XPS 15 2-in-1 with 8th Gen Core G?

Maybe, or like I said, maybe they screwed up their calibration. I did on one of my devices, and it was horrible trying to edit photos and they come out looking all wrong. Popped on my calibration equipment to see what was up, did a re-cal, and bammo, great looking again! It happens. But, maybe they got a dud screen, that does happen. Not often, but it does. I have had devices be DOA, just send it back, got another, and good to go. NOW, when you have issues like I did with my asus vivotab RT, where ALL THREE I own have the same issue, then you can call it a **** product!

 

I get where you are coming from. They check the color accuracy of the screen before and after calibrating though. Sucks that they got a crap panel for review since many people, myself included, take their reviews very seriously.

 

It's always better to get more than one opinion. I NEVER look at one site when I research a product. I visit a variety of sites, and sources EVERY TIME. Takes bias out of it then. When every site says the same thing about something, then it's probably correct. But when you only look at one site, who state something, and you take it as gospel, then that is a disservice to yourself, and other when you spread that as you take as gospel.

 

Lol ok you can get off your high horse. I look at numerous reviews but for screen calibrations I go to NBC.

 

I don't know who that is, I have had bad dell products....Just that there is ALOT of Dell bull crap on here...

I am not on any high horse any more than you are with your constant XPS crap this, XPS crap that!...

 

Lol I never said XPS crap, I said they suck at cooling which I've shown proven time and time again. I've also shown users ways to help their XPS not suck at cooling as much. I really wanted you to comment on the Jeep thing that I posted in the 9570 thread, I thought it was funny and spot on.

 

No one uses a locker in 2wd in a jeep...Just as no one should use an XPS for gaming....NOT WHAT IT WAS DESIGNED FOR! A locker is used for crawling over obstacles at low speeds to create grip for tires on the ground when you stick wheels in the air! I had both of my axles "arb LOCKED" on my wrangler unlimited. I know all about them (as I am a mechanic as my job at the moment) I would not install a locker on a sports car no more than I would use said sports car to move my house furniture. Try again!

 

You totally missed the point.

The point is the XPS gives you all the features of a gaming laptop but won't allow you to use them. For instance you're saying that the XPS isn't designed to use the CPU and GPU at the same time. Why have both if you can't use them?

That is exactly like a rubicon giving you all the options to wheel but then limiting them. That's exactly like saying you can't use the rear locker when it's in 4wd because it will put too much stress on the transfercase, and you certainly can't use the front locker as well... You would be pissed if your jeep couldn't use its features off road, I dunno why you're so cool with the XPS limiting its features.

And yes I had ARBs in my TJ, I realize what a locker is for... I wouldn't have sprung for a ZR2 if I didn't...

 

No, my friend, you are missing the point. The XPS is NOT A GAMING device. That would be like saying I want this Ferrari to off road with...it has the power to do so. ...SIMPLE...if you can't understand that, then I guess you have comprehension issues. If you want to game buy an Alienware, or something. SIMPLE.

 

So you're saying the XPS is a mall crawler and even though it's set up to handle gaming it simply can't (aka looks pretty but is not functional). If you want to use a Ferrari as an example it would be like one that is speed limited to 55mph but wants to be a track car. Your offroading of a Ferrari example doesn't make sense. We are discussing something that has ALL of the components to do something but can't handle it. Your argument would be better suited for a laptop with a 8750h and no dedicated GPU wanting to be a gaming rig. Anyway I'll leave it at that as we've wasted enough of this thread's space.

 

@custom90gt mind if I ask how to do this please, not had much experience at calibrating and I've got some drone footage to colour grade and would like to get the screen as good as I can?

Appreciate any pointers!

 

So you really have two options.
1. buy a colorimeter - a device which can visualize the color of the screen and then calibrate it (the best method).
2. use someone's color profile from their calibrated monitor - not near as accurate but sometimes worthwhile. Normally I would say go to Notebookcheck and download their color profile but their 4k screen was junk so their color profile is too. If you have an FHD (I can't recall which you have) you can use the NBC's color profile for that though.

 

Great thanks, and I have the FHD so I'll to to NBC and give colour profile a go then.

Oh and I also have the same model screen as the profile so thats good.

Well its activated and looks to me a bit different, slighty warmer I think (but I'm a noob to all this)!

 

The real question is if it looks good to you. If so keep it, if not go back. I actually liked their 1080p profile on my 9570.

 

Mind enlightening what photogs you read? I have found 1 done by an actual photog and it was a pleasing review with the exception of delta gamma scores and adobe (they hit 77%). For giggles, I just recalibrated and did a color check on my current MSI GE73VR that I use for editing when I dont feel like getting on my desktop, and it passed 90% Adobe RGB, 100% sRGB and 82% NTSC (they claim 92% on their site). So while videography is best kept to the desktop, the laptop is exceptional for photography, and my many happy clients can attest to that part. But I digress, I will run a calibration fully on my 4k panel when it arrives next week, add the profile to the site here, and give a full calibration report as it comes back to me both before and after calibration.

Cheers

 

Excited to hear your results. Sorry I didn't search more for color accuracy results. I believe lisa@mobiletechreview got something like 98% on adobe rgb, here is to hoping! Although several redit users have been disappointed in theirs.

 

Yeah, I just found someone who did it and got 98% as well, that is great to see and hear. They used a spyder5 pro to confirm.

