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    Vista 64-bit on XPS M1330

    Discussion in 'Dell XPS and Studio XPS' started by trebuin, Aug 19, 2007.

  1. the_maxx_guy

    the_maxx_guy Newbie

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    Update:

    I fixed my NTLDR issue, booting from VISTA DVD, going to Command Prompt and typing:

    bootrec.exe /fixmbr
    bootrec.exe /nt60 all /force
    del C:\boot\bcd
    bootrec.exe /rebuildbcd

    Referring post: http://neosmart.net/wiki/display/EBCD/Recovering+the+Vista+Bootloader+from+the+DVD

    It worked, and my VISTA is now working.
    But the MD button, now takes me to VISTA as well ???

    Tried re-installing MD, still the same thing. Takes me directly into VISTA.
    So it is acting like another power button.

    Any suggestions?
     
  2. jf4real13

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    I posted a while back about getting occasional blue screens in Vista Business x64 on my M1330. I didn't have any of the stop codes then so nobody here could really offer any help. Today I was able to record my stop code. It is as follows:

    0x0000003B (0x00000000C0000005, 0xFFFFFA8005B466B0, 0xFFFFFA600FA23180, 0x0000000000000000)

    Does anybody have any idea what this code could mean?

    I have been searching around the internet with regard to this code and every single problem I have seen is people talking about a 64 bit OS. Is this just due to the fact that 64 bit has different stop codes? Or is it possible just being in 64 bit is somehow causing me a problem? I am strongly considering heading back to 32 bit but that would cause me to have to do a hell of a job to get my computer back to the perfect level of customization I have achieved so far. Any advice?
     
  3. kozzney

    kozzney Notebook Evangelist

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    What have you been doing when this BSOD appeared? I seem to remember that I got a few BSODs back when I first installed x64 on my M1330, but I can't remember what I did to get rid of them... Maybe something will jog my memory...
     
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    Hi, I am new to this and am looking forward to putting Vista 64 bit on my system. I am doing my preparation work and have a couple of questions, very rookie ones I am sure. First, this 1330 zip file that you have us download, Trebruin, is some of the drivers for the machine? Was there a reason you did not include the wireless drivers (not saying you had to, just wondering if there was a specific reason why)?
    The whole Ahci mess is totally confusing. I download the file, which ends in exe (in other words it is a program). I then have to put that file onto a usb drive and then run the program. So, the usb drive will have the exe file plus whatever other files the program creates. When I run the program, why do I have to put an "a" after exe? Also, where you download the ahci program on the Intel site, there is a file that can be made into a floppy. Can I use that instead as I do not have a usb drive but do have a usb floppy drive? Okay, I ran the program that I downloaded and it just installed the drivers on my system, no way to just keep it on a usb disk. I am sorry but I am totally confused as to what to do. I am not stupid, I just need some very specific, step by step instructions.

    Thanks for putting up with my basic questions so far. The last question is what bugs does vlite cause as that is what I used to make my 64 bit disk?

    TIA everyone! And much appreciated!
     
  5. yasdaz

    yasdaz Notebook Evangelist

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    Hi, I get the instructions, I just do not know which file is the one which I click on to extract the drivers. That's the part that is not clear :). Again, I appreciate everyone's help and all the work that has gone into this thread.
     
  6. yasdaz

    yasdaz Notebook Evangelist

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    Sorry, please bear with me. I am understanding this a bit better now. I downloaded the latest Storage driver from Intel. I ran it as is and in windows explorer I found the intel folder and within it the folder labled Vista 64. I am assuming that is the folder I put on a usb key. However, I am stuck on the instructions to run it with an a switch. I tried to add a dash and an a to the file name and windows could not run it, did not recognized it. How do I run it with an a switch and why? Much thanks, again!
     
  7. jf4real13

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    Specific instances that I recall include watching Video on my Slingbox (2 times, works all other times), and setting my audio playback default to HDMI (just once, works all other times).

    The last one I got was one that I got while newly using RMClock for undervolting. I had tested the levels that I had and they appeared stable but within an hour of normal use I got a BSOD. I am not chalking up that failure to Vista 64-bit, but if I get another while I am not using RMClock I will examine that stop code closely and then make my decision from there.
     
