XPS 15 R2 (L502) Temps Only thread please.....

how do get the gpu temp on HWmonitor? its not showing it on mine comp

 

go into the optimus control panel, and add it to the app-specific "Use nVidia High-Performance Graphics Hardware" list.

 

i turned core parking off for perf reasons -- will re-enabling it help with heat (assuming it will be harder to fire up turboboost on multiple cores)?

 

As XPS 15's seem to now be getting delivered in numbers any chance of some more temps being added to this thread please?

 

Yep, the L502x is MUCH hotter than my SXPS 1645. Confirmed.
Just browsing, etc, the CPU is at least 10 degrees hotter and the GPU about 8 degrees hotter.

 

go into the optimus control panel, and add it to the app-specific "Use nVidia High-Performance Graphics Hardware" list.

How do I bring up the optimus control panel?

 

Any chance of some actual numbers under load with what frequency the machine is then running at?

If you can run under load for say 10 minutes and watch what the frequency does that would be great.

I'm trying to get enough data to see if the high temps are forcing some laptops to step back their processor frequency and the more data we can collect the more reliable the interpretation.

 

Installed CPUID Hardware Monitor, but still don't know how to get my GEForce to display.

 

just played bc 2 my cpu hit 95. Damn much hotter than xps 1645 BUT ZERO throttling.

 

I got a replacement for my throttling SXPS M1640. I insisted on an Alienware. I told them I didn't want an XPS model, I wanted to move away from XPS and I would never buy one again. I have been extremely happy with my AW.

Even though these temps haven't yet affected performance, reading this thread makes me very glad that I refused an XPS replacement.

 

What is the point of your post?

 

Playing crysis 2 at 1080p for 1 hour, temps reach high 80s on the cpus and about 80 on the 525M (oc'ed to 666/966).

 

well as long as it doesn't throttle,
and the palmrests aren't too hot to handle,
then you don't really have a problem!

stop worrying yourself =P

 

Anyone have info about undervolting the L502 ? Sounds like it no one has succeeded so far from what I've read online. Here's to hoping.

 

I see now that XPS its a little hot :S i wanna buy one XPS 15 but i5, do you now about the i5 temperatues?

 

I just did some temperature analysis with HWiNFO32 (btw, for some reason this program, while running, screws with the Intel TurboBoost monitor, causing it to show odd numbers).

I ran Prime95 (In-place FFTs, 4 threads) for about 15 min, let the processor cool, and then ran Prime95 again + Furmark (Burn-in) for another 15 min. All this was on AC power with the laptop in my lap.

With Prime95 running full bore, the processor never got above 90 degrees C and maintained a consistent TurboBoost speeds of 2.8-3.2 GHz, fluctuating with the task load.

(EDIT: When I stopped Prime95, the temperatures rapidly decreased back to idle temperatures.)

When I then loaded both Prime95 and Furmark (540M with stock clocks), the processor started to heat up past 90 deg C, with TurboBoost functioning as before. When the temperature closed on 100, TurboBoost shut off leaving the cores running at the rated speed, and they cooled off to below ~85 deg C, where TurboBoost would turn on again briefly, but because temps shot immediately back up to 95 degrees, it shut off again.

Let's reiterate this: Temperatures are almost a non-issue with Sandy Bridge and the L502x.

The thermal design of the XPS 15 is extremely good. Despite component temperatures of near 100 degrees C, the ambient case temperature never rose above 30, the laptop probably never got hotter than body temperature, and I had it safely on my lap, palms resting on it, for the entire time.

The dual-core 2620M processor also never dips below its rated clock speed even at the highest of loads.

See attached image for sensor log graphs. The last CPU line in the legand goes with the secondary axis indicating fan speeds. Power is Watts.

 

My recently bought XPS 15 L502, according to HW monitor also goes into the high 90s if pushed, then drops into the mid 40s when idle. The fan on the side does push out hot air, but the laptop exterior does remain at room temperature. Regardless, I'm still concerned about the high load temps. Never had a processor run this hot. Good thing it comes with a 2 year warranty. Oh and I'm using the i7 2720

 

No more posts ???

