hard to clean. The palm rest trim is made of very cheap aluminum and will dissolve by sweat.

 

Quote number not work out for you?

Compressed air.

 

Should I get dells accidental warranty how good is it?What does it cover?

 

I don't know if anyone notice but if you go to dell with your EEP discount for the xps, the discount has gone down....both the 1645/1647 systems are more expensive by about $100....I am glad I got mine today....

 

When you run both Furmark and Prime95 your multiplier locked at x12?? this is wired, according to Deathwalking's xps 1647 I7 620m test, he got this:

Prime95 with Furmark
Avg C0: 100.00%
Avg Mult: 20.0
Lowest Mult: 20.0
Highest Mult: 20.0

If you only got x12, could be a sign of throttling, however, the I5 540m should consume less watt than the I7 620m, so shouldn't have throttling if I7 620m is fine....could be the RGB screen sucking more watts...(thanks to arjunprabhu for pointing this out

 

The quote number was for the i7-720 and I was looking for the 1647 model. But thanks for the quote man. Anyway that was a good quote you gave.

 

-Nice info dude got mine today, its the i7-720 but part from that everything is gorgeous, the cell battery adds just enough height without being uncomfortable.
As for the drivers I havent installed any yet which ones do I need theres too many threads claiming to have different ones. A list of required drivers would be awsome.

Will hopefully have you guys some logs by the end of next week for oyu to check and add to the long list of throtteling i7-720's

 

i think deathwalking did not have rgb screen.. may be thats the reason it did not throttle for him.
So, 1647 too throttle with rgb screen... ........... i guess.

 

Its an updated driver that handles boosting the clockspeed as I understand it. It was under the drivers to download and install.

The 9 cell does add to the height at the back but I like it because of the slight angle it gives the laptop and the additional space for air flow underneath. I don't find it to be intrusive at all.

 

Oh crap, it appears that the 1647 throttles according to stormwerks tests..
Is there another 1647 owner who can run some tests? To see if this is only happening with RGBLED screens...

I had some hope.. now its gone

 

I also have an E6500 with similar speaker meshes and compressed air makes short work of cleaning it. Easier than cleaning a keyboard. As for the palm rest, it doesn't feel or look cheap and while I can see some people with a high acidity level in their sweat having a negative impact on the finishing material sweat cannot dissolve aluminum. In fact there is nothing about this that looks or feels cheap.

 

Your laptop is throttling stormwerks just like the XPS 1645 series.

The default multiplier for a Core i5-540M is 19. When fully loaded if it can't maintain itself at 19 then it is throttling. A multiplier of 12 is definitely throttling.

You won't see the full 23 times multiplier. There is constant background activity on these CPUs so the second core becomes active and the multiplier will immediately drop down to a maximum of 21. It's impossible to have this CPU at 23 for a full one second sampling period because various background tasks continually wake up the second core even when running a single threaded task. Try running a single thread of Super PI mod to see how high it goes on one thread.

Did you set TJMax in the ThrottleStop.ini file? You need to do that if you want ThrottleStop to report your core temperature. If the heading says DTS, that's a reading from the digital thermal sensor but it's not your core temperature. The documentation will show you how to set TJMax appropriately so it can display your approximate core temperature.

Post some screen shots so we can add another Dell product to the endless list of throttling laptops.

 

Yup very. At idle it reports that my multiplier is at 9. With either Furmark OR Prime95 but not both running it climbs to 20 and locks in there. If I start the other one my multiplier immediately drops to 12 and stays there until I shutdown one of the two apps.

Of course, I don't have a lot of experience with these so I could be doing something wrong.

 

@Stormwerks

What drivers should I download ? What did you use a litst would be greatly appreciated, sorrry im not lazy just ignorant. I havent got a clue.

Many Thanks in advance

Josh

 

SON OF A ***CH
I was so excited about ordering this soon looks like I'm going to have to get a mac

 

And everyone is rushing to buy the 1647's because a few say they don't throttle. I would say this is funny, but it really isn't.

