XPS 15 9570 Owners Thread

No, you shouldn't expect updated graphics card. The new laptop graphics card should hit around December, but entry GPU like GTX 1050 ~ 1050ti will take another 1 year to release as far as I know.

 

Well I've got good news and bad.

The good news is I'll be back on the XPS bandwagon on Tuesday.
The bad news is it's just a 9560 with an i5 because it was cheap (like the same price I can sell my 2015 Lenovo X1 Carbon for).
Oh well at least it'll get me back into a quadcore with dedicated graphics and the wife won't end me since we just bought the new truck.

 

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Any chance of a sneaky pic of the truck? My wife wants us to move to Canada and buy a Raptor

 

LOL well sadly it's no Raptor, I'd sure love to have one but it's a tad out of my price range, lol. Funny because the wife and I are considering moving to Montana for my residency. Also you can't tell from the pic angle but it's a duramax. So far I totally love it. Went on a 400 mile road trip in the mountains with a good bit of city driving and got 27.4 mpg hand calculated. Even had ~1/4 of a tank left.

Here's a pic:

 

Absolutely love that, thanks, awesome piece of kit and I'd love to own something like that. We currently trundle about in an old Toyota Rav4 as we have 2 dogs and they wreck everything, and love to swim so sand gets everywhere!

 

I don't get how that works!? Wouldn't the panel still require the same amount of power, since the screen itself still has the physical pixel density of a 4k display? Or does the iGP use a lot more power while driving a 4K display?

 

I've always assumed it was an old wives' tale that lowering a 4k res to 1080 would make it use less battery.

 

I would think that there are some truth in it. Force the resolution to FHD alleviate the GPU burden. However the screen itself probably still consumes the same amount of power. So overall it should be less than native UHD but higher than native FHD.

 

Yeah my reasoning is that phone manufacturers use lower resolutions (samsung and LG both) to save battery power, so it should have an effect for laptops as well to a degree.

 

Two weeks since I got the laptop. Pretty happy with it so far. Got the i7/8GB/256GB version. Upgraded RAM (4GB+16GB) and SSD (1TB), replaced the wireless card (Intel 9260). Added some thermal pad for VRM. No repaste work. Did a clean install of Windows.

No major screen bleeding (not to a degree that interferes my daily use). No perceptible coil whine.

Noticed some APPCRASH events caused by Dell supportAssistant. Removed it and all good.

Handles everything from productivity to development software with ease. I don't play much of game, at least not on my laptop.

General stability is good. I experienced one case that the laptop drained the battery during modern standby. Switched to S3 later so not sure how often it would happen. In S3 I had a few cases that screen flicker after wake up, restart fixed the problem. I have not yet experienced any software crash (without a good reason). Booting into windows are always fast and smooth.

Look and feel are excellent. I mean, when you are willing to pay the premium, part of it goes to the industrial design. If you are all after the price/performance ratio, there are many better options around. For anything heavy weight, I would always go back to my faithful desktop which I assembled years ago (BTW I got 32GB DDR4 at $115. Those good old days ...).

 

I have these two issues on the new unit I got, as same as on the old one. Anyone else has these issues? Please, could owners of the 9570 check too in their Reliability Monitor of Windows?

Intel Audio Service crash like every 2-3 hours or several times per Windows up time. And Mostly every time I boot Windows, it has Windows didn't properly shut down las time. Even though it seems to, I normally use shutdown every time I close the laptop, and it shuts down and powers off normally.

Look and feel of the 9570 is just really bad. It looks decent, but the moment you use it, it gets dirty in 10 seconds. The material on the top is just terrible. And the coil whine is unacceptable. The keyboard doesn't feel premium too, it makes weird clicking/resistance sometimes on some keys.

I'm also really unhappy with the back bleed on the 4k screen, especially this large spot on the left.

 

I tend to agree with what he says.

 

I got the same issues although I wouldn't have known it since it appears to shutdown fine.

 

Have you tried to install the latest intel video (audio) driver?

 

I wish laptop reviewers were half as harsh with the ****ing macbooks are they are with the XPS 15. Watching Austin Evans do a "comparison" with 2 7th-gen PC laptops against 8th-gen macbook and the thing is scoring under 1000 points in CB multi, jesus christ.