 

Hello everybody!
I use my Dell XPS l502x for about one month and it is a wonderful laptop for me (I had before HP Pavilion and Toshiba Satellite). But the only one problem which I am worry about is a high temperature. During my monitoring (with Open HardWare Monitor) I fixed the following highest temperatures:

CPU Core #1 96
CPU Core #2 94
GPU Core 91
HDD 62

That's my summary, I didn't have all these temperatures in one time. But the highest indexes were in the games like Crysis I, NFS Hot Persuit and Mass Effect I. And in the games I often had a problem with nvlddmkm.sys, and lags, and some times PC stoped responding and I had to push power off button and restart it manualy

Here are temperatures after full AIDA stress-test:
CPU Core #1 83
CPU Core #2 82
GPU Core 60
HDD 59

I saw that nobody had such temperature of HDD, is this problem only mine?
And does anybody know answer for my question: I am afraid that shutting down PC with power off button (when PC stoped responding) damages HDD, is it true or it doesn't matter?

Thank you very much and sorry for my English

My config:
Dell XPS l502x 15.6" (1366x768) WLED / Intel Core i5-2410M (2.3 GHz) / RAM 4 GB / HDD 640 GB / NVIDIA GeForce GT 540M, 2 GB / DVD±RW / LAN / Wi-Fi / Bluetooth 3.0 /

 

I play team fortress 2 for only 20 minutes and t200 temperature is 95 celcius.
and first time my notebook reset.and i use my notebook in cool desk.
I suspect the technican use low quality thermal paste when opened my laptop to change my fan and speaker.Is there any chance that they setup not original fan?And when he did new thermal paste he scrape the old one .Is it the problem scraping?I want your help people please share your experince.
this notebook disappoint me because of these problems, first ac-dc cable problem they change it problem fix then fan click voice problem and right speaker buzz they change my fan its ok no more click ,speaker buzz nothing change.After they open my notebook and my notebook celcuis increase 10 celcius more Before dell service i see maximum 85 celcius in portal 2 with 1-2 hour playing but after service 95 celcius in really short time and i cant play it anymore more then 15-20 minutes i fear to burn it ^^ i feel a bit unlucky to get these lots of problem in short time,
Anyway coming days i will call dell service and i want to repaste my notebook with better thermal paste for example Arctic Cooling MX-3 or do something to fix my problem but i am not sure they do it.

 

I'm considering purchasing the XPS 15 L502x, but the relatively consistent reports of ~90+ degrees under load are making me wary. I probably won't be putting it under load too much or for too long (2-3 hours in a single sitting) but I would like to be able to put it under that kind of load for the life of the laptop, which I'm hoping will be two to three years.

Does the fact that it's under the maximum safe temperature by such a small amount, and remains there under load, mean that it will reduce the effective life of the laptop?

Also, does anyone know if the dual core versions of the Sandy Bridge processors in the L502 run any cooler, or do they TurboBoost up to roughly the same temperature as the quad core versions?

 

The whole point of TurboBoost is to jump them to as high performance as safely possible when demand is there. It is rare that you will be doing anything that will require such a high load for an extended period of time. The dual core 2620 appears to max at about 86 for me, though I have changed the thermal compound.

You're pretty much going to see the same thing for all Sandy Bridge processors. And as long as it's under the thermal limit, you won't be reducing the lifespan of the CPU in a noticeable way. In fact, most notebooks, because they are thinner, are even worse at heat exchange than this one, so you'll likely have higher temperatures and lower performance on those than you would on this one.

 

I Changed my thermal paste to AS5 and this is what i get now, is this good? I feel like its not 0.o.

 

wow, the temps are pretty high all over the board. it's defenitely smth wrong in here... seems like your fans spins on max, does it sound loud? (may be there's a fan problem) i had an issue when i did a thermal job on my L502x - the heatsink didn't get attached to the chips in a proper way, which resulted in temps increase up to 90C+. The soulution i found is to lay thermal grease both on chip and on heatsinks for better contact, hope it helps)

 

Could people try the solution presented here:

http://forum.notebookreview.com/dell-xps-studio-xps/590543-xps-l502x-turbo-boost-2-0-a.html

and give more feedback on performance/heat?


