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    **The Official Studio XPS 1647 Intel Core i5/i7 "Owners' Lounge"**

    Discussion in 'Dell XPS and Studio XPS' started by DeathWalking, Jan 20, 2010.

  1. anveshs

    anveshs Notebook Consultant

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    I think that is the reason dell removed 620s from their US site,high competition :cool: with qauds
     
  2. kezuk12

    kezuk12 Notebook Evangelist

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    Possible... But here in the UK we still have both the 620 and the RGBLED! Maybe Dell is a bit biassed towards Britannia these days! :D
     
  3. anveshs

    anveshs Notebook Consultant

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    It was never available on the site here,may be on the phone initially but not now ;) ,620 with 5730 would be the best choice overall :cool: ...
     
  4. anveshs

    anveshs Notebook Consultant

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    errr GreatBritain :rolleyes: :p
     
  5. kezuk12

    kezuk12 Notebook Evangelist

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    620 + RGBLED + 5730 (+130W adapter ;)) would be the best configuration! :)
     
  6. anveshs

    anveshs Notebook Consultant

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    yeah RGB rocks,gonna cu later tata :)
     
  7. Gloomy

    Gloomy Notebook Evangelist

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    Well, the reason why I chose the i7 Quad was better gaming performance. If I'm not mistaken (and I'd feel bad if I am) Battlefield runs better on quad cores than it does on dual cores... and it's really the only game series I'm interested in.

    I was hoping that Clarksfield would get refreshed and when I looked into it, was disappointed. That almost pushed me over the edge into the i7-620. But I took a dive and went for the 1645 anyway, and it did disappoint... had to have it replaced twice. But now, on my third one, it's running amazingly and I could not ask for more. I'm still hoping for a 32nm Clarksfield refresh... but if it doesn't happen I'll just sell this laptop before its time and opt for the DELL model with intel's new 32nm Quads. It's no biggie!

    I do have a throttle-free 1645 after all :cool:
     
  8. seeker_moc

    seeker_moc Notebook Virtuoso

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    Intel is not releasing an Arrandale quad-core. They're sticking with Clarksfield for the high-performance :D quads. You'll have to wait for Sandybridge for an updated quad-core.
     
  9. kezuk12

    kezuk12 Notebook Evangelist

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    Oooo Sandybridge... *drools* :D

    And seeker_moc, now that you have that Avatar I can't go anywhere on this forum without seeing your big yellow face! ;)
     
  10. darthjones

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    I'm thinking about picking up a Studio XPS 16 with a 2010 Intel Core i5-540M (2.53GHz) processor and ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5730 (1GB) video card. This will replace my very loud Asus G72GX. I specifically picked the i5 version instead of the i7 for the possibly lower noise levels. What can I expect in terms of fan noise?
     
  11. kezuk12

    kezuk12 Notebook Evangelist

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    Depends on your room temperature quite a lot! If you're in a well air conditioned room then I wouldn't expect the fan to make a lot of noise at all, but if you're in a hot country then expect the fan to go on every so often!

    When the fan goes on it is noisy, but you get used to it. If it bothers you then a cooling pad will help! And maybe reapplying thermal compound if you think you're up to it!
     
  12. fmac

    fmac Notebook Evangelist

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    Stop recommending a cool pad as a solution!
     
  13. kezuk12

    kezuk12 Notebook Evangelist

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    Stop expecting a thin and powerful laptop to be cool to the touch!
     
  14. knlmwq

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    I have the same config but replace hd 5730 with 4670 and add a RGBLED. I am very pleased with the how low my fans usually run.
     
  15. daredevil anand

    daredevil anand Notebook Geek

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    i agree. even HP envy 15 with a better built quality has the problems of overheating and high fan noise.
     
  16. Texanman

    Texanman Master of all things Cake

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    Um.... no it doesnt... the gen 1's have that issue... gen 2's not so much
     
  17. kezuk12

    kezuk12 Notebook Evangelist

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    Well you could say the same for the Studio XPS, and most other laptops!
     
  18. Locutus

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    This is laughable. A cool pad is the perfect solution. It works for me and many others. Come out of the stone age dude.


    Ditto
     
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    I have a new Dell XPS 1647 with the ATI 5730 GPU.

