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    Vista 64-bit on XPS M1330

    Discussion in 'Dell XPS and Studio XPS' started by trebuin, Aug 19, 2007.

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    got it, in advance options, thanks.
     
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    Phewwwwww.
     
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    [​IMG]
    You just click load driver on this screen. The only thing is your going to need to have the driver on a usb stick to do this.
     
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    thanks, reinstalling...no more bsod with ahci boot!!
     
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    Glad to see it worked out for you.
     
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    Thanks for the screenshot. I'm going to end up posting this method on the front page.
     
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    ok, I may just be a moron, but how do we get the X64 Vista off the IRC? I've never used Internet Relay Chat before.

    thanks guys. this thread is incredibly informative.
     
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    Your not a moron. Irc isn't very difficult to learn its just a bit intimidating at first.

    Heres a good guide that'll teach you the basic commands for learning how to download from irc.
    http://www.slyck.com/irc.php

    If irc is too much to learn right now the easiest route is by torrent. The winbeta aio which was referenced in the first post is readily available on many torrent sites. I'm not going to provide a link but google is your friend.
     
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    Hmmm I'm still having this issue by getting a BSOD when restarting. Cold booting still works OK though with ACHI enabled in the BIOS. It appears that a reinstall with these drivers included is the only way to go....

    On this note have any of you used vlite to slim down the Vista Ultimate 64-bit install. I suppose this is more important for those of us with the SSD drive to try and conserve space. I'm going to have a go at making a slim install DVD for Vista...
     
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    my Vista installed with Office and freeware and my 3Gb of stuff still has 13Gb free.

    There is a good way to reduce your pagefile if you are looking for that; no performance implications. Just ask if you want it.

    Also, yes, install the Intel Matrix driver; that most certainly is why you get the BSOD on hot reboot.

    Next time, if you reinstall, install that file during when you come to the select partition screen and it has a menu to install files. I havent done it yet, but apparently you can just insert your drivers disk that was supplied and pick up that file.

    Im curious about Vlite but...I do a complete PC backup regularly at different levels as I get closer to the perfect system.
     
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    I'll post my results when I'm finished tinkering with vlite. There's a lot of extra "features" included in vista that I just don't need and are taking up a lot of space.

    For example:

    1. By default Japanese, Korean, Traditional and Simplified Chinese language files are installed and they total 1381MB - yes megabytes!

    2. There is over 1GB of random drivers included with Vista. Modem (254MB), Graphics (87MB), ethernet (11mb), scanner (15mb) and printer (841MB) drivers are all installed by default. Removing these just means, for example, that you have to install the driver for your printer off the CD or from the net as opposed to Windows just recognising it. How often do you use a new printer/modem/graphics card? The trade off is totally worth it here.

    3. The built in games (solitare, minesweeper etc) take up 200MB. I never use any of these built in games.

    4. Media Centre takes up 600MB. I'm not sure if i'm going to use this or not so I left it in but it is possible to uninstall this at a later date anywho. Some people might never use this and could remove it.

    5. Movie and DVD Maker take up another 230MB. Again, you will know if you are going to make use of this feature or not.

    6. Speech Support! This uses up a combined 1280MB. This is for the features where you can talk to Vista and get it to write what you say etc. Again, I have no use for this feature.

    Would it be worthwhile me creating a new thread on this for people to slim down their installs?

    Also using vlite you can install drivers into your image by default. I've included some of the 64-bit drivers into my image as well.

    I'd be interested how to reduce the size of your pagefile. Although I'm considering investing in a fast SD card to leave in the card reader for use as a readyboost drive. Or would this even be faster than the SSD?
     
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    Do you just remove those options in add/remove programs or what?
     
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    1. I think it would, many people don't like doing things like this if they don't hear about other peoples experiences about it. vLite is a great piece of software, and at least for me (also an ssd owner) getting rid of a few gigs of the vista installation is very helpful.

    2. Did not see an option for this, using the vLite 1.1 beta. If we could include most/all of the dell and other drivers in the installation it would be very helpful for a most-likely-to-come-future-reinstall.

    EDIT: Maybe it could be possible to include the Matrix driver in the installation so that the AHCI boot problem could be fixed without installing the driver prior to the installation?
     
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    Regarding the pagefile...

    If you have 2Mb of Ram or more...

    Go to Start/Control panel/Performance Information/Adjust Visual Effects/Advanced/Change and change it to custom size 600 initial/1200 maximum.

    On restart you will be surprised at the space you gain as pagefile has been resized.

