XPS 15 9560 owners thread.

Sure there is a way, just do iunlocks mod

 

yeah, i guess its time
the constant throttling to 800MHz is just ridiculous

EDIT: will hold off the modding as i found that "undervolting" the GPU using afterburner stops the throttling completely! Was able to sustain that 1733MHz @ 58C and CPU 2793MHz @ 59C

 

If I have a 64bit OS, do I have to download the 64bit version of PotPlayer?

 

@denniscu ~ I've never used PotPlayer (have to use VLC for its recording features) but I have successfully used 32-bit VLC and IrfanView on my 64-bit system.

I only popped in to browse this thread to see if the 3840x2160 display has prompted any suicides yet, or will I be the first?

 

You don't have to, but there is no reason not to.

 

on my recent install of the nvidia drivers, i didnt get an option for the nvidia hdmi audio driver. so i dont have any audio over hdmi now. how do i install this driver?

 

Is it showing in the device manager?

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no it isnt. i got the intel display audio to work though by reverting to an older version of the intel display drivers. alhough... i may have been mixing up the dell with my sager - does the xps 15 really support nvidia hdmi audio or is it just intel display audio, can someone check and confirm?

 

Give DDU a go, download the latest driver from nvidia for the laptop to install after.
https://www.wagnardsoft.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=1095

 

Note to self and others: If you have a working part, do not let Dell touch it. My laptop came with a minor scratch on its screen, which Dell offered to change. After over a year of dragging it around conferences and collecting a couple of more "marks", I let Dell to change its screen as I was promised. The new screen flickers by going black and displaying normally like crazy. Whenever my laptop goes to sleep, it restarts and becomes unusable afterwards.

 

i already did that with the latest and some other older drivers and i still dont get the nvidia hdmi audio. could you please check if your xps15 does have the nvidia audio or if it does indeed use the intel hd audio instead? thanks

 

i already did that with the latest and some other older drivers and i still dont get the nvidia hdmi audio. could you please check if your xps15 does have the nvidia audio or if it does indeed use the intel hd audio instead? thanks

 

I have intel, nvidia and realtek showing.

 

thanks. i may have lost the nvidia audio when windows did the spring update. my nvidia processor seems fine otherwise with games and photoshop etc. you think i should have it checked by dell or is this likely a software thing? as it is, i can live with intel hdmi audio, but trying to make sure there isnt anything wrong with my hardware

 

To be fair you are better to backup what you need and install the latest win10 image if you have bugs, don't let Dell near it yet.

 

Is a good idea use the atest drivers for the Intel GPU
https://downloadcenter.intel.com/download/27847/Graphics-Intel-Graphics-Driver-for-Windows-10
Could someone say to me if there are problems?

 

On occasions, Intel HD video drivers straight from Intel did not work best with the 9550 with respect to certain specific bugs, and there were only specific working combinations of BIOS and Intel HD video drivers from Dell. My interpretation was that Dell does certain adjustments in the driver, and occasionally has issues following the advances at Intel. So use with caution.

 

Thanks for your advice and, even if I have the 9560, I think that I will not install it.

 

Am I the only one to have a feeling that the max brightness of the 4K for the 9560 (and 9570) varies from time to time, ie that it sometimes is dimmer than remember it to be? And no, no Adaptive Brightness in Windows enabled.

 

Might differ depending on whether the power adapter is connected or not

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Yes, but that mainly is regarding power settings and if you have different screen brightness setup for them. This is with the (available) brightness set to max.

 

Disabling dell premier color from starting sorted it for me.

 

Unfortunately I don't even have it installed (so I can't disable it that is).

 

Hello guys!
I wondering if the new Samsung 970 EVO can be installed on Dell XPS 9560.

 

Yes it can

 

Thank you for the reply man.
What do you think, should it run faster than the 960 Evo? We are talking about the 256gb version.

 

It wills core better than the 960 but you won't notice any difference.

 

Finally got the April update for windows 10. Lol. I disabled the previous one because it would always fail to install.. This one finally worked! But it reinstalled my nvda drivers and reset my custom refresh rate for my monitor... Kind of a bummer but glad I finally have an updated windows version.