 

Regarding “Windows did’nt shut down properly last time”, try turn off fast startup mode from power options, it worked for me

 

But then all the apple idiots would be sad. You can't trash talk the almighty apple. Their devices are perfect and if you disagree it's just because you don't know what you're talking about.

 

Well the new MacBooks finally have some decent specs so props there. But it is a terrible value and has some second-tier engineering . . .

 

Hi there! I'm lucky owner (well... more or less) of the XPS 15 notebook (i7 16GB 512GB UHD option). As I need quite good either RAM or SSD drive, I've bought 2 sticks of 16GB HyperX Impact RAM and Samsung 970 1TB EVO with the notebook... But, as you know, Dell doesn't like some kind of memory sticks and now I have a problem, because for some reasons I can't return them to the shop... Is there possiblity that Dell developers will be so kind and update BIOS to enable all kind of memory sticks to work with our XPS? Do you have any past experiences with similiar situations? (I read XPS 9550 and 9560 had some issues with SSD right after releases but propably have been fixed by BIOS updates).

 

I have had good luck with HyperX 32GB RAM on several 9550 and 9560 machines. I purchased specific RAM model number based on posts from others that successfully installed the memory in my XPS models. I think I saw posts here, on Amazon, and on Newegg.

Please post your model number which failed to work for the benefit of others here.

Also, Dell engineers do not seem to visit these forums. Or if they do, they just ignore the posts.

 

Will post tomorrow, I don't have it at hand now but based on few posts I assume every model of HyperX RAM doesn't work with XPS 9570.

I wonder... should I have hope that Dell engineers will fix BIOS and improve HyperX RAM compability or should I bother with reselling them? It's my first Dell machine so I don't know what expect from a Dell customer service...

 

hahaha

 

In case you're not picking up with @pressing is putting down, they will likely never ever fix RAM compatibility on the 9570. I mean hell they can't even figure out how to cool the VRM on the third iteration. You're better off returning or selling that ram and getting something that is known to work.

 

Do you have a link to that? I am not aware of an "Intel audio driver". This is really weird, I dont even know what this Intel Audio Service does or what it is good for. I actually disabled the service and since then no more crash reports, and I dont see anything not working so far with audio. Is it maybe for HDMI audio or something? I cant find anything via Google too, what this service does. And I dont know, where it comes from. If it is installed with the GPU driver, or the Realtek package (I have updated that one btw and that didnt fix this issue).

 

Hi all. I've been tossing up options for possible laptops and the 9570 XPS is one I'm considering. I've made a post in the "what should I buy" thread to get some more opinions a while back. I'm posting in here as I figured questions about this specific model would be best suited here.

Mostly looking at the i5/1050/FHD/97whr version. Is an option here in Australia that's within budget, would only need me to add another 8gb stick of ram and to replace the Killer card with an Intel one.

Would be using it for photo editing (Lightroom), game dev work (Unity, UE4, Maya, Adobe Suite). Considered it due to the nicer screen for photos, and the longer battery life for web browsing. (From the NBC review)

Main concerns are thermal issues I could encounter when using it for work or playing games (Civ V & VI, Dirt Rally as a couple of more demanding examples). I mostly wanna know if anyone has put their XPS 15 through similar usage and if so, what their experience was. That'd be helpful. Thanks. Hope a post like this is fine in this thread. Figured it'd be better than starting a new one.

 

If you get getting i5/1050/FHD/97 you have literally no reason to buy the 9570 -- just get a 9560 refurb for the same price with the i7. You will need to pad the VRMs, though.

 

It's a good idea, refurb 4Ks are a similar price. The older FHD model is a good bit cheaper.

From what I read, the new FHD screen is quicker than the old 4k. I tried the older 4k models in stores and moving the mouse around the desktop left a noticeable trail (more so than IPS desktop screens I have), same deal for other moving elements. I heard the older FHD was slower than that too That was an appeal of the newer models. Although the difference could be really small.