    Re: Readyboost... Its useless on a SSD as the SSD speed is equal to that of the card unlike the HD which is slower. There is abs no extra memory gained or 'boost' realized.


    And OH YES!! I would love to gain space getting rid of speach and languages etc.
     
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    I've just finished reconfiguring my laptop to how I like it. I have 10.2 GB of my Drive used incorporating Windows Ultimate 64-bit, Microsoft Office 2007, Adobe Photoshop CS3, Adobe Fireworks CS3, Firefox and TuneXP :)

    vLite was excellent in removing junk from the vista install. And after I had removed all the features I didn't want nor need the install image was onlt 1.6GB (pre-install size - this is uncompressed during the install). I installed Vista off a USB key using this guide http://www.otgnet.com/Content/Default.aspx?Cat=all,Title=3764

    I will make a thread about how to cut the not needed stuff out of the vista image in a bit.
     
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    I cant wait to read it. I am really curious how you van now re-install Vista off your USB key. What size is the USB? Does it include anything except vista?

    This would be so much easier than always creating new disks if i could do a complete PC Backup on a USB flash.

    Just like 007!!!
     
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    I have a few 4GB USB keys so I used one of those but the install only took up 1.6GB of the key so a 2GB key would do the job. I'm going to leave that image on the key in case I need to revert back at any time. The key is still perfectly useable to store other stuff on with the remaining space left on it.

    I only looked into it cause I didn't have any blank DVDs left and didn't fancy heading to the shop! Haha. It installed in less than 10 minutes too (not sure the exact install time) which is much faster than off the DVD directly.
     
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    The good part is your not wasting DVDs. Every few days after determining that an update or new idea is successful, I do a completePCbackup which takes a few disk; they are then waste when I do it again.

    This way I can just overwrite the flash again and again. BEAUTIFUL!
     
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    My 1330 came with "FOS-I501 -Genuine Windows Vista(R) Home Premium".
    The operating system CD that came with the computer is a 32bit one.
    The license tag under the laptop doesnt say anything about 32 or 64.

    Can I still install vista 64bit? Do I have the correct license?
     
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    There are alot of views on this. If you have a 64bit version and use your 32bit key, it will validate and, in fact, it will continue to validate over the phone as Im told.

    The only thing that is asked is if there is only one copy of vista running for that key.

    On the other hand, microsoft won't include both versions and will sell you a 64Bit version if you want it.

    Yet again, somehow its legal if you downloaded the win-Beta version and utilized your key, so long as you are only using that key for one system.

    The answer in the end is, "Who Knows?"
     
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    Can I make do with just a torrent file?
    Since my key would determine which features could be unlocked, does it mean I could download the vista ultimate, and only activate "home premium" features?

    this is indeed mind boggling.
     
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    Let me put it this way. If I were a hacker with bad intentions, I could easily write some of my own codes in to a Vista ISO to, oh say, transmit credit card numbers, phone numbers, birth dates, bank account numbers, passwords, and so on.

    That's the problem with getting Vista from a source like that. But anyhow, Winbeta I know is ok for now, but it's currently not released in their IRC.

    To actually answer your question, The Microsoft Vista install CD includes either all 32 bit vista versions or all 64 bit vista version. Winbeta's version includes everything.

    If you do get Vista via some unapproved source, make sure when you burn it to disk, virus scan the disk with either Kaspersky or Nod32. Then when it's finished installing scan again, before you use any personal information, before you activate or provide any keys as well. Trial version virus scans work great for this. Don't use your key on Vista until you have scanned it completely. Even with this said, there's no telling what viruses have not been identified. Anyhow, good luck.
     
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    Hey all, I just picked up a shiny new M1330 and was browsing and found this awesome forum. I want to re-install windows and figured it would be a good time to go with 64 bit. I went to Winbeta's IRC and found a couple versions of the 64 bit vista. They list one which is titled "Windows.Vista.RTM.AIO.DVD.Part1-WinBeta.rar" with "Windows.Vista.RTM.AIO.DVD.Part2-WinBeta.rar" as well. I think this is the one the OP refers to. They also list "Microsoft.Windows.Vista.SP1.Update.64Bit.Build.6001.16633.DVD.READ.NFO-WinBeta.rar"

    I was wondering which one would be to use to install Vista 64bit. I would assume the SP1 version is a beta of Vista service pack 1. Does anyone have any experience with this file?

    btw, I have an Ultimate license.

    Let me know :)
     
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    Ide go with the one with the later date (lol)
     
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    I'd stay away from the sp1 beta till its final. The winbeta aio=all in one which has every version of vista and you just pick the one you want at the beginning of the install. Its the version i used for my install. Just make sure you get all necessary updates after the install is over.
     