Need to repaste the laptop but not enough time to do it with moving. Shouldn't take long at all. Just so much other stuff to do in life. Lol

 

I found myself in a tough spot. I edit video almost always on my main computer, but I haven't had a laptop for a very long time, and I just miss being able to sit around and surf the web, do some light work, and even some real light gaming (rts games etc) when I'm not at my desk working. So anyway, I just got a scratch n dent 9560 for like $1190 shipped with tax, 4k screen, i7, 512 gb ram. My similarly priced 9570 was around 2k shipped. I'm hoping I just found a way to give myself a laptop for a few years. I do premiere, but in my experience the extra 2 cores helps, but isn't a game changer, especially when working off a proxy workflow. Any thoughts on this move?

I also added 2 years of premium support so that brought me up to like 1350

While money isn't a huge factor, and this is a write off, i just was feeling tossed about spending too much since I don't see myself using this much outside coffee shops, airplanes, and messing around the house. I also have done some research, and while I will see a performance boost, for me it may not be something worth the price diff. So for now I am a 9560 owner lol. I think the first move will be to do what i was going to do on the 9570 , which is to replace the killer card with the intel one.

Anyway, I hope this unit isn't real blemished. we will see.

Edit: too add, I think I'm ok with some of the thermal issues if I can get it for this price with this screen. I think I was having a hard time dropping 2k on the 256gb model and then having to worry about it. I am pretty good with opening up things so I could repaste also down the line.

 

The difference between the 7700HQ and the 8750H is like 25% in the case of Premiere Pro. Yes it would've been an upgrade, but it's not going to be an earth shattering upgrade (unless you are exporting really long videos). The GPU helps with the encoding a fair bit. Depending on what kind of footage you are using, you may not even have to resort to proxy files (I mean, you are not going to be editing native RED files on this laptop regardless of which version you choose). 1080p files edit easily, and even 4K editing works fairly well, though it might bog down a bit when adding a ton of effects.

Honestly, for half the price, I think the 9560 is a better deal. Especially if you do not plan to work solely on the laptop.

 

Thanks for the fast feedback. I was debating if the warranty is worth it, but i figure this is a nice 2 year solution to my mobile computing, so getting that easier coverage seems OK. heres to hoping this is one of those barely noticeable scratch and dents tho lol.

 

Hah I say go for the 9560 as well. If it was your main computer I would spring for the 9570, but since it's your away computer the 9560 will work great.

I have had a ton of outlet laptops and I've only had a scratch or dent on 2 of them (out of 20+).

 

Some (but not all) of the outlet 9560 units are very cheap now PLUS 17% coupon off that price (there is a coupon on the same US outlet site). This is the screaming deal for most people.

For the 9570 I think Intel did a decent refresh considering this is an older CPU; 2 extra cores, improved performance, and improved undervolting. But I don't think the cooling capacity and power output in the 9570 has increased radically, so real-world performance increase will not be staggering for most people. It also has minor GPU upgrade. For the few that "need" the extra cores and ARE SURE they can prevent throttling, or for those who need the extra x4 lanes with TB, this may be the better performance choice.

 

Well I guess I'm going to give it a go. Dell shipped that thing out in like 2 hours.

 

Oh wow, now that's a shock lol

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A good shock

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I have a hard time deciding between the Dell XPS (9560, FHD) and the Thinkpad T580 (UHD).
Both have great displays, nice fingerprint readers etc.
I do have both models in front of me at the moment.

I'm just worried about the long-time performance of the Dell. I've read so many horror stories about it online.

How often did you have to send your model in for repairs?
How long did it last?

Personally I just trust Lenovo (at least the Thinkpad T-series) more.
My Thinkpad T510 has lasted for 8 years and it's still running okay.

 

I've owned 3 XPS laptops in recent years.

The first was a Studio XPS with the first generation Core i7 quad core processor. I bought that laptop in 2009. There were no glitches or issues with the laptop, and I still use it today, 9 years later without any issues whatever.

A couple of years ago, I bought an XPS 1550. I used it with no issues whatever until I fried the mother board by dropping a cup of coffee on the keyboard.

I've now had my XPS 1560 for 7 or 8 months. It has also operated flawlessly since the day I got it.

I should point out, though, that I avoid making rash hardware changes, and I'm very cautious about installing questionable software, drivers, etc.