Will revisit the older 4k model and see if I'm just being too fussy about the screen response time (might go to other stores in case it was just an issue with that specific device). I've never been against clearance/refurb options. Thanks for the reminder. I checked Dell's outlet a week ago and nothing showed up in the XPS range. I looked after you replied and suddenly XPS 15 options are there.

I'd consider other configurations but in the 9570, if I wanted the new i7 and 1050ti in it with the FHD display, the only option has the smaller battery. In Australia, looking at all configurations, there's no choice there.

Thanks for the response.

 

okay guys,

Getting my xps 9570 delivered in 2 days. I'm going to undervolt, repaste with kryonaut and make the simple thermal pad stack on the vrm's with arctic pads 4-5 stacks of 1mm pads - might do the mini heat sinks on the vrm's instead, if you guys strongly recommend it, but i wont be making the air tunnel iunlock does, to get air from fans to vrm zone, so the heat sinks might not be the best way to go for me.

I offer you two options for me to share benchmarks:

Option 1. I do mods right out of the box and run benchmarks in the beginning of august 3-5'th or something like that.

Option 2. i wait with mods, and share stock benchmarks around 3-5'th august, and do mods around 28-30'th august before i can make updated benchmarks.

Also note, that if you guys want option two, the benchmarks in the beginning of august will be in tropical climate, and the benchmarks in end of august will be in a more moderate climate.

So if you guys want benchmarks on repaste, undervolt, and simple pad-stack on vrm's, as quick as possible i can go option 1, but if you prefer before-after, some patience will be needed.

8750h, FHD, 500 ssd, 16 ram, 1050 ti, 97 whr batteri, changing to 9260 wifi card

Also let me know what kind of benchmarks you want me to run.

 

There's no difference in response times between the last 3 years in fhd or uhd. Same panel, different backlight. I have never minded playing games on it

 

Whelp, once again these forums left me perplexed as what to do. I realize that most people that come here are the min/max types who are coming to seek solutions so the casual user and people who feel things are fine are under represented.

I just picked up an open box XPS 9575 2 in 1 at Best Buy over the weekend to try it out since they didn't have XPS 15s in stock. Its a 4k model so both trying that out, getting comfortable with dells (I feel the Inspirons I've bought for my mother to use have been pieces of crap within months of her starting to use them with how slow they are.

After a couple days with the 9575 I'm getting more used to the very low profile keyboard and haven't been bothered by any noises and fans. I really have no need for the 2 in 1 aspect except potentially if I just wanted to use it in studio mode for some Netflix watching.

The laptop would be my work travel laptop (frequent flying and 4 day trips) as well as maybe a play a game in bed sort of thing. I have a desktop gaming machine, but I'd rather do basic games in bed with a pad than sit at a desk. We're talking Overwatch and WoW. Ideally the laptop would let me leave my work Dell Latitude at home and I could do everything I need with my personal laptop. So light productivity (web based work tools, light Word and Excel) and casual gaming.

I had planned to return the 9575 to get a 1080p XPS 15. I don't see me using tablet mode and I think I'd do better with longer battery life for working in cafes. But now you all have me freaked about thermals and I can't tell if its ever something that would ever bother me being a casual player. I initially looked at the MSI but the build quality was terrible and I couldn't stand that even the weight of my palms on the keyboard typing made creaking noises. The QC issues with the 15X make me nervous to order online with trickier returns. Build wise I'm tempted to go Razer 15 1060, but all I keep hearing is how their QC is bad also.

I don't really need a powerful GPU in my laptop with what I do. if I ever wanted more I'd get an eGPU, but honestly my desktop would do it better. I just want something that won't break my back while running in airports and won't break my laptop from lugging it around everywhere.

 

Any improvement in thermal with 1.2.2 BIOS?

 

You should run benchmarks stock & modded at the same time in similar conditions. That allows you to troubleshoot and compare results to those of others (e.g. see mod thread by @custom90gt .)

Without doing it with some level of discipline, how would you know if your repaste is lousy? Or if your heatsink is bent? ...

 

Hey guys, eagerly reading through 68 pages searching for positive notes on the (for me just arrived) 9570. I ordered the 4k 512GB 16GB version, knowing I had some work to do on the thermals and the Killer WiFi-card. My copy arrived a couple days ago and I am happy to say that I have a copy without any ghosting, coil wine or backlight bleed.

