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    XPS 15 R2 (L502) Temps Only thread please.....

    Discussion in 'Dell XPS and Studio XPS' started by pinsb, Mar 15, 2011.

  1. madmattd

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    That's getting a bit too warm, and that is why your system is throttling. You should not pass 80-90C really on either GPU or CPU...

    40s are right on for idle/low load temps on the CPU. 70C is decent under load, but they typically get warmer, I don't know if Dues Ex maxes things effectively or not.

    As for the monitoring gadgets, this is a known problem, they draw enough CPU power to keep things from throttling properly and cause a lot of fan spool-ups/downs. Core Temp seems to cause no problems.
     
  2. omgi0wn

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    Well would it harm the components of my system if it is getting that hot? Like the hard drive and motherboard?
     
  3. concat

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    Your laptop has a shutdown temperature which is below what would normally be damaging. 96C shouldn't harm your laptop, but it's still too high and you might want to research some solutions.... like cleaning your fan ports with compressed air and a vacuum.

    If you're really worried, some temp monitoring programs have overheat protection options. For example, you can configure it to Hibernate should it reach 100C, give you warnings at 95C etc etc. I haven't mucked about with GPU monitoring programs, but for CPU these options are available. Your GPU is throttling as a way of protecting itself, by the way.

    Finally, you could underclock the GPU and that will reduce temps... but it will also affect performance.
     
  4. omgi0wn

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    I have tried underclocking it and it still doesn't help entirely, maybe lowers the temps 2-3 degrees but eventually it may reach 96. However, it NEVER goes above that, 96 is the highest it will get.
     
  5. concat

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    Have you ever cleaned out all the dust and fluff that accumulates in the cooling system?

    If I had those temps I would even open up the case and do a thorough cleaning job.
     
  6. livinsaint

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    Hey...I just got my laptop today...works pretty smooth till now and really nice keyboard....and the build quality too...my specs are i72630qm and NVIDIA 525 gfx card...(guess thats enough for my question)...
    Well the issue is that my cpu is running hotter than usual...though ideal temps are fine but these reading suddenly shoot to early seventies without any intensive tasks....also I played Crysis Warhead for around half an hour and the cpu temps shot upto a stable 96c.....but the gpu at that time had a max reading of only 84c (which I suppose is acceptable)...and also gpu idles at 47c and max at 50c without any gpu intensive task...
    So isnt this too hot even for a 2nd gen intel i7....?
    Should I really be bothered...?
     
  7. concat

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    96 C is too high for a brand new laptop... My XPS 15, i7-2630QM, 540m, has only ever got as high as mid/high 70's when gaming. On idle, 50 max (and it was like 30C in my house that day). Never gone any higher.

    Are you blocking the air intake? Like maybe you’re playing with it on your lap, or on carpet or something?

    Is the exhaust hot and blowing a lot of air?

    Have you fiddled with any settings? Like turning off Turbo Boost? (set max Processor speed to 99% on balanced profile)
     
  8. Sam_A_1992

    Sam_A_1992 Notebook Evangelist

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    96c on the gpu is too high, even for a cpu. If your getting temps above 90c clean out the vents and make sure your not blocking any and havent changed any settings. If your still going above 90 call dell. For comparison my cpu has never gone higher than 89c and gpu hasnt gone higher than 77c under load while overclocking.
     
  9. livinsaint

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    Well I changed the max processor state to 99% in the advanced power settings and played half an hour of Crysis @1366X768 and all settings to mainstream...cpu maxed at 79c and gpu at 73c....further the ideal temps were around low 50s for cpu and even reached 35c and gpu was around high 40s...
    So is this the solution..?? cause I think its just a temporary fix...and Sam its a brand new laptop so I dont believe there is any need of cleaning the vent...isnt it? I am really tired of this overheating issues as I am coming from SXPS 1645...really want a permanent fix without the hassle of a repasting job...
    But one thing I do want to mention that from outside its one of the coldest notebooks I have seen even at high temps...(exception being touchpad and left palmrest, just a tad hot)...
    I just don't want to shorten the life duration of my notebook...
     
  10. Sam_A_1992

    Sam_A_1992 Notebook Evangelist

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    Those temps are more normal so at 100% your getting in the 90's?
    And my l702x is only a few months old but every week i hoover the vents. So if you start early it'll save them getting blocked up.
     
  11. Alvord12

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    That temperature is inside the CPU, where the magic happens. It's bound to get hot. Shutdown temperature is around 104C for the CPU. Your laptop seems to be fine, mine goes up to 89C while playing Deus EX. Stop worrying too much and enjoy your games! :D
     
  12. livinsaint

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    Trust me that's what I wanna do...enjoy my new laptop but as I had stated earlier too that I am from a troubled SXPS 1645...I am just a bit too finicky about temps...I just don't want to realize a few months later that I have baked my MoBo, CPU or GPU....Plus I don't want my laptop to throttle too...which btw brings me to my next doubt...
    does it not throttle at any point of time like the cpu or gpu in 1645..???does it just shut down on its own at the TJ point...??? cause yesterday I did not notice any lag in the game or any stuttering for that matter, at all in the game, even at 96c...
     