 

The moment that Dell replaces you screen again, but now the touch screen is not working and tech support said that they escalated my case to their "legal team".

 

Just an update on a scratch and dent I got. Scratch is literally a real thin scratch on the outside top that you would only see if you tried to look. So win on that! Otherwise going very well, only issue is some very minor backlight bleed on the 4k dispkay. It's on the bottom and very slight. I think since I did decent so far in the lottery with this I may just roll with it. Has anyone ever complained to dell and got some cash back? Thanks for the input, enjoying so far, but will put it through the motions in the coming week.

 

I had a very minor dent / scratch in the carbon fibre deck. You honestly can't see it unless light shines on it from a very specific angle. Still, I made a couple of photo's and sent them to Dell. Got a 10% cashback for it. It was the Dutch Dell support though, so YMMV.

 

Well I actually bought a "scratch and dent" refurb. So its expected, was so minor tho would do it again to save the extra 100$

 

Hello guys, finally scored me xps 15 9560 refurb from dell outlet deals.

Question, does this laptop support 2666 sodimms?

i know it comes with 2400 from factory,mine only has 8gb. i think i'm either goign for 12gb and keep it 2400 or get 2 x 8gb 2666 if supported

 

No it doesn't. You can use the 2666 either 2800 sodimms but they will run at 2400.

 

Sure? I think it may depend on the specific model and latencies (autonegotiation, nothing manual to set). I recall even the 9550 worked with certain g.skill 2666 ram at 2666. Check Userbenchmark results with better RAM scores.
http://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/4800163
http://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/2923661
http://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/3896170
But I think there are better ways of spending $$ than for "performance" ram. The real-life advantage is less than a percent except in very specific benchmarks and tasks.

 

I think it depends by the CPU you have. According to this the i7-7700HQ (the top cpu in the configurator) can manage DDR3 at 2133 and DDR4 at 2400

 

I guess these are official numbers while the actual ones may sometimes be higher. Also, faster ram may be able to run at a lower clock with a lower CAS latency for a better performance (you actually don't gain so much by speeding up the clock but having to increase the latency because the response time of the ram is actually the same). And there are also a few other latencies. Once upon a time we could set the clocks and latencies in BIOS manually, and then run memtest and a few others for a few hours to see what max settings still result in reliable performance. In XPS BIOS these parameters are not accessible, they are set automatically and you can just observe what was applied with CPU-Z or such. Some folks have reported certain brands of 2666 DDR4 in both i7 9550 and 9560 run at 2666, while others would revert to 2400. I don't recall anyone report 2800 ram to run at 2800 or 2666.
But as already said the overall performance gain tends to be small except in very specific tasks. With XPS, it pays off *MUCH* more to spend the time and $$ tweaking the cooling.

 

Interesting, thank you!

 

well, i didn't buy the xps 15 for bang for the buck, there are much better choices than the xps line if i wanted a 7700hq + gtx 1050. Build quality was a top priority along with not looking like a spaceship for a 9 year old.

if i'm going to buy ram for this, i might as well pay a little extra to get the fastest possible ram. i just need to make sure the motherboard supports speeds higher than 2400mhz before i buy it.

otherwise i'm going to hunt for low cas latency 2400mhz sticks, perhaps cas 15 will do.

 

i'm just in pursuit of speed, however small the gains are for the money.

honestly, almost no one needs an i7 7700hq or an nvme drive. a quad core i5 is more than enough along with a sata ssd.

but who cares?

i just want to get the most of out my xps, money be damned.

i will be repasting with kryonaut and then adding thermal pads into the VRMs and on the heatsink where the cpu and gpu are.

already undervolted the cpu to -0.120mv, i gain about 5-7 degrees compared to stock. but the key thing was maintaining longer period of boost.

after about an hour of prime95, the cpu consistently stayed at a multiplier of 32 vs 27-28 on stock voltage. it would do x 34 for short periods.

temp wasn't very dramatic, only about 5 degrees cooler. hopefully repasting and adding some thermal pads in the VRMs will help.

it sux that every laptop i've had in the past 5 years i had to repaste the damn TIM. i have yet to see a good application of thermal paste in any of the laptops i've owned so far.