    I game so I wanted to update the old Dell driver so I uninstalled the old driver and ran driver cleaner in safe mode. I installed the new ccc from ATI, that installed, but it says I do not have an ATI driver installed, I have retried it a few times and nothing. How do I get the driver to install?

    Does the ATI driver come in the catalyst control center or is it separate, what am I doing wrong here?
     
  21. fishayyy

    fishayyy Newbie

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    Hey guys, newbie here. :cool: I've been hanging around, reading the forums for awhile. Anyway, I purchased a 1647 from BB (got a great deal...otherwise wouldn't have bothered with them). In hindsight, baaad idea. Within two HOURS of initializing the computer, started getting BSoD's like CRAZY. I mean, literally, every 15 minutes. I'm not the extremely techy type, so I just wanted to post my problem to see if anyone knows what the issue is. :confused:

    What I have done to try to solve the problem: update BIOS to A09, update most drivers, run chkdsk, win mem diagnostic basic check.

    I also contacted Dell Support, got cut off in the middle of the chat (love you too, BSoD! :mad: ), Indian dude who I can barely understand calls me and tells me that my hard drive is faulty. Huh? A hard drive problem?

    Problem signature:
    Problem Event Name: BlueScreen
    OS Version: 6.1.7600.2.0.0.768.3
    Locale ID: 1033

    Additional information about the problem:
    BCCode: 7f
    BCP1: 0000000000000008
    BCP2: 0000000080050031
    BCP3: 00000000000006F8
    BCP4: FFFFF80002A9EEC0
    OS Version: 6_1_7600
    Service Pack: 0_0
    Product: 768_1

    Files that help describe the problem:
    C:\Windows\Minidump\081610-15038-01.dmp
    C:\Users\User\AppData\Local\Temp\WER-48251-0.sysdata.xml

    (Sorry if this doesn't really explain the problem...I'm not exactly sure what to include.)
     
  22. snozim

    snozim Newbie

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    catalyst center for ATI mobility 10.7 doesn't have drivers for the VGA only the new catalyst center!!!


    I've downloaded and tried a dozen of drivers and combos, nothing worked for me,, then i came to this one from that strags site(ty strags) strags.com - Currently ATI Mobility Radeon HD Depot ;) , and i tried that version:
    version 8.740.0.0000! ATI-8.740.0.0000-XP-2003-Vista-2008-7-x86-AMD64.rar!

    I'm using it for some time now,, it works,, u can then download that latest cat 10.7 from ATI site and update your cat from 10.6 !! but remember to uninstall the previous cat before installing the new one!
     
  23. snozim

    snozim Newbie

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    I was wondering about something now,, I've the 1647 with i5-430 and 4670,,,

    the temps underload maxes out to about 80 degs but the fan monitor always say that the fans are always at 30%(b4 load and under load) ,, i got that from everest and GPU-Z,,,

    is there something wrong with fans monitor or the fan,, if they spin a little faster i might get a cooler system or what? the strange thing is that i hear the fans get louder occasionally ....

    any help?!
     
  24. lwinstead

    lwinstead Notebook Enthusiast

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    I just received and unboxed my new Studio XPS 1647 (i5-540/ATi 5730)! I'm planning on wiping it out and getting Win7 Ultimate x64 loaded on, but oooh! It's so shiny! I almost don't want to touch it! :p So far I like the looks and the feel, but that power brick. WOW is it slim! If this (90W?) is this slim, just how big is the 130W?
     
  25. kezuk12

    kezuk12 Notebook Evangelist

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    Glad you like it! And the slim one will be the 90W adapter. The 130W adapter isn't massive compared to it though! Still some impressive innovation from Dell in the adapter department! :)
     
  26. kgriffin6979

    kgriffin6979 Notebook Geek

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    Does it feel like the laptop is too hot? If not heat, perhaps it is bad memory. If you can get into Windows just go to Start and in the search box type memory, click memory diagnostics in the results and tell it to run a test on the next reboot. I usually change the parameters to extended and to use cache as well. If the memory is a problem this will probably reveal it (and it's easy to do).

    Edit to add: I'd make liberal use of the Best Buy return policy in any case, as there's something definitely wrong with the laptop. Make them give you another one until you get a good one.
     