  8. kozzney

    kozzney Notebook Evangelist

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    I think you need to open a command prompt, then run the .exe with the a switch like this:

    Code:
    (DIRECTORY)\*.exe -a
    
     
  9. kozzney

    kozzney Notebook Evangelist

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    Yea, the RMClock BSOD does not sound like a Vista x64 failure to me either. And as for the other ones, maybe there are some random incompatibilities with the Slingbox, and as for switching audio to HDMI, I have never had a problem with that, so you were probably just unlucky.

    And now that I think about it, I think my BSODs were related to Windows Update, in that the updates caused BSODs on reboot.

    Sorry I couldn't help you more...
     
  10. yasdaz

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    Hi, thanks for the command prompt tip. What does the a switch do? Much thanks, again :)
     
  11. kozzney

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    Hah, I have no clue lol, I just know how to do it :rolleyes:
     
  12. yasdaz

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    Thanks again for answering, lol! Okay, I appreciate everyone's patience in hanging in with me through this process. I just have this last issue. I ran the Intel program and found the 64 drivers file. I can put this file on a floppy (I have an usb floppy drive) or usb key and direct the system to this file at the stage where Vista is asking which partition to use, etc... The last issue is that I ran the program without the switch. Does that make a difference? Will it work without me using the switch? Thanks again :)
     
  13. trebuin

    trebuin Notebook Evangelist

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    That switch forces the files to only extract to an intel folder in your program files directory. Without it, it would try to install it on your current system and wouldn't allow you to copy the files to your thumbdrive.
     
  14. trebuin

    trebuin Notebook Evangelist

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    It's possible that slingbox could cause that. I'm using something called magicjack and even though it works on vista, it wrecks havoc on my system as it was not well programmed. I'd more point to RMClock as messing with CPU directly seems to be the second greatest cause of BSOD for me.

    The first world-wide is from running programs that have been so poorly written that they force install themselves over critical windows files located in the RAM. Vista 64 tends to be far less susceptible due to the random memory loading and fluid memory flow design that OSX has used for years to protect itself from viruses. Vista 32 does not have this feature.
     
  15. panther07

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    Trebuin,

    I posted a question in NBR members Vista Tips and Tweaks Guide pertaining to having to press F8 in order to "Disable Driver Signature Enforcement" everytime I reboot in order to invoke this new video driver I am using driver 174.74. How do you use this driver and not have to go thru this F8 procedure?

    Thanks..


    I resolved it.... thanks
     
  16. yasdaz

    yasdaz Notebook Evangelist

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    Thanks so much for the explanation! I did run it without the switch and it did install. However, with the full install, there is a folder called Intel and within that folder is a folder called 64 bit drivers which I copied to my desktop (and will copy to either a floppy or usb drive). I am assuming the files inside the 64 bit driver folder are the ones I need. Am I right? Thanks :)
     
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    Bump...sorry...

    I would really like some help with this? Any suggestions from anyone, who has achieved this result? Making Vista 64 Bit Ultimate work, with Media Direct button actually working, without booting the OS?

     
  18. trebuin

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    That is correct!
     
  19. trebuin

    trebuin Notebook Evangelist

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    I've never had to do that with laptopvideo2go's drivers. It's possible that you have found one of them that are unsigned, though highly unlikely. Anyhow, if you're using the F8 method, there is no way to avoid invoking that mode. There is a workaround where you can default "test mode" and then disable the waterscript, but I would look more into you drivers to see what is actually not working.

    I used to have a problem with Rivatuner's overclocking utility, but they released a signed driver to fix that.
     
  20. panther07

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    Greetings,

    Is SRS Audio Sandbox the way to go for Audio w/ the migration to x64 on the m1330?

    Thanks....
     
  21. trebuin

    trebuin Notebook Evangelist

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    Media Direct is difficult to get working on your own in general. Les wrote some instructions after using my method of vista install. I would recommend checking that out as I don't use media direct. http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=157838

    Some problems I have found is that if media direct has not been completely installed, hitting that button changes how the partition acts. I ended up creating a blank partition in that space so if I accidentally hit the media direct button, the computer wouldn't act like it was just formatted. Of course, I could hit it again and it would restore. I hope this helps.
     
  22. trebuin

    trebuin Notebook Evangelist

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    Hey! I use SRS Audio Sandbox's x64 drivers on my m1330 and it works like a champ. It was well worth paying for. I may end up posting some info on some other drivers that act like Audigy but is free.
     