  13. Alvord12

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    No, I have yet to experience any throttling on the CPU. As long as the air flow around the machine is good, I wouldn't be too worried.
    It will probably shut itself on reaching the Max Tj.
     
  14. JMSnowy

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    my 2720qm reached 91 degrees during the dell stress test on 1 core, the others stayed around 89...i was using cpuid to monitor it.
     
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  17. DakkonA

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    Not necessarily. The CPU actively manages the speed of the processor to stay under Tjunc. If it was throttling the processor below the stated speed (not TurboBoost speed), then you definitely have a problem.
     
  18. concat

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    Seems high to me.

    I've used Throttlestop to force turbo boost on. Was getting about 2.7 GHz consistently in the Witcher 2, and it only got up 85 max (2630QM). That's with the GPU OC'd as well. Maybe it doesn't use all the Cores and MW2 does?
     
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  20. fakelogin

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    Hey i've got a L502X (core i7-2630qm) and all cores are at 100C after doing pretty much anything... moving large amounts of files over a network, or playing portal 2 for 15 mins, or watching a movie for 2 hours. all result in 100C cores. I'm not using any specialized software, just the reading from coretemp. Laptop fan is continually on when the temperature is like this as well. fyi this xps15 is 1 month old.

    is this normal? Thanks for the help guys.
     
  21. mikeybc

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    I'd double check your temps using CPUID, never had my temp leave the 60's while watching a movie or streaming Netflix or with Photoshop. I had 1 core hit 90'or 91 on the Dell CPU stress test. Make sure you're on a hard surface and not blocking the fans. Your 100 degree temps are definaltly not normal.
     
  22. computress

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    I don't have any major fan issues the report--I do notice that the fan area itself can get pretty warm. I actually had a question. Would any of you guys recommend getting a cooling pad as a general matter? I've never used one for a laptop, but I've never had a laptop with a core i7 processor before.

    Most of the time I use my laptop on a desk so it gets good ventilation--I was just wondering if a cooling pad is still advisable.

    Thanks a lot
     
  23. fakelogin

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    As irony would have it, right after i posted my temperatures have never gone above 60C. Even after games, uptime for many hours, file transfers etc. i did get a CPUID program as well.

    I keep the computer elevated at all times on a laptop stand, but the bottom is never really warm. the hottest part is the ventilation on the left side. this area i leave clear

    Thanks for the reply
     
  24. AlgumaPessoa

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    config: i5 2430M, 525M

    after 1 hour of Deus EX (max proc at 99%):

    Core 1: 88C
    Core 2: 88C
    GPU: 76C

    just one detail: my room temp was at 30c this day.
     
  25. Izno

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    Running Prime and Furmark
    Room Temp: 22

    Core0: 94
    Core1: 97
    Core2: 94
    Core3: 91
    Package: 98
    GPU: 94

    I was also suffering from this stutter problem earlier that I got rid of when I removed McFee antivirus: Dell xps L502x Stutter Problem - YouTube

    Just ran 3dmark06 and scored 7229 with the newest 301.24 NVIDIA drivers, and stock clocks on everything. Seems a bit low, no? Here is the result: http://3dmark.com/3dm06/16606640

    I get a lot of crashed while playing Starcraft2 and the only way to recover is to boot using the power button. Called Dell today and sending in the computer for a motherboard, fan and heat sink swap. Lets pray everything goes smooth. They will send me a box that I use to ship it with and it should take 7-10 days.
     
  26. hanming

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    @Izno
    I think you should demand on-site services since that is what you paid for. And, on-site service is very quick so you don't need to wait for 7-10 days. Mine usually done in 5 days at the worst case. I had horrible experience with sending in my laptop.
     
  27. Izno

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    I thought I paid for on-site service but apparently I did not. I tried everything and even talked to the manager but they just brushed it off like it is nothing. Not buying Dell every again unless this service goes flawless and I get back a working computer without any problems.
     
  28. Izno

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    Ok so an update on my problems. I send the computer to the depo and they changed the motherboard and fan and the problem actually got worse in games. I have had 100% crashes in Starcraft 2 and Black Ops that I tried but managed to play Dota2 for 5h straight without a crash. So I was on the phone and Dell made me do a factory reset and reinstall the newest drivers, but the problem still continues. The interesting part is that stress tests and 3dmark06 does not crash the computer but games do. The CPU and Motherboard still goes up to 95 degrees in stress tests or playing a game and streaming with xsplit.

    The interesting part is that the computer does not crash if I unplug it from the wall and play on battery power. At least not the one time I tried after reading from another user that this must help.

    I have an depo warranty and they wanted me to send the computer in for another motherboard replacement but I refused. I managed to talk to a manager and they will send a technician to my place to replace a second time the motherboard, fan and heat sink. I really pray that guy will be good and the problem will disappear. I will keep you guys updated.
     
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