I can't see how maintaining near-critical temperatures under load is not going to seriously affect the lifespan of the laptop.

 

Ok so you think i should apply the thermal paste to both heatsink and cpu then attach it?

 

Well okay i reaplied it like you said and my CPU temp def went down by 10 degrees, and the GPU went down by 2 or 3 but it still remains at 90s in the load for the GPU. So im assuming everything is fine then, and i got my CPU temp down so no hurt there

 

try to run 3dmark 06/11 and check temps afterwards! combining Furmark and Prime95 for a laptop with one fan is an overkill, you've never load your system like that ever! you can also try to lay some compound on a gpu chip and attach the heatsink with screws to the board, hold it for a while and detach. If you notice the same size of compound printed on heatsink - probably a bad GPU, but i doubt it. Show us you temps after 3dmark runs)

 

Okay here we go! This is from 06

 

mystycs, Red Line I have the same laptop configuration:
XPS 15 L502x i5-2410M | 8GB (2x4GB) RAM Hynix 1333 | 640GB HDD (Toshiba) | 2GB Nvidia GT540M

Guys, do you have a problem with nvlddmkm.sys "Display Driver Stopped Responding and Has Recovered"?
Everything with my Dell laptop is excelent exept this mistake which doesn't allow me to play any games!

Also I had a problem with high temperatures but after re-paste, my GPU temps became more low.
I you would like to know more info, please, welcome to this topic http://forum.notebookreview.com/del...-l502x-video-hardware-errors.html#post7665806

 

Did you try reinstalling nvidia drivers?

 

mystycs Of course I did it and many different things too. Also I tried to disable Turbo Bost - turn off Intel SpeedStep in BIOS and shange my power plan option (highest CPU usage from 100% to 99%) but didn't see any difference, however it was "Display Driver Stopped Responding and Has Recovered". Probably I have

If that is true all I can do is to sell my laptop to another "lucky" guy, but won't do it, because I like my Dell XPS very much and if I can't play games - it is better, I won't waste my time for it )

In your case: maybe you should do re-paste once again and more attentively? I remember marks on the heater where you have to put thermo paste. And there were a lot of components: CPU, GPU and one more chipset (probably Intel VGA or MB bridge) and around the NVidia chipset were memory slots which also have to be covered by thermo paste.
I didn't use high recomended Arctic Silver 5, but I think to try re-paste once again with it.

Best regards to you.

 

Hi, I have the same extreme heat problem like yours. I just have one question before prying my xps 15 open. Does opening your laptop to change the thermal paste void the warranty?? Thanks! your posts have helped me alot

 

using a 2620 (dual core), preliminary tests were spreading the paste across the cpu surface. Secondary paste job left a dab of paste in the middle, then pressure to make it spread.

At first, my temps were getting as high as 93c, but the avg turbo was hovering around 2.9 or so.

second application, temps got to 79c highest. But it seemed to hover around its base frequency of 2.7Ghz. I'm unsure why the change.

I used prime95 for 15 min for the tests.

Really confused, but i hope I help someone. The second paste job was according to the IC Diamond 24 recommendation here:

Application

 

So, what's the idea with this thread - does Dell do a shoddy job of using the thermal paste? Do they not add ANY thermal paste? Do the internals just get too hot for the wellbeing of the laptop because of poor ventilation. Do people just get off on taking apart their laptop, and putting what they think is a better paste on it?

Seriously, with this many posts on the subject, I'm confused.

 

The point of this thread is to get the lowest temperature on your XPS 15. Dell "technicians" didn't seem to apply the TIM the correct way or use cheap TIM, that's when we come here and discuss how to redo the application to lengthen laptop's lifespan.

 

basically its modders who like to tinker. If they can spec their laptop better, they want to. Dell's paste is on or off, mind wasn't too bad but you always hear horror stories.

 

With all the talk about temps and heating issues among some of these, I did wonder. I just saw on a thread below this one someone say, "As for me, my l502x arrived today so I'll be doing my own repaste job today or tomorrow." Clearly, there is no heating issue the guy has an problems with...just seems like the thing for a certain type of people to do I guess. To each his own. Thanks!