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    I've gone ahead and put Vista X64 on my M1330, but i have one VERY annoying problem: I can't decrease the brightness from the max level. When I hit Fn + the down arrow, the Quickset box pops up showing the brightness going down, but the screen actually stays the same. What can I do about this? I installed the latest X3100 drivers off Intel's website.

    Thanks guys. you've been real helpful with everything.
     
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    @jwzimm: Use the RTM, not the SP1

    @MrDeeds: I agree with you totally. Unless whoever really wants to betatest the new one and suffer through reinstalling over and over again, don't do it.

    @Nyonya: Troubleshoot this like this:
    Dimming should work during Bios boot and Vista start with the black screen. If it does not dim, you have a hardware issue and should contact dell.

    If it does dimm, make sure you have the nVidia driver installed or the Intel video driver installed. Good luck.
     
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    I'm pretty sure it's not a hardware issue, as the brightness control worked fine when I still had Vista X86 on the computer. I've tried installing and re-installing the Intel drivers, still nothing changes.

    Anyone else here gotten Vista X64 to work on the Intel X3100? Maybe the driver is just not ready for real use yet :-(
     
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    64bit intel driver for X3100 works fine here.
     
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    just tried reinstalling the video driver again...no luck.

    the weirdest part is that if I hit Fn + down arrow enough times, it seems to turn off the backlight completely. Is there any sort of monitor driver I can install?
     
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    thanks for the link, but that is the exact driver I've installed over...4 times? already, and nothing new after another restart.

    any other steps I can take? I like the 64-bit Vista, but it's unusable this way, kills my eyes at night.

    maybe the fact that I have the LED display has something to do with this?
     
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    Well, found that I will not be able to see a few updates unless I check in 32-bit vista under dell's site...like the bios being A06 now.

    Edit:
    Actually, I'm wrong, I checked the 64 bit and Dell just overwrote the older stuff...I just didn't notice.
     
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    Dude?! You still looking for x64? :eek: Man were talking about x128 now! ;)
     
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    Hmm, I just installed my vista x64 and I've got a pretty big problem. It's not detecting my graphics card. I've tried installing the one that Trebuin has on the first page, but I get an error saying that it is "incompatible with my current hardware" or something.

    Also, my sound doesnt work.
     
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    K. when you onzip the graphics driver, you need to download the inf file and put it in the folder with all the files before you hit the install icon. If there isnt an inf file avail, go down the driver versions list until you see the last inf file and use that.

    Tackle that first. As far as sound, there are 64 bit sound files available but you CANNOT use soundblaster so dont install that. Is that what you did?
     
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    thanks flamenko! the graphics thing worked out!

    now, sound is still a problem. I get a message every time I try to install it and it says "Device Object not found." and it wants me to restart and try again. That never works though. any other suggestions?
     
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    Ok...first and foremost, confirm that you have tried to use the sound and there is nothing. Next...ensure that the driver is the correct one.

    Your system is no different than any other m1330 made.

    Did you, at any time try and install the Soundblaster disk?
     
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    Hehe, I wish that was the problem. Yeah, the volume's up and I'm playing a legitimate sound file on a legitimate media player. In the device manager it only shows Bluetooth stuff under the audio section. And I don't have soundblaster, so I didnt try to install it.
     
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    Go into device manager and see what you have for sound. You should have this...if the driver you are trying to install is the 64bit one as directed.
     

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    Yeah, I definitely don't have that. I have "high definition audio" or something.

    Discovered yet another problem with x64!! Intel Matrix Storage Manager says that my system doesn't meet the requirements for it to install.

    EDIT: Just got a message saying it was installed successfully, for some strange reason (the audio), but I still have the Intel Matrix Storage Manager problem.
     
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    Edit: Nevermind
     
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    Just realized there is a second, FAR worse problem with Vista X64 on my computer. If I unplug the laptop, the backlight goes completely off, and there is no way I can convince it to turn back on. Clearly, I'll have to be going back to 32-bit Vista if there's no fix for this.

    I really want the improved performance and the ability to use all 4 GB of my RAM...is there anything I can do?
     
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    try to change power option?
     
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    Check your power settings for when you work in battery mode.
     
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    ok, by changing the battery setting to 'high performance', I can get my screen to remain just as stupidly bright on battery as plugged in.

    is there any hope of my computer ever being able to change its brightness? or should I just go back to 32-bit Vista right now and lose ~775 MB of RAM?
     
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    I dont think tha has anything to do with 64Bit. Im wondering if you checked that when you were in 32 bit...
     
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