When I opened the case i saw that my Toshiba 512GB nvme drive had already a thermal pad on it. I replaced it, along with padding the RAM and VRM with the Fujipoly extreme thermal pads (bought here https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00ZSJQQBU/ref=od_aui_detailpages00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 ). I also changed the Killer for an Intel 9260.

I did some benchmarks (3Dmark, PCmark, Unigine Heaven) before the 'mods', am now testing it with the 'new' thermal pads. Am planning to undervolt and repaste with grizzly kryonaut. My goal is to make the same table as @custom90gt and the guy from Germany.

Keep you posted!

 

The 9570 has more upgradability, battery, and performance, so I'd go for it.

 

Eh I picked up a 9560 on the outlet for close to $680, if you want to save money I'd look there. Either one is going to be reliable and unless you're playing games or rendering/doing something else intensive it'll be just fine.

 

Looks like the Macbook i9's also throttle:

 

I don't know of a macbook pro that hasn't throttled though. You can't criticize the all mighty Apple.

 

Oh really? I wasn't aware of the previous models. I was waiting for this to be released to see how they adjusted the cooling in the i9 version..not great i guess.

 

Hah every Macbook pro I've owned (well wife insisted on owning) or used or fixed has throttled.

 

Fantastic! haha

 

I've devised a simple scheme to significantly improve cooling in Apple laptops; two big holes

http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/extreme-thermal-mods-2007-macbook-pro-3-1.810471/

 

I have the following issue with an Intel 9260 card in the XPD 9570, that I cant send any files over the network. The copy process breaks down after 1-2 seconds and then gives me an unexpected network error after a while. Down speed works normally with about 33MB/s. Info shows 866mbit and full green bars. Anyone an idea what could be the cause of this? Might it be that aux and main still have to be flipped?

 

I was thinking to swap out the 250GB SK Hynix PC401 NVME SSD that came with my XPS 15 9570 FHD as I'd like a bigger SSD.

I thought about putting in a 1TB SSD, but the Samsung 960 nvme is around $520 CAD and a bit out of my budget.

I can however get a WD Blue 1TB SSD for half that, but it's not an nvme.

I've read that the nvme drives are 5x faster, but not sure if this applies to read/write speeds of the SK Hynix as well.

I will use the laptop for general stuff (writing, browsing) as well as editing (HD and some 4k using Davinci Resolve).

Am I going to regret swapping out the faster drive in day to day use? I'm coming from an 2011 MBP so anything feels zippy next to that.

THanks!​

 

For general stuff there should be no noticeable difference between SATA and NVMe. For 4K editing there may be some difference, though I doubt anything major.

I got a HP EX920 1TB NVMe @ $249. Regular SATA Drive would be close to $200.

Bitlocker off I got read speed ~2800 MB/s and write ~1600 MB/s. Regular SATA should be close to 500 MB/s read/write.

 

Thanks for your input.

 

Sent the XPS 15 9570 back to Dell. It was past 30 days on the invoice but convinced them on the basis that I did not have the machine for a total of 30 days. Too many finishing issues for a laptop of this price range, including the left touchpad-palmrest boundary which was quite rough and uneven, almost as if the touchpad had been jammed in forcibly. At least the screen bezel was glued properly, as improperly sealed bezels was a too frequent an issue on the 9560s that I had tried out. Aspects like the mediocre speaker quality seem inherent to the XPS line nowadays.

 

Is there an option for multiple SSD/SSHD storage in 9570 that includes a 57Whr battery? I want to get the SSHD option with 8 gb RAM and 1080p non-touch display.

Is the SSD to be placed in the WWAN slot? If so what is the form-factor and what type of SSD should I get?

 

Was going to order the i9/32GB/1Tb ssd/4k model, but wondering if I can just as.well get the i7/16GB/512GB SSD/4k
Need this as an allround laptop and now Im starting to wonder if their really that much of a performance increase going to the i9.
Thoughts?

 

Answered this for you on the 'Swap out SSD' post you made.