 

Almost every L502X owner I've seen has overheating issue with their cpu shooting up to 90C+ when gaming. So it's a no-brainer to repaste because it will only help lengthen your laptops life.

 

Seems like gamers would go for the Alienware since it's got the big vents and gets the hot air out. I always thought of the XPS 15 as more a 'multimedia' laptop - I think Laptop Magazine considers it their top 'multimedia' laptop, something where only occassional gaming happens. Seem like people take this and try to make a gaming rig out of it when it really wasn't designed for that purpose.

Anyway, I'll just sit back and watch everyones posts now that my curiosity has been satisfied.

 

That would be me I'm doing it because I already have thermal paste at hand (used for my Inspiron 6400 and Xbox 360) and because the vast majority of XPS 15/17 users have been reporting overheating issues during gaming/benchmarking.

I haven't dealt much with overheating in the past, but one of the reasons that compel people to repaste is because overheating can shorten the lifespan of the machine; if you have a decent warranty plan (3-4 yrs) it may not be worth the effort, though.

 

What are you guys averaging for CPU temps while doing some websurfing (like using this forum?) On a Sandybridge i7?

I'm 110-120F.


Also I figured out much of the fan issues can be blamed on bad monitoring software. I used two that made the CPUs run 20F hotter and gave it that "heartbeat" on-off-on fan rhythm.

 

@Coke I wish I had those temps... did you manage to find a good monitoring software? I'd like to know about it if possible

I did my repasting job today and am not too pleased with the results given the poor stock thermal paste (air holes all over, 10-15% of paste-less surface, etc.). Given that AS5 has a 200+ hour cure time I'll give it a week until I reconsider repasting.

Anyways, on with the temps.
Before
idle
CPU: 55/55/54/54
GPU: I forgot to get it
prime95
CPU: 80/85/84/87 (max 84/92/93/90)
3DMark11
GPU: 67

After
idle
CPU: 53/52/52/52
prime95
CPU: 79/83/85/84 (max 81/87/87/85)
3DMark11
GPU: 65

EDIT: I haven't seen that many idle temps on this forum, so could you guys help me out and check them? I have a feeling that mines are relatively high - I'm aiming for high 40s (to avoid the fan on/off annoyance) but I want to know if this is feasible.

 

Here's what I commonly have with a Core i3 2310m (fairly high IMHO as CPU is concerned)
checked with AIDA64 1.80 (ex Everest)
my L502x is 2 weeks old

Processeur 53 °C (127 °F)
CPU Package 58 °C (136 °F)
CPU IA Cores 58 °C (136 °F)
CPU GT Cores 58 °C (136 °F)
CPU 1 / cœur 1 58 °C (136 °F)
CPU 1 / cœur 2 57 °C (135 °F)
Chipset 45 °C (113 °F)
Aux 47 °C (117 °F)
DIMM 39 °C (102 °F)
Diode GPU 43 °C (109 °F)
ST9500420AS 37 °C (99 °F)

idle temps, clean OS reinstalled from DVD + drivers

 

Thanks for the temps buzzly! I didn't know there were that many sensors I guess I should try out AIDA 64.

 

Is this normal..???

Please check the image..!!!

 

Resize the damn image! Also Furmark is a total waste of time, absolutely no need to run it at all. If your system is stable as does not crash, then there is no need to worry. You will never reach those temps for extended periods of time like furmark artificially shows.

 

Sorry, re-sized.

I feel my notebook is hotter than any other Dell XPS my friends have (with the same config)

Can you temme how to test it..???

 

htcfreak, my laptop gets super hot as well. The CPU doesn't get too hot but the GPU always gets up to 96 Celsius and then throttles. Is this bad for my computer? It isn't unstable or anything but I'm afraid it will damage other components in the computer.

 

My temps are in the high 40's (Celsius) when web browsing or doing anything non-intensive

I played Supreme Commander and Deus Ex Human Revolution for a few hours and it didn't get higher than 70C. These are CPU temps, btw. The exhaust is quite hot, so it must be doing a good job of getting rid of the heat.

When running Core Temp I had no issues with an over-active fan. I did, however, notice that it got a bit unruly when I had a couple Win7 monitoring gadgets running.