  27. fishayyy

    fishayyy Newbie

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    Yeah, I'm definitely thinking about returning it. The laptop actually runs extremely cool, I haven't experienced any heat problems thus far. I ran a memory test a few days ago and nothing showed up, but it was only the basic test, so I'll run the extended one next. Thanks for the advice.
     
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    Edit: just ran memory test, no problems. :confused:
     
  29. Cornetto

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    could be a problem on the motherboard which will be much more difficult to figure out. Just exchange it for another, don't even waste any more time on it.
     
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    Hey, guys! I'm helping a friend choose a laptop for college and have a couple of questions.

    We're looking at the Studio XPS 1647 i7, and we want to make sure there isn't a big throttling issue. I understand the 1640 has an issue, but do the new machines have the same problem? If so, how bad is the actual throttling? He won't be gaming on battery obviously, but the machine should be able to perform well at all times!

    Also, how's the battery life? Is it reasonable to expect 3+ hours of battery just surfing the web with office open? Thanks in advance for your help and consideration!
     
  32. kezuk12

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    If you're talking about getting the i7 620 and the 5730 GPU, throttling shouldn't be a problem. I have the i7 620 with the 4670 GPU and I don't throttle. Some people disagree though and it might just be the luck of the draw, some machines are horrible for throttling, but some are great in all departments!

    On the 'power saver' power plan, I get at least 3 and a half hours from mine when doing light tasks. It depends a lot on the screen that you get, WLED is much better for battery life compared with the RGBLED (which may or may not be available to you). I get an extra hour battery life if I go from 100% to 10% brightness on the RGBLED.
    I once even got to 4 hours, so 3 hours shouldn't be a problem!

    My advice would be to get the 5730 GPU for power efficiency, and the WLED 1080p display. Then you will definitely get over 3 hours!

    Best of luck! :)
     
  33. Gloomy

    Gloomy Notebook Evangelist

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    Red is the best color by the way.

    Not gonna lie, black and white are really good looking too-- the laptop could be doo doo brown colored and still look great. But the red. The red is striking. You know?

    Like, Apple already played out the whole black and white thing. They're both excellent color choices for a computer. very neutral. And that's what sucks. Nobody really breaks away from that trend. When I first saw a red SXPS irl, I automatically thought, "Damn, that guy's got swag."

    It's really, really good. Not like Mercedes Benz good. More like [insert other luxury car manufacturer that isn't cliche] good. Like wearing a tie casual good. I'm-doing-my-thing-and-you-wish-you-were-me good. So good.

    For the record, I have the white. And it's kinda plain, even though it is exceedingly excellent in the looks department.
     
  34. kezuk12

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    Red looks a little lady like to me to be honest. No offence to any male red owners btw!
    I have the white and some people would say the same about mine!

    I'd love to see a dark blue or silver concept model. Maybe mix up the colour of the leather a bit? A christmassy red/green combo perhaps? ;) :D
     
  35. Gloomy

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    I think I feel that way because the white leather is too damn crisp. Like on the other colors, the leather is a bit off and subdued. But on the white, it's freaking powder white. There's no contrast. The white screen doesn't show off the shine as much as the other two.
     
  36. kezuk12

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    The white is beautiful!
     
  37. cook99

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    How thin is your laptop when it has to be sitting on a cooler?
    And how powerful is it when the CPU throttles all the way back to 600mhz like my 1640 did.
    And to expect the average user to be able to open up and apply thermal paste is ludicrous - Dell should support their customers and fix the problem.
     
  38. kezuk12

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    We're not talking about 1640's any more. They had their issues, which have been dealt with and improved upon for the '45's and the '47's.

    Also, my CPU doesn't throttle down to 600mhz. It turbo boosts up to 3333mhz.
     
  39. Gloomy

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    2800mHz here

    I was afraid that the 840 would force a throttle, and the only other upgrade they had was a 740. So I just went for the baseline cuz 720>740 makes no dang sense. In retrospect I should have gotten the SSD as well, since 450 bucks for 256GB isn't so bad. But whatever! I'm getting one soon ;)

    by the way, it's so cute when it slaps a 13x multi on four cores, eight logical processors ♥♥♥
     
  40. anodize

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    I find black way too common. I got a red one to replace my black one and I can't say I hate it. It's unique. :)
     
  41. Sydero

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    Could someone tell me how Starcraft 2 runs on the XPS 16, along with your settings i.e. resolution and quality? I'm thinking of buying one for working and SC2.