 

Lol GAME please dont go mac what would your kids think if their dad was a mac user

 

hold on hold on.. Furmark+prime95 is a good test to see the max the machine is capable of pulling. But isnt exactly realistic for everyday use. The test to do now is to run some stressful games etc and see what happens. It could be very possible its so on the edge, any real application will be just fine.

The rgbled screen will pull more power then the wled somewhere around 5-8w more. Try doing that test on minimum brightness and see if it doesnt throttle. That would mean it would be on the very edge.

Ultimately try some games etc, and see if it throttles.

but yeah that is a bit of a downer

 

So is it safe to say that the RGB LED is what's causing the throttling for the xps 1467??.....I guess those of us without the RGB LED is safe for now.....huuuu...

Can you try test it with the battery and see if you still lock at 12x?? I know that for the 1645 they don't throttle on battery ...

 

Im trying to catch up here, sorry for this but arre we saying that the i5 series also throttles ?

 

Yep, it looks like the newest system that dell put out throttles, and they still say they are trying to fix the older ones.

 

At this point it seems like that is so but theres no clarification

 

well...for now, it seems like the 1647 orders with the RGB LED throttles.....However, if you don't have one..according to Deathwarlking's result, you should be fine....

 

WOW I was sure it was only the i7 Quad cores that throttle. Bugger!! this story just gets more messy the further you go!

And GAME in all honesty the macs arent bad my room mate has one and its not a bad machine, although if gaming is a must I wouldnt reccommend it.


But im sure you know all this and more P.S Hows Disney Land looking lol ?

 

Also what thermal pase do you guys reccommend? Im looking at Arctic Silver 5 but dont know if theres anythin better ?

 

I was just kidding about the mac,I still will not give up on the studio because its the one laptop I have liked since the start.I'm Going to take a look at the sony and double check the Hp.

 

You probably want to check out IC diamond, it should be the best one out there now....

Have you check out Asus?? they got some pretty good ones... I was going to buy the G51jx-A1 ....I decided the XPS 16 because it simply looks more professional..

 

HAHA thank F**k. The HP isnt for me I just dont like their machines I think they are ordinary, however the Sony....LUSH! But not as good as the Dell but I guess thats the price you pay for a working lappy lol.

GAME any suggestions to my Thermal paste or driver issue lol. No one seems to want to answer.

 

Thanks for the reply dude I will check it out, bette than the Artic Silver 5 you think ?

The ASUS was my choice before this! Only prolem is the screen on those, they ae pretty poor.

 

I'm the last person that would know I'm far from knowledge able on these things

 

Masscool Shin-Etsu G751 and Tuniq TX-3.

 

That makes two of us lol.

 

That IC Diamond 24 Carat looks nice, thanks for all your suggestions guys, do we have a deffinative answer ?

 

In a well threaded game, an XPS 1645 with a Core i7-720 would start to show signs of throttling when two threads were fully utilized and the C0% was around 25%. That's the equivalent of only one active core. If it's throttling and dropping the multiplier when gaming then a Core i5 or i7 Dual Core CPU with a much higher multiplier and a similar load won't be too far behind. The die shrink to 32nm definitely helps but with the inadequate 90 watt adapter that Dell continues to ship, there's no margin for error. A screen that draws a couple of more watts might be enough to send you over the edge into throttling while gaming.

 

So as long as we don't get the RGB screen I will be fine right?

 

Every laptop is a unique combination of parts. Until some thorough testing is posted, it's impossible to say how big an issue throttling is going to be on these new laptops. For most normal uses they might be fine.

You can have two CPUs with the same part numbers and same ratings but their actual power draw might not be exactly the same. Same thing for the GPU.

Hopefully stormwerks has some time this weekend to do some more testing and post some log files from when he is gaming.