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    I couldn't get MR to work properly either and I was thinking about.. when I reload x64 to format the whole drive and see if I can get windows media player associated with that button.

    I opted to keep pcrestore partition but I think I may get rid of it. I am noticing that my machine is running cooler also.

    thanks.


    Update: Went back and started reading thru Les's bloatware and was able to get MR working.
     
  24. panther07

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    Can somebody tell me how to get the side (sliding) functions working on the touch pad. These are the functions that allow me to scroll up and down or side to side by moving along the right side or bottom periphery of the touchpad.

    I downloaded the Alps touchpad; I couldn't get the synaptics to load. Any help will be greatly appreciated.

    thanks.....


    Update: Guidance is needed on this one; I sincerely don't have a clue on this one because I don't know the applications. Thanks.....


    Update: The file was corrupted during download; wierd .. I had to load it into my temp directory and then copy it to the synaptics directory in the temp directory (>temp > synaptics" for it to get there w/o corruption. After I did that all installed w/o problem. This is definitely a first for me.

    I must say that I am loving x64....It is a cleaner install and my machine is so much faster and runs so much cooler. I basically reformated the "OS" partition and loaded Vista x64 into it. Now I am making sure that I have all of the OS stuff working correctly before I load my applications. This machine m1330 is alot better than I first felt. My screen is so much crisper and the fonts aren't blurred like in the "stock" install. I would definitely recommend a Vista x64 migration to anybody. Plus, how can you go wrong w/ excellent teachers like Trebuin and Les.....and plus the rest of the community.......

    The number one annoyance I have now is that I have to set my display intensity everytime I log on. Dell Quickset seems to have a problem w/ saving this setting......(Just a thought) ------>>>> Resolved.....

    Once again..... THANKS!!!
     
  25. panther07

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    Trebuin,

    So you are enjoying this program...I have looked at it but if you have nothing but praise for it.. I will probably go out and buy it. So, you definitely see value add in this application? Thanks.....

    I have been posting like a mad man, this weekend. I followed the m1330 threads and when I received my machine I was holding back from going to x64. I then took the plunge on Friday and I am attempting to get my m1330 the way that I want by Monday... I am almost there. Two things left are SRS Audio Sandbox and MS Applications.

    Thanks.....


    downloaded the x64 version from the SRS site and couldn't get it to work. It downloaded the lite version for the trial. I couldn't get volume from anything. I am a little disappointed but I will try later when I have more time. I went into the SRS folder and did some adjustments (I can't be more specific because I already removed it from my machine.) I have to find something that can handle voice on this machine a little better. I tend to listen to my voice mails on line and the x64 thru media player is really bad. So, this is why this was a priority for me. Any other suggestions will be appreciated. With the lite version I didn't even get the interface box. Also, it may be due to the trial box which kept on failing. After a reboot and several attempts it seemed to have realized that I was using it as a trial and that I didn't have a registration number.
     
  26. psychrometric

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    Does SRS Audio Sandbox offer an improvement for all m1330 or you have the extra audio card? thanks!
     
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    I got another BSOD last night without using any of the aforementioned programs. RMClock, Slingplayer etc. were all close and yet I got the same exact Stop Error Code. I contacted Dell and ran a diagnostic....no issues with hardware. Going to call Microsoft later...don't know what to do. Really freaking out because I love my computer so much and have it set up to such a great level of customization that I don't want to lose everything being the way it is. If I could just get rid of this one issue and move on...
     
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    I used the synaptics one which is listed on the first page of this thread. Works great for me...
     
  29. panther07

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    Psychrometric,

    I only have software. I didn't have the hardware upgrade that Dell offered.
     
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    Synaptics works great; file corruption. I seem to be getting corrupted downloads.
     
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    If I head back to 32 bit after having been on 64 bit for a month and a half, will I notice a significant performance downgrade? I monitor my Ram usage and I have never even been above 2.5 GB. I don't think the issue will matter too much. I'm thinking about the whole "64 bit processing" idea. I'm not too worried about the security features either as I trust my anti-virus program and it served me well on 32 bit for a long time.

    I believe I am making the jump back to 32 bit because the Dell techs will not give me full support due to them saying that Dell does not support this OS. I'm just going to go back to 32 bit because good support is too important to me and if this problem persists in the 32 bit environment then I will at least know that they will help me through it until completion of the problem. 64 bit has been fun while it lasted, though.
     