    Does it get hot and noisy when idle? What about when running at full load? Should I spend an extra $300 for a two year warranty?

    Thanks
     
  42. snozim

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    I'm playing it for some time now on my 4670 and i5-430 its smooth on medium details 1600x900!
     
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    On laptop colours, grey is absolutely the worse colour a laptop could be! Unless it's shiny and less than a year old. Or if it's a MacBook Pro or a HP Envy 14.

    A Cooling Pad is not a solution to overheating! Laptops should be able to cool themselves well - even if they cannot, don't expect everyone to have bought or to have been prepared to use a cooling pad! Otherwise the laptop should come free with one, like it does with a power cord. A cooling pad is not the functional equivalent of laptop thermal solution. Same argument applies for thermal compounds. Furthermore, most cooling pads are placebos!

    By the way, the XPS is not super thin in comparison to other laptops! Any other laptop with i5/i7, a similar type GPU, and 15 inch screen, is round about this thickness! Just look around! The only exceptions are of course Alienware, Sager, Clevo.
     
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    You are the one that makes me laugh.. You mentioned that I am living in the "Stone Age", well, I am not the one that bought a laptop and after that bought a cool pad. I cannot imagine that as being "modern". Taking away the fact that you look really stupid using a LAPTOP on top of a cool pad its not functional at all. Why didnt you buy a more powerful desktop PC for less money? For mobility reasons you could have bought another PC and still it would be cheaper and FUNCTIONAL.
     
  45. Gloomy

    Gloomy Notebook Evangelist

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    I'm not using a cool pad. My temperatures are in the 40s while web browsing. and max out in the 70s while gaming.

    I carry my laptop to school and the library and it behaves similarly in all places. I have no heat problems. The palm rest remains slightly above room temperature while typing or surfing the internet and only marginally hotter while gaming. Your laptop is not working properly.
     
  46. fmac

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    What?? Im not using one either, please read again.. maybe you made a mistake quoting me because your answer has nothing to do with what I wrote.
     
  47. Gloomy

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    Yes it does. You're claiming that this PC shouldn't need a cool pad to work properly. And I'm saying it doesn't need one. Maybe you should read again?
     
  48. kezuk12

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    Okay well lets agree that a cooling pad is something you should bear in mind when buying a powerful laptop.
    To say it doesn't perform properly without a cooling pad is silly, because it does.
    A cooling pad helps your components do what they do best when maxing them out, and if you look at other powerful laptops like the Edge 15 which is similar and the MBP i7 15inch, then you'll see that they're just as hot as this machine.
     
  49. seeker_moc

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    This laptop runs just fine without a cooling pad. I game on mine, without a cooling pad, and I have no problems with it. Of course it gets warm when running at full load, all performance laptops do that. If you want a cool laptop, get a small 14 incher with integrated graphics, not a 16" one designed for high performance.

    Keep in mind that the CPUs and GPUs are designed to run at up to 100C, a temperature that it doesn't reach, even for people that are complaining about it being too hot.

    I do have a passive (fan free) lap desk for it, because it's comfortable and keeps my leg from blocking the fan intake on the bottom, but I wouldn't call it necessary.
     
  50. Gloomy

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    I removed the branding stickers that came attached to my palm rest. Whoever slapped them on on my replacement system was careless; they were crooked and misaligned. After a few weeks I got fed up with them and removed them.

    This left a sticky residue tat refused to come off. If any of you guys are planning to remove the stickers, DON'T RUB THE RESIDUE. It just smudges and spreads and makes it several orders of magnitude harder to remove.

    What you have to do is get petroleum jelly. Put some on your finger and cover the residue, then work it in gently. After a few seconds it should start rubbing off. You can then apply more pressure and rub more vigorously. It takes a few minutes but all of it should come off completely. Be careful when wiping it off though, as you may smudge it (the petroleum jelly acts sorta like water does to oil, suspends the glue off of the surface in small chunks... if you press too hard it will smudge).

    Took a while but I got my palm rest completely clear, and it looks nice. Seems bigger and shinier (until I touch it). :)
     
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