 

Yeah that's interesting. I know NBC uses a X-Rite i1Pro 2 to measure their reviews, I know it's an expensive colorimeter but no idea if that equates to good or better.

 

It's literally the best and a staple for photographers (namely commercial photographers). Most photographers who run their on business with it or travel blogs etc they use spyder5 just because its quick and fairly accurate.

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I like it, the colours are a lot more accurate - I have a desktop picture of one of my dogs on the sofa and it is now so good it matches the colour perfectly, especially compared to other machines its on.

Thanks again. Now if I can fix the BT range on the machine I'll be able to start using it in the lounge.

 

I use the spyder as well. I need to have color accuracy for designing motorcycles, and coming out with the correct color schemes that I photograph from the existing bike etc...

 

Well I got my xps 15 late last week. Used it throughout the weekend. I boxed it up and returned it. The only reason I did this, it's just to big of a deivce for what I want. I travel a lot, and need a compact device. I thought it would be ok, but compared to my inspiron 2 in 1 its just too big. So, I am going to place the order for the xps 13 2 in 1 in the maxed out configuration to take the xps 15's place. The perfect device for me.

 

Lol forgot I made the cricket club because I proved Kojack wrong.

Anyway I have a inspiron 7373 and the 9575 wasn't much bigger than it, weighed more but that's about it.

 

It's only 0.4kg lighter than my 17" MSI Raider with desktop graphics. Definitely a heavy computer but its size is still right for my travel. The benefit of larger screen real estate is a massive win by comparison to the slight weight difference even comparing it to the 13 2 in 1. The downside there of course is the inability to do light gaming. Either way, everyones needs will be different

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Sadly the XPS 9365 2-in-1 is a real dog. The CPU is ultra low power (slower than my i5-5300u) and the battery life still sucks. Dell really needs to redesign it. The only things I liked about mine were the screen and the size, other than that I wasn't impressed at all.

 

Definitely the worst product in the XPS lineup atm.

 

I just find the 13" device the perfect size for me. Big enough to edit photos and videos on somewhat comfortably, but still able to pack light in my expedition rig, plane, motorcycle etc.

 

I just hope that editing videos is a very once and a while thing, unless you've got all the time in the world, lol.

 

New heatsink. Same problem of core temp delta (11C at max). What the **** is going oin

 

Adobe RGB 97%
NTSC 94%
sRGB 100%

Monitor was slightly cool upon arrival. Thunderbolt works fantastic with external GPU. Toshiba NVMe SSD in my unit, so I'll have to monitor it. Spacebar is the only key that is off feeling slightly.

 

There is a LOT of variations in everyones panels. (see reddit) so calibrations profiles are moot to upload. Each person will need to calibrate their own. Having said that, I can upload the file if someone should request

 

This is not a popular problem in recent XPS laptops.

Is your CPU relatively flat? I don't think you can lap a modern BGA lol.

The CPU temp sensors are not uber precise and recently @unclewebb noted they can vary up to 5*C, an estimate I have seen elsewhere.

Regardless, at this point I would RMA to Dell.​

 

It started with 10C delta and I got it up to 15C delta. Then I give it up on the piece of ****.

 

So eGPU . . . Updated to the latest thunderbolt drivers tonight and updated gtx 1080 drivers for my aorus gaming box. Overclocked the CPU in XTU with an undervolt and launched farcry 5 in 4k locked at 45 fps with a mix of medium to ultra settings. It's quite the experience. So far I'm a believer in this laptop. Time to change to the samsung 970 1tb ssd after I confirmed my extended warranty today. Oof.

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Is that 4k on the internal or external screen?

 

Internal!

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I'm think of getting the 9575 with 4K screen but the only thing holding me back is the reports of poor battery life. Are there any tweaks that will improve the battery life?

 

running in FHD might help.

 

No. It still drives the same display. So it doesn't effect battery life like you may hope.

Running things in battery saving modes works well. There was a report that after doing an undervolt and adjusting all the power saver options on, standard web and word processing use came out to around 6 hours battery life on the 4k model. YMMV.

I get around 2 to 3 hours max using mine on battery mainly streaming music via bluetooth while working in lightroom and photoshop with some touch screen use and the power mode on performance. This is plenty for me since it's rare I do work away from an outlet.

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He has made this claim before without substantiating it. My best guess is the Intel IGP draws a lot more power driving a 4k display vs 1080p. The display scalar/controller (and IGP DP controller) may also be smart enough to downclock to DP 1.0 speeds when driving 1080p, rather than the DP1.2 needed to drive 4k60p. That's all speculation from me, though, since I lack a 4k display of any sort.

 

My reasoning is that since smartphones often allow you to run in lower resolutions to improve battery life, the same thing has a small impact for computers as well. My 9570 4K i7 running in FHD gets 8 hours real-world battery life after undervolting, which I think is better than most? I have not changed it to 4k to see if I get a difference at the end of the day, which I should do.

 

What kind of workloads are you doing though, once you get those 8 hours? I once got 8.5 hours on my 9560 (i7, @4K), but I was only doing the lightest of browsing and notetaking for an entire day of university. And that was with the screen brightness at the absolute lowest setting, undervolted, EPP 220. I literally couldn't have done more to conserve battery life.

 

light workloads and doc work.

 

Probably very similar to my workload then. So really, downscaling to 1080p does pretty much nothing for battery life.