  32. trebuin

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    Before that, I'd recommend doing a scan on your memory and hard disk to make sure they're performing well. Also, you might just want to reinstall vista 64 and your programs to see if you can reinvoke that problem. If it does not appear again, great. If it does, go to 32 bit and do the same thing. If you see it again there, there's a strong chance it could be another hardware problem. I'll be honest, I haven't had any BSOD since playing around with the ACHI and it's extremely doubtful that it's related to your problem.

    As for performance, You'll notice that Vista 32 just feels slower in general. If you do any encoding stuff (depending on your software), you could potentially see a 50% hit on that performance. I would actually recommend switching to XP over Vista 32 as Vista was designed to be a 64 bit OS.

    I'm sorry I can't help you pinpoint this problem anymore than I have. Good luck.
     
  33. MrAl

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    Thanks for the great resource on installing Vista 64 on the m1330. After doing a good amount of research on the subject, I finally took the leap. Here's some things I found during my installation that weren't posted here and were generally concerns throughout this and other forums. I believe that many issues were worked out with Microsoft, Dell, and many of the software companies since so many users have installed Vista x64 on their m1330 and requested fixes since it was released.

    The following drivers are available for Windows Update if you go through the cycle of perform Windows Update and restart the system about five times. Once you finish the cycles, you will have SP1, all of the security updates, and every driver you need. However, the AHCI and wireless drivers do need to be installed manually.
    • NVidia 8600M GS video driver
    • Webcam
    • DVD/CD-RW
    • Bluetooth
    • Ricoh

    The following software now works on Vista x64 without a hitch which was a problem for people in various forums over the last year or so.
    • Eclipse 3.3.2 (still 32-bit, but works okay with 64-bit Java and some other compilers. 3.4 will support full 64-bit operation)
    • Fingerprint reader and software (thanks for the link!)
    • Microsoft Office 2007 32-bit
    • Dell Support
    • Quicken 2008
    • Google Desktop
    • Adobe Reader

    The following 64-bit freeware are great replacements for software you might have had on the previous system.

    The performance increase seems significance for running scientific and programming types of 32-bit applications like MATLAB, Octave, Scilab, and Eclipse. Picture editing in Paint.NET is quite a bit quicker than picture editing in Adobe Elements on the previous installation.

    Again, thanks for everything :) My next step is to try to see if Microsoft will give me the 64-bit office 2007 software since I own the 32-bit 2007 software. I'll post how that goes.

    UPDATE: Yeah, there is no 64-bit version of office :( What a strange decision made by Microsoft .
     
  34. lynnskii

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    There is no 64-bit version of Office.
     
  35. yasdaz

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    Hi, this might sound like a basic question but is there a way to confirm that everything with ahci installed okay (apart from the obvious bsod issues cropping up, lol!)? TIA as always :)
     
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    As far as I know, there's no 64bit binary for Paint.net. I have been using it for many years and love it.
     
  37. MrAl

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    The 64-bit binary is fairly new according to Start64. It isn't explicit on the download site, but paint.Net installed into the Program Files/ path rather than the Program Files (x86)/ path. Check it out: http://www.start64.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=111&Itemid=72
     
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    For those who have installed the fingerprint reader software before 5/5/08 with the same link you will find a new build version 5.8.2.4367

    [​IMG]
     
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    Hi, I have installed 64 bit (yea!). Two things. First, I installed the ahci drivers during the install; how do I know if everything installed okay (other than bsod or any other breakdown, lol)? Second, when I installed it, there were three partitions which I deleted; os, recovery and the dell media one. That left me with one unformated partition which was numbered 2 as opposed to 1. Then, when I got things up and running, I only had 110 as opposed to 120 gb on c drive. I know that it does not always show up as exactly the amount of space you have but I didn't think I would loose 10gb! Then I remembered that there is supposed to be a 4th partition, diagnostics. So, am I missing space and if so, is it the missing diagnostics partition and if so, how do I see it and get rid of it? Much TIA
     
  40. sesshomaru

    sesshomaru Suspended Disbelief!

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    The diagnostics is a 76MB partition.. Check out Disk Management in Control Panel\Administrative Tools\Computer Management , for a list of partitions and free space..
     
  41. yasdaz

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    Oh, thanks! It is there, cool. I can keep the diagnostic partition if I want; I hope it still works the same way. I guess then that I have just lost 10gb which kinda sucks given I only have 120 gb. I will have to live with it I guess but somehow it does not make sense that I would have lost that much space. Is there any way to check if the ahci thing is installed okay? Also, I have the fingerprint driver but where is the program to actually enroll your fingers, etc..?
     
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    I don't understand what you mean when you say you have "lost" 10 GB.. Is it showing up as unallocated on the Disk Management snapin? Or does it show up as another partition?
     
  43. yasdaz

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    The total capacity of my 120 gb drive reads as 111.79 gb including the diagnostic partition according to the snap in. By the way, I found the fingerprint program, now learning how to use it, lol! I have enrolled my fingers but it does not show up when I start windows, just asks for my password. Also, again, is there any way to check that the ahci driver is installed properly? Much thanks, Yasmine
     
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    Ah! Now I get it.. The Hard Disk indeed is 120 GB.. It is just that manufacturers and windows calculate capacity differently. Also, some space is required for partiotioning tables, MFT etc. So the 120 GB HDD has an actual formatted capacity of 112 GB.

    You'll have to enable fingerprint login from the Control Center in the FPR s/w.

    For the AHCI driver, open up device manager, and check what expanding the Disk Drives gives you. If you see something like XXXXXXXX SATA/AHCI device, it's fine.. The only surefire way of making AHCI work is by installing the driver during the Windows install process..
     
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    Thanks. Charming that I am loosing that space; lucky that I don't need it, lol! Still, would be nice to get what I paid for. Thanks for the ahci information, can confirm I installed it correctly, phew. And yes, I did install it during Vista install. Now I have to find out how to work the cc for the fingerprint reader. Nice that it is different from the 32 bit version from Dell, sigh... Anyway, I have now sucessfully installed Vista 64 bit complete with all devices installed with correct drivers and all applications :). Another happy customer due to the information from Trebruin, Les and everyone else on this thread. Thanks so very much for everyone's contribution!
     
  46. Pappy23

    Pappy23 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hey, guys, I am having trouble finding the proper AHCI driver for my M1330.

    I downloaded the driver from x-drivers.com as suggested and when I tried to load this driver during the installation, I got the message:

    [Intel(R) ICH8M-E/M SATA AHCI controller] device driver could not be installed. Contact your vendor for an updated driver.

    There are other drivers in the same file, and I tried all of them without success. But this 8M-E/M file was the only one compatible with the hardware on this computer.

    When I tried to downgrade to previous versions, I could only find the installation manager, and not the driver itself. I wasn't able to extract the driver from the packages.

    Which driver did you guys use for this?

    thanks much,

    Edit:
    #$)(*#% Intel Matrix Storage Manager v.7.6.1.1002 is the only one that works and isn't in "manager" form. By the way, if you failed loading a driver prior to trying Intel Matrix Storage Manager v.7.6.1.1002, Vista will fail claiming the primary partition is not a system partition. Just restart the system and start over.

    Just in case anyone else is wondering why the AHCI driver isn't working, use.

    Intel Matrix Storage Manager v.7.6.1.1002 from x-drivers.com
     
  47. Pappy23

    Pappy23 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hello, I have encountered a different problem.

    I have not been able to get 174.74 to work on my M1330. current driver is 156.xx, and I have SP1 installed.

    Whenever I try to install the 174.74 with the unmodded version of the .inf - or any other version, for that matter - curiously it doesn't even initiate the installation even though the original supported the model included the 8400MGS.

    Very well, so I try the modded .infs; the install is fine, but when the M1330 reboots, under device manager, the 8400M GS complains of a code 39, file not found, and refuses to initialize the driver.

    Did any one of you update the video driver beyond 156, and if you did, did you encounter errors like this?

    thanks,
     
  48. sesshomaru

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    I am currently using 174.74, from xfastest.. No problems, since I installed(which was quite a while back)..
     
  49. sesshomaru

    sesshomaru Suspended Disbelief!

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    I am currently using 174.74, from XFastest.. Have been using it since quite a while.. No problems so far..
     
  50. trebuin

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    I was using 174.74 from laptopvideo2go until my m1330 joined the vertical line club. Wasn't the driver's fault. The drivers have to be modded as the unmodded only support certain desktop GPUs. Sometimes it can be really finicky trying to set it up right.
     
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